if Visa/Mastercard are absorbing the costs of the fraud, what incentive is there for merchants to accept bitcoins?
But the banks and credit card companies do not take responsibility for the fraud. They push this back on the merchant as a chargeback. So Bitcoins are much more merchant friendly for combatting fraud at the point of sale. And the room full of data servers are primarily set to analyze your buying patterns, which is a heavy handed way to combat fraud. Merchant friendly yes, consumer friendly no. People aren't gonna like having little recourse beyond the courts (hope you can find the conman!) when someone rips them off. |
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anyone else care to elaborate what could be done to downsize piracy on the net? or how SOPA could be used to censor the internet? excluding wikileaks example, as it's obvious and probably single instance where sopa could be utilized in such a way.
I don't honestly think that it will be possible to protect IP in the future. I'm just stating this as a fact and not trying to present an opinion in favor or against the concept of IP. Organizations will have to develop business models that don't rely on IP protection. there is nothing wrong with open source as there is nothing wrong with closed source models. if someone want's to share their work it is their choice right as it is their right if they want to sell or license their work. presently, piracy unpunishably undermines abilities of those who wish to offer their works on limited terms. that is the issue. it is not a philosophical question what is ultimately and in most humane sense ideal. anyone should have a choice and ability to do with their work as they wish and if their rights to do so are discriminated or severed, there should be serious legal or criminal implications to those who undermine these rights of others. But is it really to the point where we need to give the government the right to censor the internet, even to the point of having ISPs just outright block certain content providers based on their say so? I don't believe SOPA will be an effective method in censoring the internet. Every time a gov wants to censor something they would have to tie it up with piracy or counter-fitting, other than cases such as wikileaks it will be very hard for them to justify and prosecute a censorship case with SOPA. and people will take notice and react if it occurs, so I'm not really worried about SOPA censoring anything effectively. but the issue with piracy remains... Well this isn't a thread about piracy, so it isn't really a relevant discussion to have. Feel free to start another thread in the relevant forum though. |
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Well you see all we have to do is make a blockchain that only validates good cells. Then implant the miners in our brains. Bitcells!
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anyone else care to elaborate what could be done to downsize piracy on the net? or how SOPA could be used to censor the internet? excluding wikileaks example, as it's obvious and probably single instance where sopa could be utilized in such a way.
I don't honestly think that it will be possible to protect IP in the future. I'm just stating this as a fact and not trying to present an opinion in favor or against the concept of IP. Organizations will have to develop business models that don't rely on IP protection. there is nothing wrong with open source as there is nothing wrong with closed source models. if someone want's to share their work it is their choice right as it is their right if they want to sell or license their work. presently, piracy unpunishably undermines abilities of those who wish to offer their works on limited terms. that is the issue. it is not a philosophical question what is ultimately and in most humane sense ideal. anyone should have a choice and ability to do with their work as they wish and if their rights to do so are discriminated or severed, there should be serious legal or criminal implications to those who undermine these rights of others. But is it really to the point where we need to give the government the right to censor the internet, even to the point of having ISPs just outright block certain content providers based on their say so? I mean I'm definitely not a Libertarian, but I certainly don't want to see the government get this kind of capability. |
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I'm not a part of the 100, but as an outside observer it looks good to me.
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You have a typo, end of first paragraph "Pressently".
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if you think SOPA is bad, what could be done instead to effectively downsize piracy on the internet? Oh the old trick of the trolls  The "propose something good against X or accept Y" (even if Y isn't related to X in anyway, like sopa with piracy) So the "Stop Online Piracy Act" has nothing to do with piracy? Oh, and having a different opinion than you doesn't make someone a troll. |
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You can create dead man switches that will take care of your Bitcoins if you or your loved ones are physically coerced.
Easy way: Buy flash drive+fingerprint scanner Hack together the two devices in such a way the fingerprint scanner does nothing. Tell them you have to do it because the fingerprint scanner has advanced biometrics and can tell when you are stressed. Step on flash drive. Don't be such a wuss, thermite is the only way to go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rdCsbZf1_Ng#t=195s |
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Thanks for the article and graphs p4man, it's a good read. i also like his rebuttal linked at the end.
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Down to 3.75 already, that was a nice bull trap.
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I wouldn't normally bring up old posts like that but considering the current discussion it seemed relavant (I also didn't hunt it down I remembered you posting that). I won't get into that whole discussion since it's off topic, but it shows a certain mindset. I also read this thread in its entirety before it was moved and edited, and it was very confrontational. The original title set the tone for the whole post. So maybe I'm biased.
Your argument doesn't work, people don't agree with it. Instead of constantly saying the same thing and letting this carry on for 9 pages, maybe try a different approach. Just saying. Only crazy people do the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. Maybe you should try arguing that Oldengineer should have locked and made a new thread (thread starters can lock their own threads). Which is creating a new contest, where all contestants can be reasonably assumed to be playing under the same rules. The current contest was rigged against several people who don't like to read long threads of nothing but dates (surprise surprise!). There are lots of ways to debate things and try to change people's minds.
That said, you are nothing like Atlas and I do think you are a good person(poster). Everyone has their flaws. Don't let it get you down, in real life I'd call you out on this as well, but I'd buy you a beer and show you the catapult I'm making afterwards.
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Nothing wrong with that. Offer is still on the table. After reading this thread, I have no problem believing that you feel entitled to "free" electricity and would sell it for your own profit/greed. |
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This is pretty cool, but I value my privacy too much.
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Furthermore the 50% fee discount coming into effect on the 25th to the end of the year ought to do something for volume as well.
Could you elaborate? What fee is being discounted? MtGoxs trading fee |
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Hey,
So you guys (~gender neutral "guys", I suppose~) are doing "Elliot Wave Analysis", right?
I'd like to read about it. Do any of you have some "suggest reading" which preferably can be found for free on one of the nets (not necessarily www)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Wave_Principle http://www.investopedia.com/university/advancedwave/ |
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Thats funny I noticed that the huge 15k askwall at $4 is much smaller so I feel the exact opposite as you.
Wishing for the price to drop won't make it so! You sure are one determined bear.
Has nothing to do with what anyone "wishes". |
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I hope they enjoy hemorrhoids in 10 years. Shit and get off the pot people!
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The thread belongs here because the OP is talking about the legalities of taking bitcoins, how to accept it, etc. which fits in general, nothing to do with political discussion. If the replies are going in a different direction those are what get split/deleted/whatever. Asking him questions about his political stance is related, debating the political stances isn't. Thread split, keep the political debate there if you want to do that. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55179.0 |
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