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What i do not get is the fear this can create.
When people were tricked by Nigeria letters, buy drugs, buy weapons etc. Does that mean fiat should not be allowed? It is people who are stupid, and criminals that are the problem. And cash is harder to trace than bitcoin isnt it? Off course anonymous coins makes crypto as bad as cash maybe, but not worse.
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We know innocent people are convicted. That alone should be enough to not have the death penalty! Also i do not think the ones comitting murder consider that they can be sentenced to death, just look at the fantastic land of the free.. What matters for crime is the society. And when put in jail how the conditions are. Being in a Norwegian jail is a paradise compared to the US, yet the amount of criminals is lower and the reformation is more succesfull. If interested see Michael Moore visiting Norwegian jail. https://youtu.be/jDjISR5OHa4 |
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And the true bitcoin is bitcoin cash. This is the truth because it follows satoshi nakamoto's plan to scale is just to increase the MB block.
But due to crypto politics that was not followed.
Bitcoin cash is the only fork worth mentioning lately. The politics themself in bitcoin now is probably against his vision i would guess? There are so much money in it now that the idealism have a hard time winning! As bitcoin cash did not win the name it lost before it got started though. For the masses which we are trying to reach bitcoin is bitcoin. Bitcoin cash is one of thoose other coins there are thousands of. What i think is a shame is that pos is a much better option for the environmemt but that just wont happen for the original bitcoin. The miners will not agree to loose their income. Also could i ask someone more experienced, with pos could you still implement that the maximum amount of coins is the same as now in 2140 or when it was we reach the limit? |
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This may be one the first merit talk threads i liked. The changes looks good. You can say it should not be necesary, but it does not affect anyone in a negative way and makes it easier for us. The images looked good and hopefully theymos will see this. Maybe of a long standing member tip him about the thread he will notice it?
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You do see the difference in original members saying what they think about bitcoin today and technical analyses? I just assume thats what they are, did not even click your links as you are way off topic. Apart from the last post this was interesting and i hope more of the originals respond!  Wrote a long post but deleted it, im not a original member. |
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Wow that was a positive supprise! I think he should be a strong addition to the team! Do you plan on having him work on a improved miner as well? |
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Thank you and how much slower is the phi anxmod than sp? Not much, 3-5% depends of each case. Thank you for sharing that. Need a decent sized rig for it to be worth that hash. I was considering it but havent even fine tuned each card individualy for overclock so best to save the money :p |
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Hello, the bounty manager am number 304 on the spreadsheeet pls, I have not receive my reward for telegram bounty campaign.
Maybe check the spread sheet before asking they are currently at #111 |
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Hi, I thought merit would help with the spam but i still see as much crap from newbies as before. Took a look at marketplace and found out why! Jr. member accounts are being sold as well. And for third world the sum is probably quite decent. Maybe Theymos was to kind, and there should be 5 merit as requirement for jr.member. If you cant earn any merit your probably should not even be jr. member. It is hard to get merit, but 5 merit should be possible for most people over time. Unless they only post meaningless shitposts and in bounty threads off course but cant say i feel sorry for thoose  You are sounding elitetish. Just supposed you are a newbie would you in your best frame of mind suggest this? The team that worked out the merit system did a great job. That people are buying account is not because of cheap rank up to Jr member, but something else which I believe will be dealt with at the right time. If i sound eliteish there is definitely something wrong with my post! I was very frustrated yesterday when creating the post. My spot in the forum is first of all altcoins. They are what interest me the most. And that is the part with most spam i think, at least it feels like it! Could i ask which part of my post was eliteish? |
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Now i should have saved the one smerit for a better post, but that was just hilarious! |
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I agree with you. But this person has not created any merit related posts before. Check the post history.
Don't you think only 1 time is enough? Only 2 time in the very beginning of the merit system in the same thread. It is quite possible because many people played with the merits and gave merits generously those days.
You should know that a lot of Merit cheater tagged with olny 1 cheating time ) You and hua_hui are being in the same bounty campaign and hua_hui is also manager of this campaign.
Is this a fair evidence??? This one is just an additional evidence to prove that they're abusing bounty campaign by alt account. The main evidence is that they received ETH from the same ETH address. I think you should stop protecting for this guy cause hua_hui is already known as lorylore, namelessname, BlockFolksHQ. hua_hui is abusing bounty campaigns managed by himself and Fishcoin bounty campaign is an example. I just don't understand why this bounty manager still don't get tagged by DT member or Mod. Wow that was something to come back to About the 5 merit. I misunderstood and thought it would refresh every month so tested with 5 when i should have tested with 1. However i am happy with how he manages the bounties so giving him some merit for it is still justified. What should be rewarded with merit is different from user to user. The multi account possibilty is not something i knew about before now. I must say though, i dont care if the mulit account is true. As long as the posts made with alts are of good quality and not shitposts to reach the requirement. But i accept that not all see it the same way. Just like merit which i am a fan of but not alot of the new members. Actualy i am not only in the same campaign now. This is the third campaign where i have followed him. First globcoin, then PolicyPal and now fishcoin. I will do you a favor and say already i got bonus on all three of them. Globcoin extra was something the dev team told him directly. PAL and now fishcoin is because is put in alot more work than the common bounty hunter. I only choose bounties where i believe in the product, and therefor have done some research and helps keep the community informed. Not strange that i follow someone who recognize me and have bounties where i like the product? That both of us received ETH from the same address was interesting! Not sure how that happened, but the wallet does have 1017256 txns and i have only transfered ETH twice, both times from exchange directly. I do talk to him on telegram and know he is not from my country so the IP adresses should prove we are not in the same location. However VPN could be used by people with multiple accounts so dont think it actualy could help This was not really on topic but felt i had to reply. If you want to continiue the discussion and are not satisfied with my answers il gladly do so in another thread where it should be. Just PM me the link. Also thank you for the support IsuruMaduranga. And i gotta say i like your personal text, almost the same!  Edit: Checked some more transactions. It is from Kucoin, and you can see the same address sendt to other wallets which then sendt it to other exchanges. So that should end the discussion.  |
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Hi,
I thought merit would help with the spam but i still see as much crap from newbies as before.
Took a look at marketplace and found out why! Jr. member accounts are being sold as well. And for third world the sum is probably quite decent.
Here we go on blaming the third world countries again. Do you have any proof that the ones buying the accounts are from a third world country? Because you are saying that they are "quite decent"? Also nobody told us that the improvements in the forum in terms of reducing spam and shot post will be instant. This people who recently joined or still is in a low rank account still has time to improve their writing skills. We cannot expect them to adjust quickly on the new merit system right away. You got me there, as i have no proof of it being third world. It is indeed more a suspicion, which i got from other members and then agreed with. As for proof it is worth something:
Jr Member - 50+ Activity
No loans
No bans
No SMAS
Neutral Trust
No Entered Address
20 $
And 20 dollar would not be worth the work even with bots for richer countries unless they sold a very high volume. When you look at average monthly incom on poorer countries however even one account a month is quite substansial! Madagasker (33 USD), Congo (36 USD), Afghanistan (48 USD), Ethiopia (55 USD) and Nepal (61 USD) is just some examples. (Taken from worlddata.) |
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btw - Asking intelligent questions is a good contribution to the forum, but only if they haven't been answered many times in other threads.
I dont hang too much on the Meta but tried to see if this was brought up before as a suggestion. When i think back from the time i joined bitcointalk, having a requirement of merit to rank up would feel more welcoming than saying im not worthy to post everywhere. A newbie member could have watched the forum for a long time before joining and have the competence to write in all sections. That is more important to protect than being able to partake in bounties in my opinion. And something still needs to be done to get rid of all the shitposters. And if we only got the one liners from this then it would still be a huge improvement. One liners are mostly made by bots and others farming activity, not merit. As botany pointed out maybe 5 is too high. I trust Theymos in the amount, i just want something done. Saying ranks dont matter just hit me in the face though. Cause when you said it is your alt Jet Cash i suddenly felt more humble to your opinion. But may also be because i recognized the nick, and know your a member helping the forum more than i ever could. Still dont agree though |
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I don't agree. New members need to find their feet in order to earn merit. An upgrade to junior member without requiring merit provides encouragement whilst they learn the community standards at Bitcoin Talk. Restriction on the boards they can use would be far more useful than introducing a merit requirement for them.
Unfortunately many new members take their example from Mother Nature. They spray their barren seeds in as many places as they can, and they hope that one or two will bear fruit. We need to help them to learn that they will get far better results by planting their healthy posts in fertile threads. Moderators can play a part in this by ensuring that the threads remain healthy.
I dont see the logic there. Restricting boards means they cant use the forum as they may want to until earning 10 merit which can take a long time. Not gaining rank just means you will not get any bounties. Bounties are a biproduct not the reason bitcointalk was founded. And i see you got 10 merit already, and that was for good posts. I would not care about the rank on thoose posts just the quality. So restricting rank up with merits is still what i see as the best way to stop the spam. |
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For me it looks like a human maybe, as most bots ive seen have comments to "choose" from that dont include the name. But it is quite easy probably to have an algoritm sort that out. However the posts are what we want to get rid off! I hope you reported him. And there are so many bot accounts due to jr. member still being worth something and it doesnt require merit. But please dont create a topic for each bot Just report them |
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Hi, I thought merit would help with the spam but i still see as much crap from newbies as before. Took a look at marketplace and found out why! Jr. member accounts are being sold as well. And for third world the sum is probably quite decent. Maybe Theymos was to kind, and there should be 5 merit as requirement for jr.member. If you cant earn any merit your probably should not even be jr. member. It is hard to get merit, but 5 merit should be possible for most people over time. Unless they only post meaningless shitposts and in bounty threads off course but cant say i feel sorry for thoose |
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I am copying here's what's being happening in telegram, since it's not easy to follow it for people who don't want to spend hours reading through all posts.The saga goes on: Demarsac posted:Well 80% IN this post is a lie. When we started there was No website, No Windows Desktop Wallet - you know the one you ALL use, No Twitter, No Discord and No official presence, No Telegram, No security update, No Crex24 and a dying bitcointalk. All these were created by us. So since we didn't really do anything as per your post then we really have nothing to pass on right? Also ostracizing previous management and bad talking won't get you really far. Happy Easter Monday Constantin. Also why don't you really tell to the people about the time you miscalculated your math by an order of magnitude and asked me what i m doing with the community pool fee when this fee does not cover even the monthly server expense? Remember when you implied i am stealing 40$ per month? No offense but there is nothing to hand over. You can make a new website and pay like i did domains, website creation, desktop wallet, crex24 all these are money paid from my pocket. And i never asked for anything. So I replied:I guess that by now hopefully you realized what people think of you and your pathetic megalomaniac posts of yours. People have already answered to most of your false claims, but let me add a few more details to make the truth shine: 1) Discord was suggested by myself. You and lutsifer didn't think that it was a good idea (we have the transcripts of your pms) 2) You also didn't want telegram to happen, so Ingar founded it unofficially. When you realized its success, you jumped in. 3) We did recognize the security update and the crex24 listing, so implying that we didn't is a lie. 4) Bitcointalk was pretty much active, you just started a new thread. 5) A couple of days ago, you said you would step down and that anyone is willing to lead is welcome. Now you 're saying you don't step down and that there is nothing to hand over. Well, I guess that's no surprise. 6) We did offer you to be a co-equal member in the new team, despite your attitude. You disregarded our offer. 7) Regarding my miscalculation: I never claimed to be infallible. Once I realized the error, I declared that I have faith in you, a fact that you conveniently forgot to mention. Here is the transcript in Greek: Σωστός ο Βράχος! Ένα δεκαδικό μας έκανε άνω κάτω. Επειδή όλη αυτή η κουβέντα μας παρέσυρε, ας επικεντρωθούμε στα σημαντικά, δεδομένου ότι το θέμα της διαχείρισης των εισφορών θεωρώ ότι πλέον είναι εκ των ουκ άνευ, και δηλώνω καλή πίστη στο DM. You also skipped mentioning that all I was looking for was transparency in funds administration, since we were planning to donate a significant amount of zer. 8 ) A working Windows wallet was already posted by cryptosights, on November 29th, based on Vaklinov's swing wallet, just as the wallet lutsifer posted shortly after. We would have a Windows wallet even without lutsifer's wallet, which, after all is the same as cryptosight's, as lutsifer himself admitted on that same day. Also, saying that you paid for the Windows wallet, is just ridiculous. 9) Regarding the web site, which is after all simply bad looking, full of grammatical errors and and never gets updated: Guido had already paid for a domain and Ingar had already made a web site. You rejected them, and chose to go with your own, so bragging about your bad choice doesn't make you any wiser. You know, in the beginning, it looked like your intentions were pure. You were writing things like: "I do NOT own this project ZERO COMMUNITY owns this project and it belongs to the community." I guess you either never meant it or since you took over you realized you liked the chair too much, the same way politicians do in Greece, so when they get elected they forget all promised and become corrupted and arrogant. No doubt relying on a sociophobic and controlling developer such as lutsifer contributed heaps on your dictatorial stance and governance. Hi; Can I ask a question with my limited experience/knowledge? If this is really was a community takeover project, would not it be right to do at least voting for who will be in charge for managing? Kind regards That's what they promised at first, community voting and transparrancy. Seen nothing come to fruition af that kind. Instead they made a Committee consisting of the old team members that never were critical of Demarsac, and blocked all the new fresh thinkers that started all of this including me. They even blocked me from telegram and discord. These people are worse than Demarsac, at least he didn't block people and was open to people that had different opinions. Good luck on your coin, don't get wrecked here. Your comments have made me very happy i did not mine this coin! Thankfully the other one i switched (not naming it as i dont like people doing commercial on other threads) is still looking promising. |
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Hi,
Im 399 in the spread sheet. Seems i registered with name instead of the @ name. Actualy created account to be in this campaign, so was not familiar with telegram. my tag is @ginzink
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or is this a human that is writing?
