Instability, probably. More correcting? I think that it already over-corrected by a bit. This was more a manipulation than correction.
How so? I didn't notice many things that resembled manipulation. No huge walls or something like that. The movements seemed pretty natural.
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I'd like to add for iPhone users there's an app called Bitcoin Ticker that has a price alarm function. I never have the time to set those alarms however Yep, works perfectly for me. Never missed a big price movement
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What a ride! Damn! 13$, 11.8$, 10.6$, 12$! I could slap myself that I missed out on the whole thing! Up to 20% more bitcoins in two days? Damn!
I need to pay closer attention. As this here is, theoretically, a thread about walls - where would be a good spot to read about hints and speculations when something like this is imminent? The low volume was a good warning sign, it didn't come out of nowhere (this time).. Any long-term thread with that stuff?
Heck, maybe a paid-text-alarm would be due!
Ente
Haha I know right, I would've bought in around low 11s, didn't even think the 10s would happen, but I seriously fucked up when i put in a big temporary buy order for 11.8 two nights ago to add some downward pressure and realized I typed in 12.8 after the fact, causing me to buy at 12.20 (((((( hard lessons learned hard How did you expect your buy order to add to downward pressure? It did you mean to place a sell order and instead placed a buy? My logic was that by placing a lower priced buy order, I would slightly increase density at the lower price and buyers and sellers would note the depth accordingly and possibly adjust their ideas of what the fair market rate might be. Sounds more like to me as you got burned and are not willing to admit it - yet. He bought at 12.20 and the price is now at 11.80ish. It's not ideal, and he clearly lost some money, but it's hardly big enough to say he got burned. Also, his buy wasn't intentional, like he said
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I am predicting we get a rally up to about 12.40.
I am predicting we get a rally up to about 12.40.
More like 12.25 before another plunge probably Pretty close predictions, good job
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Up a little, then way down, then up a little, then down just a bit further!
I've noticed before, your insights seem to be spot on for the most part. Care to elaborate on this statement? Any facts behind it, or just a gut feeling? Sure, It's simple voo-doo really! At the time of my post, we were just finishing wave-1 down. Knowing that we were ready for a correction, I stated "up a little" for wave-2 (which is topping as I type). "Then way down" in wave-3 (Never the shortest wave). "Up a little" in wave-4, but probably more sideways than up (triangle possibly?), before the final drop "just a bit further" in wave-5. This correction has been LONG overdue! It will take all 5 waves to show some of the perma-bulls and the new guys that weren't here last Summer/Fall that up, is not the only way it can go! It's not all about wave theory either. The underlying indicators have been in an extreme overbought state for a while now. Shh...If you're quiet, you can here them breath a sigh of relief! AhhhhhThanks for this post! So, it's at its top right now?
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Signed a binding agreement with them for a specific price after doing a full survey of everything. After the truck was fully loaded, they added another grand to the total and said they would SELL MY FURNITURE if I didn't pay.
Sry I know this doesn't belong here but I just had to vent somewhere. Everything's a scam
BA out
Sue those bastards =/ Can't believe how many assholes live on this planet. Sorry to hear this, BA
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Silly thread is silly
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I've decided Nefario will get a scammer tag for this. Speculating on intents and motivations behind his actions is fun and all, but it doesn't really have any bearing on whether he broke his contract or not. Like I said in Goat's thread, my role is to decide if he deserves a scammer tag based on his actions. If Nefario can't or won't elaborate on why he took the actions he did, that's his problem and he should take it up with the appropriate people. Even if he doesn't have control over his current actions (which I doubt), he did have control when he decided to start the business, and he did have control when he made the agreement and sold pieces of the company to the shareholders. This was a pretty good analogy that made me look at it a different way. You cant sue people for obeying the law. Which is basically what Nefario is doing, That is absolutely not true. Otherwise, an unlicensed contractor could make a contract to do some work for you, take your money, and then say, "Sorry, I'm unlicensed. I can't legally do the work." and you cant force the shareholders to do something illegal. Of course, but it's always legal to pay damages. You're certainly right that you couldn't force the contractor in my example to do the work. But you can certainly get your money back alone with any other damages, including punitive damages. If it goes well people will get their coins back, it sucks that AMl is involved but you gotta do what you gotta do. That's pure speculation at this point, at least so far as I know. If the contractor in my example says, "Sorry, the contracting board says I'm not licensed to do the work. Bye.", do you just take his word for it and let him off the hook for any damages you suffered? Asset owners have suffered damages because they relied on GLBSE. Thanks!
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Congratulations Litebit! I'm in again!
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Before anyone considers buying, look real hard at the last 12 hours. All the volume is on the way down. I don't believe there are any signs that this is over, and I genuinely do not want anyone to get burned here. Also don't forget that Monday is a U.S. holiday, so 'the weekend dip' could be stretched a bit. How low do you think we'll go?
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Hmm, that looks bad. Still some room for 1 or 2 rallies before it breaks though.
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I would turn your bitcoins into USD for now.
"To complement the Forum moderation policy for Speculation, here are a few guidelines on why postings are likely to be deleted or moved. On Market Manipulation: Clear suggestions to market participants to take a particular course of action (e.g. "Buy now before the price goes to 5", "SELL quickly, the weekend is coming") Deliberate spreading of false or forged and deceptive information like faked charts Announcements to take a particular market action (e.g. "I am going to buy 50k BTC tomorrow, so you better buy now.")" Sorry to be an ass, but if our moderator is going to delete my for fun threads because, in his view, they lack "substance" then I am going to at least insist that he enforce his own bullshit rules. Not, mind you, that I have ever understood what good a "speculation" forum is with such rules. I don't agree with those rules either, but we can still speculate without telling other people what to do
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The question is when, not if
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When were you planning on disclosing this aspect of your role in relation to the sale of your stake in GLBSE?
I mentioned it briefly in my sale thread. And I've mentioned it before in other places. Theymos, as treasurer, shouldn't you be the one to disperse the funds to their rightful owners? Why would you be sending the funds to Nefario in the first place, even if you had no knowledge of his treachery?
I don't have the user database. Nefario has defrauded me and others in several different ways and deserves a scammer tag.
- He has stated that he would ignore any motion to remove him as CEO.
One thing I constantly warn people about is self-censorship. If you think it is a good thing to remove Nefario as CEO, then put up a motion, and let him ignore it and take responsibility for this. By not putting up a motion because "he would ignore it", you are simply letting him go on as CEO. Please do not censor yourself, and do what you think is right for GLBSE regardless of what you think Nefario might do then. That could protect you in the future. (disclaimer: I don't have any coin or share on GLBSE) Theymos, please read this post. I also urge you not to give any BTC to Nefario. Thanks. I tried to remove him as CEO, but there wasn't enough shareholder support. 5-6 people supported removing him against three (including Nefario) who didn't, but our side didn't have enough shares for a motion. Three large shareholders weren't at the meeting, so it was difficult to get the 51% required. Later on in the meeting, Nefario somehow managed to convince 1-2 of the people who had supported removing Nefario, which is how he was able to pass a motion to order me to give him the treasury funds. So I doubt a motion to remove Nefario is possible now even if the absent shareholders voted. It doesn't matter anyway, since Nefario said that he would ignore the shareholders and shut down GLBSE. And shutting down GLBSE is against the bylaws, so he needs a 66% vote. He didn't even pursue a 50% vote. What would I do with the money if I kept it? I don't have the user database. Damn, thanks for trying though! This really sounds bad. I hope I'll get my money back from GLBSE. I knew I should have withdrawn... Easy in a hindsight :p
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Nefario has defrauded me and others in several different ways and deserves a scammer tag.
- He has stated that he would ignore any motion to remove him as CEO.
One thing I constantly warn people about is self-censorship. If you think it is a good thing to remove Nefario as CEO, then put up a motion, and let him ignore it and take responsibility for this. By not putting up a motion because "he would ignore it", you are simply letting him go on as CEO. Please do not censor yourself, and do what you think is right for GLBSE regardless of what you think Nefario might do then. That could protect you in the future. (disclaimer: I don't have any coin or share on GLBSE) Theymos, please read this post. I also urge you not to give any BTC to Nefario. Thanks.
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I like the idea, but I wonder how safe it truly is. Isn't it possible the wallet gets hacked, so that the micro-controller starts accepting/processing command it shouldn't?
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GLBSE is offline
For those worried about their bitcoin, please calm yourselves there has been no hack and your coins are safe and all accounted for.
I apologize for the lack of notice and the downtime, but there isn't much choice. We will update our users on Saturday.
So why is Nefario not making this announcement himself? Very unprofessional how this was handled. I think he did make that announcement himself. That text was directly copy/pasted from the GLBSE site, which is maintained by Nefario. But I agree a second announcement on the forum should have made as well. Now all we can do is wait for Saturday.
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You would most likely get a lot more replies with a title that includes some information about the problem you're having.
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I have talked to James. I can give you guys a small unofficial update. James can't reveal any details until the official statement, but he says the coins are fine and that there has been no hack or bug.
He also hinted upon legal issues, which leads me to believe that the reason GLBSE was taken down was due to legal issues probably SEC or something similar. //DeaDTerra
Thanks for the update! This is looking very bad though. This could take many months to solve. Bitcoin should be worth at least 100$ each on entertainment value alone...
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