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3321  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: November 04, 2022, 12:32:53 PM
Gold is certainly an investment that will continue to grow and value, this is because Gold is always the first choice in investment, gold is never forgotten and is always discussed by people, more than 7 billion people in the world can receive gold and I'm sure the price of gold will continue to grow.

Gold might have real world use cases as an useful material, but argument of gold being first choice because of that and scarcity doesn't hold water after we start mining from asteroids. And this is not science fiction anymore: Nasa's Psyche mission

When you flood the markets with gold, it would drop the value so much it would absolutely crush the gold investors.

I am not saying that we could depend just on scarcity either to back up value but it helps, there are many factors that need to be available like stability of working infrastructure to keep values stable.
3322  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russia is the most aggressive country on: November 04, 2022, 12:03:01 PM

If you aren't paid Russian troll, you should ask for money from Kremlin. Because otherwise you are just working them for free. Maybe you'll get a medal from Putin.

Most of Russian trolls here in Finland are easy to spot as you, i am not sure why as they could do way better job hiding their agenda. But i am not complaining as when they are acting like mental patients they are not doing any harm.

But anyway... As a Finn, our education system has done a good job teaching media criticism in public shool and making us resistant for Russian propaganda in general. Most of us can see it from miles away as we have long history with it. We have been in information war against them since CCCP and while Russia has been using every leverage they can, their resources seem now to have depleted for the war in ukraine. There are occasional reddit and some attacks but that's mainly it.

In fact the whole illegal attack to Ukraine seem to have unified the whole Finland, lot's of peaceful hippies are regretting that they did choose civilian service instead of military service in during mandatory national conscription. People seem to have more focused of getting rid of polarisation and fake news. And while most of Finland didn't want to join into NATO just while ago, the whole attitude changed immediately after invasion.

I changed my mind that day. There wasn't really even an option for me. Putin was unhinged and just too dangerous. Not to mention the weird conservative values he holds dear.

Living next to Russia makes us scared, and things have never been this intense since our winter war (*edit* Continuation War). What scares me most is that i can't see any other way out of from this then change in leadership in Russia. In that way they either get even crazier leader or point the blame to crazy putin. There are not going to be peace with Putin, that's for sure.
3323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The Historical NFT Speculation & Appreciation Thread on: November 04, 2022, 11:22:23 AM
Not really relevant to the scope of this thread... involves turning new NFTs into newer NFTs for the sake of metaverse-related platforms on Ethereum. TBH I don't really care about what goes on with Ethereum. Its far too expensive for NFT gaming, for the most part.
I'll give you that Eth is too expensive to use (for the moment at least). But i see the overall development interesting and could be rather easily adapted by others too. Importance of speaking about eth is relevant imho as the whole current concept has been mainly developed from erc-721 and just implemented to other chains. This is why i am interested in innovations in tech happening in this sector. Even if that would be happening mainly in Eth layer 2 only.

I saw the rise of games like Axie Infinity and Zed Run whose gamepiece NFTs are still way overpriced. I think Decentraland is probably the best metaverse out there, but land parcels remain ridiculously overpriced and most of what people have built is advertisements for NFTs. Not to say it won't be more widely trafficked in the future but for now its kind of a ghost town.

Agreed. In fact all current non-fungible implementations that i have seen are mainly smoke and mirrors. And some of the future innovations dealing with real world assets requires tech that doesn't exist yet, mainly because lack of auditable confidential smart contracts that has privacy baked in L1.

This is why i am personally am skeptic that this revolution would continue to happen in eth2.0 but as it has most developers it has a change.

But now i'll tune off my rant as this might get too much off the topic.
3324  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: November 04, 2022, 10:42:32 AM
Even if you invest and hold bitcoin alone, expect that there are times that it’s price will eventually drop again due to its high volatility. So there’s no perfect investments or tactics to follow, everything comes with risk. But as long as you never invested and hold for long those shitcoins and meme coins, I guess your investments will be safe and will eventually made you profits in the end.

Then you would need to define shitcoin/meme coin. Because i am pretty sure top marketcap isn't defining them. In fact there could be ton of better blockchain solutions that i am not aware of that aren't getting any developers as those developers often go with the market and choose the money flow instead.

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But i don't think that limit is $25k or even near it. Unless you live in a really cheap country, 25k won't take you anywhere with low risk investments. And while nothing is risk free, your only change to get rich is to embrace the risk and be bold.

That's why it's important to hold onto coins that have a limit in the market, or are at least historically strong. For example Bitcoin, why are people not afraid to enter the bitcoin market, because historically bitcoin has been able to bring ATH or its journey a big impact on the investments people make as a whole, although we cannot avoid corrections, speculatives and fluctuations that occur.
The comfort zone is not intended for people who like investing, considering that all forms of investment have different levels of risk, including crypto and bitcoin in particular.

I wasn't talking about limit in tokenomics, but i could make a ton of arguments on the subject of bitcoin being historically strong and this could need a whole another topic and i am not the one having enough inside to write about it.

I could talk about psychological side of markets, PoW biased propaganda for and against of PoW, AML laws etc, but i might do topic for that later. I would need to consult actual experts when even scratching the tech side of it.

Let's just say that BTC is not out of the woods yet and there are ton of pitfalls that could stop the road to the moon. The argument of pure decentralization as defence is fascinating, but somehow overly mystified imho.
3325  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: November 03, 2022, 03:32:46 PM
Has anyone calculated the probabilities of winning big in wheel of fortune?
The chance of winning the biggest prize (The $15,000 Rolex) is 1 in 2 billions.
The chance of winning the $1500 iphone is 11 in 1 billion.
The chance of winning the $500 Amazon gift card is 3 in 100 million.

You can calculate the winning chance of each of other prizes using the following table easily.

Thanks, and i just stopped rolling it for good. I knew those were going to be low numbers but those numbers are just insane. There's a 1 in 175 million change to win a powerball jackpot as for comparison.

I wouldn't win FOW that if i rolled it every hour for 100 lifetimes. I am somehow betting that i could imagine any ultimately rare freak accident i would have WAY better odds getting into that then winning odds of 1 : 1 Billion.

The fact that i could roll it 24 times per day doesn't really help when you look at the big picture.
3326  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Pump and dump for people with small amount of money (Theory) on: November 03, 2022, 02:09:49 PM
Hi was doing some quick research and came across  -  https://cex.io/fun-usd.

Its 24hr vol is only $655 if I buy $500 worth would that be a successful pump? is that the correct way to do a pump or dump?

Regards
Andrew

This wouldn't do it because trading of FUN is not isolated only to CEX.io. It's a well known token by freebitco.in and while it's trading in Binance as well, it has $2.6M volume in 24H.

And even if you try pump in dump some coin, many exchanges like Bittrex i know for a fact that, got safety measures in place for this many years ago

I am not getting into details how to pull it off successfully as it's not something i want to encourage, and it's illegal in regulated markets.
3327  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: November 03, 2022, 12:09:39 PM
If you have a nice and solid nest egg, it might make more sense to invest in a few projects or coins that are at the top of the market. For example, you have 25 thousand dollars and you can allocate it to coins like ethereum, bnb, matic. This way you can minimize the risk. But since the market is always open to everything, we cannot say that it is completely risk-free.

There's a point where you want to minimize your risk and just avoid losing any money instead of making it.
But i don't think that limit is $25k or even near it. Unless you live in a really cheap country, 25k won't take you anywhere with low risk investments. And while nothing is risk free, your only change to get rich is to embrace the risk and be bold.
3328  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: November 01, 2022, 07:14:37 PM
Has anyone calculated the probabilities of winning big in wheel of fortune? I am assuming that you could from "provably fair" -info but i suck at maths. Are there even enough stats to calculate different outcomes?

Someone calculated probability for odds in here, but that's only for winning in free rolls
3329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The Historical NFT Speculation & Appreciation Thread on: November 01, 2022, 06:54:10 PM
Bored Ape Yacht Club gets flipped by CryptoPunks:

An exciting development in the world of Historical NFTs.

Even though I own neither, its worthy of a mention.

https://decrypt.co/107911/cryptopunk-ethereum-nfts-floor-price-flips-bored-apes-for-first-time-in-5-months



On Aug. 19, the average price and floor price of CryptoPunks, recognized as the first truly popular 10k PFP NFT collection (2017), briefly overtook the same metrics from Bored Ape Yacht Club (2021), representing a shift in market appreciation from projects with social media-driven clout to those with historical provenance.
Since we are talking current historically significant turning points of NFTs, have you by any change taken a look new Ethereum Implemention Proposal eip-5606?
That could be another turning point point for NFTs and seems very interesting.

Here are some links for it:
https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-5606
https://ethereum-magicians.org/t/eip-5606-multiverse-nfts-for-digital-asset-interoperability/10698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PajykC_RV9Q
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3331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling techniques on: October 30, 2022, 09:19:35 AM
I would like to have you guys speaking about different gambling techniques so that we can exchange knowledge and improve our winning chances.

I'll leave my simple technique here and I'll hope you guys can leave some more!

I often use the stake doubling technique to several games. I normally do this with dice games and if it played correctly its profitable. What you have to do is simply start with a small stake and every time you lose you double your steak until you win. Once you win, you will recover all the amount you lost. This works if you have enough money to keep doubling your bet, so you should do your math and check with how much you should start. It is not infallible but it works.


There's no technique that would actually work casinos. Your technique will fail at the end. Only way to make it work would be that you needed to have infinite money. And since that's impossible, the whole idea is impossible. It's mathematically proven not to work. Net casinos are about luck and that's what makes them fun.

However human mind aren't build in a way it would naturally accept probablility and statistics, but it seeks patterns where there are none and it all comes back to gambler's fallacy

Your best bet is to accept probability theory and  if you want to gamble, use it on betting real life events. That's used team and business management, counting cards etc. Where ever people can use it as an egde.
3332  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: October 30, 2022, 09:03:36 AM
Is faucet botting in freebitco.in against their rules?

I've seen people buying freebitcoin accounts without captcha and there are bots in github so i am guessing it could be profitable to run them (as you get lottery tickets and other bonuses as well it might be fun too).

There's no mention about it in FAQ but that could be because they don't want to encourage people using bots.
But then again they have an option to remove captcha as a bonus to unlock which makes me think they allow it.

Now i don't want to try anything just to compromise my account bonuses and i am guessing someone in here would know about it.
3333  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|🎁 BIRTHDAY for $1 000 000| Trip to Las Vegas & BMW M8 😎 on: October 29, 2022, 05:19:43 PM
I logged in after a while and gui has improved a lot. I am using it with my phone and everything works smoothly so i am thinking of coming back.

However i am little confused on the current bonus system, how does it work? If i choose Silver bonus Bonus №2 it says i have to deposit min $200
and wager it 30x to get 100% back? Do i just get them in usdt to my account after i have played or is there a catch? And do i need to wager it on some specific way?
Like only native betfury games or something?
3334  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: October 29, 2022, 09:35:42 AM
Indeed. Aside from bitcoin, ethereum or possibly more BNB, all other altcoins are not investment advice at this time. If you follow the altcoin market regularly, you will see that there are many big projects under construction such as aptos, sui, quainetwork… these are projects funded by big funds Binance, FTX, Alameda Research ...backing. They will most likely be the next generation replacing existing altcoins in the same way that sol, near, avax have replaced older altcoins. -cut-
Huge backers and investment firms will give you an edge because those people research a lot and have connections that can cause growth in price, but they make huge mistakes too as only real pros can often see the fundamental system architecture flaws in the crypto project.

While for example Winklevoss brothers and Pantera Capital invested in Luna, they made (at least Pantera) huge profits with it before it crashed. But nothing says that they were aware problems in ust design before they invest or when they sold. My guess is that Pantera was just lucky in timing it.

Btw thanks for the list of alts, i'll check them out.

_cut_
Terra Luna crash because it's a failed market.
_cut_
Terra Luna / UST crashed because there were clear design flaws in it. Not because of market:
https://thecryptobasic.com/2022/07/27/ethereum-founding-member-says-terra-luna-and-ust-were-plagued-with-clear-defects/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayBvY8LnWuY

 
3335  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: October 28, 2022, 11:41:08 PM
We also have to consider that in those said years, there are different trends that happened at some coins. Therefore, the Top 10 in the snapshot date chosen by OP which is October 24 has different data from other months within or the same year.

Take note also that when there's a big hype on a certain coin, it's really achievable to build up a big volume making their market capitalization grow but in most cases, that hype doesn't last for long resulting in not sustaining their position in the Top 10 coins in terms of market cap.

Anyway, I am honestly impressed with the effort done on that comparison.
Thanks, and that's a good point. I considered putting aths in there too, like for example what would have happened to your nxt holdings in 28.12.2017 because of ignis airdrop for NXT holders


...but topic would have got way more complicated then just pure hodling.

-cut-. Just think of Luna Terra, it was not into the top 10, but it was among the leading cryptocurrency list. -cut-
Luna terra fits there because i removed stablecoins.
3336  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: October 28, 2022, 09:12:54 AM
-cut-
@OP, I think to avoid confusion for newbies in case they don't research but only look at ROI, OP you should add the market capitalization column.
-cut-

You might be right. I'll do that later. In fact i could just remove the amount column and put it there. (from past to time of writing)...

The problem lies in discovering new projects that have demand, which is very difficult because the current currencies with a high market capacity will not continue to achieve such heights and you will find that they have been replaced by new currencies and so on.

 - This strategy is not suitable for beginners, but for experts who have technical and analytical knowledge.
 - It will not be suitable for all years, but only when the market is in a bubble.

Even when you back the best horse, it could fail and "VHS wins again". Most of the time it's pure luck and right contacts.

Also, your choice of date (24.10.20XX) does not give facts.

It was random date from the day i started looking into this, it could have been any date. I am not sure what facts you are referring to.

3337  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: October 28, 2022, 08:35:27 AM
Please don't make make a thread to lure a newbie to invest in shitcoins, if they're only look on the percentage without doing a research they will say ETH and BNB are better than Bitcoin because ETH and BNB price is surge higher than Bitcoin, also ETH and BNB didn't loss too much like Bitcoin.
The main factor is the date that the @OP use, he's choosing a particular date that make BTC performance isn't in good condition.

What can I say if the project who make the biggest ROI and it's survive for around 14 years is only Bitcoin.

It's a well known fact that if you hodled bitcoin from the start you would done well. But that's not the point now is it?  

Nor is it relevant, because if i had gone back one more year to 24.10.2012, there wouldn't been real alternatives,
nor i could find any chart data. And back then btc marketcap would have been $119M,
(that would be nr 176 marketcap right now.)

So obviously it had room to grow in retrospect, like shitcoins have now. Question is: how much more room there is?

I was just pointing out that that they all were considered as low caps at some point, so you might want to take
a look at low caps to get gains (that's why i mentioned shiba).



And most of people in crypto are profit maximalists that don't care as much about
Fundamentals or code, nor do they understand them. I wouldn't judge them as they make most of the liquidity.


-cut-
I really think that this whole we buy 100$ with of coins and in 10 years we're rich and not doing anything else needs to stop.

I actually agree with all your points, but i realize that i don't know how much more room there still is to grow. I thought that ETH marketcap
was way too high when it was $12 so maybe don't listen to me Cheesy... But eth and btc now? maybe 10x? And even that could take years.
That's why i was talking about low caps as an alternative. As with buying low caps i have made most of my money.

This is certainly true, and if OP fully updated the rankings from 2009, it is evident that bitcoin has the highest ROI compared to the other cryptocurrencies.

Can you remind me what btc marketcap was in 2009? Did you get my point about low caps?
3338  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: October 28, 2022, 12:40:03 AM
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3339  Economy / Speculation / Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: October 28, 2022, 12:37:32 AM
           
Investing to top marketcap coins
           
            Investment advice you hear in crypto a lot is "Just HODL". And if you ask what bags to hodl, most people will point to bitcoin and other top marketcap coins.

           
            In this topic i made few portfolios to check out how it would have played out if you had put $1000 dollars ($100 per coin) to top 10 marketcap coins years ago and just holded them.


           
            I am not including buy fees into this or staking possibilities, nor i am counting possible fork rewards. Also i am removing all the stablecoins for obvious reason. Current data snapshot was recorded at the time of writing (28.10.2022)

            In 24.10.2021
top ten coins were
:
            | Current value| Profit / Loss| Change|
Bitcoin ($ 60,930.84)$100 worth -> 0.00164121 btc| $ 33.41| $ -66.59| -66.59%|
ETH ($ 4,087.90)$100 worth -> 0.02446244 eth| $ 37.10| $ -62.90| -62.90%|
BNB ($476.63)$100 worth -> 0.20980635 BNB| $ 60.00| $ -40.00| -40.00%|
ADA ($2.12)$100 worth -> 47.16981132 ada| $ 18.40| $ -81.60| -81.60%|
SOL ($202.36)$100 worth -> 0.49416881 sol| $ 15.16| $ -84.84| -84.84%|
XRP ($ 1.080)$100 worth -> 92.59259259 xrp| $ 42.77| $ -57.23| -57.23%|
DOT ($ 42.39)$100 worth -> 2.35904695 dot| $ 14.91| $ -85.09| -85.09%|
DOGE ($ 0.2770)$100 worth -> 361.01083033 doge | $ 28.59| $ -71.41| -71.41%|
LUNA ($ 41.48)$100 worth -> 2.41080039 LUNA| $ 5.81| $ -94.19| -94.19%|
UNI ($ 25.84)$100 worth -> 3.86996904 uni| $ 26.60| $ -73.40| -73.40%|
| TOTAL | CHANGE
| $ 282.77| -71.72%
In 24.10.2020
top ten coins were
:
            | Current value| Profit / Loss| Change|
BTC ($ 13,108.06)$100 worth -> 0.00762889 btc| $ 155.72| $ 55.72| 55.72%|
ETH ($ 412.46)$100 worth -> 0.24244775 eth| $ 369.60| $ 269.60| 269.60%|
XRP ($ 0.2564)$100 worth -> 390.01560062 xrp| $ 180.97| $ 80.97| 80.97%|
BCH ($ 275.12)$100 worth -> 0.36347776 bch| $ 40.99| $ -59.01| -59.01%|
LINK ($ 12.73)$100 worth -> 7.85545954 link| $ 54.56| $ -45.44| -45.44%|
BNB ($ 30.59)$100 worth -> 3.26904217 bnb| $ 937.63| $ 837.63| 837.63%|
LTC ($ 59.10)$100 worth -> 1.69204738 ltc| $ 93.01| $ -6.99| -6.99%|
DOT ($ 4.360)$100 worth -> 22.93577982 dot| $ 145.44| $ 45.44| 45.44%|
ADA (0.1081)$100 worth -> 925.0693802 ada| $ 361.89| $ 261.89| 261.89%|
BSV ($ 175.50)$100 worth -> 0.56980057 bsv| $ 26.94| $ -73.06| -73.06%|
| TOTAL | CHANGE
            | $ 2,366.26| 136.63%
            In 24.10.2019
top ten coins were
:
            | Current value| Profit / Loss| Change|
BTC ($ 7,493.49)$100 worth -> 0.01334492btc| $ 272.29| $ 172.29| 172.29%|
ETH ($ 162.17)$100 worth -> 0.61663686 eth| $ 939.47| $ 839.47| 839.47%|
XRP ($ 0.2785)$100 worth -> 359.06642729 xrp| $ 166.54| $ 66.54| 66.54%|
BCH ($ 214.05)$100 worth -> 0.46718057 bch| $ 52.70| $ -47.30| -47.30%|
LTC ($ 50.07)$100 worth -> 1.99720391 ltc| $ 109.83| $ 9.83| 9.83%|
BNB ($ 16.89)$100 worth -> 5.92066311 bnb| 1,698.05| $ 1,598.05| 1,598.05%|
EOS (2.750)$100 worth -> 36.36363636 eos| $ 40.95| $ -59.05| -59.05%|
BSV ($ 106.89)$100 worth -> 0.93554121 bsv| $ 44.21| $ -55.79| -55.79%|
XLM ($ 0.06061)$100 worth -> 1649.89275697 xlm| $ 184.29| $ 84.29| 84.29%|
TRX ($ 0.01530)$100 worth -> 6535.94771242 trx| $ 411.50| $ 311.50| 311.50%|
| TOTAL | CHANGE
| $ 3,920.58| 292.06%
In 24.10.2018
top ten coins were
:
            | Current value| Profit / Loss| Change|
BTC ($ 6,495.84)$100 worth -> 0.01539447 btc| $ 314.25| $ 214.25| 214.25%|
ETH ($ 203.85)$100 worth -> 0.49055678 eth| $ 747.88| $ 647.88| 647.88%|
XRP ($ 0.4572)$100 worth -> 218.72265967 xrp| $ 101.47| $ 1.47| 1.47%|
BCH ($ 442.45)$100 worth -> 0.22601424 bch| $ 25.50| $ -74.50| -74.50%|
EOS ($ 5.380)$100 worth -> 18.58736059 eos| $ 20.93| $ -79.07| -79.07%|
XLM ($ 0.2378)$100 worth -> 420.52144659 xlm| $ 46.97| $ -53.03| -53.03%|
LTC ($ 52.52)$100 worth -> 1.90403656 ltc| $ 104.76| $ 4.76| 4.76%|
ADA ($ 0.07432)$100 worth -> 1345.532831 ada| $ 526.51| $ 426.51| 426.51%|
XMR ($ 106.95)$100 worth -> 0.93501636 xmr| $ 136.75| $ 36.75| 36.75%|
TRX ($ 0.02348)$100 worth -> 4258.94378194 trx| $ 268.14| $ 168.14| 168.14%|
| TOTAL | CHANGE
| $ 2,293.09| 129.31%
            In 24.10.2017
top ten coins were
:
            | Current value| Profit / Loss| Change|
BTC ($ 5,526.64)$100 worth -> 0.01809418 btc| $ 369.30| $ 269.30| 269.30%|
ETH ($ 298.33)$100 worth -> 0.33519928 eth| $ 510.86| $ 410.86| 410.86%|
XRP ($ 0.2066)$100 worth -> 484.02710552 xrp| $ 224.49| $ 124.49| 124.49%|
BCH ($ 326.89)$100 worth -> 0.3059133 bch| $ 34.51| $ -65.49| -65.49%|
LTC ($ 55.96)$100 worth -> 1.78699071 ltc| $ 98.32| $ -1.68| -1.68%|
DASH ($ 293.20)$100 worth -> 0.34106412 dash| $ 14.14| $ -85.86| -85.86%|
XEM ($ 0.2126)$100 worth -> 470.36688617 xem| $ 18.43| $ -81.57| -81.57%|
NEO ($ 30.15)$100 worth -> 3.31674959 neo| $ 28.16| $ -71.84| -71.84%|
BCCOIN ($ 193.70)$100 worth -> 0.51626226 bccoin| $ 0.0| $ -100.00| -100%|
XMR ($ 88.40)$100 worth -> 1.13122172 xmr| $ 165.44| $ 65.44| 65.44%|
| TOTAL | CHANGE
| $ 1463.66| 46.37%
            In 24.10.2016
top ten coins were
:
            | Current value| Profit / Loss| Change|
BTC ($ 653.76)$100 worth -> 0.15296133 btc| $ 3,121.12| $ 3,021.12| 3,021.12%|
ETH ($ 11.97)$100 worth -> 8.35421888 eth| $ 12.74 k| $ 12.64 k| 12,638.51%|
XRP ($ 0.009065)$100 worth -> 11031.4396029 xrp| $ 5,121.90| $ 5,021.90| 5,021.90%|
LTC ($ 3.870)$100 worth -> 25.83979328 ltc| $ 1,422.48| $ 1,322.48| 1,322.48%|
ETC ($ 1.030)$100 worth -> 97.08737864 etc| $ 2,438.83| $ 2,338.83| 2,338.83%|
XMR ($ 6.420)$100 worth -> 15.57632399 xmr| $ 2,278.04| $ 2,178.04| 2,178.04%|
DASH ($ 9.850)$100 worth -> 10.15228426 dash| $ 421.12| $ 321.12| 321.12%|
REP ($ 5.130)$100 worth -> 19.49317739 rep| $ 138.97| $ 38.97| 38.97%|
MAID ($ 0.09019)$100 worth -> 1108.77037366 maid| $ 148.87| $ 48.87| 48.87%|
STEEM($ 0.1899)$100 worth -> 526.59294366 steem| $ 122.53| $ 22.53| 22.53%|
| TOTAL | CHANGE
| $ 26.95 k| 2,695.18%
            In 24.10.2015
top ten coins were
:
            | Current value| Profit / Loss| Change|
BTC ($ 281.65)$100 worth -> 0.35505059 btc| $ 7,246.86| $ 7,146.86| 7,146.86%|
XRP ($ 0.004662)$100 worth -> 21450.02145 xrp| $ 9,969.97| $ 9,869.97| 9,869.97%|
LTC ($ 3.10)$100 worth -> 32.25806452 ltc| $ 1,776.77| $ 1,676.77| 1,676.77%|
ETH ($ 0.5636)$100 worth -> 177.43080199 eth| $ 270.74 k| $ 270.64 k| 270,639.89%|
DASH ($ 2.240)$100 worth -> 44.64285714 dash| $ 1,852.23| $ 1,752.23| 1,752.23%|
DOGE ($ 0.0001140)$100 worth -> 877192.982456 doge| $ 70.80 k| $ 70.70 k| 70,698.25%|
BTS ($ 0.003941)$100 worth -> 25374.2704897 bts| $ 258.95| $ 158.95| 158.95%|
XLM ($ 0.001923)$100 worth -> 52002.0800832 xlm| $ 5,813.83| $ 5,713.83| 5,713.83%|
PPC ($ 0.3425)$100 worth -> 291.97080292 ppc| $ 132.06| $ 32.06| 32.06%|
NXT ($ 0.007493)$100 worth -> 13345.7894034 nxt| $ 46.31| $ -53.69| -53.69%|
| TOTAL | CHANGE
| $ 368.68 k| 36,767.95%
            In 24.10.2014
top ten coins were
:
            | Current value| Profit / Loss| Change|
BTC ($ 358.34)$100 worth -> 0.27906458 btc| $ 5,695.65| $ 5,595.65| 5,595.65%|
XRP ($ 0.005082)$100 worth -> 19677.2924046 xrp| $ 9,146.01| $ 9,046.01| 9,046.01%|
LTC ($ 3.75)$100 worth -> 26.66666667 ltc| $ 1,469.07| $ 1,369.07| 1,369.07%|
BTS ($ 0.02372)$100 worth -> 4215.85160202 bts| $ 43.02| $ -56.98| -56.98%|
DOGE (0.0002510)$100 worth -> 398406.374502 doge| $ 32.13 k| $ 32.03 k| 32,031.47%|
NXT ($ 0.02232)$100 worth -> 4480.28673835 nxt| $ 15.55| $ -84.45| -84.45%|
PPC ($ 0.8643)$100 worth -> 115.70056693 ppc| $ 52.33| $ -47.67| -47.67%|
MAID ($ 0.02184)$100 worth -> 4578.75457875 maid| $ 614.91| $ 514.91| 514.91%|
XCP ($ 3.70)$100 worth -> 27.02702703 xcp| $ 121.05| $ 21.05| 21.05%|
DASH ($ 2.040)$100 worth -> 49.01960784 dash| $ 2,036.76| $ 1,936.76| 1,936.76%|
| TOTAL | CHANGE
| $ 50.34 k| 5,034.13%
            In 24.10.2013
top ten coins were
:
            | Current value| Profit / Loss| Change|
BTC ($ 198.23)$100 worth -> 0.50446451 btc| $ 10.30 k| $ 10.20 k| 10,199.41%|
XRP ($ 0.008596)$100 worth -> 11633.3178222 xrp| $ 5,409.49| $ 5,309.49| 5,309.49%|
LTC ($ 2.270)$100 worth -> 44.05286344 ltc| $ 2,429.07| $ 2,329.07| 2,329.07%|
PPC ($ 0.3429)$100 worth -> 291.63021289 ppc| $ 131.94| $ 31.94| 31.94%|
NMC ($ 0.4678)$100 worth -> 213.76656691 nmc| $ 797.96| $ 697.96| 697.96%|
NVC ($ 4.110)$100 worth -> 24.33090024 nvc| $ 18.73| $ -81.27| -81.27%|
XPM(XLB) (0.6938)$100 worth -> 144.13375613 xpm| $ 288.32| $ 188.32| 188.32%|
FTC ($ 0.08326)$100 worth -> 1201.0569301 ftc| $ 7.60| $ -92.40| -92.40%|
WDC ($ 0.01551)$100 worth -> 6447.45325596 wdc| $ 197.45|$ 97.45| 97.45%|
TRC (0.1011)$100 worth -> 989.11968348 trc| $ 12.53| $ -87.47| -87.47%|
| TOTAL | CHANGE
| $ 18.59 k| 1,858.63%

As you see, some of the coins didn't really make it.
Granted that some of the coins weren't really high marketcap in the first place, even though they were top coins at the time.
(well except from bitconnect but that's whole another story)
My personal bet is that you could still 10x your $100 with top mc coins with this tactic in the future but that it wouldn't really bring you financial freedom if you are poor in the first place.

With small amount of money to invest ($100), you are better off finding micro/low/mid marketcap gems that has room to grow. And hodl
There's a high change that you might lose it all when you buy wrong shady low caps,
but as it's only $100 you are gambling with, possibility of high gains outweigh the high risk imho
Because your while your 24.10.2020 bitcoin investment is now up under 60%,
consider being exremely lucky and finding microcap like shiba inu at the same time, and that you threw $100 to it instead....

Again i am not counting fees but price per coin was $0.000000000168 and with that you would have got 595,238,095,238 SHIB...
That's now worth over $6M and in 29.10.2021 it peaked in bloody $40M!!!
And as history is that while most coins die, lot of the huge ATHs are small blips next to new ATHs in retrospect so hodling is most of the time the way to go, it just depends a lot what the fundamentals of the coin you hodl happen to be
...Anyway, as this advice (invest to top coins) has worked quitew well in the past.
I wanted to try and see if it would work now and i made new portfolio for 24.10.2022 top mc coins:



            So here are top ten mc coins in 24.10.2022!:            
            BTC, ETH, BNB, XRP, ADA, SOL, DOGE, MATIC, DOT, TRX            
            I am hoping that there's a change we all might still get rich with this tactic
and just by hodling. So let's wait and see. Good luck everyone.
           
                       
3340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A disheartening true life winning story on: October 24, 2022, 04:28:16 PM
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Can this guy win the case?

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Well link to the source of the story would help for starters. You talk about USD conversion and we don't even know which casino was it or even the country this took in place, or if he even was a citizen of this country. Different countries have different resources to handle something that happens overseas.
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