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3381  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 23, 2019, 07:15:03 AM
General reminder to everyone that slavery has been abolished in our part of the world for hundreds of years.

Is that why there are 11,000 slaves in the UK in 2016?  

FYI illegal drugs have been abolished too.  Doesn't seem to have worked out.
3382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 23, 2019, 07:09:35 AM
If said slave chooses to spend time that he could've used e.g. on devising an escape plan on complaining.

That's a joke right?  

We are talking about young girls who are chained to beds to work as prostitutes.  We are talking about kids on fishing trawlers in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.  We are talking about people who have been in North Korean concentration camps for two generations, whose entire family will be executed if they escape.  

Your opinion is they should not complain about their circumstances, and we as wealthy Westerners should not try to help them? 
3383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 23, 2019, 06:58:22 AM

But to come full circle, what does that have to do with BITMILLIONAIRE's original statement? I shall repeat it once again, should you have already forgotten.

Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.

Ok lets consider slavery.  Yes there are slaves right now.  To wit:

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Modern slavery is defined as slavery, servitude, forced or compulsory labour and human trafficking1. The 2016 Global Slavery Index estimates that 45.8m people in 167 countries are living in modern
slavery today2. The majority are victims of exploitation in private sector activities, such as manufacturing, construction and agriculture. Forced labour and slavery is big business — the International Labour
Organisation estimates that illicit profits from these crimes amount to US$150b per year. Businesses are facing increasing pressure to tackle the crisis of modern slavery head-on as awareness grows and
consumers demand more responsibility from their preferred brands. Modern slavery also represents a significant reputational risk to businesses as non-governmental organisations and the media ‘name
and shame’ companies who violate human rights.   [...]  In 2016, there were an estimated 11,700 victims of slavery in Britain alone
 Source:  https://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/ey-the-uk-modern-slavery-act-2015/$FILE/ey-the-uk-modern-slavery-act-2015.pdf



Can we safely assume that Jbear and BTCMillionaire think that any of the current 45 million slaves in the world that has time to complain about about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them

Is this how you guys think?
3384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 11:20:35 PM
Your post is funny tho
3385  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 11:11:29 PM




I'm sorry HM..this will involve sanction's and possible forfeiture of the hat. The committee will inform you of the result's when appropriate. /s

Hahaha fuck I do enough self doxing without having to sic the doorman on Roach
3386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 10:42:48 PM
It's fine. Leave it. Up to the labourer to do all that, not some busybody who thinks he knows better.

You might find it morally objectionable to offer children of Pakistani labourers education followed by (comparatively) high paid desk jobs but I have no such qualms.  
3387  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 10:38:55 PM
^Last of the V8s sends his apologies but his permission slip seems to have gone astray
3388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 10:37:04 PM
A kid born to an investment banker in NY has the opportunity to go to Wharton.
A kid born to a Pakistani manual laborer has the opportunity to work in a rug factory at age 10.  

What we are seeing, societally, is a shift towards shoe-horning Pakistani manual laborers into jobs as NY Investment Bankers.

In a manner of speaking...  Undecided

It's starting from the West Coast, though.

Guess what happens.   The wages of Pakistani manual labourers go up, a lot.  It is very satisfying.  

And the “NY investment bankers” tend to find other jobs pretty quickly. They are smart, agile and adaptable.

3389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 10:28:52 PM
Not everybody has the same opportunities. But everybody has opportunities.

Agreed.  

A kid born to an investment banker in NY has the opportunity to go to Wharton.

A kid born to a Pakistani manual laborer has the opportunity to work in a rug factory at age 10.  

Everyone has opportunities.  

The real question is whether we think this is a satisfactory state of affairs, or whether we should strive for improvement.

My belief is that by improving the opportunities available to the child of the Pakistani labourer, we all become wealthier.   That child may invent a cure for disease X if they are given the opportunity.


3390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 06:55:24 PM
I have met McAfee. 

Smart guy but throws off this vibe that something is clearly not right with him in the head.

Avoid.
3391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 11:31:40 AM
Gentlemen

We have weathered the worst of the winter.  A new spring will dawn in time.  There will still be storms, rain and hail, thunder and awe.  But we are the hodlers, the keepers of the faith.  And we shall prevail.  

It is time to put away the bear suit and bear talk.  Xhomerx, as always, has produced a stunning new hat.  






When monkey time comes again, Hairymonkey can come back out to play.  Until then, Hairybull.





3392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 08:55:41 AM
No one is asking for life to be fair.  It isn't. 

Just don't deceive yourself that you hit a home run because you happened to be born on third base.  
3393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 08:29:43 AM
Anyone who has time to complain about wealth inequality doesn't really deserve moving upwards in the food chain, as they could've invested the same time on figuring out sensible goals for their life as well as some steps towards them.

QFT.

+1

What he said.

What if they used the time, then figured out the solutions and then realized every one of those solutions would get them killed so decided to just sit back and complain until someone else finds a better solution that doesn't get them killed?

I can't even figure out what you are getting at. Working on life will get you killed? I guess in some sense. In the long run, we're all dead.

Life is hard. Buck up, bucko - or get lapped by those willing to put in the work.

I dated a girl for a number of years.

Her father was wealthy and powerful.  He owned 25+ houses that he rented out.  He was also a drunk and highly abusive.

The mother eventually divorced him after a series of domestic violence incidents.  The father decided to make the mother's life a living hell.   He hired lawyers to sue the mother for everything under the sun, stalked the mother and tried to destroy her friendship networks.  This went on for five years.  

The mother grew deeply depressed and semi suicidal.  My girlfriend and her sister at the age of 8 had to get the mother out of bed in the morning, get her dressed so the mother could drive them to school.  Some days they couldn't get their mother out of bed so they missed school.  

My girlfriend was incredibly smart and motivated but she missed a lot of school during that five year period.  It affected her grades and she had to work hard to try to catch up.  She also had the mental load of trying to parent her own mother through the divorce and aftermath.  There is no doubt in my mind if she had had a normal, stable childhood, she would have been a surgeon or rocket scientist.  Instead she will likely never achieve her full potential.  

Let's not kid ourselves that everyone has equality of opportunity.  Because they don't.
3394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: January 22, 2019, 07:48:30 AM
Beam chain stop event analysis

https://medium.com/beam-mw/mimblewimble-blockchain-stop-event-postmortem-21012019-9a7ef38b2813
3395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: January 22, 2019, 03:59:23 AM
Wtf is with the spread between Hotbit 0.0014 and BitForex 0.0008

I looked into this lol... Turns out Bitforex has withdrawals disabled on Grin until tomorrow (withdrawal will be available on 2019/1/23 15:00 (GMT+8)....I assume at this time a lot of cheap Grin will be withdrawn and transferred to Hotbit and co, and the price will fall @ the expensive exchanges (but possibly rise at Bitforex due to decreased supply?)

Yeah I dunno.  The order books at Hotbit are pathetically thin.  Caution advised.
3396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: January 22, 2019, 02:26:52 AM
I had a look at the Hotbit order books.  They are a joke.  Hotbit’s reported volume is fake and the price reflects the lack of liquidity. 
3397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: January 22, 2019, 01:20:27 AM
Sshhh. Nobody knows I’m here. I’m hunting wabbits.  
3398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Grin | PoW Mining | Electronic transactions for all. Community driven. on: January 22, 2019, 01:17:21 AM
Wtf is with the spread between Hotbit 0.0014 and BitForex 0.0008
3399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2019, 01:16:01 AM
Sadly I am not offended
3400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 21, 2019, 11:55:07 PM
Please repost it so I can be offended
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