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3281  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 24, 2014, 11:12:16 AM
Kiev murdered 5 more people near Slavjansk, after conducting a military operation:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/373616

In the meantime, people defending the blockposts said that they managed to re-take one block posts and make 3 APC turn back and leave.
3282  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike on: April 24, 2014, 08:34:43 AM
Reviving an old topic, seems Europe ponders banning import of Russian gas, and quickly switching to other energy sources. It seems that is what the report from Fitch Ratings indicates:
http://www.utro.ru/articles/2014/04/24/1191478.shtml

Alternatives are coal and oil (and coal from Ukraine might not be as easy to get as well Smiley), which will see an abrupt price hike. Russia stands for 27% of European gas consumption.

European gas storage reserves can currently cover 2 months of consumption, being filled at 46% capacity. Greece, Bulgaria, Slovakia and Hungary have almost no reserves left.

Common Europeans will get hit hardest in case of prolonged "sanctions against Russia".
3283  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 24, 2014, 08:11:36 AM
The leader of People's Republic of Donetsk said that they are not going to conduct presidential elections in their region on the 25th of May, saying "How can we participate in elections that takes places at our neighbours' and not in our country"
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1143085?utm_medium=rss20
3284  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 24, 2014, 08:01:18 AM
IMF approved a 17 billion dollar credit to Ukraine. The country has officially been enslaved.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/373506

About 100 armed people attacked a military base in Artemovsk, Donetsk region. they used automatic weapons, grenade launchers and splintering handgrenades. No casualties, one soldier wounded:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/24/n_6106005.shtml

And Obama yet again warned Moscow about preparation of yet another ephemeral packet of sanctions, as US-installed Kiev coup-government's gunmen do not vacate building's in Kiev, Obama accuses Moscow of not following the Geneva agreement:
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/04/24/obama/
3285  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 24, 2014, 07:16:45 AM
This could be financially bad news for the Kiev junta:

Ukraine coal miners on strike, refuse to pay Kiev coup damages bill

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Over 2,000 coal miners in Lugansk region have been on strike for the second day running, demanding higher wages and refusing to accept a pay cut to fund the restoration of Kiev, which suffered damage during the coup that overthrew the government.

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“The mining industry employs about 500,000 people throughout the region, provides about 15 percent of the country's GDP and coal alone is 30 percent of Ukraine's energy consumption,” Sleboda says.

The article:
http://rt.com/news/154432-coal-miners-strike-ukraine/

And a very relevant quote from one of the miners:

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“I don't understand why are we involved!” one of the protesting miners, Stanislav Denisenko told Itar-tass. “It was not us who dismantled the stones and burned the houses down. I get about 900 hryvna a month, that is around 9,000 rubles ($260). I don't understand why they are taking away my salary.”

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“We are also against Kiev's junta. We do not recognize their authority. It is not legitimate. We stand for the memory of our ancestors fighting alongside Russians. We're all Slavs. We are one nation. We do not have heroes such as Bandera and Shukhevych. We are against these people because they are destroying our history,” one of the protesters said during the second day of the strike.

Hmm... Should Bitcoin miners show solidarity. Wink
3286  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 23, 2014, 08:27:15 PM
An Mi-8 Hip of the Ukraine Army on fire in the sky near Kramatorsk, no victims according to military analyst D.Tymchuk.

https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymchuk/posts/487532738042053

Not "on fire", but "fired upon by persons unknown" from 5.45mm calibre.
3287  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 23, 2014, 05:34:34 PM
And a very thorough reader comment at the end, which I think should be re-printed here:

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Gosh, Bob, the NYT should be paying you for doing their job- and giving them a clinic in the process. (A good journalism school would be advised to pick up on your articles and use them in a case study, to teach what to do and what not to do.)

At least the Times responded, even if today someone else there (Tom Friedman) spewed more pro-Kiev smoke and b..s.. Why, I ask myself did he have to misrepresent the issues at hand and pretend that Russia had been forcing Ukraine to deal with it exclusively to condemn Ukraine to a permanent status of serfdom and corruption, or couldn’t bring himself to mention that it was the EU that was trying to force itself on Ukraine as its exclusive partner, and the EU that coerced an agreement with Ukraine’s constitutional leader which it abandoned within a day, or address the impact on Ukraine of the EU’s austerity package, or what the benefits to Ukraine of a non-exclusive multilateral relationship could be, or why Russia cannot allow Ukraine to become a member of NATO, or what the deep historical relationship is between the people of Ukraine, a paper state without any real independent history, and Russia of which much of Ukraine was a part, etc., etc.

Propaganda comes in all forms. TF’s is the fluffy phony baloney variety.
3288  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 23, 2014, 04:47:18 PM
Russia is not interested in split Ukraine. It does not need a fringe lawless state with conflicting ragtag bands, as it was in 1918. What Russia needs is an independent neutral (with possibly a slight bias towards Russia) stable Ukraine, which can act as a trading partner and a buffer zone with regard to cancerous NATO expansion.

Russia want the eastern provinces of Ukraine to join the Eurasian customs union (which includes Belarus and Kazakhstan in addition to Russia). I don't think that Kiev will agree to that demand.

Um, I haven't seen such demands from Russia. Where did you read it? I know that Russia would like to see Ukraine (as a whole) in the Customs Union, and that was one of the triggers for the whole circus, when Yanukovich did a 180* degree turn from EU to Customs Union, seeing more trading potential there.

On another note, a retelling a dialogue from the 12th of April meeting of the leader of Radical Party Ljashko with electorate in Lugansk:

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Question (in Russian): - How much more can we tolerate this chaos in the country?
Ljashko answers (in Ukrainian): - Unless you speak Ukrainian to me, I will not be understanding you!
A woman's voice from the audience (in Russian): - Can someone already punch him?!

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- Сколько можно терпеть этот бардак в стране?
Ляшко:
 - Якщо ви говорите росiйськой мовою, я вас не буду розумiти!
Женский голос из задних рядов:
 - Да дайте же ему в морду!

Herein lies the problem to the Ukrainian split. Distilled.
3289  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 23, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
And it looks like Kiev is back on its route to self-destruction:

Lavrov accuses Ukrainian authorities of not following Geneva accord:
http://ria.ru/world/20140423/1005096168.html

Kiev has not done any single thing of what was agreed in Geneva, says Lavrov.

Furthermore, Kiev resumes a full-scale offensive in the South-East (again):
http://1prime.ru/Politics/20140423/783377836.html

Entrance to Donetsk is manned by law enforcements (the article does not say, if they are pro-Kiev or pro-Ukrainian), checking incoming vehicles for weapons and other dangerous goods:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/23/n_6103921.shtml



And, apropos of nothing, Turchinov's real surname is Cohan (Коган), which has Jewish roots. The same goes for Yatsenjuk, who is Bakai on mother's line, and Poroshko, who is Veltsmann, and Timoshenko, who is Kapitelmann, and Nuland, who is Nudelmann, and Klichko, who is Etizon, and Tjagnibok, who has a Frotmann for grandmother and Cegelskij for grandfather. Digging deeper, it seems that all central Maidan figures have Jewish roots. Conspiracy?
http://www.novorossia.org/obshestvo/6150-evromaydanom-zapravlyayut-evrei.html

Тимошенко - настоящая фамилия Капительман.
Олигарх Порошенко - настоящая фамилия Вальцман.
Яценюк - настоящая фамилия Бакай.
Турчинов - настоящая фамилия Коган.
Кличко - настоящая фамилия Этинзон.
Тягнибок - настоящая фамилия Фротман

Source, plus some interesting conspiracy theory pertaining to Ukrainian history and the world in general (the article is bilingual):
http://irenecaesar.wordpress.com/2014/03/25/chabad-coup-detat-in-ukraine-khazars-play-double-game-ans-shoot-both-sides/
3290  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 23, 2014, 09:03:26 AM
An interesting interview with Lavrov. He usually uses rather soft wording, in line with Roosevelt's maximum of "speak softly and carry a big stick". This time, however, the wording is a bit more strict.

Lavrov: If Russian troops attacked, we'll respond in line with int'l law
http://rt.com/news/154212-lavrov-russia-will-defend-itself/

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“If we are attacked, we would certainly respond. If our interests, our legitimate interests, the interests of Russians have been attacked directly, like they were in South Ossetia for example, I do not see any other way but to respond in accordance with international law,” he said.

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“Russian citizens being attacked is an attack against the Russian Federation,” he told RT.

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“There is no reason not to believe that the Americans are running the show,” said Lavrov, referencing US Vice President Joe Biden’s visit to Kiev and its coincidence with the renewed counter-terror operation on activists in East Ukraine.

“It’s quite telling they chose the moment of the Vice President of the US’ visit to announce the resumption of this operation because the launching of this operation happened immediately after John Brennon’s [head of the CIA] visit to Kiev,” said Lavrov.

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“Ukraine is just one manifestation of the American unwillingness to yield in the geopolitical fight. Americans are not ready to admit that they cannot run the show in each and every part of the globe from Washington alone,” said Lavrov, adding Washington’s “ready-made solutions” cannot remedy a crisis that it does not understand.

This comes in the wake of Kerry telling Lavrov to publicly call the people in the South-East of Ukraine to lay down their arms, and threatening Russia with stronger sanctions in the process:
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/23/n_6103125.shtml
3291  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia plans Crimea casino boom on: April 23, 2014, 08:55:24 AM
Well, it will most probably be restricted to a few sea-side resort towns, like Yalta. Monte Carlo Mk.II, here we come.
I am of two minds on this. It all depends on how it is handled by the local authorities.
3292  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 23, 2014, 08:39:11 AM
It is a great pity, that people of this cities do not understand that Russia would never accept them as it happened with Crimea.
Many people will die under Ukrainian battletanks, fighting for their  blundering beliefs.
Russia could stop this all long ago, just by saying "we will not accept you, we will not protect you". But they're just watching this upcoming massacre.  Cry

I think that the plans for annexation of Donbas (if there were such plans whatsoever) are scrapped, it's the peaceful federalization which Moscow is trying to push through in near future. But I do agree that this message, perhaps, hasn't been made loud and clear enough to Russian ethnic minority in the east Ukraine, where many are still dreaming about joining Russia. This is indeed a potentially hazardous situation: Russia cannot afford the price of absorbing these regions but if Ukrainians do something stupid, like launching massive attack on rebels, most likely followed by dozens or hundreds of dead, Putin will have no choice but to react and use army to protect his people. It's the worst case scenario for everyone there and I truly hope that all sides are going to be smart enough to avoid it at all costs.

I agree with your assessment there, Paya, taking it even one step further. Lavrov was very outspoken right from the moment it became obvious that a state coup has taken place in Ukraine, that Ukraine should move en-route to federalisation if it is to remain a single state. Each such initiative was talked down by US/EU, or ignored outright. At times it bordered on absurdity.

Russia is not interested in split Ukraine. It does not need a fringe lawless state with conflicting ragtag bands, as it was in 1918. What Russia needs is an independent neutral (with possibly a slight bias towards Russia) stable Ukraine, which can act as a trading partner and a buffer zone with regard to cancerous NATO expansion.

And to that end, an interesting article on RT outlining Churkin's (Russia's envoy to UN) speech:
Churkin: US behind Ukraine crisis after investing $5bn in 'regime change'
http://rt.com/news/154112-churkin-ukraine-eu-us/
3293  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: April 23, 2014, 07:31:20 AM
And an expected outcome after his statements, where he is dissatisfied with peaceful solutions from Russia with regard to Crimean Tatars, and tries to instigate unrest:

Dzhemilev, who is a citizen of Ukraine, is prohibited entry into Russian Federation, Crimea included, for the duration of the next 5 years.
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/04/22/n_6101389.shtml

Turns out to be a bit of black PR spread by Dzhemilev himself:
http://rt.com/news/154152-travel-ban-paper-crimea/

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Russian authorities have denied reports that Ukrainian MP and former Crimean Tatar leader Mustafa Dzhemilev had been slapped with a 5-year entrance ban to Crimea. Dzhemilev claims he was given a travel restriction order on the Russia-Ukraine border.

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“We do not have such information. Therefore, why do you think that we have banned him from entering the Russian Federation? I can send you the same document, you can also send it to me. I've seen it, and there is really nothing to comment on here.”

...

 “It's just a piece of paper that someone wrote to someone without attaching an official seal or a signature,” said the spokesman, as cited by Ukrinform. “We do not comment on such papers.”

The Crimean parliament has also denied allegations of issuing such a ban on Dzhemilev, saying that his name is not included in the officially compiled travel restriction list which now has over 340 names.

It is also quite possible a US-lead media war, on part with "Soviet toy-bombs" from Afghan war, that US was screaming about.

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This is not the first time over the last few weeks the US has backed its rhetorical comments for the Western media with questionable documents presented as hard evidence.

Last week a letter urging the Jews of Donetsk to get registered or have their citizenships revoked, was presented as factual evidence of chaos and widespread human rights abuses by the US Secretary of State in Geneva. The letter turned out to be a fake according to a man whose name was typed on the communication.
3294  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 22, 2014, 02:49:53 PM
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Обама — Мы пообещали Украине многомиллиардную помощь, и если будет необходимо, то мы можем пообещать ее еще раз.
Obama: We promised Ukraine a multibillion help, and if it becomes nescessary, we can promise it once more.
 Grin
3295  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 22, 2014, 01:39:49 PM


This one is fun:
"This is Ukraine, my child.
Marines, fed in captivity, returned to the dislocation points, but continue returning to captivity thrice a day."

Also, for those, who missed it, there are a few nice pics on the previous page. Smiley
3296  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 22, 2014, 01:35:08 PM
Switzerland Ups Arms Budget Due to Ukraine Unrest

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Following the crisis in Ukraine, Sweden’s government has proposed increasing the Nordic country’s military spending by 5.5 billion Swedish kronor ($830 million) a year. The four-party center-right coalition said Tuesday it is deeply concerned by the recent events in Ukraine and wants to raise the military outlays gradually in coming years to reach the proposed figure by 2024.

Why the Swiss have to poke their nose in to Ukraine right now?

Everything's just an excuse to increase military spendings. If not Ukraine, they would cite Solar flares.
3297  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 22, 2014, 01:14:52 PM
247crypto, the last two videos are not available (private, removed)
3298  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 22, 2014, 01:13:32 PM
Just found another Nulandism that goes beyond understanding, from the same CNN interview:

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“You can’t compare the situation in Kiev, where now everything that is still being held by protesters is being held with licenses and with the agreement of the government of Ukraine, with the agreement of the Rada, or with regular leases from the owners of the buildings,” Nuland told CNN in an interview.

So:

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People holding illegal arms and occupying government buildings are perfectly OK, as long as they are permitted to do so, believes Washington’s top diplomat in Europe. But doing exactly the same thing without permission is bad.

http://rt.com/op-edge/153984-nuland-ukraine-firefighter-arsonists/
3299  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 22, 2014, 12:14:12 PM
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speaking of the "Tatars of the Crimea" rather than the "Crimean Tatars", thus rhetorically stripping them of the status of the native people of the Crimea.
I have two other "lols".

First, both "Tatars of the Crimea" and "Crimean Tatars" are synonyms: "Крымские татары".
Second. Native people? If we are to talk about the native population of Crimea, we should talk about Scythians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians), as well as Tauris, Sarmatians, Alans, Bulgars, Greeks, Goths, Khazars, Pechenegs, Cumans, Italians, Circassians, Littleasian Turks.
Tatars in Crimea hail back to XI-XII century
3300  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: April 22, 2014, 11:58:03 AM
BARF    -being careful not to ship too many devices as to dilute the return to investors/customers.  Who the fck are they shipping units to if it is not their customers??? 

obviously a delay tactic as they are making tons of equipment and mining in the meantime as stealthily as possible.

You can't mine stealthily with a ton of equipment. In Bitcoinland that's a contradiction in terms.
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