I can offer a compromise:
I have here some reputation during my work for several coins and pro bono work here in the forum. In the German section I am even more (well-)known. In real life I am a lawyer and I am really public as a Person (Postal address etc.) So if I would confirm that Mr. Rettig is existing and plan to work for opair, you could be pretty sure, that this is like that.
I am offering the opair ICO to make a confidental video chat for free. Mr. Rettig can proof everything. I will keep this chat confidental and just tell the audiance here, if I am convinced that there is a Mr. Rettig existing and he will contribute to opair or not.
I think, this is a very smart solution. If Mr. Rettig don't want to invest this 15min in the ICO, why anyone should do this with a single satoshi?
Wasserman, i appreciate you have changed your mind and try to offer escrow from now. That will help a lot. I do not understand what the obsession with seeing the face of Frank. Even Frank could be anyone, that does not interest me. I just want the platform to be successful. I never knew or will know who is Nakamoto and I do not care. Do not worry about the trolls, fudders gonna FUD! Dude, we dont have the obsession of seeing his face. We have the obsession of saving people from scam. Why the hell cant he arranged for an interview? Leave video interview, cant he take out time for a radio interview... U tell me? |
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I am in for the sig campaign
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this project not even started but dev is no where to find, just hope that they will proceed on this
i seen that there's already members who invested for this it will be a big lost for those who
trust the project.
PLEASE EVERYONE, READ THIS!I dont know what do you. There is a group of people who complain about things that were already clear before the ICO. We will not change our rules. We are no more bad (or good) for using or not escrow. But to show what we can do, we need time. We are still in the ICO phase. We are overwhelmed. Although If I answer them they will continue writing lies. The project are being killing by this campaign. The worst thing is that some users who do not know our project, they think we are a scam because those users say it. It is a vicious circle. The main point of the matter is that some users want to use escrow and want a video session. - About the video, if Hao and Frank are exposed it (with videos, etc) is now very likely that also these users start a campaign against them (without any reasons) and affect their personal work, because as we will not get our goals if they continue with the campaign against us, so they will going to follow his normal lives in those jobs and not working full time on Opair. With the money raised until now we will be able to work only two months at most. Our project is in ethereum or lisk scale for things that we want to do (look our key features, we present things nobody had done until now), so we need an adequate amount, we can’t do it all that features without funds. Do you understand? Thus, we are now looking at what is best for everyone.
- About the escrow, we believe that using an escrow adds nothing to our proposal. We are going to 100% with Opair, giving our identities from the beginning, because we trust in what we do. And we risk that the escrow, which is a person we do not know, decide not to release the funds. You have to keep in mind, there were many large projects that did not use escrow (eth-lisk) given the legitimacy of its creators. On the other hand, there are many people here in the forum using fake escrow, as you well know. In short, that led us to make this decision
This campaign againt us is totally unfair for us and for the investors. It seems that these guys want me to go to believe that they were right. It's sick. But we will show theirs the opposite. I'll stay here and I'm not going nowhere as they say. Regards You are saying two things at the same time... 1st is that Frank and Hao will not work full time in this project 2nd they are busy in their personal work How the hell you meant to have a working project if both of them are busy in their jobs, instead of opair.... And yes, if they do work, there is no harm in an interview.... on weekend, when they are free.... 1. Yes, our plan is that both of them working full time afther the ICO ends, but we need funds to do that. 2. Its right, currently they have another fulltime jobs to care. Now, that is great. To add more greatness into the project, you can do a radio talk show during the ICO period.... Like bitcointalkradio, letstalkbitcoin.. I mean this is far more better than a video if you are concerned about Frank n Hao privacy I hope you can agree on the radio talk show |
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this project not even started but dev is no where to find, just hope that they will proceed on this
i seen that there's already members who invested for this it will be a big lost for those who
trust the project.
PLEASE EVERYONE, READ THIS!I dont know what do you. There is a group of people who complain about things that were already clear before the ICO. We will not change our rules. We are no more bad (or good) for using or not escrow. But to show what we can do, we need time. We are still in the ICO phase. We are overwhelmed. Although If I answer them they will continue writing lies. The project are being killing by this campaign. The worst thing is that some users who do not know our project, they think we are a scam because those users say it. It is a vicious circle. The main point of the matter is that some users want to use escrow and want a video session. - About the video, if Hao and Frank are exposed it (with videos, etc) is now very likely that also these users start a campaign against them (without any reasons) and affect their personal work, because as we will not get our goals if they continue with the campaign against us, so they will going to follow his normal lives in those jobs and not working full time on Opair. With the money raised until now we will be able to work only two months at most. Our project is in ethereum or lisk scale for things that we want to do (look our key features, we present things nobody had done until now), so we need an adequate amount, we can’t do it all that features without funds. Do you understand? Thus, we are now looking at what is best for everyone.
- About the escrow, we believe that using an escrow adds nothing to our proposal. We are going to 100% with Opair, giving our identities from the beginning, because we trust in what we do. And we risk that the escrow, which is a person we do not know, decide not to release the funds. You have to keep in mind, there were many large projects that did not use escrow (eth-lisk) given the legitimacy of its creators. On the other hand, there are many people here in the forum using fake escrow, as you well know. In short, that led us to make this decision
This campaign againt us is totally unfair for us and for the investors. It seems that these guys want me to go to believe that they were right. It's sick. But we will show theirs the opposite. I'll stay here and I'm not going nowhere as they say. Regards I guarantee I will invest if the project shows legit, and won't say negative about this project. Do you think this situation is made by yourself?? You refused to show us the proofs and talked some illogical excuse like "threat to devs". Since you have published their linkedin, you should shouw their legit info, that's the key to solve current situation, unless your devs info are real fake, therefore you won't publish the hangout/interview. SCAMMER DEV deleted my post again ofc  İ wont let you fuck more people no chance mate. Make a live stream video with the devs and i swear to god i will invest 10 btc :)CMON MATE 10 SECONDS VİDEO  And we will make sure that kellendil that does not threatned anyone And ya, i will invest too, if you are legit.... |
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this project not even started but dev is no where to find, just hope that they will proceed on this
i seen that there's already members who invested for this it will be a big lost for those who
trust the project.
PLEASE EVERYONE, READ THIS!I dont know what do you. There is a group of people who complain about things that were already clear before the ICO. We will not change our rules. We are no more bad (or good) for using or not escrow. But to show what we can do, we need time. We are still in the ICO phase. We are overwhelmed. Although If I answer them they will continue writing lies. The project are being killing by this campaign. The worst thing is that some users who do not know our project, they think we are a scam because those users say it. It is a vicious circle. The main point of the matter is that some users want to use escrow and want a video session. - About the video, if Hao and Frank are exposed it (with videos, etc) is now very likely that also these users start a campaign against them (without any reasons) and affect their personal work, because as we will not get our goals if they continue with the campaign against us, so they will going to follow his normal lives in those jobs and not working full time on Opair. With the money raised until now we will be able to work only two months at most. Our project is in ethereum or lisk scale for things that we want to do (look our key features, we present things nobody had done until now), so we need an adequate amount, we can’t do it all that features without funds. Do you understand? Thus, we are now looking at what is best for everyone.
- About the escrow, we believe that using an escrow adds nothing to our proposal. We are going to 100% with Opair, giving our identities from the beginning, because we trust in what we do. And we risk that the escrow, which is a person we do not know, decide not to release the funds. You have to keep in mind, there were many large projects that did not use escrow (eth-lisk) given the legitimacy of its creators. On the other hand, there are many people here in the forum using fake escrow, as you well know. In short, that led us to make this decision
This campaign againt us is totally unfair for us and for the investors. It seems that these guys want me to go to believe that they were right. It's sick. But we will show theirs the opposite. I'll stay here and I'm not going nowhere as they say. Regards You are saying two things at the same time... 1st is that Frank and Hao will not work full time in this project 2nd they are busy in their personal work How the hell you meant to have a working project if both of them are busy in their jobs, instead of opair.... And yes, if they do work, there is no harm in an interview.... on weekend, when they are free.... |
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I can't find a thread for a twitter bounty, did you guys have one  There was no bounty for anything... |
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I am trying to calculate ico price in usd. Is 1.18 usd right price? 177k sat per pluton right?
Yup.. you are right |
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@wasserman...ok, no need to identify yourself, I am sure you have your reasons..
So, basically, you guys will never give an interview if you, Frank and Hao feel threatened by a private message of a user....
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Some points that were discussed in our Slack:
1) (about the hangout) It's an idea, we are not sure and less now. You have to understand that both Frank and Hao, have jobs in major companies. With what has happened is very difficult to reach the 700 BTC ideals we wanted as minimum. Not our fault, because everything we have warned before (escrow). Is it our fault that two investors do not read the rules? Of course not! So if Hao and Frank are exposed it (with videos, etc) is now very likely that also these users start a campaign against them (without any reasons) and affect their personal work, because as we will not get 700 BTC if they continue with the campaign against us, so they will going to follow his normal lives in those jobs and not working full time on Opair. With the money raised until now we will be able to work only two months at most. Our project is in ethereum or lisk scale for things that we want to do (look our key features, we present things nobody had done until now), so we need an adequate amount, we can’t do it all that features without funds. Do you understand? Thus, we are now looking at what is best for everyone.
2) (about the campaign againt us) These people are doing it all wrong with their campaign against us. If we were a scam as they say (WE ARE NOT!!), they would be helping us because it will end up being them who kill the project and therefore those responsible; and not us.
Following their logic, they are hurting himself and affecting our investors. Cancel is not an option because we want Opair become a reality. We will adapt to the funds that we get.
3) (about escrow again) We said like a million times our reasons and there were a lot of projects (even big) that didnt use an escrow. It is not an obligation. We decided not to do that and we announced it in our thread, in the FIRST POST. Please read
4) Kellendil (Neutronus on slack) was banned from this thread and our slack because he has threatened us by private message.
Regards
@wasserman, why would people campaign against Frank and Hao, if they exposed themselves.. Any reason of your logic?? |
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Would love to see an act of kindness from the dev himself. Put up a video and we will like to rate by investing in your ICO |
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. It is a plan and working project with promising features so not yet being released . You are either noob or lack of knowledge about the word PRE - and Im not an alter ego of the dev. Just exploring the technology of blockchain and what are the potentials it may bring. I know that all you want is to gain as soon as possible. In a blockchain platform minimum adoption would take 2 years. So I 'll always give a chance that my instinct tells me . I don't judge by mere presentation. I judge by reaction. Of course, everyone here is for profit, not loss. This is not a donation.. But again crypto is unpredictable. Now coming to OPAIR, lets say this is work in progress. Is it not possible for the lead dev of the project to update us on work that he is doing, I mean not on daily basis but weekly.... Its the fucking ICO phase!! What do you dont understand? They already made an amazing platform on his web, more, at this stage, they cant do. Haha, dont mind, I get a feeling you are wasserman.... Chill dude, why are you frustated, Is it so, that you invested a lot and now regretting I'm just an investor, but as i said before, today the project are affecting more for users that the Opair team. Currently they can not do anything, they are at the ICO stage. Once they finished we will can judge whether or not met his promises. And yes, i invested a lot of money and do not want to lose by one children who can not read a few simple rules. Agreed, there are lots of noobs or ICO flippers who will invest without reading anything. But it is the duty of the community to help each other and look out for scams. I am not saying OPAIR is scam. But most of us who love to see who is wasserman, their interviews and how is their development going. Right now, to clear all the FUDs, the most important thing right now, is have a interview or google hangout. Just to see, are we really dealing with Frank or Hao...@kooke, I think you can agree on that |
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. It is a plan and working project with promising features so not yet being released . You are either noob or lack of knowledge about the word PRE - and Im not an alter ego of the dev. Just exploring the technology of blockchain and what are the potentials it may bring. I know that all you want is to gain as soon as possible. In a blockchain platform minimum adoption would take 2 years. So I 'll always give a chance that my instinct tells me . I don't judge by mere presentation. I judge by reaction. Of course, everyone here is for profit, not loss. This is not a donation.. But again crypto is unpredictable. Now coming to OPAIR, lets say this is work in progress. Is it not possible for the lead dev of the project to update us on work that he is doing, I mean not on daily basis but weekly.... Its the fucking ICO phase!! What do you dont understand? They already made an amazing platform on his web, more, at this stage, they cant do. Haha, dont mind, I get a feeling you are wasserman.... Chill dude, why are you frustated, Is it so, that you invested a lot and now regretting |
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. It is a plan and working project with promising features so not yet being released . You are either noob or lack of knowledge about the word PRE - and Im not an alter ego of the dev. Just exploring the technology of blockchain and what are the potentials it may bring. I know that all you want is to gain as soon as possible. In a blockchain platform minimum adoption would take 2 years. So I 'll always give a chance that my instinct tells me . I don't judge by mere presentation. I judge by reaction. Of course, everyone here is for profit, not loss. This is not a donation.. But again crypto is unpredictable. Now coming to OPAIR, lets say this is work in progress. Is it not possible for the lead dev of the project to update us on work that he is doing, I mean not on daily basis but weekly.... |
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Read this guys: I wanna said this again:
"I will speak as the investor of this project that I am. As several users have noted above there are points that would have been better if they were different (such as using escrow) but as he said wasserman99 everything was clarified and public before the ICO, which there is no complaint possible. That was the Opair proposal and I decided to invest equally like others, even knowing these points because I was attracted by the proposed project. I'm glad to invest here and I'm sure this project will go far. We are already adults and before investing our own money we must do due diligence about that points. So now please stop with the drama. If you want to invest, do it, or not it's your own decision.
Please take a look at the ICO platform, it is the most transparent i saw in this forum. You can see at any time all statistics, including your balance and price per coin, which is updated as more people invest. Everything run smoothly. For suspicious people, make yourselves an account on the platform and try it on your own. That's a great test of experience and knowledge of this team. If the final release has much quality as the platform it will be a success. If they could do that without money, with the money raise from the ICO the sky is the limit."
Moreover, if any user wants to do drama/fud/etc you can create your own thread. Here it is to discuss Opair and its evolution, not on issues that were already cleared a thousand times. If you do not like the rules that they put, dont invest, END. SIMPLY LIKE THAT! but i do not want that investment i ve made in this project, which was big, it is affected by fools users who can not read a few simple rules. Each is responsible for where you decide to invest and, before doing so, they must perform due diligence, which is in this case they didnt. NOOBS!
In short, I am more affected by the actions of these fools users than the dev, since neither has completed the ICO, which we can not know if they will achieve fulfill everything they have promised.
Have wasserman talked about doing interviews, I mean look at the OP annoucement, - We are seeking to make as many interviews as possible with the crypto - fintech press. It's time to spread the word. - We believe that using an escrow adds nothing to our proposal. We are going to 100% with Opair, giving our identities from the beginning, because we trust in what we do. And we risk that the escrow, which is a person we do not know, decide not to release the funds. You have to keep in mind, there were many large projects that did not use escrow given the legitimacy of its creators. On the other hand, there are many people here in the forum using fake escrow, as you well know. In short, that led us to make this decision. Why is he hiding his identity, since he said giving out identities from the beginning.. Just saying  |
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my 5 cents :
I do believe that the oroject is leget, however my advice to the OP is so:
Crypto is all about the community, and if you would like this project to succeed i guess you should first of all reveal your identity as people ask, then reveal the btc adress to where the funds are going and a something along the lines of a google hangout would be great.
As for the escrow, thats not 1 million % neccassey, but defently makes the project more secure.
I already invested (a small sum), but if i see that this project will listen tot he community, i am willing to invest more as im sure will others too
Exactly, a google hangout or a interview would be best with Frank or Hao |
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The dev also didn't use escrow for the funds, this will be a very no-no sign for investors really. The fact that there are already scam coins existing before Opair so this is a warning to all.
Yeah, cause escrow has protected us so much in the past... But at least it give investors a peace of mind in the dev is acting fishy like this one from Opair scam. They refuse to make refunds so how can you trust them? Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion. Lets not call it a scam too quick. Since all the members involved in the project have identified themselves, I think wasserman can too, if the project is legit, he has nothing to worry about... I think people can agree on this.. Best, the founder and the developer can do a google hangout or a interview... |
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I guess we can have the BTC address to know where all the bitcoins are accumulated. This would be a bit transparent..
@wasserman, it is possible to reveal your identity since it will create a goodwill and trust for the coin, silencing at the FUD and scam talks.
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Just went through the thread. Is it true that you havent considered for a interview.. Hope you dont delete this message..  |
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