why do people agree to pay taxes?

[pattu1]

for funds from the tax payments on target I think everyone would be happy to pay the tax, such tax funds were used to build schools, roads, bridges, hospitals, transport and others, which often occurs in practice, the tax funds are often misused for personal benefit, tax funds from large corporations often reduced to personal interests as well
as long as there is no improvement of the system of tax funds received and used then the public will be reluctant to pay taxes, the extent of transparency of tax funds used will determine how much tax revenue the state ... 

I'm lovin public ledger for public spending...

I don't think a public ledger for spending will be sufficient to curb corruption.
The quality of work done in public projects would have to be monitored. Tracking the money spent alone will not be sufficient.

[El Emperador]

In my opinion people agree to pay taxes for 2 main reasons:

- People are afraid to consequences ( penalties, jail, etc. )
- People think states provide useful services with tax money ( and they strongly believe it... )

[Robert Paulson]

In my opinion people agree to pay taxes for 2 main reasons:

- People are afraid to consequences ( penalties, jail, etc. )
- People think states provide useful services with tax money ( and they strongly believe it... )

if people believed the states provide useful services there would be no need to threaten them with violence if they refused to pay.
the obvious fact is that almost no one would buy the government's services at the current price.

[worle1bm]

if people believed the states provide useful services there would be no need to threaten them with violence if they refused to pay.
the obvious fact is that almost no one would buy the government's services at the current price.

Except that the majority of folks do "buy" the government's services at the current price. Hence why you are an outlier on an obscure internet site for a digital currency a small percentage of the world even knows exists, and not out speaking to masses of folks who agree with you.

[RodeoX]

I pay my taxes and I'm certainly not afraid of my government. I don't always like how they spend it, but the basic idea of taxes is an idea is so successful that it is used in almost every part of the world.

For me the biggest problem is that we all pay wildly different taxes. Furthermore, the wealthiest people often pay the lowest rates. And corporations have gamed the system to a point of corruption.  They get tax breaks for sending jobs out of the country and are rewarded by paying almost nothing (or nothing). Of course the bills still come in and that leaves you and me to pay for their breaks.

[Robert Paulson]

if people believed the states provide useful services there would be no need to threaten them with violence if they refused to pay.
the obvious fact is that almost no one would buy the government's services at the current price.

Except that the majority of folks do "buy" the government's services at the current price. Hence why you are an outlier on an obscure internet site for a digital currency a small percentage of the world even knows exists, and not out speaking to masses of folks who agree with you.

when i say buy i mean voluntary exchange of services for money.
paying the government at the point of a gun is not buying.
you don't know who i am, i don't see how you can make any claims regarding who i speak to.
attacking me personally won't justify your belief that having a group of people called the government force you to buy something at the point of a gun is anything but plain robbery.

[Robert Paulson]

I pay my taxes and I'm certainly not afraid of my government. I don't always like how they spend it, but the basic idea of taxes is an idea is so successful that it is used in almost every part of the world.

For me the biggest problem is that we all pay wildly different taxes. Furthermore, the wealthiest people often pay the lowest rates. And corporations have gamed the system to a point of corruption.  They get tax breaks for sending jobs out of the country and are rewarded by paying almost nothing (or nothing). Of course the bills still come in and that leaves you and me to pay for their breaks.

if you could freely choose how much you would like to pay to the government for the services it currently provides to you, would you pay the same amount as you are forced paying today?

[twiifm]

I pay my taxes and I'm certainly not afraid of my government. I don't always like how they spend it, but the basic idea of taxes is an idea is so successful that it is used in almost every part of the world.

For me the biggest problem is that we all pay wildly different taxes. Furthermore, the wealthiest people often pay the lowest rates. And corporations have gamed the system to a point of corruption.  They get tax breaks for sending jobs out of the country and are rewarded by paying almost nothing (or nothing). Of course the bills still come in and that leaves you and me to pay for their breaks.

if you could freely choose how much you would like to pay to the government for the services it currently provides to you, would you pay the same amount as you are forced paying today?

Nice try but presenting false dilemma is a poor debate tactic

[Jihaqy]

I think when people agree to pay taxes, it means they will accept their government and accept everything .

[Seketsuna]

I think when people agree to pay taxes, it means they will accept their government and accept everything .

some are just forced to pay their taxes coz you know not paying your taxes could lead you to a trip to jail.

[murraypaul]

In my opinion people agree to pay taxes for 2 main reasons:
- People are afraid to consequences ( penalties, jail, etc. )
- People think states provide useful services with tax money ( and they strongly believe it... )

if people believed the states provide useful services there would be no need to threaten them with violence if they refused to pay.
the obvious fact is that almost no one would buy the government's services at the current price.

No, they would freeload on the backs of those who did pay.
Many, if not most, government services cannot be isolated to single individuals, they benefit many people.

[Robert Paulson]

In my opinion people agree to pay taxes for 2 main reasons:
- People are afraid to consequences ( penalties, jail, etc. )
- People think states provide useful services with tax money ( and they strongly believe it... )

if people believed the states provide useful services there would be no need to threaten them with violence if they refused to pay.
the obvious fact is that almost no one would buy the government's services at the current price.

No, they would freeload on the backs of those who did pay.
Many, if not most, government services cannot be isolated to single individuals, they benefit many people.

so let them freeload.
if enough people agreed to pay and as a side effect people who didn't pay for it enjoy it too where is the problem.
we all use google, very few people actually pay for it.

[murraypaul]

so let them freeload.
if enough people agreed to pay and as a side effect people who didn't pay for it enjoy it too where is the problem.

Why should they (you) be entitled to use the services others have paid for?
And some don't pay, the rest have to pay more to make up for it.
That makes it more likely that some more will decide not to pay, so the remaining pay even more, and so on.

[TheButterZone]

Don't provide services that can be "stolen", then. Business don't get to kill non-customers who use their free WiFi, nor do non-profit WiFi hotspot operators. So why can government kill with impunity?

[murraypaul]

Don't provide services that can be "stolen", then.

No armed forces?
No border control?
No roads?

So why can government kill with impunity?

It can't.

[TheButterZone]

So why can government kill with impunity?

It can't.

Rejecting reality and substituting your own. Welcome to my ignore list.

[NotLambchop]

...Welcome to my ignore list.

>types idiotic crap
>ignores everyone who corrects him

Stay poor, angry and stupid.

[teukon]

so let them freeload.
if enough people agreed to pay and as a side effect people who didn't pay for it enjoy it too where is the problem.

Why should they (you) be entitled to use the services others have paid for?
And some don't pay, the rest have to pay more to make up for it.

This is, precisely, an argument against taxation.

[lucky88888]

taxes are good in a honest government. but instead we have corruptions and conflicts of interest where they take most of the money and shove it down their own pockets instead of building a better country. so most of the tax money actually disappears.

we need a better way for funding the country. maybe a decentralized crowd fund based country?

[Lethn]

To be frank, I wouldn't mind having some sort of freicoin type cryptocurrency minus the pre-mining and stuff perhaps, then it's all consensual and they aren't using violence to tax people the trick would be getting a government to agree to such a thing because they love being able to oppress their citizens especially if it means it will get them extra votes.

If people don't like it we can always just do what we do in the markets now and just switch to another coin pretty easily.