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341  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly on: October 05, 2012, 04:48:57 PM
So you're saying we're experiencing "exponential evolution" in technology (over what time period? compared to what?) and mankind has made that same exponential improvement (again: time period?), therefore an individual human being is able to ........ (help me here, please.)

I still find it hard to grasp your promising premise and the conclusions you draw from there.


Time is all relative to the amount of change that occurs in it.  That's why for me and many people I know, time feels to be going faster.  We've been evolving exponentially since our creation.  An individual human is able to learn more about the world than ever before, quicker and therefor increase self awareness more than ever before, quicker.  Humans must find this change within their self, it's happening to everyone, though some are more in tune with it than others.  Humans are becoming smarter and rediscovering the true nature of our reality, which is that we make our reality in our mind.

Hope that helped.

Just... last page. Upgraded cell tower != +5 IQ. Gah!
342  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 05, 2012, 06:20:27 AM
Quote from: dank
It's odd that more people aren't eager to lend to me, seeing as I'm the only deposit taker that hasn't defaulted, and despite all the early accusations/presumptions, I still never scammed anybody.

Please, the only person who views you as a "deposit-taker" is you.  You're effectively just taking out pay day loans.  No-one's going to lend you any serious money unless you can prove that you have a guaranteed income stream (such as wages or a government benefit), a viable business plan, sufficient assets to secure a loan, a co-signer, or a combination of these things.  The fact that you haven't defaulted on small, short-term loans (in fact you've had to renegotiate the terms at times, and that's a red flag) is not an indicator of your ability to service large, long-term loans.  the fact that you're asking for money for something different on a regular basis also undermines confidence in your ability to stick at anything over the long term - including paying back loans taken out for things which may no longer interest you.

It's not at all odd that more people aren't eager to lend to you.  Their reticence to do so is both predictable and justified.  You've pretty much fucked up any possibility of borrowing large amounts here.  Learn from the mistakes you've made this time around and don't make those same mistakes when you eventually seek funding elsewhere.  And don't link back to your identity here in any way when you pursue funding elsewhere - doing so can only harm your chances of obtaining it.
And the eight investors I've had.  What makes you think a job is guaranteed income?  What happens when you get fired or the company goes out of business?  Government handouts, really?

I wouldn't call 100 BTC loans small, by any means.  Renegotiate the terms?  How?  By lowering interest rates for new deposits to increase sustainability?  Dank Bank interest rates are only going down from here, there may be a point when I won't even pay interest, but people will deposit because they support what I'm doing.

Let's not forget these facts: dank has borrowed and repaid over two dozen loans over the last year.  Dank Bank has handled over 340 BTC and repaid 190 BTC in principles.  All while offering mighty friendly interest rates.  People have been calling me a scammer since I started asking for loans, based off nothing and amounting to nothing.

How long until people accept I'm not?

Link all the threads where you got loans (I'm looking for start and end dates, amounts, repayment schedules and the likes) and Kii'll show you exactly the error in that reasoning.
343  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 05, 2012, 04:44:00 AM
I don't have time to save up money, I'm trying to get things done this year.  It's odd that more people aren't eager to lend to me, seeing as I'm the only deposit taker that hasn't defaulted, and despite all the early accusations/presumptions, I still never scammed anybody.

Skip the speech, as I said, you're burned. I'm not going down the "yes, it's a ponzi" route again for lack of time, but even if it was 100% legit and secured (according to real world metrics), it's still chump change compared to the sum you're looking for.

You're young, at this point taking a year or two to prepare a project is trivial, especially with the relative lack of serious financial commitments (ie, kids and the rest). Trying to rush through this will only end in tears, despite what you clairvoyance'd.

But whatevs, more comedy threads is also a good thing.
344  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 05, 2012, 03:35:57 AM
Angel, that's like saying it's 2012, we're towards the end.  Time is relative, the peak of this will be at the end of December, a lot has changed over the year but not like it will.

Repentance, time is an illusion, we perceive time as humans but it is not a real 'thing.'  We only live in the present, here and now, we can't time travel because it'd change the present and there's nothing to travel.  We compare rotations around earth's axis to give us an idea of how much time has passed.  Everyday, more change happens than the previous day, as life is constantly changing and humans are constantly evolving.  What would happen if more change occurred in one rotation than the last millennium?  Would time became meaningless?

fgervais, did I say they weren't debt?

I just don't get why you wouldn't go through regular channels for a loan, haggling one here is just a bad idea when you add the usurious rates with the stupid high volatility of the currency (since you kept the debt in BTC).

But this was pointed out previously.
What's a regular channel for an 18 year old with no credit to get a loan?  The OP explains how the loan is fixed to USD while adjusted for inflation.

If I may suspend the troll for a bit, because you seem more lucid tonight, you got options. Seriously, actually beat the bushes to find the financing in fiat.

If I were in your place, I'd look into your parents offer to cover college, even if it's just to grab a quick diploma. Not sure what you guys have down in the States, but over here you could plow through a basic business course in a year if you tried hard. That diploma will help you secure financing, and maybe convince family to cosign the loan.

Otherwise, actually find a job, pile cash, go to the bank with 5-10k in hand and they will be willing to listen.

Forget about financing here, you're burned. Also, keep the esoterics to yourself.
345  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 05, 2012, 02:58:49 AM
Angel, that's like saying it's 2012, we're towards the end.  Time is relative, the peak of this will be at the end of December, a lot has changed over the year but not like it will.

Repentance, time is an illusion, we perceive time as humans but it is not a real 'thing.'  We only live in the present, here and now, we can't time travel because it'd change the present and there's nothing to travel.  We compare rotations around earth's axis to give us an idea of how much time has passed.  Everyday, more change happens than the previous day, as life is constantly changing and humans are constantly evolving.  What would happen if more change occurred in one rotation than the last millennium?  Would time became meaningless?

fgervais, did I say they weren't debt?

I just don't get why you wouldn't go through regular channels for a loan, haggling one here is just a bad idea when you add the usurious rates with the stupid high volatility of the currency (since you kept the debt in BTC).

But this was pointed out previously.
346  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 05, 2012, 02:04:57 AM
Uh, how does one start business with no moneys?  Hmm..

Yes, it is a lot more complicated than I expected, due to government regulations/permits/laws etc.  Not that I can't do it.  Not that I won't do it.  I have a much clearer idea of what is needed to start a hookah lounge, I'm sure I'm capable of doing it.  Far from abandoning the project, I will return to it when I have the financial resources at hand, probably towards the end of the year.

I'll admit this made me snort.

Accumulating debt is very different than zero money.  Otherwise, I could get debt through a loan and have a hookah lounge, with zero money.

You guys have fun talking down each others' children on the internet, while I pursue my dream.

Whereas this, your monopoly payday bank and the rest of your schemes aren't debt?
347  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly on: October 04, 2012, 11:53:18 PM
Thank you for answering my question.  Jimi Hendrix couldn't read music either.

"Lookit! A single urban legend might mean that I might have been right about one thing, maybe, therefore I must be right about ALL THE THINGS."

EDIT: Replace sheet by tab, 'parently that's what's cool with guitar players. And Hendrix could read tab like a boss.
348  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly on: October 04, 2012, 11:26:12 PM
It does. On a macro scale, not an individual scale.
How?  Technology makes humans smarter as a species, but not individual humans?  How can a species evolve, if the organisms aren't evolving their self?  And how can humans exist, in an ever changing world, without evolving?

I have three people doing a research project, one can only talk to other people about it, one can read books for information and one can use the internet.  You're telling me the ones with greater access to information/technology will not learn and evolve faster?

This is the part where I link a couple of studies, articles, blah blah blah. You're not going to read them. Skip.

You're confusing group intelligence with individual intelligence. While it's true individual intelligence will get some gains from the exponential augmentation of knowledge, this involves constant self-actualization, with you know, education. It's not a passive, bleed through process.

I just upgraded my internet at home from a cable 120 meg line to a fiber gigabite link. Kicking my throughput that much will allow me to add a couple of clusters in my R&D park, and interface waaaay faster with my AWS instances. My tools just got a manly as fuck buff, which in turn allows me to work better, faster, which means I have less downtime in my research, so I process information faster. I get smarter in the sense that I have access to better info, faster.

Meanwhile, you play guitar from the soul, whatever that fucking cliché means in practice. My theory is that you make funny faces when you're, ahem, playing. Do you use the advances in telepresence to book a teacher by videoconference? Do you use analysis tools to fine tune your sound? Do you search the web for information on sound engineering? Do you use better search tools to find sheet music more suited to your tastes and styles? Can you even read sheet music?

Nah, while the world is indeed getting smarter as a group, and in some case on an individual level, you regress in mysticism and keep fooling yourself into thinking you're an artiste.

Just because the local cell carrier upgrades the cell tower near your home from 3G to LTE doesn't mean you get a +5 bonus to your IQ by proximity.

Oh, and 87 days left.
349  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly on: October 04, 2012, 09:28:56 PM
It does. On a macro scale, not an individual scale.

Stop twisting stuff to fit your world view.

Inb4 singularity will make me a rock god.
350  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: Dank Bank Deposits - dank soul guarantee - 1.2%-2.0% weekly on: October 04, 2012, 09:05:35 PM
What's your reasoning?  Time is going faster.  Look at the advancements in human history in the last year, decade and century and compare that to the last millennial or longer.  The advancements in technology and communication allow us to evolve faster, we can learn and process more information faster than before.  An idea has the potential to spread around the world in a matter of minutes, or seconds even, rather than months or years before.

Try understanding before rejecting.  If you don't understand something, ask questions to get a better understanding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change#Kurzweil.27s_The_Law_of_Accelerating_Returns

Problem is, it applies on a macro scale, not to individuals.

Oh, 88 days left to be "one of the best guitar players in the world", what ever the fuck that means.
351  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 04, 2012, 12:43:57 PM
I just hope dank never gets a dog.
352  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 04, 2012, 05:06:13 AM
No more fail lounge makes me a sad panda.

Oh well, can't wait to see your next hopelessly stupid idea about financing for the rock star bit.
353  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 03, 2012, 01:39:45 AM
What attitude?  You can laugh all you want, but you can't have the last laugh.

Never have 16 words been more self-referencing...
354  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 03, 2012, 12:16:17 AM
I like his music too.  Music is a matter of taste, most people get over thinking any music they don't like is objectively bad by high school.  You guys must have moved on to the "Music today is terrible!  Get off my lawn!" phase.

 I can definitely see him having a succesfull career in music but his timeline may be a bit advanced.  It takes a while for people to notice you, no matter how good you are.

Tack on 5 years, remove the attitude, sure, garage band come moderately successful local band. Success comes to those who put effort in their passion, but to say that this... sound of a cat in heat romancing a cheap guitar will kick him up there with Hendrix, in 3 months, I can only laugh.

Oh, and I literally will listen to anything. Point and case, I listened to dank's ensemble wall to wall, at great risk to myself.
355  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 02, 2012, 11:56:04 PM
I think you guys are being unnecessarily mean to Dank, I'm not saying I would loan him 3000 btc but after his guitar got tuned his mp3 was much better and I actually saved a copy to keep.

In that case you're either a horrible sock puppet or a horrible music fan.
356  Economy / Services / Re: Curse/Blessing on: October 02, 2012, 11:25:54 PM
As Tyrion casts his spell, the glowing sphere around the forum flares with a brilliant white light.

A horrible screeching noise erupts from within the forum! Tyrion's spell fizzles out.
Tyrion loses 20 mana.
Tyrion loses 2 credibility.
Tyrion loses an audio input port.
Dank gains 420 guitar XP!

This is not how magic works.

And actually, Dank's "music" production could be another good sign of the curse's power.

357  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Birds with lights flashing a bitcoin address in MORSE on: October 02, 2012, 10:18:47 PM
Interrogative, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
358  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: October 02, 2012, 07:36:08 PM
Words are vibrational frequencies, the universe is made of frequencies, communication is a natural step in evolution.

BorderBits, I talked to a SCORE mentor yesterday, he seemed pretty supportive of the idea, as long as I can get passed the regulations and funding.

Woohoo! We're back to all mental issues are fake! 'Cause that never gets old!

Word, and by your own logic, a fart, being made of plenty of vibrations, is as high a form than a beautiful song.

... or whatever shit you were mumbling on untitled 75 or 76.

As for my personnal bet of dank's specific malfunction?

A very sheltered, indigo child life, and the most spectacular case of Dunning Kruger ever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
359  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 30, 2012, 08:00:43 PM
Actually, although it would be much better for my outlook on humanity, I have to call you guys back to reality, can't be a troll unless the troll itself is severely mentally challenged.

I'm still sifting through the muck to try to get a proper portrait of his "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" padyay loans slash ponzy, but summary outlook puts the cost behind this at several thousand dollars. Even taking into account that some of those loans might be sock-puppets, he still borrowed from established lenders, which has to cost something.

Just the shenanigans with nckrazze cost him 15.54 BTC, around 100$, and that was just the one loan. Puuurty sure nckrazze isn't a sock puppet.

So why outlay all that cash? Well, perhaps this thread was supposed to be his swan song, where he might have been trying to con people for a bit under a 100k$.

But then, and I say this with the taste of cat poo in my mouth, you have to take into account one of the rare moments of truthiness of dank: he's been sabotaging the fuck out of himself with the last 25 pages. No way in hell anyone is going to give him any serious money at this point.

So that would mean that as a troll or scammer, he would need to be severely mentally challenged.

Occam's razor tells me he is just a really a bad person with even worst world views. It's an unfortunate plentiful commodity of my generation.


EDIT:



Oh please, if it happens at least we'll be released from the insanity!
360  Economy / Lending / Re: 3000-6000 BTC loan - Hookah Lounge - 9/18/12 Update on: September 30, 2012, 11:06:31 AM
Dank, I swear to God, the smartest part of you ran down your mother's ass-crack and ended up a stain on the goddamn mattress. You are dumber than a bag of fucking hair, and have all the music talent of a three day old raccoon corpse.

Your music is full of distortion, there is not a SINGLE bit of musical talent in the entire thing. To top it off, in the month or so you have been practicing you cannot even play a single tune at all, when most students are at the point they can plink out on or two little songs on their electric guitar that don't make people feel like you are raping their soul.

You stated that good music you can feel in your soul. That's true. Music can uplift you, raise you up to new heights. Music brings me to great heights of creativity. During the war music helped take my mind off of immanent death or pumped us up for what we were doing. During peace-time music let all the stress of the day flow out of me and let me create things, enjoy life with my friends, and even added something to sex with my girlfriend (now wife). Listening to Dream Weaver, laying there, covered in love-sweat, both of us breathing heavy, is a memory I've held onto during the darkest times.

Your "music" would make my dick go limp, my balls fall off, her pussy slam shut, and cover us both with the audio equivalent of hissing spiders that shoot acid. If you forced soldiers to play it in the zone there would be fratricides and suicide pacts. Prisoners of War would file charges of violation of the Geneva Convention. UN Observers would kill themselves. If you played it during a prison riot the prisoners would descend into a cannibalistic frenzy and the prison would end up like the one in The Suffering. If you played it on the Space Station they'd open the airlocks so your terrible music couldn't travel through the air through sound-waves. If you were to play it the Xenomorphs in Aliens would kill each other and write "PRAY FOR MOJO!" on the wall in their own acidic blood. Superman would ram his head into a kryptonite wall at lightspeed to get away from your music. Your music is so bad it would turn Lex Luthor into an Amish man. It's so bad that somewhere there is a Russian scientific panel trying to decide if America has figured out how to released a sound that kills upon the internet.

You are not the world's worst guitar player simply because you are not playing it. You are playing guitar in the same manner that a hobo screaming from a street corner is giving a State of the Union address. Both are making sounds, that is it.

You are to music what Vogon Poetry is to literature.

You beg for others to support you on the internet, you're basically a panhandler who accepts bitcoin. In that way, and only in that way, are you on the cutting edge of anything, as most panhandlers prefer money. They also make more than you.

You insistence that humans are evolving exponentially ignores both evolutionary theory, science, and cold hard facts. You are actually devolving and have set back the entire human race with your so-called music. Your music, by itself, will be looked at as having completely nullified the advances in the art of music by at least 3 great artists. Somewhere there is a man rapping about how much he likes to squish his toes in dog-shit who is a better musician than you are.

You claim you know how to stop cancer, one of the biggest killers in the Western World, and smugly talk about strong souls and other garbage, proving you are an entitled little shitburger who had never experienced true suffering. You are a panhandling beggar without the suffering of living on the street.

You claim to be able to see the future, and can't pick out a fucking lottery ticket. I can see the future too. It has you working minimum wage jobs all your life and marrying a fat girl who will cheat on you while you raise her boyfriend's kids and keep rubbing your face on the guitar.

You makes claims of magic that you refuse to back up with any kind of evidence, and like a toddler insisting his imaginary friend is real, you demand we disprove you, despite the fallacy of disproving a negative. You are worse than any hyper-religious tool that condemns everyone else because you don't even have a document hundreds of years old, just bullshit you thought up or works written by great men that you misunderstood.

You claim high intelligence, yet you fail to apply it in the simplest manner. You can follow scientific papers basically broken down for the layman without coming up with some kind of idiotic misinterpretation. So far, given every chance, you have failed to apply this so called "high intelligence" to the most basic tests, and frankly I wonder if your iPod continually runs an MP3 of your Mom saying "Breathe in, breathe out" so that you don't pass out from a lack of oxygen.

Now that you realized a hookah lounge will be hard work, and because you are too fucking stupid and ignorant to follow the advice given in this VERY FUCKING THREAD, you have magically decided that it will happen later, after you become the biggest rockstar in the world in 3 months.

You're a fucking child. Pack your shit. Go home. Move into your old room. Ask your mother to beat you the way she should have your entire life.

You're not an indigo child, Dank, you're just one of thousands of idiots.

But keep on panhandling, keep on rubbing your face on the guitar and not even understanding what mistakes you are making. Keep on making wild claims with no basis in reality.

The rest of us will go on contributing to society and the human race.

PS: Go Die in a Magic Fire.

I'd be lying if I said that I didn't have at least half a broner after reading that beautiful poetry.
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