Bitcoin Forum
June 23, 2024, 01:40:07 AM *
News: Voting for pizza day contest
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 ... 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 [166] 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 »
3301  Economy / Lending / Re: Seeking investors, 4.6/10 funded BTCJAM loan on: October 09, 2012, 01:19:51 PM
I am more than willing to answer further questions VIA PM if needed just hit me up. Thanks

Looks legit LMAO it would have been better if you were answering questions in the thread hence why it is here, otherwise why even post a thread.
3302  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who would you like on a Bitcoin Council that represented the BTC community? on: October 09, 2012, 05:44:20 AM
We don't need any more councils or what ever, the bitcoin foundation is fine as it is - just join and move for a vote on changes if you want any

And you don't question how two companies hold seats, unopposed by any other companies or competing companies? Or how there are no checks and balances?
3303  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain.info wallet on iOS - install it now! on: October 09, 2012, 01:20:06 AM
I just downloaded it on my iphone 5 and it works great - not full screen but scans codes- send and receives just fine

You should check out http://instawallet.org, cause they allow you to add a bitcoin address to your passbook app, and it updates the balance automatically and it really cool.
3304  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: My.gox ticker help on: October 08, 2012, 10:25:56 PM
I'm clueless altogether with this... Kind of figuring it out as I go

I would recommend hiring someone, cause it is very difficult for a new person to figure it out by themselves
3305  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: My.gox ticker help on: October 08, 2012, 09:53:22 PM
First off to get real time data, in java from mt gox is you need a library that will read a web socket stream, and that is where your issue is. So get a library that you can pass in the ws:// url for mt gox and you will have a real time ticker. But to me it sounds like you have no clue as to write java code cause you would clearly see that you need to keep polling the URL to get the ticker state at that time.
3306  Economy / Services / Re: Sponsored tweets via @wiki @holy @http @agency @locally @recordings @ffffound on: October 08, 2012, 06:27:31 AM
You do know the ROI of tweets is based on how much a user engages there followers, when there are no tweets or it looks super spammy with just link will actually cause people to ignore it even more. So paying for this would be worthless.
3307  Economy / Services / Re: pyramining links, let's share them here on: October 08, 2012, 02:43:07 AM
http://www.pyramining.com/referral/329b84tfg           2012-06-16 05:32:05 UTC   still active
http://www.pyramining.com/referral/cma9hkbex   2012-06-16 20:33:38 UTC   still active
http://www.pyramining.com/referral/azr8tqbyf           2012-10-03 20:51:54 UTC   still active
http://www.pyramining.com/referral/7gpxmszda   2012-10-06 01:36:13 UTC   still active
http://www.pyramining.com/referral/r7p8xynkm   2012-10-06 01:36:13 UTC   still active
3308  Other / Off-topic / Re: Should bitcointalk exist? on: October 08, 2012, 01:31:24 AM
Wow, calling THE single most helpful user on the whole board a troll? Now I've seen everything.

You know he is a little too helpful could be trolling us with his helpfulness js LMAO
3309  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BTCJam - Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending on: October 07, 2012, 08:00:21 PM
Does your system automatically report overdue accounts to you? Or where are we supposed to go report them?

This user has two loans which are now overdue on payments.
https://btcjam.com/users/25

I want to see how this handled he has over due pays and they have his docs, how this is handle will determine if many people use the site or no one uses it, let see if the right choices are made.
3310  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: MPEx registration fee bumped to 30 BTC. on: October 07, 2012, 06:48:22 PM
-Its own domain name that it doesn't share with a romanian porn site (I mean really, nice image).
Peeps, just please stop repeating this cliche.

Conglomerate domains have their tactical uses, in this case as probably as a anti-filtering and anti-takedown measure. I don't have a specific knowledge about polimedia.us and Romania; but a conglomerate domain that would host a bitcoin securities exchange and a financial news site would have a very good prior restraint defense against stupid takedowns.

In Europe this tactic worked for the users of LiveJournal and many other traditional publishers.

This "dedicated domain name" really is a cheapo marketing shibboleth. If you don't believe me, read the post of the local hit&run marketing expert: reeses. Of course I have to quote it in full, since reeses always doing the purge of his posts before he runs.

The owner of mpex hosts it on his servers. Just search the forums lots of people reference it.

It is kind of silly not to have a dedicated domain for mpex.  However, while there is pr0ns available via the same hostname, there is no child pornography there.  That's just an added level of "eww" made up by ciuciu when "he also hosts porn" didn't have any effect.  It also hosts a boring blog in moon-man gibberish.

None of the people claiming there is child pornography on the site has been able to provide evidence beyond,"Look for yourself," which you can understand my unwillingness to do.  It's a romanian 4chan, so weird shit pops up from the members.

Hmm...first bitcoin bank of 4chan...

I don't think the fact that MPEx lacks a dedicated domain name will stop a securities investigation  Cheesy

In addition to which, is it really wise to have it on a ".us" domain?

plus that domain is registered in the USA LMAO and all the information is in the who is just look
3311  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "securities" subforum. on: October 07, 2012, 05:23:23 PM
Quote
I'm not an expert, but I would think a "security" is selling what is ultimately a promise of some sort, whereas goats, feathers, chickens, and Bitcoins are all commodities at best - they are what they are.

I would think the problem isn't so much selling securities, it's in the issuing them.  If I print securities (promises) out of my butt and offer them to the public at large, knowing full well there's a dozen ways I can cut and run with the money without any accountability, there's something wrong with that.

I never bought or touched any Bitcoin "securities" because I believe that securities require a framework of law and accountability in order to have any value.  You can't have a public company insulated from the law, because it would also have to be just as insulated from its shareholders.  If shareholders have no means to protect their interests and must simply rely on the goodness of others' anonymous hearts to maintain their value, well they're asking to get screwed.

The premise of a new decentralized stock exchange that operates like Silk Road or like the Bitcoin network itself is fundamentally flawed as well, and would only be an asset to scammers in my opinion.  Sure, it's technologically possible to start one up,  but without any accountability I doubt it'll be possible for an anonymous entity to issue securities that will have any lasting value above zero.

I agree with you, the tender is not the issue here. I think gweedo fails to see this.

Then explain second life stock market? If bitcoin stocks markets get shutdown by the government agencies, then second life stock market would have to get shutdown, and every other virtual currency stock market would be shutdown. Plus your thinking of this as more the Public stock exchange, which this more of the second market exchange which we know is all SEC registered but since no bitcoin company is public, it would be the best stock market to "copy". Plus that statement isn't agreeing with you, he is stating how he thinks that securities can't exist with out some type of laws. I would have to disagree, the beautiful thing about bitcoins, you don't like the stock market or what the social laws are, you don't use it, plain and simple.
3312  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: should we make a bitcointalk TOR hidden service? on: October 07, 2012, 05:07:02 PM
Tor hidden service would be great, but don't forget that central server is still an issue.
I mentioned this before in other thread - Look at Osiris serverless portal. Decentralized P2P solution.

The forum doesn't need to be hidden that would kill off a lot of the community and make people not want to use bitcointalk and probably go to another forum.
3313  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "securities" subforum. on: October 07, 2012, 05:00:13 PM
its not?

http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/unregistered-securities.asp#ixzz28PML2jew

A security is not defined by how its bought or what its bought with. You could trade someone 1000 pounds of feathers for 4 shares in a company if the seller will take it. Guess what still makes it a security, the whole thing behind it being bitcoin is going to get lots of people screwed in the long run. A security is not defined by how it's purchased I hope people understand that. If someone was to sell a share of Google for 5 goats it does not matter he is still a shareholder. Buy 1 share of illegalstocks inc with 5 goats its still a illegal security. So tell me how its is in the gray area or legal. A security is a security no matter if you trade people goats, $ or Bitcoins. Its just the tender you used to buy it.

First off investopedia assumes you talking about USD and the public stock exchange which we are not. So right there your whole argue would not hold up. Plus bitcoin is not recognized as a global currency so it is unregulated, meaning that I can basically do what I want. Since pure bitcoin companies operate with no regulations they can sell stocks without being threaten by any agency or government pressure. Go back to economics school and ask your S.E.C friends they will tell you they can't touch bitcoins.
3314  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "securities" subforum. on: October 07, 2012, 03:45:36 PM
It is not illegal to discuss illegal matters.

Wrong it is called Conspiracy.

In criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime at some time in the future. Criminal law in some countries or for some conspiracies may require that at least one overt act must also have been undertaken in furtherance of that agreement, to constitute an offense. There is no limit on the number participating in the conspiracy and, in most countries, no requirement that any steps have been taken to put the plan into effect (compare attempts which require proximity to the full offence). For the purposes of concurrence, the actus reus is a continuing one and parties may join the plot later and incur joint liability and conspiracy can be charged where the co-conspirators have been acquitted or cannot be traced. Finally, repentance by one or more parties does not affect liability but may reduce their sentence.

Two people talking about opening a illegal security is Conspiracy...... at least in U.S. law. This is always a charge used in almost any crime, it a way the gov "Put's it to you"

But who said that bitcoin only securities are illegal? Cause they are not.
3315  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: should we make a bitcointalk TOR hidden service? on: October 07, 2012, 03:26:35 PM
I think it's a good idea. This forum is a target too easy for whomever may decide to do a crackdown on coiners (which I expect soon or later).
Regarding noobs, if they learned to open a browser, they can even learn to launch Tor Browser. It is time they do.
A major drawback is that the .onion network is slow as hell, and there is little hope that it can improve much.

If more people ran exit nodes or even internal relays Tor would be a hell of a lot faster, but it's the same as Bit torrent, people just take and leech off the community and never give anything back.

You do know running an exit node is legally draining and can put you in jail, I don't blame people who don't want that responsibility.
3316  Other / Meta / Re: Remove "securities" subforum. on: October 07, 2012, 07:43:36 AM
I will not ban a subject of discussion on the forum unless it's very clear that the forum cannot survive while allowing that discussion. I think discussion of securities is pretty safe. If not, it probably wouldn't be too hard to move the forum somewhere where it is safe.
Discussing them is fine. Advertising them is not.

Do people know what the difference is ?

How is the forum going get in trouble for security talk? It isn't like the forum is issuing assets for the securities. Plus securities in bitcoins isn't illegal FYI
3317  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: they may have won this battle, but the government is losing the war on: October 07, 2012, 02:49:56 AM
the government didn't shutdown GLBSE
3318  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Nefario on: October 07, 2012, 02:35:08 AM
I don't want to publish the shareholder list. Many people who opposed Nefario would like to remain anonymous, and even the people who supported him are decent enough people who I don't want to "out". Some of the shareholders did comment in this thread without saying that they're shareholders.

I really hope the people posting in here can disclose that they are share holders, it is only right.
3319  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: should we make a bitcointalk TOR hidden service? on: October 07, 2012, 02:25:55 AM
What do you have to hide?

spoken like a true statist... what was nefario doing wrong?? yet the evil fed bastards went after him anyway

in a world of corrupt goons, we are all criminals just by breathing the air...

You do know nefario shut it down, no outside agency threaten, or tried to shut him down. So get your facts right.
3320  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: With GLBSE gone, we can start fresh on new lands. on: October 06, 2012, 11:49:09 PM
Bartering is regulated to some degree by the united states, i am claiming a currency that isn't recognized globally can't be regulated.

Good luck with that, and I hope nobody listens to your advice, because you are wrong. See: gold and every other private currency.
Gold is a commodity and what other private currencies there are none.
Pages: « 1 ... 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 [166] 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 »
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!