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WTF are they spending it on? Tech stuff and/or buying BTC so they can hold enough of the total mined coins to dominate all market prices and resell them at multiples of the current price?
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TheButterZone 1BUTRZ85L1JuoX5y2XRjxJaYcjcMLhPJcY
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Well, this topic was a massive waste of time and energy. I'm not on Default Trust (#19-20), nor am I/would I be attached to being on it (#4). Subjective systems are subjective. /unsubscribe
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Can anyone screenshot or otherwise link me to the Default Trust list? The closest I could find was under my user version of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full - scrolled to the bottom (TLOT is one of the 3 on my trust list) and saw: TheLordOfTime serp DefaultTrust sirius
theymos
HostFat
dooglus
Maged
OgNasty
CanaryInTheMine
Tomatocage
SaltySpitoon
BadBear
escrow.ms
OldScammerTagAren't all the names in bold the only ones on Default Trust? |
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I agree that murder is much worse then theft, however "trying" to damage one's reputation by claiming they have killed someone is not worse then actually stealing from someone. There are plenty of people who have gone on to be successful after being found not guilty of murder (and after being accused of murder by the government).
I would say that some "double negative" trust rating would be appropriate for people who have killed before, for example, altoid/ross/DPR
My reputation has already been damaged by the libel; do you think I need to end up on death row, in prison or under legal defense bills typically exceeding commonly scammed amounts (>$100k vs <$10k) as the end result of the libel, for this to cross your moral line, MilesJohan? First of all, it was just a joke and it was posted in your moderated thread so I knew it was going to be deleted by you and it wasn't intended to hurt your reputation because I think everyone on the forum knows your not a murderer. Secondly, reading the negative rep you left me you're doing the exact thing you're accusing me of doing except you're not joking about it and you're using your forum status to your personal advantage and not for the well being of the site. "I wouldn't trust this user with a single grain of rice or anything more valuable." is what you left on my profile. I don't think things like this are benefiting the site at all especially since I haven't done anything besides make a joke. Negative repping someone is only suppose to be used for people who are scammers and show suspicions of scamming, and you can't use it for anything else or you're breaking the rules. I don't think this displays enough responsibility to have that kind of power. I've been here for almost two years and I've contributed a lot to the site and for my account to be ruined over something like this is ridiculous. I think if the "Trusted Feedback" were only able to be used for people who've proven they can use it responsibly it would solve a lot of the problems around the forum. My account is branded with negative rep for something that doesn't have anything to do with trading and I believe it will hurt my business around the forums and I don't think that's fair for a member who hasn't scammed or broken any of the rules.
As if you psychically knew that I would be able to delete the "joke" before anyone else but me could see it. Ex post facto BS! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. If I can't trust you to not indefensibly "joke" about me being a murderer, then why would I trust you with anything less? For me to become a murder suspect by the community, and your apparent attempts to induce PTSD in me too (1- first time "the people he murders" 2- double down "you act like a murderer" 3- "borderline sociopath and has narcissistic personality disorder"), those are no "joke". |
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Topic will be relocked in case of more of the non-stop BS below. I might look like a noob asking this but can you be more specific what this service does?
I get 1 email address and then send one email to that address and that address forwards it to another 5 addresses?
k, will you be able to view that email? and will i be able to view the emails i receive, there? Also, how do i add forward addresses? Through you?
I see you're just copy-pasting the FAQs answered in post #2, so those posts are now and will continue to be, deleted. i am interested in amaze service can u get working for me?
What?
what want butter forwards! are u of mental retardation?
i seeing your PRIVATE message. it is not my indulgence. i do not wish to do the sexy things u say
So you want to provide your 5 target email addresses and forwarding address in public then? They're going to get crawled by bots and spammed into oblivion.
i think there is something wrong to this person!!!!
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TECSHARE: /nods I think that 3-prong test varies by jurisdiction/legal system. I was just going by the OED; libel: a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation.
If that accusation came from someone with much less than a ~2 year history on BCT, it might not override. But, it didn't.
IMO, it's never acceptable/excusable to "joke" about someone being a murderer unless you have probable cause to suspect them of being a murderer or everyone can see public records they have been convicted of same.
The first two was from my understanding of the libel laws in the US and the standard of proof that must be presented in order for someone to be 'liable' for libel. The third bullet is my interpretation of US supreme court rulings on first amendment issues regarding satire of 'famous' people and libel. I really cannot argue the moral issue of "joking" that someone is a murderer as this is not the appropriate venue for that and I do not have a strong enough of an opinion. I would say that if you truly think there is a connection between his two comments and his ability to be trusted then the negative trust is appropriate. If you cannot make a strong logical connection between someone making this empty claim and their ability to be trusted then the negative trust is not appropriate. Remember that negative trust should be given if "you were scammed or if you strongly believe this person is a scammer" Well, as I cannot afford to bring a libel suit, my use of the word "libel" is only for OED (non-lawyers' common understanding) purposes, not Black's Law/statutes/case law. If someone is willing to damage someone's reputation by lying about their commission of the ultimate individual crime of violence (second overall only to mass murder), that's far worse IMO than simply committing property crimes, aka scamming. Perhaps there should be a double negative rating that covers accusations and defenses of heinous violent crimes. To make it absolutely clear... Murder>Theft |
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In order for something to be considered libel, it needs to be - untrue
- cause you actual harm
- said/written in a way that others would reasonably believe it to be true
I don't know you, and really don't know one way or another if you actually have killed someone before, but I think it is fair to say that you have not (at least for purposes of this discussion). You could probably argue that you have never been convicted of killing someone before nor have you been suspected of killing someone (both of which I assume to be true). I am not sure about the other two issues. Do you seriously think that an empty accusation of being a murder without any evidence would override the trust that you have within the community? I personally would doubt so. I do think that the OP's actions may warrant a temporary ban if he has shown a true pattern of this kind of behavior (making empty accusations without evidence - however once evidence is presented the accusation is no longer 'empty') as what he is doing could be considered to be trolling; however the pattern would most likely need to be a lot longer then just two posts I think that 3-prong test varies by jurisdiction/legal system. I was just going by the OED; libel: a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation. If that accusation came from someone with much less than a ~2 year history on BCT, it might not override. But, it didn't. IMO, it's never acceptable/excusable to "joke" about someone being a murderer unless you have probable cause to suspect them of being a murderer or everyone can see public records they have been convicted of same. Even if you have... Sorry if my post offended you. I meant it as a joke and I didn't think anyone would take it seriously or it would affect someone's business. I'll be more careful what I post in the marketplace in the future. I'll go ahead and remove the one I left you, I'm dealing with PTSD right now and working through it so I don't have a good sense of what I say is okay or not. Im a friendly person and it makes me mad when I get into fights with other people that aren't hostile because I want to be friendly and not arrogant or mean. Thanks.
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Meanwhile people like butterzone go around every day leaving trust for people who don't even have any direct involvement with them, but my use of trust to defend myself from harassment was wrong.  When the neutral trust option bubble was added a few days ago, I downgraded almost all my negs to neutrals as appropriate. I think all the negs I've left are now for the "I am a victim of this person, so nemo me impune lacessit" circumstances. |
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Unless you have some kind of actual evidence of someone being a criminal then you should not post as such. I do think that it is an overreaction for him to give you negative trust over two posts (this is much less of a threshold then what TECSHARE) had when giving negative trust to armis).
I do think that his many self moderated threads are very sketchy as they prevent people from asking honest questions about what he is selling.
I initially left a neutral on Wardrick, but his/her persistence in "joking" that I was a murderer (libel) left me no choice but to escalate it to a negative trust. To say that distrusting a libeler, "a plain asshole" in other words, is "an overreaction"... /shakeshead This topic is just more evidence against him, and has been saved as PDF. Wardrick seems to want us to believe simultaneously that he/she doesn't have a pattern of "joking" (libeling) about people other than me being criminals (when others could just be self-moderating or reporting to mods his/her libel away), but also that this isn't just laser-focused aggression against me (I guess I can give him a partial pass on J.Socal after discovering some previous trades they did). Then, I received a PM from Graven, claiming to be Wardrick. Something was alleged in there, that if I were a medical professional, would be prohibited by HIPAA from disclosing. However, despite only having medical stuff as a hobby, I added Graven to my PM ignore list because it sounded like BS. Graven, will you allow me to quote the PM you sent me in this topic, for peer review? I do think that his many self moderated threads are very sketchy as they prevent people from asking honest questions about what he is selling.
Self-moderation does not prevent people from asking honest questions. There is no "pending approval" stage like you'd see on a Wordpress or Disqus comment section. Self-moderation does however allow people to interfere with business by libeling the OP, spamming, etc... until such time as the OP chooses to delete the abusive replies viewable by the public until then. PS: I either forgot or was unaware I was on default trust. Not that there absolutely has to be a crosslinking, but theymos didn't rate me on http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=TheButterZone&sign=ANY&type=RECV - if it will stop Wardrick's libelous posting pattern, I have no attachment to being on DT. |
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So why can government kill with impunity? It can't. Rejecting reality and substituting your own. Welcome to my ignore list. |
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The people who should be taking responsibility for stopping quotas are the defense attorneys. Every time they put a cop on the stand, ask him if he had made his quota yet. Because the policy exists in writing and there is a disciplinary record associated with it he can't dare deny he has a quota. It will make him look like a real piece of crap in front of the jury.
I don't think the policy does exist in writing. If it did, we would be able to hold the people who implement it responsible. Techshares is right, the policy is immoral as it incentivizes the police to write tickets or make arrests they might not otherwise. The public would not tolerate a system where an arrest stems not from breaking the law, but because a cop is trying to get a bonus or meet some arbitrarily set quota that has to do with revenue generation, not upholding the law. I seem to remember reading a story on a civil rights forum where a cop was on the stand for a traffic ticket written just outside the courthouse. The intersection where it was written was visible from the courtroom window. The cop perjured about the traffic device (forget if it was the light, a street sign, or road/curb paint), judge looked outside and saw he did so... no perjury charge or any punishment whatsoever. Join the government and you will effectively get away with anything. The rare prosecution is the exception to the rule. |
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Don't provide services that can be "stolen", then. Business don't get to kill non-customers who use their free WiFi, nor do non-profit WiFi hotspot operators. So why can government kill with impunity?
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Barbeque sauce or guacamole or rice or tortilla chips.
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The ship, for being on a planet with "global warming".
What? What does global warming have to do with the sinking of the Titanic? That iceberg wouldn't have been floating around if it wasn't for "global warming" - the entire planet would have been a glacier. Wow, that's really critical thinking |
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So I can't keep them , but I can sell them.. ! so I will sell them that will take down the price to bottom and then by them back , and then there will be no restriction and I can do whatever I want whether to keep them or not.
Ya I figured that someone would answer like that lol That's all good  I generally meant that in the end result you couldn't have anything to do with the 1 million BTC that were given to you, but you could dispose of them anyway you wanted so I guess you're technically correct in what you would do with them lol I wouldn't trust that many BTC to be spent properly by any entity/entities that I had nothing to do with, so I would have no choice but to send them to 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE. |
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The ship, for being on a planet with "global warming".
What? What does global warming have to do with the sinking of the Titanic? That iceberg wouldn't have been floating around if it wasn't for "global warming" - the entire planet would have been a glacier. |
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Search for 'bitcoin tee' on eBay and ask the sellers if they take BTC? Would be surprised if non-bitcoiners were making/selling them.
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