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341  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 20, 2013, 05:48:18 PM
That's a boost error, not Anoncoin related. Do:
sudo apt-get install libboost1.53-all-dev

Anyway, I have never built Anoncoin using the Qt Creator, and I don't think any other in the Anoncoin team have done the same. I suggest doing it from command line.

BroTroxer posted a howto-build in this thread some pages back.  Smiley I'm at work now so I can't use much time to search for it, but give it a try and the guide should work for you Smiley
thx but
Code:
libboost1.53-all-dev is newest version
and from command line with
Code:
make -j1 -f makefile.unix USE_UPNP=-
I get
Code:
In file included from /usr/include/boost/variant.hpp:17:0,
                 from script.h:12,
                 from main.h:11,
                 from checkpoints.cpp:10:
/usr/include/boost/boost/variant/variant.hpp:51:63: Schwerwiegender Fehler: boost/type_traits/is_nothrow_move_constructible.hpp: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
Kompilierung beendet.
make: *** [obj/checkpoints.o] Fehler 1

Ok. It's something with boost. As you might see in the error message.. Could you check if you got more than one version of boost installed? or reinstall the boost library.
342  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 20, 2013, 12:28:55 PM
Ubuntu 13.04, Qt Creator
Code:
/usr/include/boost/boost/variant/variant.hpp:51: error: boost/type_traits/is_nothrow_move_constructible.hpp: No such file or directory

That's a boost error, not Anoncoin related. Do:
sudo apt-get install libboost1.53-all-dev

Anyway, I have never built Anoncoin using the Qt Creator, and I don't think any other in the Anoncoin team have done the same. I suggest doing it from command line.

BroTroxer posted a howto-build in this thread some pages back.  Smiley I'm at work now so I can't use much time to search for it, but give it a try and the guide should work for you Smiley
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 20, 2013, 10:10:33 AM
Why does https://coinpool.in have so many problems? :/  At this time I am seeing https://anc.usr.io to be really the only stable pool from ANC but still not much love. Where is the rest of the network hash coming from? Solo Mining? Or am I missing some pool out there that I do not know about

Sorry about that. It happens from time to time but it is usually a speedy recovery whenever there are trouble. You are missing at least two pools that are online. There are probably some solo miners out there, but we do not know how many, or what their hashrate would be. The network hashrate can usually not to be trusted as the difficulty jumps per block which makes the calculations unreliable.

http://anc.ltcoin.net
http://anon.cryptcoins.net

If anyone else wants to operate a pool that would be great. There is still a need for stable pools that has a fair share count. The anc.usr.io pool seems to be very unfair to long-term miners as they might be ripped off by the low PPLNS share count when the big miners hit 'n run on low diff.

!!!!!! http://anc.ltcoin.net has wrong difficutly. I guess the pool uses a old client. DO NOT MINE THERE!!!!!. That would cause a fork for you!!!
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 20, 2013, 09:21:23 AM
Hey, guys! I remember asking about an implementation of a webpage that shows an active list of p2p nodes, and I was wondering: Is it possible to find other online i2p/tor nodes, [through the daemon] and connect to them directly? (e.g. I go to the debug window and type 'findpeers [net] ' with [net] being Tor/I2P, and it returning a list of currently active I2P/Tor nodes.) It may help us [newbies] get a few more connections. Wink

See the net.cpp and search for "b32.i2p" to find some seeds. I can update a better list later Smiley

Third, if and when you do implement the PoS service into the ANC daemon, will you put a cap on how long you can wait before the coins are forgotten and not put in line to be mined for interest? [For PPC it was 90 days, I believe]. {http://www.reddit.com/r/ppcoin/comments/1djlhz/question_regarding_pos/} I do not know if I understood the thread completely, but I assume this is what it was talking about. If you do plan on putting a cap in, how long do you estimate it will be? [P.S. how are PoS coins mined? Are they just treated as transaction [from nowhere], or are they treated as being mined?]

Thank you for reading this, and if you can answer these questions, please do so for me! I really want to stay as up to date as possible on this coin!

We haven't looked much into it yet, so sorry I can't answer it right now. But I will announce it here & at our blog when we have decided how a potential PoS implementation would work. Smiley
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 20, 2013, 09:18:34 AM
Anoncoin/Bitcoin : just passed 0.003 @ cryptsy Grin
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 20, 2013, 09:16:09 AM
how far is your zerocoin implementation?

Was just coming here to ask the same thing. Any updates?

It's still in an early stage. The first part will be implementing the early alpha of Zerocoin into the Anoncoin testnet, then comes the testing to discover bugs within Zerocoin itself that the Zerocoin devs will be working on. I would not expect a fully working zerocoin implementation until the end of the year at best. If it works flawlessly the first time around (personally I believe there's a ~1% chance of that happening) it would probably be complete during november.

Are you integrating the Zerocoin v1 library as is or do you have plans to deal with the two major flaws in Zerocoin first, before releasing it for use against the "production" AnonCoin blockchain?

Flaw #1: Zerocoin v1 is highly inefficient (not production ready).

https://github.com/Zerocoin/libzerocoin/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions
Quote
The current implementation of Zerocoin has two efficiency problems. First, the 'coin spend' zero knowledge proofs are somewhat large (>25 KB). We intend for these proofs to reside in the block chain, but their large size makes this challenging. As a result it may be necessary to distribute them via some other mechanism such as a Distributed Hash Table.

Additionally, Zerocoin spend proofs are somewhat time consuming to verify, at least as compared to ECDSA signatures (they take a larger fraction of a second). This creates problems with latency when all nodes verify them, though we are hopeful that there are engineering solutions to this problem.

We are currently working on improvements to the Zerocoin cryptography that we hope will bring smaller and faster proofs. At this point we will release a 'Zerocoin v2' protocol and users will have to decide if they want to deploy this protocol in their networks.

Flaw #2: Zerocoin as currently implemented requires configuration with a trusted non-secret integer of 1,026 bits in length generated by multiplying together two factors p and q. That means you need a "trusted party" to configure Zerocoin; more importantly, if this trusted party decides to hold on to the p and q factors they used (rather than destroying them) or shares them with anybody, then they will be able to double spend any zerocoins. This is a fatal flaw if we wish Zerocoin to operate in a zero-trust manner.

https://github.com/Zerocoin/libzerocoin/wiki/Generating-Zerocoin-parameters

Quote
Security Warning: It is critical that the modulus N be generated properly and that the factors p, q and all related information be destroyed. These factors are not needed in the protocol. Moreover, any party who learns these factors will be able to double-spend zerocoins. Note however that knowledge of p, q does not jeopardize the anonymity of Zerocoin.

...

A second project (not currently planned) is to implement distributed multiparty generation of the modulus N. Some protocols exist in the literature to do this. We are not aware of any that have been implemented.

If you plan on integrating Zerocoin as is, that's fine. I just hope you realize that by doing so you'll be turning the AnonCoin blockchain into more of a test/research blockchain that may not scale well (due to Flaw 1) and can't be fully trusted (due to Flaw 2).


Chill, I've read all the wiki pages and the source of Zerocoin. We are well aware of that the zerocoin v1a implementation is not finished, and requires a lot more work. That's why it's named Alpha.. E.g not ready for production.

Zerocoin would require a lot of time, and I'm not sure we're even finished in the time BroTroxer is talking about, becuse of the problems zerocoin still have to address.

Also, we would never launch zerocoin in the production network without heavily testing on testnet. And I'm sure when that time comes, it's no problem getting a lot of people here to help test it out on the testnet to see how it works, before even thinking of introducing it into the network.


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However, my plan to implement Coinjoin into the client is still under discussion and can happen before Zerocoin, since Zerocoin would require a lot more work and research. What I mean with implement Coinjoin is that coinjoin "rooms" are distributed via the client, and does not need a central server for people to meet and sign a joined transaction.
347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of all cryptocoins on: September 19, 2013, 10:38:31 PM
Hi,

Could someone add Anoncoin to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/List_of_alternative_cryptocurrencies ?

Thanks!
348  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 19, 2013, 08:55:51 AM
POS would be GREAT  I think that it adds stability to the network although everyone touts that it prevents 51% POW attacks I think that the added stake generation load helps to even out difficulty jumps.  If you implement POS, I personally would like to see a POS system that doesn't generate too much dust but which has an annual interest rate that is interesting enough to motivate people to open their wallets just to receive POS shares (adding stability to the network - why shouldn't they be "paid" a little something).  Perhaps a POS interest rate of 15-25% should be enough to be interesting without being hyperinflationary - remember coins that move do not become part of POS until they have been idle in a wallet 10 days (or whatever). 

Also I would like to see a POS system that prevented dust by gathering up potential POS shares and submitting them to the network on a 3 or 4 hour cycle - this would prevent a lot of interest on interest payments that expand the blockchain without great benefit thus reducing dust...  -digeros

PS. hey ANC people,

anyone interested in having drinks and discussion about cryptocurrencies, i am buying the first pitcher of beer.
http://www.meetup.com/Elk-Grove-ButtonWood-CryptoCurrency-Trading-Discussion/

in Elk Grove, California tonight and weekly about 5 miles south of sacramento.  - digeros

First of all, thanks for the feedback! Smiley

And about the beer, I would love to, but currently "stuck" on the other side of the world  Sad
349  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 19, 2013, 08:50:11 AM
 if my .conf has set i2p=1 then ipv4 seems to dominate and i get no i2p connections

In the early stages of my testing i had a dual function status bar appear on the client but now I cannot seem to get it back.
When I had this I got both protocols functioning, at least the i2p appeared there with a connection or 2 occasionally.
Musta obliterated some config somewhere and cannot find any clue as to what it was ...


We know of this, it's a issue found in 0.8 we're working on. That's why I haven't announced new binaries yet. We won't release binaries before such issues are fixed. So people don't have to upgrade all the time  Smiley
350  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 18, 2013, 10:12:37 PM
Thank you for the explanation as the darknet is a mystery to me and fortunately I have not had the need to use it. I think you did a great job of addressing my questions, the only remaining one was my question regarding the possible 51% attack vulnerability due to the dramatic difficulty adjustments. Let me try to better explain my question: Say a multipool were to jump onto ANC due to high profitability. The difficulty skyrockets 1000% due to the increase in hash causing the regular/consistent miners to stop mining ANC. Once the multipool has time to realize they are now wasting their efforts due to the drop in profitability, they also drop off and redirect their hash to another coin. Does this leave ANC vulnerable at this point for a 51% attack if one were so inclined? Thank you again for taking the time to address my inquiries - very nice work with ANC Smiley

Since ANC changes diff for each block, multipool would only mine for just some blocks, max 7-10 before the switch. And people are constantly mining even if multipool has jumped on. So I don't think it's a problem now. But I will check it out more. If we were to do a hardfork again, which we must when introducing zerocoin, we will add PoS as well, so the 51% attack will get a lot harder.
351  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 18, 2013, 10:03:19 PM

Hey, on a lighter note, check this out: ₳

It was the currency character for a deprecated Argentine currency, the Austral. It's been gone for 20 years and they now use something else ( or $US, or BTC )

It's in loads of fonts, alt-8371 on a windows keyboard for ex !

So, if they don't use it anymore, then why not Anoncoin ?

... would be kinda ironic if it caught on  Cheesy

Awsome!! Thanks  Grin post your address if you use anoncoin and I'll send you some for the tip Smiley

Update http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/20b3/index.htm - html codes etc for use of it Smiley
352  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 18, 2013, 03:28:08 PM
Sorry for the off-topic but do using a VPN + Tor make it any better? Does it make any sense?

Hm, not really sorry. Because look at it this way. You have done something that got NSA's attention. They attack Tor and find out you where using a node owned by the "Acme VPN service" (example company). Then they forces the comany to either show data about you, or if that's not possible. Give a list of users signed in to the service while the criminal activity was done.

Then it's just some social engineering left, and you're detected..

The problem with VPN is that it's centralized.. You connect to a central node. Which also logs in most cases. Not saying it logs the traffic. But who signs on etc is sure logged.
353  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 18, 2013, 01:35:30 PM
Please read http://i2p2.no/how_networkcomparisons.html to get a general better knowledge about Tor and I2P, and the difference between those networks. Less technical article, most people can understand this.
354  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 18, 2013, 01:28:19 PM
Can someone explain this coin to me? I get the darknet thing for privacy, but isn't the dark net created and run by the US govt? Kind of makes this privacy angle void. Also, what is the difficulty algorithm and why has the mining difficulty jumped 2000% in a week? Seems excessive but maybe this is due to additional miners? Just seems the profitability isn't there for miners. Less miners is a dangerous game and leaves a coin susceptible to 51% attack, no? Unless this coin has PoS? Also, is this coin not open source? Would love to look a little closer at the code. Thanks in advance for help addressing these questions.

Edit: I see the difficulty algorithm question was addressed while I was typing. Thanks!

Tor was created by the government for their own use to provide anonymous communications. Probably intended to be used by spies reporting back home. I2P however is community developed without any intervention by governments.
As for your diff question, view post above.



First of all, seems like you have missed some essential information about this coin, like if the coin is open source or not. Please see the first post in this thread.
Anoncoin is of course open source: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin



The US founds around 60% of Tor's income. And we don't priorities Tor. But a lot of people around here think it's a safe darknet...
Recently researchers wrote in newspapers that NSA could break the 1024bit RSA/DH.

See http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/07/the-nsa-can-read-some-encrypted-tor-traffic/

So, to conclude this: You can run _ANY_ coin which supports a socks proxy over Tor. But you are not safe until Tor upgrade their keys. Also, I don't like the expire time of tunnels Tor creates, they are up for hours. And as far as I know, Tor send both In and Out traffic in the same route.

I've never said Tor was secure, nor that anonymous that most people claims.


However I2P is completely community developed, and has no central authority, like Tor got since the clients bootstraps into hardcoded directory servers.

I'm a developer of I2P myself, and runs some "reseed" nodes. (same as directory servers.)

I2P will also expire it's tunnels after 10min and create new ones with a different route. Also it will not choose peers within the same /16 block for creating a tunnel, making it hard for one ISP to collect enough data to decrypt it. I2P also have a low bit on their keys, but we're in development of a new keysystem.

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@FiniteByDesign: If these answers didn't help, try explain what you want me to explain, and I'll do my best Smiley

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This is why Anoncoin chooses I2P in front of Tor. And currently is the only coin with support for a "real" darknet.

// Sorry Tor fans, this is just hard facts.
355  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 18, 2013, 12:29:46 PM
i am not happy about the diff retargeting. right now diff is 73 ? who will mine it at this diff?

The diff changes per block. It won't stay at 73 for long. But this happens when much hashpower is pushed to the network within a short time.

By the way, are you gonna launch Anoncoin on https://coinex.pw/ ?
356  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 16, 2013, 07:19:42 PM
http://crypto4games.com/ is accepting Anoncoin as payment from now on Smiley

Many thanks to the owner for supporting our coin!
357  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 16, 2013, 06:04:45 PM
Anoncoin 0.8.5.2 is now in the release candidate state. We're building new builds for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X after a day or two with testing and quality assurance.

Source: https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin
Pull request https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/pull/9

Note: Because of a change in the blockchain store, users using 0.8.3.7 must delete the blockchain and resync when upgrading to 0.8.5.2

ANONCOIN NET still pointing to VERsion 0.7.4.0  !!!!

Please read, as bolded above from my earlier post:
We're building new builds for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X after a day or two with testing and quality assurance.
358  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 16, 2013, 06:03:44 PM
So like around when can we expect that zero coin implementation?

how far is your zerocoin implementation?

Was just coming here to ask the same thing. Any updates?

It's still in an early stage. The first part will be implementing the early alpha of Zerocoin into the Anoncoin testnet, then comes the testing to discover bugs within Zerocoin itself that the Zerocoin devs will be working on. I would not expect a fully working zerocoin implementation until the end of the year at best. If it works flawlessly the first time around (personally I believe there's a ~1% chance of that happening) it would probably be complete during november.
359  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Official AnonCoin thread - Client Update!! (Native I2P, TOR nodes) on: September 16, 2013, 11:13:56 AM
is their a updated list of pools somewhere? network 400mhs+ yet really only see two pools with a 30-50mh's group rate?

No sorry, we're trying to get a list now.
I know of;
coinpool.in
anc.usr.in
p2pool.org

Thanks for the assistance, seems like I am mining now.. re installed cgminer and graphic drivers Smiley

Great Smiley

I want to setup an ANC pool in EU - would appreciate any help because it will be my first attempt!

Check out the mmfce-ng frontend, and on our github page you will find a working stratum server to use. Feel free to join IRC, PM me or whatever to get future help Smiley
360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Exchange with USD to 7 Alt Coins on: September 16, 2013, 09:15:30 AM
Hi,

Would you like to add Anoncoin to your exchange? Smiley

It's currently doing good on Cryptsy, but there is too many coins there now IMO.
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