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The dev also didn't use escrow for the funds, this will be a very no-no sign for investors really. The fact that there are already scam coins existing before Opair so this is a warning to all.
Yeah, cause escrow has protected us so much in the past... But at least it give investors a peace of mind in the dev is acting fishy like this one from Opair scam. They refuse to make refunds so how can you trust them? Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion. |
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The dev also didn't use escrow for the funds, this will be a very no-no sign for investors really. The fact that there are already scam coins existing before Opair so this is a warning to all.
Yeah, cause escrow has protected us so much in the past... But at least it give investors a peace of mind in the dev is acting fishy like this one from Opair scam. They refuse to make refunds so how can you trust them? Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion. Lets not call it a scam too quick. Since all the members involved in the project have identified themselves, I think wasserman can too, if the project is legit, he has nothing to worry about... I think people can agree on this.. Best, the founder and the developer can do a google hangout or a interview... |
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There legit coin dev team who discloses themselves but still turned out to scam in the end. so wasserman has to explain himself here as possibilities are very high knowing he didn't use escrow and don't even show himself. This just means he is hiding something.
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July 31, 2016, 09:17:28 AM |
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There legit coin dev team who discloses themselves but still turned out to scam in the end. so wasserman has to explain himself here as possibilities are very high knowing he didn't use escrow and don't even show himself. This just means he is hiding something.
And even if he will identify himself, u can do nothing when he scam people. Even with a picture and identity u can do nothing. What u want to do after he scam you and u got a picture from him?Go to the police and say: i get scammed? Police will ask you: how u get scammed? You will say: well somebody asked for bitcoins, and i give him the bitcoins Police will say: then ur a dumbass, ur a fool, its ur own mistake, bye bye What opair is doing, is sort of a legit way to scam people. Why? He just ask for bitcoins, and people give him bitcoins. It's allowed by the law. People what give OPAIR money are just brainless, there is no law to protect those brainless people.... Is it bad? YEs it is, that's why nobody should give other people bitcoins like this. They simply ask for money, people simply gave there money.... There is no legit contract what both sides are accepting, there is nothing what u can do when the dev runs away with all the bitcoins, even not with a picture from a random google guy. |
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July 31, 2016, 12:25:19 PM |
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Yeah he banned me too  He cant answer the question about the interview because the devs dont exist |
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July 31, 2016, 12:53:25 PM |
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. |
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July 31, 2016, 01:00:52 PM |
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Read this guys: I wanna said this again:
"I will speak as the investor of this project that I am. As several users have noted above there are points that would have been better if they were different (such as using escrow) but as he said wasserman99 everything was clarified and public before the ICO, which there is no complaint possible. That was the Opair proposal and I decided to invest equally like others, even knowing these points because I was attracted by the proposed project. I'm glad to invest here and I'm sure this project will go far. We are already adults and before investing our own money we must do due diligence about that points. So now please stop with the drama. If you want to invest, do it, or not it's your own decision.
Please take a look at the ICO platform, it is the most transparent i saw in this forum. You can see at any time all statistics, including your balance and price per coin, which is updated as more people invest. Everything run smoothly. For suspicious people, make yourselves an account on the platform and try it on your own. That's a great test of experience and knowledge of this team. If the final release has much quality as the platform it will be a success. If they could do that without money, with the money raise from the ICO the sky is the limit."
Moreover, if any user wants to do drama/fud/etc you can create your own thread. Here it is to discuss Opair and its evolution, not on issues that were already cleared a thousand times. If you do not like the rules that they put, dont invest, END. SIMPLY LIKE THAT! but i do not want that investment i ve made in this project, which was big, it is affected by fools users who can not read a few simple rules. Each is responsible for where you decide to invest and, before doing so, they must perform due diligence, which is in this case they didnt. NOOBS!
In short, I am more affected by the actions of these fools users than the dev, since neither has completed the ICO, which we can not know if they will achieve fulfill everything they have promised.
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Read this guys: I wanna said this again:
"I will speak as the investor of this project that I am. As several users have noted above there are points that would have been better if they were different (such as using escrow) but as he said wasserman99 everything was clarified and public before the ICO, which there is no complaint possible. That was the Opair proposal and I decided to invest equally like others, even knowing these points because I was attracted by the proposed project. I'm glad to invest here and I'm sure this project will go far. We are already adults and before investing our own money we must do due diligence about that points. So now please stop with the drama. If you want to invest, do it, or not it's your own decision.
Please take a look at the ICO platform, it is the most transparent i saw in this forum. You can see at any time all statistics, including your balance and price per coin, which is updated as more people invest. Everything run smoothly. For suspicious people, make yourselves an account on the platform and try it on your own. That's a great test of experience and knowledge of this team. If the final release has much quality as the platform it will be a success. If they could do that without money, with the money raise from the ICO the sky is the limit."
Moreover, if any user wants to do drama/fud/etc you can create your own thread. Here it is to discuss Opair and its evolution, not on issues that were already cleared a thousand times. If you do not like the rules that they put, dont invest, END. SIMPLY LIKE THAT! but i do not want that investment i ve made in this project, which was big, it is affected by fools users who can not read a few simple rules. Each is responsible for where you decide to invest and, before doing so, they must perform due diligence, which is in this case they didnt. NOOBS!
In short, I am more affected by the actions of these fools users than the dev, since neither has completed the ICO, which we can not know if they will achieve fulfill everything they have promised.
Have wasserman talked about doing interviews, I mean look at the OP annoucement, - We are seeking to make as many interviews as possible with the crypto - fintech press. It's time to spread the word. - We believe that using an escrow adds nothing to our proposal. We are going to 100% with Opair, giving our identities from the beginning, because we trust in what we do. And we risk that the escrow, which is a person we do not know, decide not to release the funds. You have to keep in mind, there were many large projects that did not use escrow given the legitimacy of its creators. On the other hand, there are many people here in the forum using fake escrow, as you well know. In short, that led us to make this decision. Why is he hiding his identity, since he said giving out identities from the beginning.. Just saying  |
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July 31, 2016, 01:11:20 PM |
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Read this guys: I wanna said this again:
"I will speak as the investor of this project that I am. As several users have noted above there are points that would have been better if they were different (such as using escrow) but as he said wasserman99 everything was clarified and public before the ICO, which there is no complaint possible. That was the Opair proposal and I decided to invest equally like others, even knowing these points because I was attracted by the proposed project. I'm glad to invest here and I'm sure this project will go far. We are already adults and before investing our own money we must do due diligence about that points. So now please stop with the drama. If you want to invest, do it, or not it's your own decision.
Please take a look at the ICO platform, it is the most transparent i saw in this forum. You can see at any time all statistics, including your balance and price per coin, which is updated as more people invest. Everything run smoothly. For suspicious people, make yourselves an account on the platform and try it on your own. That's a great test of experience and knowledge of this team. If the final release has much quality as the platform it will be a success. If they could do that without money, with the money raise from the ICO the sky is the limit."
Moreover, if any user wants to do drama/fud/etc you can create your own thread. Here it is to discuss Opair and its evolution, not on issues that were already cleared a thousand times. If you do not like the rules that they put, dont invest, END. SIMPLY LIKE THAT! but i do not want that investment i ve made in this project, which was big, it is affected by fools users who can not read a few simple rules. Each is responsible for where you decide to invest and, before doing so, they must perform due diligence, which is in this case they didnt. NOOBS!
In short, I am more affected by the actions of these fools users than the dev, since neither has completed the ICO, which we can not know if they will achieve fulfill everything they have promised.
Have wasserman talked about doing interviews, I mean look at the OP annoucement, - We are seeking to make as many interviews as possible with the crypto - fintech press. It's time to spread the word. - We believe that using an escrow adds nothing to our proposal. We are going to 100% with Opair, giving our identities from the beginning, because we trust in what we do. And we risk that the escrow, which is a person we do not know, decide not to release the funds. You have to keep in mind, there were many large projects that did not use escrow given the legitimacy of its creators. On the other hand, there are many people here in the forum using fake escrow, as you well know. In short, that led us to make this decision. Why is he hiding his identity, since he said giving out identities from the beginning.. Just saying In addition Frank's identity is no more than a random name at this point, I cannot find any traces of that name online. |
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July 31, 2016, 01:12:06 PM |
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. It is a plan and working project with promising features so not yet being released . You are either noob or lack of knowledge about the word PRE - and Im not an alter ego of the dev. Just exploring the technology of blockchain and what are the potentials it may bring. I know that all you want is to gain as soon as possible. In a blockchain platform minimum adoption would take 2 years. So I 'll always give a chance that my instinct tells me . I don't judge by mere presentation. I judge by reaction. |
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July 31, 2016, 01:17:44 PM |
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. It is a plan and working project with promising features so not yet being released . You are either noob or lack of knowledge about the word PRE - and Im not an alter ego of the dev. Just exploring the technology of blockchain and what are the potentials it may bring. I know that all you want is to gain as soon as possible. In a blockchain platform minimum adoption would take 2 years. So I 'll always give a chance that my instinct tells me . I don't judge by mere presentation. I judge by reaction. Of course, everyone here is for profit, not loss. This is not a donation.. But again crypto is unpredictable. Now coming to OPAIR, lets say this is work in progress. Is it not possible for the lead dev of the project to update us on work that he is doing, I mean not on daily basis but weekly.... |
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July 31, 2016, 01:19:17 PM |
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. It is a plan and working project with promising features so not yet being released . You are either noob or lack of knowledge about the word PRE - and Im not an alter ego of the dev. Just exploring the technology of blockchain and what are the potentials it may bring. I know that all you want is to gain as soon as possible. In a blockchain platform minimum adoption would take 2 years. So I 'll always give a chance that my instinct tells me . I don't judge by mere presentation. I judge by reaction. Of course, everyone here is for profit, not loss. This is not a donation.. But again crypto is unpredictable. Now coming to OPAIR, lets say this is work in progress. Is it not possible for the lead dev of the project to update us on work that he is doing, I mean not on daily basis but weekly.... Its the fucking ICO phase!! What do you dont understand? They already made an amazing platform on his web, more, at this stage, they cant do. |
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You need to press for more information than you were given as investors. I'm looking at this ANN you link in OP and it is not adequate in my wildest imagination. After you give someone money in an IPO they don't really need to do the work but usually they can fork something and you can hope for a PnD. But still, to avoid this don't give money away easily to strangers. Sorry if you boys lost out this post isn't meant as a told you so but rather I would like to see the investment in this industry grow but for that to occur we need to stop giving money to wild west bullshit projects.
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. It is a plan and working project with promising features so not yet being released . You are either noob or lack of knowledge about the word PRE - and Im not an alter ego of the dev. Just exploring the technology of blockchain and what are the potentials it may bring. I know that all you want is to gain as soon as possible. In a blockchain platform minimum adoption would take 2 years. So I 'll always give a chance that my instinct tells me . I don't judge by mere presentation. I judge by reaction. Of course, everyone here is for profit, not loss. This is not a donation.. But again crypto is unpredictable. Now coming to OPAIR, lets say this is work in progress. Is it not possible for the lead dev of the project to update us on work that he is doing, I mean not on daily basis but weekly.... Its the fucking ICO phase!! What do you dont understand? They already made an amazing platform on his web, more, at this stage, they cant do. Haha, dont mind, I get a feeling you are wasserman.... Chill dude, why are you frustated, Is it so, that you invested a lot and now regretting  |
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July 31, 2016, 01:24:56 PM |
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. It is a plan and working project with promising features so not yet being released . You are either noob or lack of knowledge about the word PRE - and Im not an alter ego of the dev. Just exploring the technology of blockchain and what are the potentials it may bring. I know that all you want is to gain as soon as possible. In a blockchain platform minimum adoption would take 2 years. So I 'll always give a chance that my instinct tells me . I don't judge by mere presentation. I judge by reaction. Of course, everyone here is for profit, not loss. This is not a donation.. But again crypto is unpredictable. Now coming to OPAIR, lets say this is work in progress. Is it not possible for the lead dev of the project to update us on work that he is doing, I mean not on daily basis but weekly.... Its the fucking ICO phase!! What do you dont understand? They already made an amazing platform on his web, more, at this stage, they cant do. Haha, dont mind, I get a feeling you are wasserman.... Chill dude, why are you frustated, Is it so, that you invested a lot and now regretting I'm just an investor, but as i said before, today the project are affecting more for users that the Opair team. Currently they can not do anything, they are at the ICO stage. Once they finished we will can judge whether or not met his promises. And yes, i invested a lot of money and do not want to lose by one children who can not read a few simple rules. |
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. It is a plan and working project with promising features so not yet being released . You are either noob or lack of knowledge about the word PRE - and Im not an alter ego of the dev. Just exploring the technology of blockchain and what are the potentials it may bring. I know that all you want is to gain as soon as possible. In a blockchain platform minimum adoption would take 2 years. So I 'll always give a chance that my instinct tells me . I don't judge by mere presentation. I judge by reaction. Of course, everyone here is for profit, not loss. This is not a donation.. But again crypto is unpredictable. Now coming to OPAIR, lets say this is work in progress. Is it not possible for the lead dev of the project to update us on work that he is doing, I mean not on daily basis but weekly.... Its the fucking ICO phase!! What do you dont understand? They already made an amazing platform on his web, more, at this stage, they cant do. Haha, dont mind, I get a feeling you are wasserman.... Chill dude, why are you frustated, Is it so, that you invested a lot and now regretting I'm just an investor, but as i said before, today the project are affecting more for users that the Opair team. Currently they can not do anything, they are at the ICO stage. Once they finished we will can judge whether or not met his promises. And yes, i invested a lot of money and do not want to lose by one children who can not read a few simple rules. Agreed, there are lots of noobs or ICO flippers who will invest without reading anything. But it is the duty of the community to help each other and look out for scams. I am not saying OPAIR is scam. But most of us who love to see who is wasserman, their interviews and how is their development going. Right now, to clear all the FUDs, the most important thing right now, is have a interview or google hangout. Just to see, are we really dealing with Frank or Hao...@kooke, I think you can agree on that |
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Ok if you are willing to answer... AREN'T YOU SCAM TOO? Fudster or against the project for some reason? The project has many good quality features. If the escrow was the only thing, then lets wait for the dev and minimize jumping into conclusion.
name a single feature that exists right now. there is not even any code. you are either not very bright or an alt account of dev. It is a plan and working project with promising features so not yet being released . You are either noob or lack of knowledge about the word PRE - and Im not an alter ego of the dev. Just exploring the technology of blockchain and what are the potentials it may bring. I know that all you want is to gain as soon as possible. In a blockchain platform minimum adoption would take 2 years. So I 'll always give a chance that my instinct tells me . I don't judge by mere presentation. I judge by reaction. Of course, everyone here is for profit, not loss. This is not a donation.. But again crypto is unpredictable. Now coming to OPAIR, lets say this is work in progress. Is it not possible for the lead dev of the project to update us on work that he is doing, I mean not on daily basis but weekly.... Its the fucking ICO phase!! What do you dont understand? They already made an amazing platform on his web, more, at this stage, they cant do. Haha, dont mind, I get a feeling you are wasserman.... Chill dude, why are you frustated, Is it so, that you invested a lot and now regretting I'm just an investor, but as i said before, today the project are affecting more for users that the Opair team. Currently they can not do anything, they are at the ICO stage. Once they finished we will can judge whether or not met his promises. And yes, i invested a lot of money and do not want to lose by one children who can not read a few simple rules. Agreed, there are lots of noobs or ICO flippers who will invest without reading anything. But it is the duty of the community to help each other and look out for scams. I am not saying OPAIR is scam. But most of us who love to see who is wasserman, their interviews and how is their development going. Right now, to clear all the FUDs, the most important thing right now, is have a interview or google hangout. Just to see, are we really dealing with Frank or Hao... there is no FRANK or HAO mate. İ still cant believe how people believe him. He bans everyone from the thread who ask him this question : make a livestream with the fucking coders. He cant because they dont exist |
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July 31, 2016, 02:00:08 PM |
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There legit coin dev team who discloses themselves but still turned out to scam in the end. so wasserman has to explain himself here as possibilities are very high knowing he didn't use escrow and don't even show himself. This just means he is hiding something.
And even if he will identify himself, u can do nothing when he scam people. Even with a picture and identity u can do nothing. What u want to do after he scam you and u got a picture from him?Go to the police and say: i get scammed? Police will ask you: how u get scammed? You will say: well somebody asked for bitcoins, and i give him the bitcoins Police will say: then ur a dumbass, ur a fool, its ur own mistake, bye bye What opair is doing, is sort of a legit way to scam people. Why? He just ask for bitcoins, and people give him bitcoins. It's allowed by the law. People what give OPAIR money are just brainless, there is no law to protect those brainless people.... Is it bad? YEs it is, that's why nobody should give other people bitcoins like this. They simply ask for money, people simply gave there money.... There is no legit contract what both sides are accepting, there is nothing what u can do when the dev runs away with all the bitcoins, even not with a picture from a random google guy. You're a Hero you should know better. of course he can get away with it and no one else could go after the dev. but then if he reveals now and we can check his previous works, we will then know if we can trust him or not. so don't be a dumb ass HERO! |
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July 31, 2016, 03:15:03 PM |
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I posted this yesterday and have yet to get an explanation from Frank. |
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July 31, 2016, 03:17:38 PM |
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I posted this yesterday and have yet to get an explanation from Frank. Please let us know if you get any response. this is getting weirder by the day. |
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