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3341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Cash out or HODL - Bitcoin? on: December 23, 2020, 10:34:32 PM
holding bitcoin is a lot more profitable than cash, bitcoin has a good long term every 4 years once the supply of bitcoin mined will decrease and that makes its value even higher, bitcoin always gets a new ATH in 3 years
Yes, if you are holding bitcoin since the start of this year or when the bitcoin fluctuates last Q1 and Q2 this year a lot of gain will be in your wallet now, but still if you don't have any deeper need in money you may not cash out now maybe spend the half and save the half of it so that you will still have bitcoin in your wallet because a lot of news spread today and I think it will be the reason for more pump today and for the next days we can say that bitcoin will probably go to 30k.

Good suggestion but we should not forget to think in sideways since we need to look after the past events and decide whether it's good since January is a sort of questionable matter right now, but if the price retain until next year and more constant price changes will happen then it's good for us to hold for another 1 year to gain more.
3342  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ Bet online ᐉ BTC Betting ᐉ Online betting odds on: December 23, 2020, 01:36:17 PM
Can you explain to us how much you have helped people in this forum so far? You mean helped people steal money like you do every time? What I have been able to read so far is that you only say that people get their deposit back and nothing else.

Hi Cacingkemi,

please take a look at this post:

Just wanted to sum up a few cases that have recently been resolved positively:

1) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5284893.0 account restored, ~1 eth on balance
2) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277227.0 account closed, ~20 eth of deposits returned
3) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278185.0 account restored, ~10 mbtc on balance
4) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1775566.0 account restored, ~4.3 btc on balance <- old case

there are quite a lot of cases with deposits returnal as well.
We are trying to resolve cases positively, but for people who prefer unfair gambling the best we can do is return money that they deposited to our site - excluding unfairly received wins.

Sincerely,
1xBit team

4 proof is quite not convincing since the damage created from the site from the past is huge so far but hopefully all claimants and others issues towards their balances and others will be solves by yours and once many people will give a vouch about their case was solve then maybe you can get your foot back here, but for now just do your best to eliminate the negative mindset of people when they heard about the site name 1xbit.
3343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you rely on the odds when placing bets? on: December 23, 2020, 10:05:03 AM
I think that people must bet on what they think will happen whatever the ods...ods is a fully trapped thing and bookmakers are not really innocent  Grin
They know well how to trapp bettors and make them choise the wrong desision

Sometimes I don't really care what the odds is since there are sudden instance that the game phase changed and sudden miracle happens, that's why I always look up the rooster on each team if they are available to play when I am betting since lacking of 1 good contributor could really change a lot in the game if we talk about in sportsbook betting scene.
3344  Other / Meta / Newbie copy pasting each other's post on: December 23, 2020, 05:38:15 AM
I wonder if this one is a series of post boosting or anything?


And what puzzled me is this when you quote their post this one shows. Hopefully this is not malware or anything can possibly harm us here.

Let me explain. I dont just mean in terms of covid, but we can start there. You know the statistic by now: America has 5% of the worlds population, but 20% of its covid deaths. What that means in practice, though, is that if youre American, your chances of getting sick and possibly even dying from an illness which has been handled much better in other parts of the world, is vastly higher. How much higher? Well, for example, New Zealand has conquered Covid not once, but twice. Across even Africa and Asia, Covid has been largely kept in check. Your chances of succumbing to Covid as an American are anywhere from 5 towell, technically, anywhere from 5 to infinity times higher than most of the rest of the world right now.

Edit: this one will show when you quote the message to be exact.


3345  Local / Pilipinas / Re: MAY KINALAMAN BA ANG CHINA SA PAGBAGSAK NG DAPAT SANA AY BULLRUN TREND? on: December 22, 2020, 11:58:16 PM
Hindi naman ata, kasi sobrang laki ang hawak nilang assets pero wala naman itong naging masyadong epekto sa market ng Bitcoin kasi hindi pa naman ito naibebenta. Satingin ko ay nag panic lang ang mga tao kaya ganyan. Buti nga ay nasa $18,000 price range na ulit tayo at panigurado maganda-ganda pa ang takbo ng cryptocurrency sa susunod na buwan.
Napatunayan na ng Bitcoin ngayon na walang kinalaman ang China sa pagbagsak ng presyo ni Bitcoin dahil as of this post, more than $23k na ang inakyat nito mula nung bahagyang bumagsak.

Nagkaroon lng ng panandaliang takot sa side ng mga traders pero wala talaga syang long term effects sa Bitcoin at maraming beses na itong napatunayan. At ang tinitingnan nalang sa ngayon e kung hanggang saan aabot si bitcoin at kung magtutuloy ba ang progresso nito sa mga susunod pang mga taon.

Sa ngayon good na good ang tumatakbo ng Bitcoin at tiyak Hindi Ito mapapabagsak ng ilang chinese fuds ngayon.
3346  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will increase 20X in the next 5 years on: December 22, 2020, 08:34:19 PM
Dan Tapiero, co-founder of Gold Bullion International believes that it’s only a matter of time before Bitcoin
’s price surges into the six-figure threshold.

“In the next five years, I can see gold at $4,000, so that’s double. But if gold is at $4,000, Bitcoin is probably somewhere between $300,000 and $500,000, so that’s a 20, 30x.”

https://cointelegraph.com/news/no-debate-that-bitcoin-will-increase-20x-says-gold-industry-insider

Personally I try to not listen to people like that making those kind of predictions since it gives the wrong idea to a great deal of people, I think the price is going to be many times higher during the next 5 to 10 years but whatever the price it does not matter to me because I am going to be here invested in it, while many newbies look at numbers like that and invest in bitcoin and then as soon as the price begins to go down they think bitcoin is a scam and that it is never going to reach those levels.


If you are investor you should not listen to them since this might cause you a lot of money if you get caught by the dump and get fucked up your entire capital that's why always listen to your personal thoughts and do an extra research before believing such words given. Although many newbies joining now but what good thing I see in my local groups in Facebook and others is they have mentors and they are now doing some short trades in guidance with those person who experience the past ATH upset before.
3347  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual Sports | ⚽🏆 on: December 22, 2020, 11:56:57 AM
Yes, they are probably working on several things at the moment. They will therefore have to consider what has the most priority. I think a mobile version is important anyway.
You can ask yourself whether a bonus is very important. We also don't know how many requests have been made to the site from people who would like to receive a bonus.

Well for me I think bonus is much important rather than mobile version not just for my own benefit but also to attract more players on the adkinsbet although mobile version is important too since not all the players always have an access to phones and it's much easier to place bet using phone in my opinion.

Many people are mostly using a mobile phone so most of them prefer to use the mobile version since its quite handy which you can use to bet everywhere you go compare to the web version where you need to stick your butt on your PC before you can place your bet to your favorite sports and team. Also other sportsbook adopt the app version and they will be outdated if they choose not to have that.
3348  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should We Avoid US Based Exchanges Now? on: December 22, 2020, 10:33:12 AM
In terms of centralized exchanges do you think it would be better to use ones not based in the US now?
I'm thinking of avoiding Kraken and Coinbase completely now and just using ones not based in US such as Binance, Kucoin, Huobi.

It basically depends on your own preference and convenience.

If you think it's a pain in the ass dealing with US-based exchanges then you can test the waters on other exchanges to meet your expectations. However, always expect that centralized exchanges, even non-US based are bound to be regulated.

What matters to me is good service. I'm fine complying with KYC with consideration*.

It's hard to deal with something we don't know and we don't like but if he cannot handle it since truly dislike the idea that providing his own identity on US base exchange then he should avoid it but for me I will go on that way since what matter to me is the security and I see those US base exchange are kinda safe for now compare to the other exchange who run quite good today.
3349  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥 Bitpr0.com | The Ultimate Crypto Directory on: December 22, 2020, 09:34:20 AM
Maybe the user saw this post below. where bitpr0 admin told about a feature where people can play some PVP game and can chat there. But I am not sure the feature is already live or being developing. But I have seen there faucet is on live. Smiley

We are currently preparing a update for our own faucet + chat & pvp game, stay tuned we'll let you know as soon as we got more infos to that.

In the meanwhile we added a few sites, such as blackjack.fun and much more.
Check the gambling tab at Bitpr0.com/gambling  Shocked
probably that's what the user is referring to, well that's really a great feature a pvp matches on their website well I think we could use their faucet and play with that pvp and if we get lucky we might get a good profit out of it.

In other point it might get abused by those people who always use this tactic but if this one will be controlled then its really good if we go on that way but I think it will regulated by the owner and they will require the players to deposit for a better gameplay rather than they let them go to faucet and play since it will never be profitable to them.

We should wait for more updates here.
3350  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Adkinsbet SCAM SCAM 30mBTC on: December 21, 2020, 09:56:45 PM
Multi account is truly forbidden in almost all of the casino but in any case that their claims is wrong and you didn't have any alt account on their site then the best solution is to talk their support and ask politely with your current issues.

But if you truly do it on purpose then you should not react about that since that will mostly happen when a casino/casino sportsbook do when they found that theirs a illegal activity happening in their site.
3351  Economy / Economics / Re: So where are all the normie Economists, Bankers, who said it was over in 2018? on: December 21, 2020, 01:41:33 PM
So where are all the normie Economists, Bankers, who said it was over in 2018? Silence "Chirp Chirp" Crickets. 



Do you think *they* get it yet, or is it rinse repeat 100k~200K, next cycle and at $1 M a coin they will "get" it then.




It's a reverse psychology, they spread that fud so that they can accumulate more cheap bitcoins. They are doing that ever since before and now some of what they called economist and other big businessmen are now spreading some hype that they will buy more bitcoins so that they can create demand as well more panic buying will happen. 

And even by this we need to be careful since maybe we can experience a quick dump but hopefully we will get the same path last 2018 and the price will remain at this figures even 2021 pass by.
3352  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2021 Bitcoin Cycle(Bullrun) vs 2017 Bitcoin Cycle(Bullrun) on: December 21, 2020, 09:58:53 AM

IMO this can't be compared. This is what I called being result-oriented only.

The whole crypto industry is more stable now. In 2017, if you see a total daily volume of 20B you would be - wow, that's enormous! Now when I see 100B daily volume - meh, what a weak day...

Yeah, well. Many models actually make similar predictions. It's clear that the future doesn't have to repeat the past and even clearer that it's not going to repeat it exactly but most of the predictions I see for 2021 are somehow similar to what happened in 2017, so I think it can be compared. And many predictions do.

We really can compared it due to some certain situation occur but actually the result might different right now since compare before we are bombarded by ICO's and fake hypes thats why we see a short bull run happened at that year. But things are different since big institutions are entering the scene so I think its a strong hold for bitcoin to have a stable growth in year 2021.
3353  Economy / Speculation / Re: I bought BTC at 23.5K$ on: December 20, 2020, 12:01:40 PM
By seeing the increasing in price rapidly I invested in bitcoin. Was it the perfect time? What is the prediction of price for now with reason?!

If you don't know on what you are doing and unsure about how things go with bitcoins on next following days better to sell your acquired asset when bitcoin reach for more than the value what you bought and secure your profit since if you listen to the hype and wait for long term might you will be left behind and became a one of the bag holders who wish for another series of pump came, to avoid this to happen then do a day trades for a while.
3354  Local / Pilipinas / Re: DOJ laban sa mga pekeng crypto traders? on: December 20, 2020, 10:53:10 AM
Isa rin ito sa pinagtataka ko. Bakit karamihan sa mga ganitong tao na isinasapubliko yung mga pagmumukha nila e nananatiling malaya sa prosekusyon kapag marami nang nagreklamo na hindi naibabalik yung pera nila? Mahina rin kasi ang pangil ng batas natin sa mga ganitong uri ng panloloko, at kung minsan yung mga alagad pa ng batas ang nagiging kasabwat ng mga taong ito para makapanloko ng kapwa nila tao.

Ayokong maging overly negative sa gobyerno natin, pero one possible reason is simply dahil wala siguro silang masyadong incentive na hanapin ang mga taong to.

Pero to be fair, recently mas nagiging active sila sa pag warn sa mga tao tungkol sa mga scams na to. Ang di lang natin alam is may ginagawa kaya sila para hanapin ang mga taong to o hanggang salita lang sila?

Need kasi na magkaroon ng sapat na ebidensiya para manghuli ng mga malalaking isda.  Siguro kung mga tindera lang sa kanto yan magatagal na yang nadampot na napakulong kahit walang due process.  Ang kalaban nila ay mga may pera na pwedeng maghire ng mga magagaling na abogado para baligtarin ang sitwasyon.  Kaya hanggang warning na lang muna sila habang mabagal na nililikom ang mga ebidensiya.
Tumpak talaga. Mahirap kalabanin ang may pera kasi kayang baliktarin yung kaso kaya need talaga ng otoridad ng mabigat na ebidensya katulad nung mga nangyari sa drug related cases. Kaya hindi agad kumikilos ang gobyerno dahil una may korapsyon pangalawa takot baka pag-iinitan ng mga nakabangga pangatlo tamad hayaan na muna nila hanggat walang bulabog walang imbestigasyon. Pero hindi naman nagkulang ang gobyerno natin sa pagpaalala about possible scams. Daming ponzi sa pinas dun lang naging mainit sa publiko yung nangyari sa KAPA, RIGEN at iba pang mga too good to be true na investments.

Mahirap kalabanin kapag walang pangil ang batas at madaling suholan ang mga kinauukulan pero pag lahat naman gumalaw eh tiyak mahuhuli ang mga yan at sa ngayon yung mga nagpapatakbo ng KAPA,RIGEN at ung iba eh nagtatago na. Siguro sa ngayon nakakapagtago pa sila dahil meron pa silang nakulimbat na pera pero hindi ito habang buhay nila na magagawa dahil tiyak mauubos lang din ung mga nakuha nila sa mga investor nila. May panahon din na mahuhuli ang mga yun.
3355  Economy / Gambling / Re: CRYPTOLOTTOSTORE.COM - Global lotto betting for cryptocurrency on: December 18, 2020, 08:28:32 PM
It is good that the preparations you made have a result.  I hope that you will continue to get the attention of the gamblers here again and I wish you success.  And since you already have slot games, maybe you already have a number of promotion plans for it just like races and competitions. Because that is really one of the things that draws players to try a casino.  The above is also true that sigcamp is a big help to see and many will know your new offering, especially if you combine it with promotions.

For sure they do a lot of preparation on their comeback and its impressive that they brought the casino option to there site but just wondering on how they can bring up the noise and traffic since there are so many existing reputable casino which have currently running an impressive promotion and competition here. Maybe sig campaign will really help for introduction but maybe its good to focus for certain contest which can boost the interest of the gamblers.
Well the casinos/gambling industry is always open to new developments just like the cryptocurrency market, if they products and game's appealing to players
Their will easily pull the traffic and peak up in the crypto casino business.

Now they open up this and make the suggestions of the users came true, but still releasing their casino to public is not enough since they need to market it remember there are so many casino who runs a good competition and if the dev will not do anything for sure they will be buried by the other. But I think for sure the dev have better plan to this and already prepared about that who knows they will conduct a contest,giveaways, sig campaigns and other to boost their awareness as well the traffic.
3356  Economy / Gambling / Re: CRYPTOLOTTOSTORE.COM - Global lotto betting for cryptocurrency on: December 18, 2020, 09:32:58 AM
It is good that the preparations you made have a result.  I hope that you will continue to get the attention of the gamblers here again and I wish you success.  And since you already have slot games, maybe you already have a number of promotion plans for it just like races and competitions. Because that is really one of the things that draws players to try a casino.  The above is also true that sigcamp is a big help to see and many will know your new offering, especially if you combine it with promotions.

For sure they do a lot of preparation on their comeback and its impressive that they brought the casino option to there site but just wondering on how they can bring up the noise and traffic since there are so many existing reputable casino which have currently running an impressive promotion and competition here. Maybe sig campaign will really help for introduction but maybe its good to focus for certain contest which can boost the interest of the gamblers.
3357  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Pagpasok ng Tao Sa Crypto on: December 18, 2020, 07:57:03 AM

Ngayong nakamit at nahigitan na naman ang naitakdang value noong 2017, maaasahan kaya natin ang pagsulpot ng mga taong maaakit sa Bitcoin? Dadami kaya ang magiging investors ngayong malalaman nila na isang malaking asset ang BTC...

(Aasahan na din ba natin ang pagtaas ng bilang ng mga scammers ngayon kung magkakaroon ng posibilidad sa pagdami ng mga papasok sa crypto?)

Madaming papasok? For sure Oo, ganito kasi yan magsisilabasan ang mga hype na kesyo kumita ng malaking halaga si trader at nag post ito sa kani-kanilang social media account at yung mga nakakakita is mahihikayat na sumali at kumita din, lalo na't makita nila ang presyo ng bitcoin na sobrang laki kaya marami talaga ang mahuhumaling ngayon.

At tsaka for scammers matic na dadami talaga ito kahit hindi mag bullrun lalo na ngayong season na ito dahil tiyak maghahanap ng paraan ang mga scammers na kumita paramay pera sila sa holiday season ngayon.
3358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why christmas? on: December 17, 2020, 02:21:24 PM
The first big spike was close to xmas/new year and the recent spike was the same.  Discuss?  It certainly isn't people doing their xmas shopping with bitcoin.  Is it publicity related?  Is it silk road (or equivalent) related?  Is it Chinese money giving customs related? 

I think its a mere coincidence of timing.  Bitcoin isn't seasonal nor are these markets, so rationally you have to just think its a coincidence.  It is strikingly odd though that this is a great time of year to buy(sell  Wink) crypto.
You are wrong Bitcoin is seasonal, so what happens now is never a mere coincidence and this is what always happens to the Bitcoin market during the Christmas season of the year Bitcoin had it halving. Meanwhile, a market correction will also happen a few hours before Christmas so buying now if you're not a day trade is not advisable.

I agree , also exactly like we saw in 2017 summer were bitcoin dump massively , lot of whales sold their earning to enjoy a happy holiday .
the rest of fish ( newbie traders ) got stuck with the market since then and that can happen again this year ..

That's why we need to be prepared for the upcoming possibilities so that we will not get stuck again the same on what happen on year 2017-2018. And we need to be vigilant even though the market doing good since we still need to rely on history and but hoping that the same scenario will not come and this year bitcoin will prosper to gather more huge pump since I believe if bitcoin can maintain it's current price until next year provably we will get another big adoption.
3359  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Becareful at this BITCOIN price point on: December 17, 2020, 12:02:50 PM
BTC Bitcoin price is now in ATH( ALL TIME HIGH). Now its price is super hype. Lots of people now should be want to trade or buy but i recommend everyone to be careful at this point. Now this is the point where anything can be possible it should be up or it should be down. That is why this is a very risky point if you are a trader you have to think very much before take a step. And i don't recommended any one to buy bitcoin at this point now its a time to price down. Just wait sometime to price down then but this is not the right time to buy. And don't buy when the price is already high. And traders try to trade in a stable point because its a too much risky point. I hope everyone understant it. If you think i am wrong then suggest me to the right point or if you thought i am right then i want all of Your appreciate. Thank you everyone

That's why we need to watch the chart so that we will get hint on what will be the next move of bitcoin so that we can possibly earn or minimize the damage if something huge dump will came in future, We should remember that we shouldn't buy on the hype but if we want to earn then its a perfect opportunity to us to do a short trades since bitcoin is quietly gives us a good chances to earn since the price of it crazily pumping up right now.
3360  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com $250K Giveaway 🎲 Instant BTC & ETH withdraws | Live games & Slots! on: December 17, 2020, 09:25:34 AM
Yes, they use the same timezone here in the forum.  In the past few days of playing here just to receive free spins, I have never experienced losing it because I used it all before it expired.  Because after I wager 50 coins, I claim it and use it immediately.  Now I stopped playing here because I ran out of coins, I only want tickets for now so far.  Maybe when their representative reads this issue here, they will help you. I have not been able to give feedback on their support because I have not been able to contact them. I haven't had a problem here yet. I hope they give you a clear answer soon.
I think you just need to keep playing the game again and make a deposit to enjoy the game at this gambling place and try to find problems that might occur, because until now I think the duelbits has a good response and there are no long-standing problems.

You cannot enjoy the game if you are worried for something's that's why it's good to have a clarification on some certain queries running on his mind and I can't blame him if he have doubts since for sure we will do the same if we are not comfortable but since he's unto that maybe the best thing to do is to contact their support since they are the right person to contact whenever we have questions and clarification.
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