And for the notice, the ones putting more pressure over EU are the former Soviet-ring states now EU members; Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and so on. Not USA or UK.
Don't know what the Russians did there, but those guys don't fancy Russia much.
Well, in Latvia and Lithuania USSR built a strong industrial and agricultural complex. These republics had the highest living standard in the whole of USSR, Where do you keep getting this shit from? Why do you think Lithuania doesn't like Russia much today? Because of Western propaganda? Or maybe because the Baltic states were basically just slave states, forced to export most of the produce East. Explain why the children were forced to learn Russian at school? |
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This is my final communication.
Bitcoiners , let us rejoice on this! Nobody believed that this will end before 2020 but it seems like we will get rid of him in 2014. ...
http://youtu.be/rXyZCZd9v0U
 Boring! If he's so smart, then why was he dumb enough to get himself locked up? No, don't answer that. |
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Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs state that Ukrainian powers will be held directly responsible for any future shelling of Russian soil.
[yet another *.ru propaganda link]
When will the Russians be held responsible for their crimes? For many months you and you friends have been constantly posting pro-Russian bullshit and lies. It makes me sick. Get out of your mother's basement and get a real job. When will the leaders of your so-called "Lugansk People's Republic" be arrested and tried for the international war crime of shooting down a civilian aircraft? Enough of the bullshit about "waiting for an official investigation". You mean a Russian investigation? Get fucked. It's fucking obvious that the Lugansk guys -- you know, the "independence fighters" patrolling Lugansk with Russian weapons -- are the ones responsible. They the obvious prime suspects, but everyone's just being polite about it because they're terrified that the dictator Putin wants to start a real war. There is already an official international investigation on behalf of ICAO into the causes of the Malaysian airliner take-down. So let's just wait the results of this investigation (and don't forget to update your manuals). http://www.icao.int/Newsroom/Pages/ICAO-accident-investigation-team-begins-Ukraine-assistance-mission.aspxYeah but if the Russian 'side' wins, that will just give those patriots even more emotional drive and ambition to attack Ukraine even more. If the Russian 'side' loses, they will simply point at the same problems that Bitcoin tries to solve, regarding majority rules, "might is right", anarchic justice and so on. They will complain that they are poor victims again/as usual, that the more powerful West has gone unpunished... See? The bullshit never ends. |
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Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs state that Ukrainian powers will be held directly responsible for any future shelling of Russian soil.
[yet another *.ru propaganda link]
When will the Russians be held responsible for their crimes? For many months you and you friends have been constantly posting pro-Russian bullshit and lies. It makes me sick. Get out of your mother's basement and get a real job. When will the leaders of your so-called "Lugansk People's Republic" be arrested and tried for the international war crime of shooting down a civilian aircraft? Enough of the bullshit about "waiting for an official investigation". You mean a Russian investigation? Get fucked. It's fucking obvious that the Lugansk guys -- you know, the "independence fighters" patrolling Lugansk with Russian weapons -- are the ones responsible. They the obvious prime suspects, but everyone's just being polite about it because they're terrified that the dictator Putin wants to start a real war. By the way, what's the story with independent bloggers in Russia? Are some of them still alive? And inb4 you mention America. I don't give a shit. I don't live there and I don't care about their crap. Now, does the phrase "I'm sorry, I apologise for Russian crimes" even exist in Russian? Perhaps Stalin deleted those words from the dictionary? because Google translate doesn't seem to be working for me. |
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So, it appears that it's not enough to just search through everyone's private facebook, skype, and other social media conversations for terrorism catch words like let's blow them sky high, or it's time to drown the eagle, or so r we gonna kill Obama or not? Make up ur minds lol. It turns out that Team America still have to actually read the conversations, which, understandably, poses difficulties for them.
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And you weren't there, and you believed Russian news sources that told you how nice and noble the Russian soldiers were. Is there anything new under the sun?
Since when did reports from the EU and OSCE became pro-Russia? Politics 101. Sometimes you turn a "blind eye" when your crazy nuclear-armed economic partner/rival with an ego-maniacal leader attacks a small country. |
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Were you there?
At least I could read and write, so I was able to read the reports made by the neutral organizations like the European Union, OSCE.etc. Do you want a web link to their reports? So they're neutral when they support Russian politics, and evil "Kiev junta" supporting Obama puppets when they don't support Russian politics. And you weren't there, and you believed Russian news sources that told you how nice and noble the Russian soldiers were. Is there anything new under the sun? |
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And I though you did you homework on the gas wars history since 1992. you use backwards logic. No one forced Ukraine to each and every time demand cheaper gas. If they wanted to be independent, they should have taken the responsibility.
Poor Russia, how are they coping with Ukraine's bullying?  |
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Russia has again urged the Kiev junta to allow the distribution of humanitarian aid in the Donbass region. Ukraine silent as Russia offers humanitarian aid for Donetsk, Luhansk regionshttp://en.itar-tass.com/world/734519Russia volunteering humanitarian aid for the Ukraine is like a drug dealer volunteering to hand out some free needles at the needle exchange programme. |
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"break the buyer's legs to get him into debt" - that's just stupid! Stop paying your electricity bill for a few months and see where it gets you.
It's called usury.... Wikipedia usuryObviously you don't want to completely 'kill' the borrower, just rough them up a little. Think of it as a financial investment. 1) You put in a little bit more effort at the start (breaking legs) 2) It's temporarily more difficult for the borrower to pay off their debt. The debt grows exponentially, and they have to work much harder to pay it off. 3) Profit! I thought you Russians were "well educated"...   |
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That sentence was meant as a sarcastic remark, please don't twist it. It fully covers the impression one gets when watching the gas wars from the sidelines: Ukraine: Give us cheap gas as in the SU days! Russia: You'll be paying the market price, live everyone else. Ukraine: No, you must give the gas for cheap, or we will not like you even more! See the pattern?  But I thought they wanted to join the Soviets, oops I mean, the "Eurasian Economic Union"? And it's just the evil coup-leaders in Kiev who are stopping them? Russia is a Mafia. Just selling gas 'honestly' is not enough. They must break the buyer's legs to get him into debt, so that he will spend the rest of his life paying it off, even if he's hardly using any gas at all. |
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And now Russia claims that the plague is back on Ukraina and of course the army is behind ... what will be the next lie ?
This sentence identifies you as a troll. Welcome to the company of Pagan.  Maybe it takes one to know one? Mr. "I sincerely believe Russia wants to helpfully wean Ukraine off the cheap gas"? Yeah, and the Arabs recruited Al Qaida to assist the West in transitioning to greener energy. |
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UN has been sending peacekeeping forces to some places that you'll be hard-pressed finding on the map. Yet the topic of sending peacekeepers to Ukraine is a taboo. Makes you think, eh?
As for humanitarian aid. Russia requested permission to do so, and was denied. It is now pushing this through UN Security Council.
LOL! Have you ever seen a rich person in the city, attacking a homeless guy and shouting "stop resisting! Just let me give you the bloody money!" No? Me neither. Or how about a drug dealer trying to inject an "unreliable" customer with more drugs to keep him hooked? Yeah, that sounds more like what Russia is trying to do to the Ukraine. |
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And who the fuck are the "self defence forces"?
Defending what? They want an independent, new, country between Russia and the Ukraine?
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Ukrainian fighter jets have bombed the administration building in Lugansk city, causing dozens of deaths and injuries. Details are still being awaited. A large number of people are trapped inside the building, which is currently on fire. http://rt.com/news/163076-ukraine-lugansk-clashes-jet/the self-defense forces at the moment report one fatality and 10 people sustaining injuries. At least five people have been killed in the attack dozens of deaths and injuries
Next week... Russia sends "humanitarian aid" to defend its borders against the crazy Ukrainians committing genocide against their own people. ?? |
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It seems ironic that the communists were so sensitive, like royalty. This sensitivity is part of what led to their downfall. There was also the financial incompetence, which could have led to some kind of inferiority complex... But, as you can see, trying to silence criticism and opposition was a fatal mistake.
Actually, you are not too far from truth there. They were communists in name only. They de facto continued the system of monarchy, only with a much stronger oppression apparatus. I hadn't considered that it wasn't accidental. Thanks for that thought! And I guess your earlier point has some merit, since the EU is not a country and the usual nationalism and cultural coherence doesn't apply. Apart from some polite flag-waving on government buildings, there seems to be very little 'love' for the EU. Please take my point about the negative feedback as a helpful hint. ;-) |
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Economic cooperation is always a good thing. It makes hostility less likely. I suspect this move might be more about Putin's dreams of restoring the Soviet empire but time will tell.
It makes hostility less likely? What? Have a look at the European union. The eurosceptics are increasing, hostility towards the union even comes from within it now. Because EU has grown from being an economic/trade union to a political/centristic union. EU in its current form is not far from what Soviet Union was. As you can see, anyone can say whatever shit they want about the EU. There's criticism everywhere. This freedom and openness is the extreme opposite of the fearful East European culture pre-dating the 1990s. It seems ironic that the communists were so sensitive, like royalty. This sensitivity is part of what led to their downfall. There was also the financial incompetence, which could have led to some kind of inferiority complex... But, as you can see, trying to silence criticism and opposition was a fatal mistake. |
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Economic cooperation is always a good thing. It makes hostility less likely. I suspect this move might be more about Putin's dreams of restoring the Soviet empire but time will tell.
It makes hostility less likely? What? Have a look at the European union. The eurosceptics are increasing, hostility towards the union even comes from within it now. You can't have a stable system without negative feedback. Perhaps you and your Russian compatriots should show a bit more concern about Putin's high popularity? Shouldn't there be at least a couple of strong competitors with around 20% to 30% support? Are there any real opposition parties? Are there any protests about things (real, important things) that the Russian people disagree with and want their government to do differently? |
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Global GDP? Who cares. The important bit there is the percentage of GDP constituted by the trade with the neighbouring countries. Glad you agree! Russian GDP in 2013: $2.1T~$2.55T European Union GDP in 2013: ~$16.5T Although economic size should not be the only factor, there's a simple argument that if the Ukraine increases its trade with the EU, the potential gains for the Ukraine could far outweigh the financial losses on the Russian side. And whose side are you on anyway? When Russians shed crocodile tears about "Ukrainian" trading losses, we must remember that Russians are not a neutral party to the debate. They, Russia, are trying to make a profit by being the other trading partner! Paraphrasing some of the Russian sentiment: "oh my god, the evil IMF and bankers will enslave the Ukraine. But when they have 'free trade' with Russia instead, it's all effin sunshine and rainbows." See adjacent thread...No. Just look at the Ukrain's current economic status, even ignoring all the fighting. 1) The hryvnia is complete shit 2) Everyone is dirt poor, 3) and yet that 60% trade with Russia is somehow Ukraine's saving grace that makes it all better? Translating: 1) The Ukrainians are mostly working for Russia. 2) The average Ukrainian is really poor, and don't forget that gas usury. 3) Therefore, the Ukrainians are slaves to Russia. |
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