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341  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ☆★☆ Bitcoin-h, btc-banker | Scammer, theif running scam, web based wallets ☆★☆ on: July 22, 2014, 08:21:21 PM
Can confirm BTC-Banker and Bitcoin-H are affiliated.



Every time he just comes up with the same excuse saying he's the technical lead, glad you picked up on the fact that he's storing the pass-phrases.


342  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: i'm glad there are so many scams and frauds on: July 20, 2014, 05:18:34 PM
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Hmm... two type of people fall victim to scams.

1. The non-tech savvy
2. The greedy

...I don't care about the second type.
So greedy victims deserve more punishment than the scammer?

I don't think he ever implied that, he just said that the two people who fall for scams are either people who don't understand what they're getting into and the people who want to be greedy and believe everything they see.

"A fool and his money are soon parted"

I personally think if you are greedy enough to think that a website can offer you 30% interest every day and all you have to do is send them your money, then maybe you need to have a long hard think about what you do with your money.
343  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans in BTC on: July 20, 2014, 04:42:08 PM
BTCjam.com has been doing loans in BTC for awhile where people can do peer to peer lending.   I have never tried it before, and I was just reading how someone made off with a bunch of investor money...but that is always the risk of lending...

Thing is BTCJam only does soft credit checking, it's not actually pulling regulated information to asses someone's risk when being loaned money. If BTCJam teamed up with someone like Experian who offer business services they could reduce a lot of time spent checking IDs, get a more reliable credit score and they even include debt recovery.

The downside to this is that people will bad credit will never be able to get a loan, even if they really can afford to pay it back.

Also the BTC would have to be pegged to USD to avoid problems with fluctuation.

Thats the most important thing in loaning BTC. What would happen if you lend $30 worth BTC and after 90 days you get not $33, but instead you get $23.

I loan you $30 in BTC.
After 90 days you pay me $31 in BTC.

Obviously the lender would have been better off holding the coins and probably made more profit if the price had gone up but I think pegging the price to USD is more attractive as I don't think anyone wants to end up in a situation where they borrow say 10 BTC and suddenly the price increases by 10x leaving the borrower stuck.
344  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: i'm glad there are so many scams and frauds on: July 20, 2014, 04:39:35 PM
It has it's pros and cons. People who constantly want to trash Bitcoin will use the fact that it's not reversible as their excuse to dismiss Bitcoin, as if scams like that don't happen with fiat money.

Hopefully people learn to use escrow or at least deal with people that can be held accountable through legal avenues. 

Even trusted member would scam you with thier trust like Project and the other .

They just get more trust and go for the bigger scam .

Of course, anyone hiding behind a computer can decide to scam you after building trust but if I recall correctly there is legal action being taken against Projects in order to recover the lost funds.

What can be done he took the coin and run off , its annomynous

He left a lot of traces to his real identity - apart from the obvious scare factor I see no reason why trusted members would say there have been advances in legal proceedings against him. Bitcoin isn't anonymous, it's pseudonymous.

You can prove an entity owns x address, but you can't prove an individual owns x address unless there is a real identity linked to it, for example sending funds to an exchange where you are verified with ID proves you own that address since you can send funds from it (although not always because anyone command someone else to send coins on their behalf). Your leaving a verifiable trace.
345  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: MoneyPak on: July 20, 2014, 02:35:54 PM
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I was under the impression this is a safe method since you have to buy the moneypak with cash, hence it can't be charged back.

Not through conventional means, but I'm sure I've heard stories of people claiming they had calls from Greendot that the card they applied was fraudulently obtained and that they'd have to reverse the transaction.
346  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make $7000 A Week on: July 20, 2014, 02:33:51 PM
This thread is created on April.

How is the strategy working out so far?

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Last Active:    Today at 01:58:40

Still has time to log in. No doubt his method is possible, I know plenty of people who buy low on on site and sell high on another but they're not rich. They make a little extra change and that's about it. Problem is when you get into high volumes of trading that's when regulations kick in.
347  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: bitcoin-h.com = earn a profit up to 3% - 10% /daily! - INSTANT WITHDRAWAL on: July 20, 2014, 02:31:03 PM
i will talk right now with the technical, sure they will solve the certificat problem.

Great, now my second question is why does your site content look like it was stolen from other sources? Nothing I see there is original and it looks like the same site has been replicated multiples times. Is that another technical issue?
348  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: bitcoin-h.com = earn a profit up to 3% - 10% /daily! - INSTANT WITHDRAWAL on: July 20, 2014, 02:24:58 PM
zwickl - you are welcome to visit our company
as We said in our homepage- we invest and work with virtual money ( e-currency) for more than five years.

That's all good and well, but could you answer my question about the SSL certificate. How can we trust you with our coins if you can't even give us the basic protection needed for these kinds of services?

349  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins are a fake currency that is nothing more than a confidence scheme. on: July 20, 2014, 02:23:34 PM
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Their only value is that there are a few layers of gullible people who are willing to accept them as some form of payment.

Oh right, let's forget about the fact that there's no possibility of fraudelent transactions, losses to businesses because of these chargebacks, way lower processing fees and almost instant confirmation.



You forget about crime and hacker stealing wallet..

1. Encrypt your wallet.
2. Use 2FA if you're using an online service to hold your coins (which you shouldn't be doing anyway.)
3. Use something like Keyscrambler to avoid your keystrokes being monitered in the case of a keylogger trying to figure out your passphrase.
4. Don't download untrusted files and don't visit dodgy links.
5. Use a decent AV / anti-malware suite on your PC.
350  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: bitcoin-h.com = earn a profit up to 3% - 10% /daily! - INSTANT WITHDRAWAL on: July 20, 2014, 12:50:22 PM
Why does your template show plagarized content from other sites that were known scams and if your secure why aren't you using a SSL certificate for your own site?

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bitcoin-h.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: btc-banker.com, www.btc-banker.com (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)

I'm no expert but sharing SSL certificates sounds like a bad idea....then again that's just me.
351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins are a fake currency that is nothing more than a confidence scheme. on: July 20, 2014, 12:23:58 PM
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Their only value is that there are a few layers of gullible people who are willing to accept them as some form of payment.

Oh right, let's forget about the fact that there's no possibility of fraudelent transactions, losses to businesses because of these chargebacks, way lower processing fees and almost instant confirmation.

352  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: bitcoin-h.com = earn a profit up to 3% - 10% /daily! - INSTANT WITHDRAWAL on: July 20, 2014, 12:21:45 PM
it's not pozni .. because we dont collect our members money in a central wallet /account
the money is NOT locked, you can ALL time send it to other, like external bitcoin address
each member store how much btc will in one of his bitcoin-h deterministic generated address and for that money he will recive a decent daily profit

So if it's not a Ponzi how are you paying investors such high rates?
353  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: i'm glad there are so many scams and frauds on: July 20, 2014, 12:20:18 PM
It has it's pros and cons. People who constantly want to trash Bitcoin will use the fact that it's not reversible as their excuse to dismiss Bitcoin, as if scams like that don't happen with fiat money.

Hopefully people learn to use escrow or at least deal with people that can be held accountable through legal avenues. 

Even trusted member would scam you with thier trust like Project and the other .

They just get more trust and go for the bigger scam .

Of course, anyone hiding behind a computer can decide to scam you after building trust but if I recall correctly there is legal action being taken against Projects in order to recover the lost funds.
354  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: i'm glad there are so many scams and frauds on: July 20, 2014, 12:17:11 PM
It has it's pros and cons. People who constantly want to trash Bitcoin will use the fact that it's not reversible as their excuse to dismiss Bitcoin, as if scams like that don't happen with fiat money.

Hopefully people learn to use escrow or at least deal with people that can be held accountable through legal avenues. 
355  Other / Meta / Re: Banned on: July 20, 2014, 12:14:56 PM
You should really discuss it with the staff member who banned you, there's not much we can do and any decision made would be solely up to them. Remember a forum is not a democracy, when you're on there you abide by the site owners rules.
356  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Attempted Scam: Jean_card - Starbucks scam on: July 20, 2014, 12:12:51 PM
fucking u scam
u want card free ??

What does that have to do with anything? Your still selling fraudulent obtained gift cards and OP has the right to let people know of the risks of buying from you.

People will buy $500 worth of cards from you, then when they get questioned about fraud you'll be long gone.
357  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Why are there no legitimate HYIPs? on: July 20, 2014, 12:04:49 PM
As said by someone else, HYIPs were just a jazzy name given to Ponzi schemes. The only way they could offer you such high returns was due to the fact that they used new investors funds to pay off the older investors. Check any decent P2P lending / investment site, such as Zopa - they don't offer high returns but they give a hell lot more than what a bank would and the listings are backed by credit checks.
358  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans in BTC on: July 20, 2014, 12:02:21 PM
BTCjam.com has been doing loans in BTC for awhile where people can do peer to peer lending.   I have never tried it before, and I was just reading how someone made off with a bunch of investor money...but that is always the risk of lending...

Thing is BTCJam only does soft credit checking, it's not actually pulling regulated information to asses someone's risk when being loaned money. If BTCJam teamed up with someone like Experian who offer business services they could reduce a lot of time spent checking IDs, get a more reliable credit score and they even include debt recovery.

The downside to this is that people will bad credit will never be able to get a loan, even if they really can afford to pay it back.

Also the BTC would have to be pegged to USD to avoid problems with fluctuation.
359  Economy / Economics / Re: Can bitcoin survive without the Internet? on: July 20, 2014, 11:57:57 AM
Of course it will, we'll just run really long RJ-45 cables from computer to computer and create our own Internet. It's a bit like file sharing, WAN connections only made it easier but if people really wanted to share files they would find another way around it no matter what, even if it means giving someone 5000 floppy disks with .RAR archives.
360  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin uninstall.exe Virus on: July 20, 2014, 11:39:40 AM
Reinstall the client from Github and see if you get the same message. I know most AVs pick up on miners and they're false positives but I see no reason why unistall.exe would get flagged.
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