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341  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Warning! Please don't create another bubble! on: January 02, 2012, 08:55:12 PM
You simply must explain to them that there will be huge fluctuations in the value of the coins, we are going to se quite a few bubbles before things start to calm down, and there is no way for any of us to change that. It might take 5-15 years before things calm down.

342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Depth to $10 on: January 02, 2012, 08:26:23 PM
Well right now it appears we need more cashflow to support higher levels.
Though it would be very easy for billionaire or a Bank to buy up most of the Bitcoins even at a value of $30...It would not be wise. When not all coins are created and miners are willing to sell at $5...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/luisakroll/2011/12/19/billionaires-daughter-pays-record-sum-for-nyc-pad/


343  Economy / Speculation / Re: New bitcoin nodes popping up in Asia on: January 02, 2012, 08:09:49 PM
I remember a few big chinese newspapers had articles on bitcoin on their economy pages.
Ofcourse there is a difference between an article and real usage.
Though I wonder how well known they are in India. 
344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predict the price on 3/1/2012. on: January 02, 2012, 08:15:57 AM
$9
345  Economy / Speculation / Re: why is price of bitcoin rising these last few days ? on: January 02, 2012, 12:03:31 AM
It's a strange notion to use words like "should" and "artificial" on a market controlled by a fairly diverse set of humans.

It's very rare that I'll apply "artificial" to a free market, but in this case it was.  The way down was driven by a very diverse group of people, but the very bottom - the $2 that we bounced off off - was a single individual who threw down a lot of money to stop the fall, followed by spending quite a bit to pitch it back up again.  It was easily visible in the charts I posted at the time.

The price is back in the hands of the larger market now, but the bottom was not the action of a fairly diverse set of humans.



Thing is, it doesnt matter. The money was there. Next time there will be two or three times as many believing in it and as said earlier, If/when this hits the press...Means more interest, means even higer price, even more press and this time its really easy to buy much easier than any stock or gold. Anyone can buy with their creditcard...
Also together with them mentioned on the Good wife et...

For the worlds first ever cryptocurrency $5 appears to be a bargain.

346  Economy / Speculation / Re: New Contest: Guess the date for when we hit $2 again! on: January 01, 2012, 12:16:57 PM
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People talk about fundamentals and such, but the people I know who are really into technology all think Bitcoin is a joke. "Okay, cool, a cryptocurrency" they say, "but what can I do with it?" As someone else pointed out in a different thread, the people putting money into Bitcoin are just transferring their money to the miners who are selling it off to pay for hardware/electricity.

I know those kind of tech people too.

Who will need gold to save money when you can have Bitcoins?
They are simply much better.






347  Economy / Speculation / Re: why is price of bitcoin rising these last few days ? on: January 01, 2012, 11:36:13 AM
People realized that Bitcoins are not dead, plus there is a strong support for Bitcoins at $2-3.

Insider info.
http://keepyourassets.net/2011/12/23/1551/





348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price is going up again?? on: December 30, 2011, 09:33:35 PM
It wasnt a bubble because...The balance of the equilibrium had far from reached the full ofset from a point of time since bitcoins inflational exposures would have to be messured as the potential of the bottom accumulation of coins, meaning that seen from the full perspective of transactional width compared to the cost a Bitcoin bubble would look very different from a usual bubble.

Nah, it was a bubble, just joking.

349  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price is going up again?? on: December 30, 2011, 09:05:29 PM
I'm long bitcoins, with the realistic expectation that bubbles rarely reinflate.  If they do rise once again, they generally don't rise to anywhere near previous levels.  Barring some extraordinary use for bitcoins where no other method suffices, we're not going above $10 again.  It's not what super bulls want to hear, that's for sure.

Is there any historic data on bubbles in previous cryptocurrencies  Grin
It wasnt a bubble just a crash  Roll Eyes

350  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: the core problem when using Bitcoin for international money transfers on: December 30, 2011, 06:33:23 PM
In the very longterm Bitcoins gets spread among "everyone" like the dollar has, you might have been paid with some Bitcoins by someone.
Thus you probably have some Bitcoins or can get some from any of your friends or your lokal kiosk and by than there will be no need to exchange them. The people you send them to will simply use them to pay the rent or buy something on the internet, they will not go to an exchange.

But thats perhaps atleast 10 years from now, so in the shortterm Bitcoins are not a threat to Western union.
351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should we use the term FOSM? on: December 26, 2011, 09:55:46 AM
Like with software, I don't think people will care much about the Open Source aspect, but I do like the Free part in the sense that the free software guys use it (libre): that it's YOURS, unencumbered, and you are free to do what you want with it.

"Free Money" might even work better than it does for the free software guys.  Here it won't be mistaken for free-as-in-beer.

Hehe, I have read quite a few comments by people new to bitcoin who think that Bitcoins are free because you can mine them.
But in a few sences they are free, in that you can get them by mining them even if you dont have access to an exchange and that no banks or credit card can freeze them.

 








352  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dont miss the Christmas Special! December 25th on BitTalk.TV! on: December 26, 2011, 09:45:14 AM
Looking forward to the results.

353  Economy / Services / Re: Introducing the Bitcoin100: A Kickstarter for Charities on: December 24, 2011, 11:03:46 AM
But we need to think longterm.

We dont want an organisation to put up an adress, we send them our coins.

They dont get any more coins and after a few months the adress is removed.
Perhaps by someone who thinks Bitcoins are for criminals.

We need to give them one donation now and one more donation after another year.


Also a small question, how come the adress has sent some coins?
1BTC1oo1J3MEt5SFj74ZBcF2Mk97Aah4ac

Add me to the list.

354  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: My suggestions on how to make a decent client on: December 23, 2011, 08:52:35 PM
I agree about the wallet.

The client needs to be able to load and save/merge/handle wallets with different names.

But that does not mean the client sucks, its very nice work.

355  Economy / Speculation / Re: 12 million ppl will hear about bitcoin very soon on: December 22, 2011, 04:58:15 PM
They might aswell make Bitcoins look like a scam, something bad.

356  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Backing Bitcoin with People on: December 22, 2011, 04:53:07 PM
"Well, this company backs bitcoins by $0.01, so I guess they're worth just a little bit above that". This can cause a decrease in its valuation.

Good point.
357  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Backing Bitcoin with People on: December 22, 2011, 11:55:49 AM
This entire post does not make sense. The "backing" you are looking for is nothing more than a floor in the price. You can't control the price.

Yes and that makes perfekt sence, since it would be like an insurance that Bitcoins can never be totally worthless.
There is allways a floor. Ofcourse the floor should be saved in the worlds best fiat/gold and not in $.

This would really create a real confidence in Bitcoin.
 
However they can and will be traded at much higher price.

Such a floor would, if it goes grows to something like a million dollar would really make create media attention on Bitcoins it would also get wathed and reported everytime the floor grows substantially.

Everyone holding Bitcoins could have an interest in supporting such a floor.

If possible perhaps those who support the floor the most could somehow get rewarded by the community for doing so.
Perhaps by getting 50% less fees or something similar.

358  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Backing Bitcoin with People on: December 22, 2011, 07:53:22 AM
I´m willing to back Bitcoins with some of my money because I believe in it.

So how about a Bitcoin real money backing that is transparent.

So people would know that they would allways get atleast X dollars for their coins.

By putting locked money in an account.
Like a locked gold/reserve.

This means that in case of a crash you will get some money for your coins if you sell them.

For example I´m willing to put a buy order for Bitcoins for $200 and leave it at that forever.

I would not be able to get that money out ever, they should be untouchable even by me.
Only if Bitcoins value crash I would get Bitcoins for that amount.

This means that the total of all Bitcoins currently in the world is together atleast allways valued $200.

Thus creating a floor.


Now if we all set something aside to help create that floor.
And we can get 1000 people to put in $200 the value of all bitcoins would get locked to be atelast $200.000. So that would be the floor.

As more and more people contribute to the floor, the real value of Bitcoins will rise.

It would be just like a government promise to buy back your money, only a promise made by people all over the world.

And it would only start to cash out Bitcoins if atleast 90% of all available Bitcoins was put out for sale.




And as more and more people put money in some money. The floor will grow.

Thus creating a value that people understand and increasing the value of the Bitcoins.

Since some people will think.
Whatever happens to the Value of Bitcoins I will allways be able to get atleast 1/10 of my money back.

The exchanges could even have an option to set aside 0.1% of each trade to this global Bitcoin floor making the floor grow for each trade.

It would be in everyones interest to make this floor grow since it proves Bitcoins have a "real" value.

Making the traded value of Bitcoins increase.



There are just two little problems.

Where should the money be kept. It must be safe from stealing and we do not want it to ever be frozen. Perhaps a Swiss bank account?
The amount on the Bank account also needs to be visible for everyone. Even in case of a bankrun the money should not be touched.
The problems with our banks Wink Not sure if it has ever been a problem with Swiss banks though.


We also need a trusted thirdparty to make sure the money will be used to buy up Bitcoins in case of a crash and this has to be done at the time together with trusted exchanges.











People deposit money into it and the money is locked
359  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins Give Rise to Crypto Casinos on: December 21, 2011, 04:56:58 PM
Is there a REAL Casino that accepts bitcoins yet?
In other words, someone who actually runs a real online casino site that accepts bitcoins?
By Casino, I do not mean 1 or 2 games.


No there is no "real" licensed casino accepting Bitcoins yet and it will probably take some time until there is.
There are no real gaming licenses that does not require the players to register with full names, adress etc.
This is in order to prevent money laundry.

I would be very carefull to trust any casino or gambling site offering players to play without requireing this info or without a valid and recognised gaming license.

They could be shut down, take your coins etc. If there is no license there is probably no player protection.

A gaming license from Isle of Man (One of the trustworthy in the industry.) costs around £50.000 per year.




 


360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis & other financial markets (bitcoinbullbear.com) on: December 19, 2011, 07:34:13 PM
Another bubble and people would just laugh, its still to early...
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