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3341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 12, 2014, 02:32:17 PM
Good job SpaincoinDev, I support and still hold on!!, no se tomó Zamora en una hora! Be patient!

It seems not a good moment for altcoins, look Doge or others, even Bitcoin.


The people that think this coin is a scam, Could tell us what coin is valid for you? As I can see all the alts goes down right now. Why Spaincoin should be different?



Gladly. There's a bunch. But really, try and for once be honest, you don't want a real answer. Yes all cryptos are going through rough patches right now, including BTC, but ALL (except this crap) have rebounded. ALL, no exception. Including Pesetacoin.

And no, SPA hasn't and will not rebound. Anyone at all who looks into it immediately realizes there's absolutely nothing behind it that may create even the slightest possibility of a rebound. Just a very clumsy scam job.

But you really don't want to hear that, do you?
3342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 12, 2014, 01:40:07 PM
Ah the stink of the most rotten, raw mendacity! One of them packwolves at least admits it although one can't possibly put the common place of "have the decency" next to it because it is so obvious that these wolves don't know what decency is.

Lets go to the basic fallacy: They all pretend, first the interest of the coin and it "future". Them not being Spaniards obviously and having clearly demonstrated that their interest is only to get out and throw the bag they are holding at the slightest of opportunities. Of course they were blinded by their greed coming in and remain so, because they are stupid beyond their greed, first and foremost. Otherwise they would clearly see that, UNDER ANY AND ALL PERSPECTIVES, the only and very remote chance of even a very limited success of this coin hinges, exclusively, in being adopted to some level by a substantial amount of the Spanish population... never mind that this is supposed to be, you know, the "money of the people" ... of Spain, that is. They know this. The dev, stupid as his actions have demonstrated him to be, knows this. And yet, the dev, who is the one making the decisions, is so far removed from reality that even dares to put a "value" in giving -from his own  pocket, mind you- 1 SPA (worth a cent and a half, if you can find somebody blind enough to buy it) to beta testers of the distribution software. Evidently, this guy lives in a parallel reality. So, no one will be surprised to find that for him 1,000, 2,000 -let alone 5,000-10,000- SPAs are a fortune in the making --err, let's clarify that, as stated above 1,000 coins will be worth much less than 5 euros since a significant part of those people receiving them will dump them as soon as they can for real money. So it is a given that whether giving away 2,000 SPas or 10,000 SPAs, there's goinmg to be a dumping, like there always is, on every similar coin, after the free distribution or air-drop. He there was one after the distribution of Aurora, wasn't there? Err, wait a minute, just one minute... isn't SPA a copy of Aurora? yes it is. But Icelandics are very few by comparison to 50 million Spaniards so the results of any adoption by the Spanish people would have a much more significant meaning ... and level of success, right? So, granted, Aurora has not been a resounding success so far but, from where everyone is standing right now, wouldn't you just sign for SPA being worth at any time in the near future, roughly 1 Euro per coin? That wouldn't be that bad, would it?over 100 times what SPA is "worth" today...

But lets go to the core of the mendacity: Since the blinding greed is so obvious, the pack of wolves tell the not the not-the-sharpest-knife-in-the-kitchen dev that he must stick to the original plan because it would add "credibility" to the coin. But, as the dev has stated many times, when he devised that original, initial distribution plan the coin have been expected to reach some decent value, some VERY decent value, actually. Obviously not the value previous to the dump, but a "significant value". How significant -we pressed him to clarify? well, anything "between 10 and 50 euros" (his words verbatim). Something "worth the while" for the Spaniards to try it and hopefully adopt it as their "money of the people". So the "credibility", the "stick to the original idea/plan" actually means to give the people, like I had pointed out in a post above, something between 5,000 and 10,000 SPAs. Now the dev pretends 1,000 to 2,000 maybe will fit the bill even if those ridiculous amounts won't come remotely close to the minimal value of 10 euros, let alone 50.

Fallacy, mendacity... plain stupidity. No wonder the media in Spain will not touch this joke perpetrated by a very, very stupid, nameless dev from Valladolid. Even though the pesetacoin guys have chosen the class act attitude to let the pieces fall where evidently they are bound to fall without any further closeness from them to the obvious stink from this rotten, stupid, stupid attempt to scam money from people. They could easily stick the final fork in the duck, but cleverly choose to remain detached from it, left to its inevitable death.

Hey, but there are the Chinese... in the Spanish traditional vernacular, when you scam somebody, you don't just scam him, you scam him "like a you would a Chinese". Obviously the dev believe that miracle will still happen and he will scam not just the Chinese but the Spaniards also. Tall fucking order if you ask me, because the joke will definitely be on you.

And the pack of wolves, of course.
3343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 12, 2014, 02:15:13 AM
Hey dev, how about spit in your face excuse? Today ALL of cryptoland is up 30% on average, from Bitcoin to Sturncoin an d everything in between. Even joke coins. Even Pesetacoin (+33% at the moment)... well, all except this crap that has fallen beyond what anyone is even looking at.

Any more excuses?

Meanwhile pay attention to what a bunch of genetic greedy losers are telling you, que vas bien...
3344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 11, 2014, 07:47:03 PM
Another landmank: 100th out of 100:http://coinmarketcap.com/#USD

As for the recommendations to keep the original plan... well no one is going to care for the "drop" so it is a matter of keeping the hope a bit longer or just declare this crap dead on arrival. Your choice.
3345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 11, 2014, 04:39:12 PM

My plan didn't expect the value of SPA, altcoins and BTC to drop so dramatically during the past month. That plan is no longer valid because 100SPA is not nearly enough incentive for people to get coins.


And what happens if btc/altcoin price recovers? Now you've given a great reason to dump everything. The initial distribution plan is fine, its called rolling with the punches. If you match coins added to the marketplace per day from mining and the airdrop, you've somewhat bottlenecked a great influx of coins. Slow and steady wins the race, don't get impatient and go back on the original plan... its a nice middle finger the the assholes that bought 1000 SPA for 5 btc only 3 weeks ago.

On the contrary, if you give 1000 coins no one is even going to look at you. You said between the equivalent of 10-50 euros per person and now again this shit? No one is going to request it and give you any personal information for such a pittance. Oh and the retreat of the BTC et all is something like what, 20% altogether (and quickly recovering) while SPA is going down to the tune of that percentage EVERY SINGLE DAY.

When one doesn't have arguments and pretends to make one under clear, evident false premises, guess what the consequence is? Lack of credibility. No wonder SPA is where it is. When someone has nothing intelligent to say, guess what's the best option? to keep his mouth shut.

And not actually doing what you accuse others of: TROLLING.

Oh and buttonmc, the BTC ALTs HAVE INDEED RECOVERED today (have a luck a bitleu). while SPA is in red still 18% for the last 24 hours. The stupid, stupid, trolling excuse of the dev doesn't hold any water, as everyone realizes what a scam this is and runs for the exits. Giving away 1,000 or 2,000 will make no more than a few hundred requests, a can almost guarantee it so you tell me in what way that benefits the bagholders like you. More or less the same than the incredibly "generous" ONE COIN of his own, mind you- he will give away to the beta testers. How much is that in real money (or BTC)? people don't even bother to pick that up from the floors...

Which goes to show, as if it wasn't evident enough already, what the disconnect with reality this guy has. But he's about to get some religion in only a few days when he is going to once again insult the people of Spain with what he -and only he- considers a gift. Spaniards are about to clearly tell him exactly in what part of his anatomy they rather see him inserting the "gift".
3346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 11, 2014, 09:05:22 AM
So they are going to "air drop" between 5,000 and 10,000 SPA to everyone that ask for them... good, hot air but with a lot of zeroes in it, may catch the imagination of the people and decide to buy a tablet, download a wallet, open an account at Cryptsy and trade it for euros that take weeks to get home after they are taken 20% or more off in fees. I believe millions of Spaniards will fall for this, I'm sure...

Oh wait, how many coins were there available to be "air dropped"? 50 million? so if 5 million people request the coins, that's it, isn't it? (5,000,000 x 10,000 = 50,000,000). Hum, Spain has 50 million Spaniards... I must be missing something here...
if airdrop will be 1000 or more coin...  price down like aurora...  300-500 satoshi for SPA  Grin

 well THE DEV ALREADY SAID THAT THE DROP WILL BE BETWEEN 10 AND 50 EUROS PER PERSON, THAT MEANS, AT CURRENT PRICE, BETWEEN 5,000 AND 10,000 spa (sorry caps stuck). and 300-500 satoshi seems like a perfectly reasonable price after the dump...but, in all fairness, I wish it would follow the aurora route, because that one rebounded to a decent value currently so if they give you 10,000 and you buy another 10,000 for a pittance, you can find yourself eventually with $30,000 in your pocket... IF it follows aurora. Most likely, it will not but hey, way abandon hope completely... the dev is working so hard at... what is he working hard at again?
3347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 11, 2014, 07:48:49 AM
So they are going to "air drop" between 5,000 and 10,000 SPA to everyone that ask for them... good, hot air but with a lot of zeroes in it, may catch the imagination of the people and decide to buy a tablet, download a wallet, open an account at Cryptsy and trade it for euros that take weeks to get home after they are taken 20% or more off in fees. I believe millions of Spaniards will fall for this, I'm sure...

Oh wait, how many coins were there available to be "air dropped"? 50 million? so if 5 million people request the coins, that's it, isn't it? (5,000,000 x 10,000 = 50,000,000). Hum, Spain has 50 million Spaniards... I must be missing something here...
3348  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: [ANN][SPA] Spaincoin El dinero del Pueblo para el Pueblo on: April 10, 2014, 12:17:51 AM
Hombre esta bien eso de los chinos, pero a esos ya no les engaña ni dios, o sea que tus esperanzas, ya sabes...

Oye y como aqui ya te han visto el plumero en ingles y en español, estoy seguro que has aprendido lo suficiente de esta historia para lanzar otra moneda... yo te sugiero bomberotorerocoin,o canelocoin, o primocoin, que tienen mas gracia y menos empaque que Spacoin y a lo mejor... mira ahi tienes al Doge...

Despues de todo, que tienes que perder? por comparacion sera un exito arrollador sin duda alguna.

Y oye, como no das la cara, que mas da? Si no esa, otra y otra y otra... Y puedes convencer facilmente a "comerciantes" ahi en Valladolid, yo te sugiero que te acerques con la idea a las inmobiliarias que como estan haciendo un negocion todas ellas, seguro que les interesa. Como a la gestoria esa.

Nada, nada, a trabajar... quiero decir a eso que tu llamas trabajar, no te asustes.
3349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 08, 2014, 02:19:14 AM
It's alive, it's alive! 4 mangy BTC someone decided to throw away on the speculative chance that it would rebound minimally on airdrop...and up 30%. what do you know?

Now the dev and friends can proceed with the interrupted dumping?
3350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 07, 2014, 11:36:35 PM

goodluck to us all
and spain rocks :> es verdad


Spain does rock, indeed. Too bad that SPAN has take its name in vain...
3351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 07, 2014, 09:49:58 PM
we're updating the spaincoin faucet to the latest github version... any sign of appreciation would be nice.
thanks!
SeD2iHgTPykMCBjzcbjVgNDxDh9p6g2a3j

Really? Let me see, so you can get 0.000000000000016 SPA every hour? Really, really?

You cannot be serious!

you get 0.005-0.007 spa everyhour

from my part you can get 1 spa every hour

we are not the ones who load the faucet, we just run it

it's been updated btw http://coinok.pw/faucet/spa/

  it paid me out .0059


And that is... let me make that into fiat... wait, an insult?
3352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 07, 2014, 04:01:10 PM
we're updating the spaincoin faucet to the latest github version... any sign of appreciation would be nice.
thanks!
SeD2iHgTPykMCBjzcbjVgNDxDh9p6g2a3j

Really? Let me see, so you can get 0.000000000000016 SPA every hour? Really, really?

You cannot be serious!
3353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 06, 2014, 11:35:39 PM
It could and should have worked if only instead of just greed behind it was some work and vision.
I'll keep working as usual.

That is, precisely, the problem.
The "as usual" part.

Lol, your posts are very entertaining, helps pass the time.  One wonders what it is you get from the constant negativity you post. 

I have been wondering -well, not really...-, what do YOU get from the constant inanity of yours.

Which definitely don't even contribute to entertainment.

I must be missing something...
3354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 06, 2014, 10:34:13 PM
It could and should have worked if only instead of just greed behind it was some work and vision.
I'll keep working as usual.

That is, precisely, the problem.
The "as usual" part.
3355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS, CRYPTSY! -- UPDATE WALLETS!! on: April 06, 2014, 06:56:47 PM
And again I ask you to not post here anymore. I see you more and more get pleasure, putting salt in our wounds!

I advice to everyone just ignore this user clicking on "ignore" under his avatar.

Thanks! I am very emotional at the moment!

No reply to his posts anymore! Clicking ignore and shutting down PC!

Sorry brightlight (not really too bright, are you?) but your "emotionality" -and utter greed- don't make this any more serious or significant. And your greedy wishful thinking adds nothing to the equation: One of his posts is 100 times more informative, and therefore valuable, than one thousand of your very, very, very stupid whinning rants.

Truth is there's nothing, absolutely nothing, behind this coin. Just like if tomorrow you go to coingen.com and launch flamencocoin, jotacoin o castanuelascoin. I have to admit that using the name of Spain gave it initially quite a bit more gravitas but it was immediately apparent that there was absolutely nothing behind it. There's still nothing and that's why the value of the coin will be -very soon- nothing. Pity. It could and should have worked if only instead of just greed behind it was some work and vision.
3356  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: [ANN][SPA] Spaincoin El dinero del Pueblo para el Pueblo on: April 04, 2014, 11:11:32 AM
Me parece muy bien lo que estais haciendo pues la identificacion para evitar abusos es un problema evidentemente. La certificacion personal esta parece un proceso muy engorroso pero, al m ismo tiempo, parece que es eficaz, por un lado y no lo suficientemente engorroso como para prevenir es que muchas personas lo utilicen. Aun asi, mucha gente mayor, no lo utilizara y se quedara sin monedas, evidentemente. Tal vez podrias habilitar otros sistemas tambien, como el ya mencionado Censo Electoral. U otros que pudieran resultar mas accesibles a un considerable segmento de la poblacion espanola.

Sigo diciendo que el problema mas grave que yo veo no es el airdrop sino el drop del valor de la moneda que se debe, en mi opinion, a que la percepcion es en general muy mal pero, sobre todo a que, en la practica, carece de valor de transaccion real y ni siquiera funciona, porque no habeis conseguido ninguna publicidad, a nivel de comunidad crypto en Espana. Vamos que os seguimos, como mucho, unas 200-300 personas. Los mineros han abandonado por completo porque obviamente no hay beneficio... y la gente "normal" no tiene ni puta idea de lo que estais haciendo o pretendiendo lograr. La moneda solita no va a "volar" por mucho airdrop. Y 50 posibles euros -que seran muchos menos en cuanto la gente los pueda cambiar por fiat- no va a hacer que los espanoles vayan a un internet cafe a abrirse cuenta, descargarse wallets, abrirse cuenta en cryptsy etc. Tiene que haber "buzz". Y no hay ninguno a ningun nivel.

Por otro lado, no entiendo el objetive de no dar la cara. Tu, el developer, no solo deberias estar haciendo entrevistas seis horas al dia en todo tipo de medios sino que tu identidad, fotos, etc deberia ser no ya conocida, sino divulgada lo mas posible. O que crees que no se va a saber quien eres si esto tiene algun tipo de exito? Si te llevas algun dinero, no va a ser sin pagar impuestos y dando la cara, te lo aseguro. Entonces, cual es el motivo para permanecer en el anonimato? No tiene ningun sentido. No estas haciendo nada "malo" y, si tiene alguna continuacion, mas pronto que tarde tienes que dar la cara ante las diferentes instituciones. Por ley. Imagina si, ademas, te embolsas una pasta, que crees que Haciendo no te va a seguir los pasos? Yo te considero mucho mas inteligente que todo eso...

En fin, tu objetivo deberia ser potenciar el valor de esta moneda porque de ese valor depende su subsistencia. Tratar de convencer en foros que nadie lee a doscientas personas para que "ayuden", por la cara, no va a lograr ningun resultado positivo obviamente. El seguir manteniendo tu anonimato, pues que esperas, que no escame a la mayoria?
3357  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: [ANN][SPA] Spaincoin El dinero del Pueblo para el Pueblo on: April 03, 2014, 05:29:24 PM

Se repartirán más de 100 si el valor es demasiado bajo.

Oye yo no entiendo muy bien, porque aun no lo habeis publicado definitivamente, como se va a hacer la identificacion para el reparto. Habemos muchos espanoles que no tenemos el mdni digital ese y, en cualquier ncaso, aunque seamos muy pocos, somos espanoles como los demas y por tantop deberiamos tener acceso a lo que quiera que sea que vas a dar. DNI antiguo, deberia valer (sencillamente el numero) y si no el del pasaporte (que en mi caso es diferente) o el de cualquier otra forma oficial de autentificacion.

Insisto de todos modos en que, para que esto tenga exito, necesitais mas -mucha mas- promocion directa en medios (habeis contactado alguna television?, radaio, periodicos?) y, aun mas importante, que algun establecimiento de cuanta mayor envergadura mejor, se adhiera al proyecto. La forma de hyacerlo, logicamente, es a traves de Bitpay u otros que le den al comerciante la pasta equivalente en euros, garantizada, en el momento de la compra. No hay otra.
Y, por supuesto, evitar a toda costa el dumping en masa de las monedas (y me refiero a las que minais vosotros y otros, no a las de la gente que es logico que las vendan inmediatamente si valen algo.

Espero que hayais aprendido la leccion del lanzamiento en el que se catapulto la moneda -lo que quiere decir que habia mucho interes aun cuando muy pocos sabian de su existencia- simplemente para destrozarla con el dumping que, naturalmente, hace que los excepticos la consideren el clasico timo para que tu te enriquezcas. Ponte en el lugar de cualquier individuo con sentido comun, vale?

Gracias y espero respuesta al tema de la identificacion pues seria bueno tenerlo anticipado y no tener que andar jodiendo despues corriendo a obtener, si hacen fanta, documentos oficiales en consulados y leches. Gracias.
3358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS added, now traded on CRYPTSY! on: April 01, 2014, 05:48:53 PM

More coins will be given away if 100SPA is too little. Something like the equivalent to 20-50 EUR.

Glad to know that my suggestion was taken.

It is one small step in the right direction indeed.

Now, for another suggestion: Have you even contacted any real merchants, such as El Corte Ingles? I mean they could be receptive, but if no one contacts them with some strategic plan, how would they even consider it? Without merchants accepting it, you have nothing, no matter how many badges or stickers you provide... And for merchants to join in you need to find someone that will anchor (sell into fiat) transactions instantly. BitPay, comes to mind. Have you contacted them?

By the way, a few coins in exchange for these suggestions would be nice...
3359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS added, now traded on CRYPTSY! on: April 01, 2014, 07:52:07 AM
If this doesn't get considerably better, the upcoming airdrop is going to be the burial of the coin... unless the amounts to be distributed are incremented substantially. Giving 3 euros to every Spaniard that claims them, with the caveat of having to produce personal information and no use for them other than sell them in an exchange for which they need to register and pay commission? I'd say 98% of Spaniards will no "No, gracias".

Will 1,000 (30 euros) do better? Just an idea... if the airdrop is not a huge success, the coin will hit the dirt under Pesetacoin.
3360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPA] SpainCoin: freedom for Spain -MERCHANTS added, now traded on CRYPTSY! on: March 31, 2014, 11:42:15 AM
I'm trying to buy a few on Cryptsy but no one selling under 0.00010...
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