Well they say they will sell chips.
If they sell chips better gear will be available.
We are going to have a very interesting six months.
Also notice they said they launched a 40 mega watt farm.
This is those crazy high jumps to 190 - 210 blocks
Aww, let say they can manage 0.1 J/GH @ wall, so we will see with this 40 MW farm another 400 PH/s soon. We have been seeing 180 to 220 ph so maybe 40mw and .1 gh are not true. But the 180 to 220 ph jump on those 195 block days is real. There is a plus side to this as this jump may be the last super jump for a month or so. I think the s-7 is going to drop a lot in price. |
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Well they say they will sell chips. If they sell chips better gear will be available. We are going to have a very interesting six months. Also notice they said they launched a 40 mega watt farm. This is those crazy high jumps to 190 - 210 blocks |
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Looks like the German pool is working for me in New Jersey I will switch back to USA pool in a bit  |
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I will use the german pool as a fail over
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If this pool doesn't at least hit one block every 14 days and each time difficulty is considerably increasing while the hashrate is stagnating... how are you ever going to get out of the variance trap?
You don't.
which is why we need increased hash rate. The pool needs to run at 150th or more at a steady average. |
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+ 9.0 = pusttiu
+10.0 = mavericklm
+10.1 = edonkey
+10.2 = needmoney
+11.8 = flikflak
+12.1 = zebedee
+12.2 = herzlos1985
+12.3 = philipma1957
+12.5 = Notlist3d
+12.7 = indiemax
+12.8 =radnom------new---can not win btc prize>>> All three must contact with proof of address for usb prize before 1200th block
+12.9 =Forumgeiq---new-- can not win btc prize>>>>" " " " " " " " " " " " " "
+13.0 = Valkir
+13.1 = cakir
+13.2 = Lauda
+13.3 = Tupsu
+14.2 = 64dimensions
+14.7 = Biodom
+14.8 = jonnybravo0311
+14.9 = Last of the V8s
+15.0 = HerbPean
+15.1 = psy0----------------new--can not win btc prize>>> " " " " " " " " " " " "
+15.2 = Mikestang
+15.3 = ailikun
+15.5 = Account Supplier
+16.0 = adaseb
+16.1 = sloopy
+16.4 = vortexz
+16.5 = amph ------------gave you this number as vortexz was ahead of you
+16.6 = Lboss
+16.7 = lanfeusst
+17.2 = d57heinz
+17.4 = bctmke
+17.5 = Dexter770221
+17.6 = RichBC
+17.7 = Chris_Sabian
+17.8 = ingiltere
+18.0 = alh
+18.4 = VirosaGITS
+18.5 = UfoRia
+18.6 = dukeneptun
+18.7 = Tmdz
+18.8 = Swordsoffreedom
+19.8 = n3o111
+19.9 = wlefever
+20.0 = Kexkey
+20.5 = The Young Turk
+20.7 = radiumsoup
+21.4 = keystroke
+21.5 = wpt1wpt1
+21.7 = ezeminer
+22.2 = Kipper01
+25.5 = goxed
okay people 3 new members all joined the forum this month they are marked above. suchmoon and I have decided what to do with prize btc and prize compac usb.
NO New members will not be accepted in this contest they will need at least one month old account and decent postings.
I have put down how those three new accounts will be handled. AND no more new accounts.
And I am banning any more new members from this point on during this adjustment period.
No more for this adjustment. if you have been on this site for months , but not in this game that is okay!
----------- (+19.91%)Bitcoin Difficulty: 79,102,380,900 Estimated Next Difficulty: 94,854,460,313 (+19.91%) Adjust time: After 432 Blocks, About 2.4 days Hashrate(?): 708,751,203 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 8.2 minutes 3 blocks: 24.4 minutes 6 blocks: 48.9 minutes Updated: http://btc.blockr.io/chartsDec 6 157 Dec 7 149 Dec 8 171 Dec 9 174 Dec 10 212 Dec 11 157 Dec 12 167 Dec 13 137 Dec 14 197 Dec 15 185 Once again a tremendous day 41 blocks over the norm! we have 432 blocks to go which should take 3 days at 144 a day more then likely 2 days and a few hours. note Dec 12 = 167 Dec 13 = 137 Dec 14 = 197 Dec 15 = 185 That swing is a good chance of a very big farm some say Bitfury has 50 megawatts and these swings have been tweaking of the farm. If it is 150 -225 ph and it looks like it they can't seem to keep it up and running so maybe just maybe it fails. Other then this we will be over 95 diff and around New Years close to 113.8 diff. 113.8 diff is 2x that of Sep 04 2015 56,957,648,455 407,718,729 GH/s price 230 Jan 1 2016 113,800,000,000 814,000,000 GH/s price 460? If the above is true and the network is ½ old gear .5 watts or worse and ½ new gear .25 watts you have done a push if you have .5 watt gear and if you have .25 watt gear you are better off then the sept 4 numbers. The point is a diff of 114 at a price of 460 usd does not take into account that the new .25 watt gear is better. if we stay at 460 usd the diff could be 230 before the .25 watt gear is hurting. |
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Thanks for the detailed and educational post on the meters, I had no idea. I used the same meter, though, to read the change from 227v to 240v. Also, my 227v reading went back up to 240v if I removed the load. The sag was caused by the power load and heat from summer. Winter temps are definitely helping right now.
No utility sets a transformer for 220v, they're all set to 240v. If by voltage coming into the neighbourhood you mean the top most wire bare (or 3 wires if 3 phase is available in your area) it's neither 240v nor 480v. In fact, quite far from it. Those lines run at 12200v or 14400v generally, and are transformed to 240v before they enter your property. When you read 208v on 3 phase, that's quite normal. 3 phase systems in the low volt range are 120v/208v, not 220v or 240v.
Oh, don't forget that your 1210w figure depends on a PSU with 93% efficiency. 2880w are no where near 93% efficient according to the tests I did. (measured DC output vs AC input) Not a good way to calculate your voltage.
What did your psu show 90% or less? |
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I would go with the Antminer setup, the S3's are built like tanks, and (if good ones) will overclock to 250mhz for roughly 1TH of performance.
I would go with an s3 also. I have one and it really runs great, not to loud either. I am not sure about 1TH performance but I would suggest you overclock it to a setting that gives you as less HW errors as possible and not to overclock it for the most TH that you can get, you will only compromise it's lifespan. Every S3 has it's sweets pot. He meant 250 freq gets 500gh Op wants 2 thus 500 + 500 = 1000 @ op my worst s-3 was about 425 gh but I had many that could do 500gh |
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If BTC is this vulnerable it is worthless.
And this is why a working consensus that is followed by everyone (ideal) is important or it crumbles. |
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The day is only 2/3rd of the way done but so far we are at +34 %
my thoughts are this is bitfury putting the 175ph to 225 ph farm online it is a 50 Mega-Watt farm and it is real. SO unless it burns to the ground due to bad wiring we will get a 20% or more jump. But there is an interesting thing before new gear back in sept we had 405ph all at .5 watts or worse. It will go offline if price does not move over 500 usd. An s-3 loses money at 500 gh 400 watts at 10 cents a kwatt at a diff of 101 with the current price of 457 so the s-3 will give up the ghost next jump. there was about 60ph in s-3's So when the gets over 100 diff which it will by years end older gear will drop off. How do you know they sold 133,333 Antminer S3's ? Seems like it would take a really really long time to produce that many S3. I know they did quite a bit of them. I tracked sales at the addresses they used for payments. And remember they sold at pretty low prices for a while. They were a big improvement over the s-1 and the s-1 sold 20ph worth of units. back to blocks made today https://blockchain.info/blocks388619 (Main Chain) 2015-12-15 23:09:55 388441 (Main Chain) 2015-12-15 00:04:02 above we did 179 blocks today with 50 minutes left so at least +35 blocks for the day. coins are at 464. at everybody if coin price drops to 275 or 230 what would you do? Do you know approx how many units of the Antminer S2 they sold ? I did a break down on them but I can't remember how well they sold. |
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The day is only 2/3rd of the way done but so far we are at +34 %
my thoughts are this is bitfury putting the 175ph to 225 ph farm online it is a 50 Mega-Watt farm and it is real. SO unless it burns to the ground due to bad wiring we will get a 20% or more jump. But there is an interesting thing before new gear back in sept we had 405ph all at .5 watts or worse. It will go offline if price does not move over 500 usd. An s-3 loses money at 500 gh 400 watts at 10 cents a kwatt at a diff of 101 with the current price of 457 so the s-3 will give up the ghost next jump. there was about 60ph in s-3's So when the gets over 100 diff which it will by years end older gear will drop off. How do you know they sold 133,333 Antminer S3's ? Seems like it would take a really really long time to produce that many S3. I know they did quite a bit of them. I tracked sales at the addresses they used for payments. And remember they sold at pretty low prices for a while. They were a big improvement over the s-1 and the s-1 sold 20ph worth of units. back to blocks made today https://blockchain.info/blocks388619 (Main Chain) 2015-12-15 23:09:55 388441 (Main Chain) 2015-12-15 00:04:02 above we did 179 blocks today with 50 minutes left so at least +35 blocks for the day. coins are at 464. at everybody if coin price drops to 275 or 230 what would you do? |
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OK, thanks, guys.
i want to run two very good S7 with one overlocked from 600 to 650 (B5) and another from 625 to 650 (B7).
B5 is already slightly overclocked from 600 to 625 and has little error, so why not?
I think that each would do ~1350-1380W at the wall at 650.
Biodom, PSU's are rated for DC draw (not the at the wall AC load which is after the efficiency drop). 1350W at the wall would be approximately 1,260W DC draw on the PSU using Bitmain's 93% efficiency from their own rating method. Meaning, even if you could over-clock both S7's to 1500W at the wall (Either 5 TH w/ 135 chip model or 5.8TH/s w/ 162 chip model) you would still be under 100% DC load on the 2880W PSU. And to answer your question, the PSU's are capable of handling >100% load, I have personally tested them up to around 3000W DC (13.5A at the wall) load for a many weeks. However, you are going to get considerably lower efficiency over 100% load, and you are likely to reduce their lifespan. Also, once you get over 2900W DC load on them, you start getting past the recommended continuous AC load for a single C19-C20 cable (12.8A, or 3070W at the wall for the 80% rating of the connectors' 16A rating). Personally, I like keeping them at around 90% load, or ~2600W, which 2x S7's overclocked sit perfectly in that range. Yeah I have yet to do the testing on the 2880 watters. I have a 12 gauge iec cord for it. This is another reason I like the 4000 watt 2x psu break out board. It uses 2 psus each 2000 watts and it uses two power cords you can get away with 14 gauge since you are pulling 8.5 amps or so on each psu. I think a lot of people will want the new 4000 watt option it is smaller foot print and more pcie cable up to 30. At the second setting of 12.23 volts I get a 15 amp or 3600 watt draw for the 2 avalon's and the one s-7 the avalon's really respond to this 4000 watt psu setup. |
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I am chasing Lee and his team from this morning to change my config as Lee site shows all OK but on ant mining pool nothing (Changes made last night) . I submitted new changes and still nothing changed. This is one point is very frustrating that you do not when you will get response.Send few emails still no reply. I lost my 24 hrs of mining of two miner.
There is not argument that Lee is very honest guy but he and his team are not efficient when it come to response (At least that is what my experience says). It could be down to TIME ZONE issue as when Europe start working in China people finish the work.
Lee should provide us remote access to machine change the pool name which could make life easier.
this will not happen anymore as he was hacked last year when he allowed this and it simply is not worth doing. Just think if you can sign into a miner on an ip say 192.168.x.yyy with a password you pick. I can sign into my miner at 192.168.x.yyx with a password I pick. By careful testing I can determine many mining ip's. I can check and test passwords then play the long game until I get 1500 or 2000th worth. switch them all to a blank new btc addy and mine them all at a solo pool if I hit the block auto drops to my btc addy and I steal from everyone with no one able to catch me. Thus no remote access. |
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Hi all, I'm new to this world and would like to get an ASIC miner, just for fun: I don't need one to earn, but I'd like it to pay its current bills and, on long time, to pay back its price, maybe. My choice is between two devices (of course suggestions are welcome): - Dragon Miner T1 - 1TH/s and 1kW, low price, seems great but I'm still unsure about its overall quality. - 2x Antminer S3 - 450GH/s and 350W -> 900GH/s and 700W in total. More GH/s per W, but price is slightly higher and the external power supply might be "unhandy" What is your suggestion? Any experience with the Dragon T1? It seems like a Chinese miner (while I don't expect the Antminer to be USA-made  ). Another question, what is the difference between the S3 and S3+? I might get the S3 or the S3+, the seller is not clear, is this a deal breaker? Any help or suggestion is appreciated! Thanks the s-3's are better in the sense they are light and easy to move. they run pretty quiet and there are low cost fans for it to be even quieter. if you are in the usa lots of good psu's are around. you will need cheap power for these units. if you want to earn a profit. |
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Phil,
I love this review - thanks for all of the sharing.
I do have a question though - you must be on the East Coast since we also had record temps yesterday!
70s are unheard of mid december. We are usually counting feet of snow here.
Howell ,NJ 72f I went to the Jersey shore for a few hours and walked the beach with the wife. So far these are really good psu's. I will run at 12.23 volt middle setting as the 12.53 does not help the s-7 I own. I think these are really great with avalon sixes for a lot of reasons one) four pcie cables vs 10 two) the avalon 6's I have respond very well at the high setting of 12.57 volts three) this is quiet with the fans I am using. four) I would not mind 3 avalon's on this psu set to the high setting |
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it would increase the aftermarket value of B1-7.
One positive way of looking at it I suppose. Always hate it when manufacturers start saving a few cents in this way. I am assuming it's been driven by the Bean Counters rather than a deliberate attempt to stop people plugging up multiple S7 to a single controller? Or could mean there is an S7+ on the way? Rich personally, i don't care anymore...it is not the time to spend BTC, but the time to harvest 'em. I agree just mine and save btc don't spend any btc. |
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Coincidentally 4 of my 6 miners just got the 'blank mining data' issue. Tried hard reboots to no avail. Tried to power them up first and then fire up the pi after, still no luck. Switched form antpool to F2pool and they all came back up 100%. Weird they wont show the connected devices, wattage, etc until they connect to a pool. Thinking the pool is related in some way as I have only been mining on Antpool when this has happened. IDK... Best of luck on experiment tonight rootdude.
makes sense that antpool might not like an avalon 6 mining on it. I suppose they can tell what is mining on their pool. I have used the avalon 6's on solo ckpook org mmpool org f2pool org |
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Would be nice to get enough people for a consistent 200-300TH
I am sure that would speed block finding up
I have to agree it has been a long time. This is a good pool but with under 75th getting blocks is tough. Maybe we need to do some kind of awareness campaign Its a great pool and it seems like a waste to let it get so underutilized Everything seems stable and working as intended Not sure what can be done other then continuing to post here and of course I mine here at the pool every day. This is my favorite pool and I have had a lot of fun here. Frankly I am overextended here at the moment I have a lot riding on the next block and I just wish we would hit it. It would be nice to see someone put in 500th for a while till it hits. |
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