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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.3%)
H1 2020 - 29 (18.6%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.9%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.6%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
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January 21, 2019, 11:08:07 PM
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Ok Mic, I did say I would post...

First, Gdansk old town from the window:



The starter, langoustines - flambéed in brandy in a basil and cream sauce:



And my main was moules marinières, (but to be frank not quite as good as the Belgian ones I enjoy in Flanders).
 
However, I chose this place with you in mind as it has a giant letter on the ceiling, approprite for here:



Nite, dude. And stop bothering reading Roach's posts - most people here put him on ignore years ago Wink


EDIT: Misspelled Gdansk!
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January 21, 2019, 11:34:59 PM

Ok Mic, I did say I would post...

First, Gdank old town from the window:



The starter, langoustines - flambéed in brandy in a basil and cream sauce:



And my main was moules marinières, (but to be frank not quite as good as the Belgian ones I enjoy in Flanders).
 
However, I chose this place with you in mind as it has a giant letter on the ceiling, approprite for here:



Nite, dude. And stop bothering reading Roach's posts - most people here put him on ignore years ago Wink

Very Nice, Some real WO camaraderie Wink
Belgian-flanders resto’s are very very good, but on the pics it didn’t look bad @all what you were having their, it all seems very very right their.... Nice view good food a perfect trip away
(I have never been in poland myself)

And when their are Some boring moments as right now btc-related, Then I do love to see Some real life value moments as well Grin

@r0ach.... just cause I know its nonsense... gonna Maybe read that post tomorrow (very Maybe, @troll Department I would read it for sure, just saying)

Back into HODLsleep .....
good night WO’s

Edit: thx to cAPSLOCK and LFC whiteout you Guys I wouldn’t be able of sending a merit for this effort (of giving the thread Some real colour during boringness of BTC) Wink

Btw: it seems you’re a younger couple as well (hope both coiners) Wink
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January 21, 2019, 11:41:40 PM

@r0ach.... just cause I know its nonsense... gonna Maybe read that post tomorrow

If it was nonsense, multiple people would post debunking it, but as usual, not a single person even attempts to because they know they can't.  They see even discussing issues like this as being detrimental to their "investment" and prefer to spam Andreas Antonoplous-style propaganda, lies, and slogans instead.  That Jbreher guy is a couple cans short of a six pack, but he isn't completely retarded and there's obviously a reason he sees LN as a non-solution as well.  He's just for some reason unable to articulate any reasons as to why, unlike I can.
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January 21, 2019, 11:50:33 PM

Mrs V told me to delete a post. Sorry if I offended anyone.  Embarrassed
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January 21, 2019, 11:55:07 PM
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Please repost it so I can be offended
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January 21, 2019, 11:57:39 PM

Please repost it so I can be offended
@ChristianJMay 3 hours ago (yes a right-wing weirdo guy, I'd guess) https://twitter.com/ChristianJMay/status/1087453385975087105

Brexit undoubtedly creating a headache for many firms, but amid the gloom:

- Majority of UK CEOs expect to boost headcount in 2019
- Record rise in number of graduate jobs on offer in 2019
- London office take-up at 4 year high
- Commercial property investment at 4 year high


counter: quite funny thread https://twitter.com/mac_puck/status/1087360379691380736
Brace for mega thread on "ALL THEM RULES INNIT" There is a type of of brexiter who is motivated not by xenophobia, or Empire nostalgia, or buccaneering trade fantasies, but instead by "all them EU rules". Sadly they can never name a single one. So I have done some research...

edit: more interesting different subject https://twitter.com/Douglas9162/status/1087483324782784512
My notes “Let my people go Surfing” by Yvon Chouinard (founder of Patagonia), ~25 things
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January 21, 2019, 11:58:37 PM

Did somebody previously post a graph or a chart detailing what happens to the price every January (we usually slump every Jan?).

Any way, curious to know people’s thoughts that if we stay over $3,200 as we enter February - Have we definitely seen the bottom of this cycle?

Thoughts?


Bitcoin is not seasonal.

Remember the proclamation that we go up every November?

That did not work too well in November 2018.

I think that the pressure (lack of support) for down is greater than the pressure (too much resistance) for up. 

Does not mean that the price is going down.  Does not mean that I hope the price will go up.  Does not mean that I am selling any.  Does not mean that I am not going to buy more BTC if the price goes down. Does not mean that my stash of BTC is NOT big enough for me to be prepared for UP.

In other words, I have hardly no fucking clue, beyond a coin toss with the use of a coin that is slightly skewed towards down.
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January 22, 2019, 12:11:54 AM

counter: quite funny thread https://twitter.com/mac_puck/status/1087360379691380736
Brace for mega thread on "ALL THEM RULES INNIT" There is a type of of brexiter who is motivated not by xenophobia, or Empire nostalgia, or buccaneering trade fantasies, but instead by "all them EU rules". Sadly they can never name a single one. So I have done some research...

I notice the giant faggot in the link sees no problem with being ruled over by unelected bureaucrats (authoritarianism), therefore, I proclaim myself as your new ruler and none of you should technically have any problem with that.  Hell, for all you know I'm already typing this from Brussels.
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January 22, 2019, 12:14:05 AM

Did somebody previously post a graph or a chart detailing what happens to the price every January (we usually slump every Jan?).

Any way, curious to know people’s thoughts that if we stay over $3,200 as we enter February - Have we definitely seen the bottom of this cycle?

Thoughts?

You probably refer to a chart here:
https://bitcoinist.com/january-crypto-crash-nothing-new/

A drop in Jan 2015, 2016 and 2017, a little in 2018, most centered on Jan 12-Jan 18.
Timeline-wise we passed it already, which means nothing, of course.
Personally, I still think that we had our "January" effect in December.
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January 22, 2019, 12:37:34 AM

and there's no such thing as lack of upward mobility.

I agree that each individual case mostly depends on someone's effort, however, there is some evidence that upward mobility has declined (for some reason, especially in the Midwest, less in NY, Massachusetts and Montana):
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/356/6336/398

You can argue why it happaned, but not whether it happened or not, according to the authors.

Lack of real upward mobility does not imply the lack of opportunity for such. There are all kinds of reasons not to move upwards. Tribes exist that specifically avoid all contact with anything outside of their world, by choice.
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For the analog to be meaningful it should be LN/BTC ~~ TCP/IP

(TCP is stacked on top of IP, the lower layer) ... just saying.

For sure.   Wink Would not want to confuse anyone.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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January 22, 2019, 12:57:40 AM

Damn, I pretty patient when it comes to long term shit but this is getting ridiculous.
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January 22, 2019, 01:16:01 AM

Sadly I am not offended
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January 22, 2019, 01:22:52 AM

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It only took six years.
From now on, I will write two letters a week instead of one.

ebook  here:
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January 22, 2019, 01:41:54 AM

Damn, I pretty patient when it comes to long term shit but this is getting ridiculous.

Really? Compared to what?

I think you are probably not as patient as you think.
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January 22, 2019, 01:49:57 AM

@ roach, you really have nothing in your arguments regarding BTC fungibility vs PM's. Your claims are pure speculation that certain addresses will be blacklisted where miners won't touch it. That has not happened and it's not even close. Until an address or transaction is muted on the main chain or LN you're just spouting  your own conspiracy theory Armageddon fears.
Regarding middlemen/ transaction validators:
I've personally been taxed many times after arriving in airports carrying non personal PM's. If I try to hide them or refuse to pay the tax, my physical PM's get confiscated.  It's not possible to carry significant amounts of PM's abroad unless you figure out how to smuggle them in. There's just one example of a realized middleman for your physical PM's.
Today's commerce largely does not happen face to face with physical exchange and if I'm willing to travel to the merchant who is in another country, how will I avoid such middlemen. Do you suppose I should simply pay the tax on my PM's every time I fly?
Dystopia is believing we will all go back to carrying chunks of metal in our pockets again.
Since you want to fight this "war" and you seem capable enough to articulate, please tell, what future would you have for money if it were to unfold to your liking?
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January 22, 2019, 02:31:54 AM

Did somebody previously post a graph or a chart detailing what happens to the price every January (we usually slump every Jan?).

Any way, curious to know people’s thoughts that if we stay over $3,200 as we enter February - Have we definitely seen the bottom of this cycle?

Thoughts?


Bitcoin is not seasonal.

Remember the proclamation that we go up every November?

That did not work too well in November 2018.

I think that the pressure (lack of support) for down is greater than the pressure (too much resistance) for up. 

Does not mean that the price is going down.  Does not mean that I hope the price will go up.  Does not mean that I am selling any.  Does not mean that I am not going to buy more BTC if the price goes down. Does not mean that my stash of BTC is NOT big enough for me to be prepared for UP.

In other words, I have hardly no fucking clue, beyond a coin toss with the use of a coin that is slightly skewed towards down.
Yeah people are too excited to jump on what they see as trends and seasons, people were talking about the November and December pumps since July when the price continued a downtrend.
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January 22, 2019, 02:37:56 AM

@ roach, you really have nothing in your arguments regarding BTC fungibility vs PM's. Your claims are pure speculation that certain addresses will be blacklisted where miners won't touch it.

WHAT Bitcoin fungibility?  There never has been any and there never will be.  All Lightning Network does is decrease fungibility even further where you go from non-fungible and barely functioning acceptance, to needing to ask permission to a bank for every single transaction.  The base bitcoin network is completely useless except for settlement between large financial entities.  This is not new news.  Hal Finney talked about this years ago.  For bitcoin to be anything but a useless niche product, you'd be using the complete dystopia known as Lightning network as I describe here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg49357146#msg49357146

I'm not even addressing this other complete nonsense about you complaining it's too hard to smuggle physical metals through an airport.  Percentage-wise, barely any of the general population even flies on airplanes, especially on a regular basis.  If for some absurd reason you think it's mandatory you have the ability to constantly smuggle around tons of gold to and fro on airplanes, then buy your own private jet like any important person would have that flies a lot.
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January 22, 2019, 03:20:02 AM

UBI should not be regarded as communism. Job automation will eventually result in too few jobs for all people. Companies will have to pay some kind of machine tax to finance the UBI.
Work is a fundamental right, everyone should have the right to work. If there is no work, people needs alternatives to survive.

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I fear that you, my friend, are in for a very rude awakening.
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