Bitcoin has just turned 9 years old...it was nine years ago that Satoshi Nakamoto shared to the world the whitepaper that would be the basis for the creation of Bitcoin and its underlying technology called the Blockchain. The ride was not really that easy because it took some time for Bitcoin to finally caught some fire which pushed the digital currency into the attention it is getting right now. People of course doubted at that time how can mere programming be able to create a digital currency that would have some value. As of today, those people who took the risk (no matter if they might have not been serious at that time) are experiencing the surprising rainfall of value they might have never expected to happen. Lucky for them...for many of us we have to work hard to get our Bitcoin though it is really worth every penny of the hard work (or money) we put in to get hold of some Bitcoin. There are still many people who are holding the idea that Bitcoin is essentially making money out of thin air. It is as if the idea of Bitcoin has not yet been absorbed by their consciousness and so many can be dismissing Bitcoin as just another fraud which is waiting to pop and to just evaporate like a bubble. Of course, we have already progressed out of this stage and right now Bitcoin is already an accepted currency and store of value by many prominent personalities and institutions. the creation of money out of nothing sounds ridiculous but its necessary, because growth won't be obtainable, and many created valuesources would be unused, or worse, unsecure in a destructive competition. regards
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOvw2nMr.jpg&t=665&c=Jx9678RBcAkBcg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNQ9EKeY.jpg&t=665&c=CaJ3K0BMmC9k4A) People complain about the waste of electricity to produce Bitcoins. But it is unbelievable the waste of the various resources we spend or no we do not use to serve only as a store of value. the evaluation of gold is purely mentall, it could quickly be replaced, simply by a non or even anti gold civilisational culture.
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we could still get into a stage that whole world knows about bitcoin, but whole world will still not support it.
bitcoin could even become spam in the market and people will hate it.
because it is just ultimately a currency for a market.
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Let's think for a second. Would such a world benefit mankind? Would it destabilize the current geo-economics? Is there even a remote possibility that we as humans let go of this ancient tradition of drawing lines on sand that have only served to create problems among masses and has done NOTHING good so far?
will you allow other people to sleep/eat/live in your own house ? i think not. you see the human nature is designed or could be "programmed" to live within borders, they start small at your own bedroom that is surrounded with borders , then goes to your house as a whole building, then a yard if you have one , a street , a city/state then a country. how can we convince the rich countries to share their resources with the poor countries when we can't convince our own kids to share the same room? it is a beautiful dream that i would love to see , but sorry to tell you , this is never going to happen on any large scale it could happen but only with a global communist police state, borders are then not between countries but between individuals and their access to consumption capacities. and socioeconomic structures.
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waves behaupted sich stabil, ist für mich keine überraschung bin schon lange ein waves befürworter,
das liegt daran das es defakto ein technisch besseres ethereum ist, das eben nicht in einem personifizierten hype hochgeblasen wurde.
nichtsdestrotrotz, es ist und bleibt nur eine verschlüsselungsplatform es ist nicht mehr, die ganzen spekulanten werden sich hier gegenseitig zerreißen. mit ihren spekulationen.
gruß
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stock value is severely damaged just by existance of crypto, but bitcoin also very risky. to hold in long term.
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are people nowadays already working for project token fluently?
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Hi Friends, actually one of my BTC address from Zebpay account having almost 0.01550 BTC has been hacked and the amount has been stolen just few days ago. The amount was not quite big for me, but i really fear about the security of holding the BTC in exchanges and now even in wallets.
I Just want to know is there any ways i can get back my BTC back to my account and also is there any website or authority who can help me out in getting back my stolen BTC, let me know about it. Also let me know what safety measurement should i take while holding my BTC in Exchanges. Thanks in advance.
since bitcoin is anti state, there is no real banking funded police that is really interested helping you except if they are naive, which is possible
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all "stablecoins" are in the end just a form of banked coins with the goal to fail the 1:1 ratio without the holders noticing,
all stable coin issuers have secretly the goal to move slowly towards fractional reserve backing they dont admit it but thats how they all work
its today even sure that tether is not 1:1 Backed because the market isn't testing it out consequentially.
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A friend of mine wanted a world without borders. Then he got into a fight with his neighbor and built a fucking wood barrier.
I told him you couldn't even avoid a wall with your neighbor, how the heck were you gona make the world without borders?
lol, jes live is mostly just spiritual, in a world without borders, there will be security systems of private individuals or organisations keeping up the divisions, take cryptomarket as an example it claims to be open but in truth it has borders of corruption and bribery needed to penetrate it.
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seems they cant find good personalities at all
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will be funny to see a crash towards 0$ so these "billionaires" or "millionaires" of the current will become beggars of tommorrow.
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Bitcoin took U-turn from $20k to $3.5k but who cares! We are HODLING!! In-fact when we have some spare fiats, we are buying some more!!!
Happy 5th anniversary "I AM HODLING"
May the HODLING force be with us ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
jes have fun hoping its actually funny to look at you doing that, for me.
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I've had this list in my head for a while and want to write it down so it can be challenged. That is why I didn't put it on r/socialism. I feel like there are a lot of capitalists on here so the list will be challenged to the fullest. Some names will be obvious and some may be controversial. Feel free to add or challenge anyone and I will provide the socialist quotes.
Jesus Christ Albert Einstein George Orwell Nelson Mandela Martin Luther King Tupac Shakur Bob Marley John Lennon (almost wrote John Lenin lol) Stephen Hawking Mahatma Gandi Abraham Lincoln
Growing up as a capitalist I looked up to all these people and had no idea they were socialists until recent years when I went back and reviewed the work after learning about socialism. Many of these people were assassinated and people loved them so much they hold theories that they are still alive. I often wonder where we would be with their leadership today.
nice idea with "coins4commies" but how will you deal with the imprisonment by the corrupt indexmafia? or the fact that the commie coins will become effective capitalists.
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mir war von anfang an klar das bitcoin nix wird, genauso wie die japanischen tamagotchi eier,
einzigen lichtblick den ich sehe sind die encription dienstleister, besonders was waves angeht da es im gegensatz von ethereum nicht in einem personifizierten hype hochgeblasen wurde.
Du scheinst weder von dem einen noch vom dem anderen etwas verstanden zu haben. Die Tamagotshi waren (und sind immer noch) die Renner! Die Firma Badai, die das Tamagotchi herausgebracht hat, ist dadurch heute der dritt Größte Spielzeughersteller Weltweit. Und hör auf jeden Thread mit deinem Hate zuzuspammen, geh einfach in den Altcoinbereich und kotz dich dort aus. Omg dann aber bestimmt blos notgedrungen bei den staedtern in asien wer schafft sich den im westen ein tamagotchi ei an Die dinger sind schnell aus meiner aufmerksamkeitsspanne verschwunden
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tuh ich gar nicht!!11!eins!elf!!! Omfg, noch kindischer geht's ja kaum. Purer Neid weil dein cy-Pro keiner kennt und nutzt, eben einfach ein weiterer nutzloser Shitcoin. lol, euer bitcoin ist doch eh am krepieren, und ripples dominanz ist der beweis das die gegenwärtigen kryptowährungsbewertung rein auf korruption aufgebaut ist, ich mus hier weder neidisch sein noch haten, ich warte einfach schön weiter bis ihr euch alle mit eurem korruptions schund selbst abgefackelt habt. ich bin sicher das das passieren wird. es läuft darauf hinaus. man kann es jeden tag beobachten, derjenige der das weis sieht es sofort.
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How do I earn Bitcoin?
you have to do stuff or give stuff to those that hold bitcoin and don't think it will rise in value Where can I find these jobs? ask here in this forum the bitcoin holders that want to sell their bitcoin and what they would do for them. Bitcoin Mining - what and why? bitcoin mining today is only profitable for the big boys in china and iceland forget about it.
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regarding the evaluation standard, i use current, for the most plain organic calories which is flour type 405 in germany that costs 1€ being 3 kg of those with then 3400 kalories per kg being 10200 plain organic calories being worth 1 Entity or 1 Socio Economic Source https://www.supermarktcheck.de/product/197227-belbake-weizenmehl-type-405/naehrwerte/this is already a much better basis, as the most reliable and stable business is not wasting electricity and installing computation power like with bitcoin but by provding organic calories, this is already a much more humane world giving this concept already a much bigger legitimacy towards an ecomonopolic style civilisation you will never get with bitcoin pump and dump trash, bull calls, corrupt cryptoindex mafia, this is all garbage this i show you here is the true waya layer of engineering foundations paying and guiding the earning population towards generativity paying with socioeconomic sources so if you want to land another multibillion success like you had in this forum wit bitcoin here you go we have to build this framework for engineering foundations, also with the ability to shut down a single foundation if it gets rouge or abused. and nullify the value of its token.
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Just to say that on point #2, calorie-based value. This requires all countries/regions to remain static, and you're basing it now on the common stable currency of dollar. But no economy wants to be static, and pressures to try and grow that value, but we see that inflation is the theme - so a simple step away from that was Bitcoin's deflationary system.
Regions like the EEA are constantly trying to level that playing field, trying to bring that disparity level but overall nett effect is still inflationary.
And on point #3, how else to clip hedonism if not applying values of socialism? What's the end goal here? If not social equity then just economy? Then we already have the big financial institutions as the bastions of free trade. They're already free from communism, socialism and nationalism... no need for a new world order of capitalism. It's already here.
calorie based valuation is a good valuation standardisation, there are good reasons for that, first, is that the current banks are causing a lot of economic insecurity, farmers could easily produce and sell more, but cant, adding engineering foundations to increase and professionalise the creation of generativity into the economy is therefor a good idea, the calorie based evaluation makes a reliable accounting possible and the farmers know that for that money people worked, and created values (bitcoin is no way in that dimension) secondly you have to have those foundations running sufficently introducing it globaly at once for people to just found will have scammers or hedonists among them, to limit that we have to be able to shut down a foundation and its token although they all behave standardised there will be a global moral codex, and here comes the unity its not based on culture(india, or burocratic parliaments,) these engineering foundations will work much smoother that the broken central banks, with overhired personell. i know what i am talking about i know these banks. i say it again, to advance crypto we have to build it this way, its simply a fact, everyone that understands economy understands me. we cant run this pump and dump schemes, dramas, speculations, pow trash, forever the industry becomes a joke.
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