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341  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: NUBITS, estabilidad y paridad $ USD on: February 02, 2015, 03:16:18 AM
Lo que está mal en NuBits es que siguen insistiendo en dejar el código-fuente cerrado con la disculpa de protegerse de imitaciones. Hay una votación para que lo disponibilicen, a ver si sale...

Y es muy incierto lo que puede pasar en caso de una venda masiva, porque en principio no hay reservas para evitar una devaluación. No me parece que poner altas tasas de interés (o sea, congelar algunos NuBits para después de un tiempo ganar más Nubits por emisión) para evitar una huída.

Cuanto a la cuestión de haber eligido el dólar estadounidense para hacer la paridad, eso puede ser cambiado. O entonces pueden crear paridades con otra monedas.
342  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Miners Paybase Paycoin unofficial uncensored discussion.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 02, 2015, 02:03:23 AM
I love this.

Code:
<ul class="nav navbar-nav navbar-right"><li><a href="#" class="xpy-value">XPY Value $20.00</a></li><li>

Code:
  var p = Number(rates.xpy_to_btc) * Number(rates.btc_to_usd)
  $('.xpy-value').text('XPY Value $' + p.toFixed(2))
})

$.getJSON('/api/xpy-value', function(data) {
  var val = data.xpyValue
  $('.xpy-value').text('XPY Value $' + val)

This explains why sometimes I entered in the PayBase and the browser rapidly showed the 20 USD value before changing to the current value.

BTW, Theymos needs to fix this forum. Just when the dump starts the forum goes to bad gateway.  Sad
343  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ENOUGH WITH THE SCAM COINS. BUY ID'D DEV COINS ONLY! on: February 02, 2015, 12:39:17 AM

Hardforks tend to be part of the process so a change in rewards is not necessarily a bad thing.

With 2 millions of coins mined in 2 days this is really bad.

One of the reason why people respect Bitcoin is because they don't change the mining rewards. Also, a lot of hard forks is really bad. Hard fork should be an exception, not the rule.


In the case of Vericoin, I'm pretty sure they got fucked by Mintpal although that is debatable. I read somewhere the VeriCoin devs had huge regrets afterwards because it divided the Community and ultimately did a lot of damage but they were in a bind and had to do something otherwise there may have been 30% of the Coins floating around of other peoples Coins which they would lose and would crash the price for everyone else.

And Vericoin price falled around 90% since then.
344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ENOUGH WITH THE SCAM COINS. BUY ID'D DEV COINS ONLY! on: February 01, 2015, 03:20:54 AM

Non Scam coins with ID'd DEVs:
Darkcoin
Vericoin is reversing higher with some game changing POS developments in the pipeline.  


Dakcoin: a coin which loves to change the rules. Changes the rewards for mining, changes the number of total to be issued...
Vericoin: developers did a hard fork in order to roll back the chain to revert a supposed theft on MintPal.

None of these could be called scams, but they are really bad coins.
345  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Gascoin X11 algo | Ninja launch | No IPO | website: gascoin.info | on: February 01, 2015, 03:03:27 AM
Yeah, a great joke.

Quote
About Gas

What is Natural Gas?

Natural gas is one of the cleanest, safest, and most useful forms of energy in our day-to-day lives.


http://gascoin.info/index.php/about-gas
346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ❢❢❢ The value proposition of each coin: BTC, DOGE, LTC, DRK, PPC, XRP, NXT, etc. on: January 31, 2015, 03:22:11 AM

LTC.
- Worthless clone.

It seems LTC was born because of the problems of the first altcoins (Tenebrix, ixcoin)...


DRK.
- OK, now we're getting to something different. Completely anonymous, untracable transactions. This is worth a lot. This is what people think bitcoin has but it doesn't. If bitcoin had this, it would be worth a lot more.
- How well does the anonymous transaction thing actually work? I'd love to hear people's experiences with using Darkcoin.
- Broken architecture?

Darkcoin loves to change the rules. It's the king of hard forks. First they said it would be 100.000.000.000.000.000 coins (yes, 100 quadrillion) of coins. Now the limit is ~20 million (so, they turned the first 2 millions of coins generated in the first 2 days, when they didn't have a Windows wallet even more valuable). Also a lot of times they changed the reward blocks scheme. What happened?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5830006#msg5830006
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5823918#msg5823918
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525093.0;all

They also proposed a merge with ShadowCash, and to do this, they proposed to increase the number of DRK (they would create DRK out of thin air).
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HrGDKKtr5cKKE8Iu7aOw1vXbVTGk9078sQaWlprZYrs/edit
347  Local / Primeiros Passos (Iniciantes) / Re: Carteira Online e Carteira Local on: January 31, 2015, 02:06:01 AM
Vamos ver se eu entendi: você quer usar uma carteira online, mas quer ter uma cópia offline dessa carteira?

Porque "exportar bitcoin" não é possível. O que você pode ter são cópias das chaves privadas nas quais estão os seus bitcoins. Mas para isso, as chaves privadas precisam estar sob a sua posse, aliás, a prática de segurança diz que você deve ser o único que deve ter a posse dessas chaves.

Eu acho que o Hive Web ( https://hivewallet.com/ ) deve responder ao seu questionamento. Nunca o utilizei, mas pelo que pesquisei no Bitcoin.org ( https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet ) e no FAQ do Hive ( https://github.com/hivewallet/hive-osx/wiki/FAQ ), trata-se de uma carteira web com total controle sobre o seu dinheiro, ou sejam você é o único que terá a posse das chaves privadas.
348  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Apple Pay and BTC on: January 29, 2015, 07:41:07 PM
...

I heard on TV this morning that Apple had a huge quarter, selling LOTS of iPhones.  I also have been seeing retailers here-and-there accepting Apple's payment system.  Unfortunately I know nothing about Apple's new system

Apple's payment system seems to catching on!  What kind of risks does AAPL provide re Bitcoin's ecosystem?

Once one "new thing" catches on big, that first mover has a tremendous advantage.  First player advantage.  

Will BTC lose to Apple?

Apple Pay is not inteded to be an widely accepted payment system, because it's tied to no more than 11.7% of smartphones market share. On the other side, Bitcoin can run in iOS, Android and BlackBerry. So, who has more potential?

So, if there is some competitor here, it's not Apple Pay. It's Google Wallet.
349  Economy / Economics / Re: Paper Money is so Dead on: January 29, 2015, 06:30:20 PM
I would change the title to "(Honest) Paper Money is so dead". Which also is bad.

Paper money is still the best option when you can't pay in Bitcoin or in precious metals. But now people prefers to pay using debt/credit cards. Debt and credit card (or any other form of eletronic transfer using banks) is what killed paper money. So (at least in my opinion), the mission of Bitcoin is not killing paper money, but killing debt and credit cards.

Paper money at least remains as legal tender, and with paper money, you have what you have. With banks eletronic money, maybe you won't have what they say you have.
350  Economy / Service Discussion / ". on: January 28, 2015, 04:06:26 AM
I wonder how many real people are left in the HashTalk forums? I am not talking about shill accounts, but true members with a stake is XPY.

All too often, I go to read a forum post on HashTalk, linked to from someplace else, only to find it deleted. If the thread is not deleted, I can't help but notice "Banned" under so many poster names or posts where the content simply says 'deleted'. If I were a member of HashTalk, I would not feel good about this at all. I can fully understand the motivation by Hashtalk admins to ban abusive users, spammers or users with nothing constructive to say. After all, it is the company's main forum & it only makes sense that discussion should be constructive.

However, I see users banned far too often for posting a question that no representatives of GAW wish to answer or users being banned for expressing healthy skepticism. Had I invested in a project like XPY, be it $20 or $2000 with the expectation that it was going to be worth 4 or 5 times my investment, only to later see the value of my investment go down by 80%, I too would have questions. Even if my expectations were based on my my own misunderstanding & completely my own fault. If that is the case, set them straight, educate them & address their concerns. If I was a moderator or even the CEO of such a company, I would expect people to have questions or even be downright angry & I would deal with them in professional manner. How do XPY holders support the censorship & immaturity this company CEO exhibits on a daily basis? Just because an investor has questions or even shows signs of losing faith in the project, it doesn't mean they are your enemy. After this ride from $20 to $2, how could anyone employed at Hashtalk expect anything different?

For the true believers left at the forums, if you are reading this, I have a question. How does it feel talking to yourself? I mean seriously, how do you participate in a thread or start a dialogue, only to log out & then back in as someone else, to post to yourself? Then when anyone other than yourself participates, they are met with a ban? When you gleefully cheer Josh for his latest post promising another feature, do any of you ask yourselves what happened to his previous promises? Why do you follow this pattern of Promise, Hype, Delay, Disappointment over & over & over again? After all, your miners that will always remain profitable, no longer are. The points you mined, with the promise of a $20 value are barely worth 10% of that figure today. The ability to shop anywhere with XPY has yet to materialize, if ever. The XPY Credit Cards have not materialized, the investors who were going to hold up the value of XPY have not materialized. Why would you think a buyback is going to materialize? Maybe it's time to start asking questions XPY holders. Oh, that's right, you can't, because otherwise you will be banned & lose access to whatever investment you have left. I suppose the smart thing to do would be to keep your mouth shut & hope for the best. But I certainly wouldn't be cheering on the CEO of GAW on or even participate in the echo chamber at HashTalk at this point .



Never doubt of the capacity of a Ponzi scheme in changing the people's mind.

The case of Paycoin reminds me the case of Telexfree. Telexfree was a Ponzi scheme which was opperated in Brazil and United States. It consisted in selling VoIP signature lines using a multi-level marketing strategy. But after all, nobody bought these lines, but instead they just re-sell these VoIP lines for other people interested to enter in the scheme to re-sell these lines too. Like the typical cloudmining scams, they also had a referral program. After 2 years of operation, the Brazilians authorities closed their operations and they entered with a bankruptcy filing in the US. But the people involved with that scheme started to riot with authorities, alleging they were paying their taxes normally. These two guys, for example surrended themselves to prostest against the close of Telexfree by authorities (in Portuguese: http://g1.globo.com/ac/acre/noticia/2014/01/divulgador-se-acorrenta-em-forum-no-ac-por-liberacao-da-telexfree.html )

But what Paycoin and Telexfree have in common in the same people's behaviour. Every announce of Telexfree the people wrote things like "Voa Telexfree!" (Fly Telexfree!), and same happens with Paycoin and the "GAWesome".

Even assuming the hypothesis of Paycoin not being a scam, a lot of questions remains unclear. For example, what happened with the CAF? Go to posting in a forum saying "I'm honest, I did what I said I would do" means nothing, it's just bullshit. They should provide a balance showing exactly what did with every penny. There's 300 millions USD (which is also 10 times bigger than the Paycoin's market cap) and no data about where they spent it?

Also, in the beggining (when still it was named Hashcoin), they claimed "Cryptocurrency mining is back", and it comes 97% premined. And we had the infamous "20 USD floor". When the floor failed, they started to blame the dumpers and the bad news and started t re-write the history, using the strategy of repeating a lie a lot of times until it comes true. The same happened with merchant adoption, they clearly said the large merchant adoption would come at the launch of Paycoin/Paybase. After they changed the history to "Paybase will not be born in a day". Worse, they GAW still doesn't accept Paycoin.

Another question which remains is the centralization of Paycoin, with the prime controllers and HashStakers. This is really bad, because it turns the coin more easier to attack.

But Paycoiners won't accept the fact of this currency is a scam. There are two type of people here:

1. They still believe in Paycoin because they can't believe in the fact of that is a scam. Admiting this would hurt themselves and could lead to a depression.

2. The don't believe in Paycoin anymore, but they don't want to sell what they have and get rid of this, because they would loose money. So, they pretend to believe in Paycoin while waiting a solid opportunity to sell.

The success of a cryptocurrency can't be tied to one specific business. What happens if GAW goes to bankruptcy tomorrow? Paycoin goes to zero, because Paycoin's is not a cryptocurrency like Bitcoin, it's just GAW's currency.  So, Paycoiners don't understand cryptocurrencies. If they'd understand cryptocurrencies, they would understand a simple fact: cryptocurrencies aren't ready to the masses. Just go to read the Gavin Andresen's interview at Financial Times. We are still in the early days, like the early days of the internet.

Also, I have to agree with this article ( http://coinbrief.net/paycoin-succeeding-dangerous/ ). An eventual success (which is in my opinion, unlikely) would be really bad.
351  Local / Criptomoedas Alternativas / Re: BRCoin, SambaCoin e Guarany??? WTF??? on: January 27, 2015, 09:44:14 PM

Também penso mais ou menos como você. Muita altcoin ao mesmo tempo confunde mais do que ajuda.

A única vantagem que vejo numa moeda nacional seria a de servir como meio de divulgação, educando as pessoas e incentivando o uso das criptomoedas, ou seja, seria uma porta de entrada para essa nova tecnologia.

Por exemplo, aquela moeda "Dilmacoin" que apareceu por aqui (muito embora o nome da moeda me dê um certo asco hehe) parecia uma boa idéia pelo fato que ela tentou criar um meme, puxando para o lado do humor, da sátira, mesma estratégia da Dogecoin (que tem sido muito importante por trazer novos usuários às criptomoedas). Essa sacada do humor ajuda até a mitigar um pouco o terror que algumas pessoas tem por conta de notícias sensacionalistas que ligam as criptomoedas ao crime. Acho que essa é uma forma interessante, que pode trazer cada vez mais pessoas. *Ressalto que, em relação à Dilmacoin, nunca minerei ou possui qualquer quantidade pois (até eu entender que a intenção era satirizar, e não glorificar) o nome realmente me assustou... e me traumatizou Grin



Bingo!!! Eu conheci o Bitcoin graças à Dilmacoin (aquele quadro comparativo (http://dilmacoin.org/como-funciona.html) é genial).

Mas eu entendo que o objetivo das criptomoedas é que elas possam ser usadas em qualquer lugar do mundo. Ninguém na China vai se interessar por uma criptomoeda só porque ela é a "criptmoeda nacional brasileira", e vice-versa. Ou seja, a não ser que seja para ajudar na divulgação do Bitcoin, é uma total perda de tempo (e dinheiro).
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