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Everything BFL says is deceitful. They want you to think they said the backlog would be cleared/shipped. All they said was it would be "processed". Processed doesn't mean shipped.
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What is incorrect about pointing to the irony that customer anger causes future sales to crash, which in turn cause further delays due to BFL's lack of cashflow needed to ramp-up?
You just admitted that BFL is running a Ponzi scheme. Welcome to the BIAS (Bfl Is A Scam) club. |
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but they're also not asking for money publicly either.
They will. |
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Our intention has always been to do our best and ship as fast as we can. It just sucks when we actually ship this slowly and though many of you don't believe it, we are more frustrated than you are. Can somebody explain to me like I'm five how BFL could be more frustrated than the monumental assholes who afforded them a comfortable livelihood, while they wait for their pre-ordered products, sans fewer parts than paid for plus extra s/h cost, to trickle through the hands of 35 competent(?) employees, half of which playing Minecraft on the clock, hence being behind on their customer service duties? Apologies for the question the above not being put in simple form, but... Jody had to press keys on her keyboard more than 1100 times for that blog posting. The amount of frustration that comes from pressing so many keys in a single day is staggering! In comparison, your forum post wasn't even 500 keystrokes. Just imagine more than double the frustration. Now add to that all the pain caused by the carpal tunnel syndrome, especially when many of those keystrokes were capital letters requiring 2 keys to be pressed at the same time! Jody is being worked to the bone having to post a blog update every single day! |
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Mid last year the superior option for buying BFL devices was to use US dollars, not bitcoins. As the price of bitcoins appreciated the number of bitcoins that must be generated by the ASIC device to achieve ROI decreased. I took the US dollar option and have BFL units mining away. ROI within four weeks because I chose not to pay with bitcoins.
Had you spent your dollars to buy btc directly you'd have made far more profit. You could have bought 23 btc which is now worth over $2400. |
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7 @ 2.75
Oh, look, Josh (who is "not a BFL rep") is bidding on advertising again. I wonder who for? I bet it's for a bASIC ad this time. Who do you think he's advertising for? |
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i will continue to monitor the PPLNS over a 24hr period and hope i can get conclusive results in 12hrs time.
PPLNS is susceptible to variance. 24 hrs won't give you a good picture. You could end up with either a run of good luck or a run of bad luck. |
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Since when do Intel or nVidia tell their cutomers tape out dates?
Where is the precedent?
Show me where I can pre-order the new nVidia 980 GPU or the new Intel Broadwell CPU. As soon as I have those pre-orders fully paid for I'll let you know what tape-out dates they provide. |
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I'm not sure where you are getting your data, but BFL is the only company shipping ASIC's in any meaningful quantity and hashrate at the moment
Keep your fingers in your ears and chant, "Avalon is not shipping. Avalon is not shipping." That should make it true. |
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Landed in San Jose last night. Everything looks good for the meeting on Monday.
If anyone knows anything fun to do around here let me know, I'm here for the week!
If you've got a car, Computer History Museum is awesome. http://www.computerhistory.org/ |
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How on earth can you not realise you are running low on casing?!!
Do they not perform something as rudimentary as regular inventory stocktaking? Especially after the PSU issue.
Their Chief Operating Officer is too busy trolling these forums to do his actual job. They're also waiting for new orders to come in so that they'll have funds to purchase parts for the orders placed a year ago. All the refunds from being so late are a huge drain on their cash flow. |
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I dunno, in terms of the worst customer service ever this guy would be hard to beat. So far no one at BFL has threatened people with rape or dismemberment. They may be running a close #2, though. Inaba's "coat hanger" comment is right up there. |
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We are no longer taking pre-orders. Since we have fully-tested products, we are taking ORDERS.
BWAHAHA. Orders for things not in stock, not built, and delivered at an unspecified date. That's what a pre-order is. Duh! |
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Actually that was the defaults for an Avalon, so blame the page. In any case, if you want a return in terms of BTC you should be running it against what 100 BTC can buy today, meaning the cost of a 4-unit should be priced in dollar terms as just over $9k. Some calcs make this easier by allowing you to price cost in BTC too, but Coinish is down right now. There's your figures for an Avalon 4-unit, even worse: https://i.imgur.com/AyeMFLw.pngYour numbers are still a little mixed up. 3 module avalon hashes between 72 and 84 mh/s and originally cost roughly 75 btc. 4 module avalon hashes between 96 and 112 mh/s and originally cost roughly 100 btc. |
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20 grand for an Avalon in 3 months from now? If anyone is seriously considering buying from these people, PM me and we can work out a much better deal for the both of us.
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Good luck beating the other bitstreams. A lot of work has already gone into optimizing mining. And since FPGAs generate so little bitcoins now, and every day you delay finishing your bitstream that number dwindles even further, there's just not going to be any interest in paying more than a few pennies for a new bitstream.
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Of course they're mining live with them. They've even posted a screenshot of one of their devices mining on a public pool.
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I cant believe it. They shipped the chips first. We will never reach ROI now.
For batch-3 devices that are delivered soon, you're looking at a 3-4 month ROI. Not bad, but not great. Any significant delay will kill that ROI as lots of hashing power is coming online late this year. |
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Monday, July 22, 2013 Shipping Update
by
BFL_Jody
07-23-2013 at 12:43 PM
Jalapenos shipping through the Nov 2, 2012 Paydate
Little Singles still shipping June 25, 2012
Singles finishing June 23, 2012
MiniRigs June 23 Jalapenos still wining. What a joke. Wednesday, July 10, 2013 Shipping Update Singles from pay date June 23, 2012 shipped. We are nearing the end of June 23 orders for Singles. We may finish them in a day or two.
1 or 2 days turns in to 13+ days. |
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