Will be reopening the shop soon! The chip is crazy and amazing. Anyone interested in H-cards with 16nm chips?
I think people are more interested in all the non chip parts of this, power consumption can only sell people so far. - What will the estimated MOQ be? $1k, $10k, $100k etc.
- Please don't announce preorders...
- How much engagement we will get with the community which isn't done through a PR agency?
- How will these be sold? Please don't say system integrators and please don't say by resellers, both of which have been a detriment to end users.
- Are they going to be priced at remotely viable levels? I'm not one to comment on profitability usually but lets at least get in the ballpark.
- When is SoonTM, cutting through the PR when are we actually expecting products?
- Who is going to support sales and support? Bitmain currently has droves of people doing just that and I can't see the Head of Product Development sticking about to answer 200 emails a day.
- Will you finally release or showcase previous designs (BF3500 etc) outside of NDA? It adds credibility and trust to consumers knowing what previous machines looked like. The last thing we saw were H-boards, which while sufficient at the time are a pretty outdated design.
I feel this - like many other previous announcements - are the diamond ring at the proposal. I just hope we don't get mistreated in the rest of the marriage. We agree again time will tell how good it is to buy them. |
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I bought the APW3-12-1600 PSU and the antminer S7.
I connected the PSU to the wall and that powered on just fine. The fan came on and it seems to be ok.
I then connected all 9 connections to the 3 hashing boards, as stated in the instructions which came with the S7, but nothing happened on the miner. No lights or no fans turning.
I tried connecting the last connection to the control board and that didn't do anything either.
I tried powering off the PSU with everything left connected and plugged back in and nothing.
So I started to look for a power switch on the unit and I looked at some pictures online and realized the button which I believe is the power button was pushed all the way in and stuck behind the metal plate which is right next to the QC sticker and Ethernet port.
I used a small nail to pry the button out from behind the metal, and that worked, and if I push the button I can feel a click, but the unit still doesn't turn on. I tried the same with the control board PCI-e connector disconnected and plugged it in after and still nothing.
I held down the button I freed up for over 10 seconds and nothing.
Anyone have any hints / tips for me?
if the psu was running and you hot plugged live pcie cables into the boards and into the controller there is a huge chance you fried the gear. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER PLUG IN HOT PCIE JACKS TO PCIE PLUGSor maybe you have 120 volts and the psu does not work correctly. If you have 240 volts turn off everything unplug the psu from the wall. i also mean turn the power off via the correct circuit breaker . but leave all ten pcie cables connected wait two hours pray to any one you want. then plug the psu into the dead wall socket. so all pcie cables are plugges in. your ethernet cord is plugged in the psu power cord is plugged into the wall. go to your circuit panel and flip the breaker on wait a few minutes and see if it works good luck! |
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"shortly" is quite relative....a few months ? I highly doubt bitfury will do any "gifts" to the general public - that would conflict with their ongoing operation. they would do like bitmain, and sell at a much higher price equipment that they have been using for a while.
The one thing I gathered is they are most likely the cause of the super high block count days. Plus they most likely have 175 to 225 ph farm doing it. .055 watts a gh .07 watts a gh .1 watts a gh .15 watts a gh take your pick one of them is true. My guess .1 or .15 not .055 or .07 at the plug so to speak. a 40 MW farm maybe 32MW usable but 32MegaWatts at .15 = 213 ph and that is a lot of hash. They have been able to show they gear can run 24/7/365 So far in DEC the temps in Tbilisi, Georgia http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/UGTB/2015/12/17/MonthlyCalendar.html?req_city=Tbilisi&req_statename=Georgia&reqdb.zip=00000&reqdb.magic=1&reqdb.wmo=37545#calendarDate Temps in F BLKS dec 1 41-48 170 dec 2 37-51 158 dec 3 39-44 141 dec 4 35-42 154 dec 5 33-46 173 dec 6 28-48 157 dec 7 37-46 149 dec 8 41-51 171 dec 9 39-50 174 dec 10 37-41 212 dec 11 30-42 157 dec 12 26-44 169 dec 13 28-50 137 dec 14 26-42 197 dec 15 30-50 185 dec 16 33-46 SO if temps drop they may be able to do better. As I think they were counting on colder weather to help plant get going. |
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ALSO: This thread should be in the Mining Speculation forum since it's all just rumour at this point.
They say on their website they are selling. I would think that is not a rumor a lie maybe but not a rumor. well on their face book page Valery Vavilov, CEO of BitFury, said: “We are very excited to launch mass production of our super 16nm ASIC Chip. The final results of our hard work have fully met our expectations. We understand that it will be nearly impossible for any older technology to compete with the performance of our new 16nm technology. As a responsible player in the Bitcoin community, we will be working with integration partners and resellers to make our unique technology widely available ensuring that the network remains decentralized and we move into the exahash era together. BitFury warmly welcomes all companies interested in joining our integration and reseller program.” Jim Lai, President of GUC, said: “We have worked closely with BitFury’s experienced IC designers and we are glad to assist BitFury to achieve this outstanding result. GUC is proud that the BitFury-GUC partnership resulted in the first 16nm full custom tape-out for both parties.” Maybe rumour wasn't the right word, but when Bitfury had their first 55nm pics and some information was posted here. I think once we see some data or pics of a chip/prototype it will be more than words. I agree it is spec until they really sell some shit to us. I found a quote on the size of their new center let me look for it. from this link: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20151216005453/en/BitFury-Announces-Mass-Production-Fastest-Effective-16nm"Staying true to our commitment to minimize our carbon footprint, BitFury continuously works to increase the energy efficiency of our data centers. The company already relies on renewable energy sources to power our data centers with less than half of the energy overhead of the leading Internet giants, and continuously seeks new ways to further reduce greenhouse gas emissions. An important step forward in this effort is BitFury’s deployment of its proprietary immersion cooling technology in its recently opened Tbilisi, Georgia, data center which supports 40 megawatts.*All figures mentioned above were measured with real silicon samples. Mileage for production devices may vary. Thanks to the physics of silicon devices, chips may demonstrate exceptionally low power consumption, or exceptionally high compute power, but not both at the same time." The bold is me. I am sure the huge 188 195 197 and 215 block days this adjusment are them running the plant. As to it using a .07 watt per gh chip I do not think so. I do think they may be doing .15 with it. I estimate the monster big block days were done with 180 to 220 ph so a 40 mw plant running at 32 mw is a safe guess. .15 x 180 ph = 27 mw .15 x 200 ph = 30 mw .15 x 220 ph = 33 mw So my guess is it runs at .15 mw maybe a little better. Still a lot better then .26 to .31 the s-7 and avalon 6's do. |
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ALSO: This thread should be in the Mining Speculation forum since it's all just rumour at this point.
They say on their website they are selling. I would think that is not a rumor a lie maybe but not a rumor. well on their face book page https://www.facebook.com/BitFuryI found this link http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20151216005453/en/BitFury-Announces-Mass-Production-Fastest-Effective-16nmValery Vavilov, CEO of BitFury, said: “We are very excited to launch mass production of our super 16nm ASIC Chip. The final results of our hard work have fully met our expectations. We understand that it will be nearly impossible for any older technology to compete with the performance of our new 16nm technology. As a responsible player in the Bitcoin community, we will be working with integration partners and resellers to make our unique technology widely available ensuring that the network remains decentralized and we move into the exahash era together. BitFury warmly welcomes all companies interested in joining our integration and reseller program.” Jim Lai, President of GUC, said: “We have worked closely with BitFury’s experienced IC designers and we are glad to assist BitFury to achieve this outstanding result. GUC is proud that the BitFury-GUC partnership resulted in the first 16nm full custom tape-out for both parties.” part of the facebook page is below  |
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Thats a lot of cord length for 12v. Be interested to see the voltage drop from PSU to miner. Hope your running at least 16 gauge.
I only mentioned that I went with the white 15 gauge in one post . The thread is long you may have misssed that post. Also this thread was edited by staff as I did multiple repeat posts to show the work in a way that was more clear. Some one must have complained that I consecutive posted. I told staff we could edit it and Imay have cut out the 15 awg wire is the three foot wire. Here is the deal on the white cables in the photo they are 15 awg and 3 ft long, these are outstanding pcie cables for 4 bucks each. if you are mining with the avalon six they are a better choice. since the avalon 6 wants only 4 cables. if you are using the antminer s-7 the yellow cables are good they are 3 usd each and they are good quality. they work better then you need if you plug 10 into the s-7 voltage drop is not an issue. and I am now testing 2880 watt psu I have found a very good sound solution it truly lowers the noise of the stock 2880 watt fans. and it runs very well with the s-7 I own. I have a suspicion that I will squeeze out more hash running 2 avalon sixes with the 4000 watt dual psu set to 12.5 volts and the 2880 watt psu running my lone s-7. My sound solution for it works well and is pretty cheap. I will post it once I fully get it done. Here is a screen shot of the s-7 running alone from the 2880watt psu I am doing freq 625 next to perfect and around 5100gh! I will post meter readings for sound. but 57 db and 59 db in my garage and 54 db at the entrance to the garage and 42 db at the den home theater couch that is with 1 s-7 2 avalon sixes 1 4000 watt dual psu and 1 2880 watt psu. 17 amps x 240 volts = 4080 watts and just about 12900gh  |
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See we can agree on things. I agree with the bolded statement above! I also read the will open sales to public since their chip is too good and no one can compete against it. So to level the playing field they will sell to other companies and the public. This should be a lot of fun to watch unfold. |
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Yeah that one or the noctua...still I think the TwisterStorm has better stats and you may control manually the RPM Thanks for your time. I have the 3000 rpm noctua it is not that good on the s-5 |
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If the US pool goes down does the German pool keep running? I'm asking because I would use the German pool as a fail-over if it is independent of the USA node, but if they are all linked then there's no reason for me to set it up that way. That can't be it, the best share isn't enough to generate a block
That was my first thought, but I also believe it resets, no? Highest ever doesn't reset, and it's less than 1G. he hit three blocks https://blockchain.info/address/15X8ziBTCLEQCU2eUwWoQCYqJV7CoJSFoC |
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That can't be it, the best share isn't enough to generate a block
That was my first thought, but I also believe it resets, no? he may be on the de server |
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I am renting 50th from nicehash as a tester. on the german pool
order # S #865297
it seems to work
I am on the fence about NiceHash, 3 times I have rented 1P with them, the largest best share for 2 of them was 5B, the other was 14B. I have rented 50T a few times from miningrigrentals.com and have always had better best shares with lower hash. Could just be luck, but when you put out 5BTC for 1P for 24 hours you would expect a better share than 5B. I have hit 4 blocks with them since last december. I am close to correct luck. |
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A milion dollars. So I will make it that the million is after tax.
I would sell my home and buy a nicer one in the same area. So this would be 300k off the top of the million.
I WOULD build a second 60kwatt or maybe a 100 kwatt solar array. I have a forum member that is building a 60kWatt array.
I would buy 100 coins = 45 k
So 300 k for house upgrade
90 k for 200 coins
not sure what the solar setup will cost
some machines s-7's avalon 6's
some more psu's from finksy and j4bbrwock
110 k total for the solar setup with miners and psus
500 k total
This leaves me 500k in cash the wife gets that as we are partners n life. I am sure she will spend some on trips with me to:
Italy, Norway, Australia, Argentina maybe Cuba if the USA lets us.
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I see from the picture in the new dogie guide that the controller has connectors for 4 Hash Boards.  It could be that you can plug up two miners to one controller? Rich It is quite interesting. From his pictures we can see it using 2 of the 4. I don't think anyone has tried out doing it but looks like a possibility. I doubt we will know unless someone tries it. Most likely will be a Ehash customer that tries it if someone does. It does not have stickers showing if opened. BlockC has stickers over screws. I have 2 units but I will wait before I try that. |
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Well they say they will sell chips.
If they sell chips better gear will be available.
We are going to have a very interesting six months.
Also notice they said they launched a 40 mega watt farm.
This is those crazy high jumps to 190 - 210 blocks
Aww, let say they can manage 0.1 J/GH @ wall, so we will see with this 40 MW farm another 400 PH/s soon. We have been seeing 180 to 220 ph so maybe 40mw and .1 gh are not true. But the 180 to 220 ph jump on those 195 block days is real. There is a plus side to this as this jump may be the last super jump for a month or so. I think the s-7 is going to drop a lot in price. The other big question is what will they sell to the public, and how competitive will their prices be? I wanted to buy some S7, but I tend to agree their price is likely to go down even more early next year. I think I will wait that out. yeah mine what you got and hold at least ½ the coins. Note: I cleaned up thread and deleted posts meant for other thread. Today is almost over and blocks are at about 165 this would mean bitfury powered the immersion 40 MW mine off. I would if they are having an over heating issue. Someone needs to see how cold it is at the new mine in Tbilisi, Georgia http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/UGTB/2015/12/17/MonthlyCalendar.html?req_city=Tbilisi&req_statename=Georgia&reqdb.zip=00000&reqdb.magic=1&reqdb.wmo=37545#calendardec 1 41-48 170 dec 2 37-51 158 dec 3 39-44 141 dec 4 35-42 154 dec 5 33-46 173 dec 6 28-48 157 dec 7 37-46 149 dec 8 41-51 171 dec 9 39-50 174 dec 10 37-41 212 cold day best test? dec 11 30-42 157 dec 12 26-44 169 dec 13 28-50 137 hotter day backed off? dec 14 26-42 197 cold day good test? dec 15 30-50 185 does not quite match dec 16 33-46 I can't quite correlate temps with blocks worth a shot to keep looking at it. |
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Maybe. They have 6 months to make some money off of it before the halving. Halving is coming. That will be the most efficient miner out there. They will be making money when others are not. They stated their chip is so good that no one can compete against it so they will sell chips to keep the playing field level. I see trouble ahead. |
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IF you can get your hands on some S3 ++ id buy them  _ . notice i said S3 ++ not S3 +, i could have bought some over the summer but passed it up or saw it to late to buy at least two S3 ++, after, i noticed it said ++. now i can't get any in the US. I think a few made it stateside. But it was a very very few on S3 ++ your right on most not making it here to US was not offered on site to US. They were an interesting Miner but not sure that is worth trying to find one. Efficiency will be marginally better than an S3, but if you want string power then better to just go for the S5 with the better BM1384 ASIC, which I think the S3++ was possibly a trial for? Rich and if he gets a newer s-5 he can under volt for better efficiency you have a long thread on that. |
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@CK, can we use the german pool for our group buy or is it better to wait a time... is the german pool node stable?
I can't vouch for the stability of the German pool at this stage. The current solo pool VPS provider has been rock solid and I pay a premium for its performance and stability so I'd still consider the DE pool only in testing until it proves itself under more serious loads. So far it's only servicing about 5 shares per second to 24 workers whereas solo is servicing 250 shares per second to 1300 workers. I will run the German pool first choice and the American pool as roll over for a day. So far very good numbers.  |
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