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3401  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: June 05, 2018, 09:13:23 PM

But your point doesn't have anything to do with medical ideas. Your point is to defame people. Just happens to be me this time.

Why do you think that I have been kept safe for these many years? The Holy Spirit prays with me in my prayers and keeps me safe. Why would I need medicine?


LOL!  That triggers the fuck out of people who are conditioned by the Talmudics...which is most of population in most Western countries at this point in time.  Fun for everyone.

3402  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: June 05, 2018, 05:51:33 PM

''My belief'' Your belief is meaningless.
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My 'belief' was that BTC at $2 each was a good gamble, and I tried my best to express the reasons why here for the benefit of people who would listen.

My 'belief' is that the medical/industrial complex exists in a big way and that it does not have the best interests of the population at large at heart.  I've provided fairly detailed information that factors into my 'beliefs' about this.

At the end of the day, my own personal interests are served by the eugenicists.  Or they could be if I structured the rest of my life around their operations and the assumption that they will continue to be successful.  I 'believe' these operations to be unethical and would rather sacrifice some of my own opportunities and comforts if it means a less miserable life for the billions of my fellow humans.  Mother Earth is not yet to the point where their holocaust ('blood sacrifice' 'burnt offerings') is actually necessary and there are other options to be explored.  For now.  That is my 'belief'.
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Edit: correction on the translation of the word 'holocaust'.  I remembered it wrong.  Similar in principle though.  A fair number of Jews were offered up in order to obtain statehood for Israel, but by the looks of things it was far fewer than the 6 million mythology produced for public consumption and rammed down our throats every few weeks.

3403  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: June 05, 2018, 02:45:22 PM
My god protects me from diseases, I don't have to be vaccinated. Go ahead and never take any medicine ever again, badecker, see how long you last alive.

Oh, the horror of not having medicine available.  Surely we will all die prematurely without a steady supply of medicine.  And, or course, the societal infrastructure necessary to ensure that supply.  (Again, the 'Are we Brainwashed?' thread.)

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And I have been smoking for 30 years and I don't have cancer therefore smoking doesn't cause cancer. What are you even talking about? You think someone sick with pulmonary infection or heart disease or AIDS or anything would survive without medicine? Are you dumb?

Actually, smoking doesn't 'cause cancer'.  What it does is to contributed statistically to a smoker's chances of getting cancer.  Smoking also contributes to other ailments.  I smoked for 10 years.  When I quit, it changed my health characteristics in noticeable and good ways.  (I simply started chewing tobacco exclusively when I went to work in an office as an engineer.)

My complaint about your post is that you seemed to be confident that badecker would die quickly if he stopped taking government authorized drugs from big pharma.  Since I doubt that you know the guy personally, it seems that you are one of many who consider all humans need to rely on alopathic medicine for survival.

My belief is that humans have the basic design to last around 80 years.  Some people wear out and fail in their 50's.  Some people go relatively strongly into their 100's.  We are seeing the classic bell curve that shows up in nature all over the place.

Historically we had more risks and life-ways threats.  More people died from accidents, war, and diseases for that reason, but still there were old-timers who go just about as long as people do today.  I hypothesize that human life-span characteristics evolved so that a segment of people made it well past their breeding years because their 'wisdom' helped a society be more competitive...and this advantage out-weighed the expense of feeding them.

Of course I believe that using the available tools to deal with a medical problem is fine and makes sense.  If it is modern technology pumped out by are technically advanced society, I'm fine with that and will do it myself if/when it is needed (but will evaluate all of my options, including archaic ones, first.)  My point is that it used to be the exception to require such services rather than the rule.

3404  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: June 05, 2018, 02:02:50 AM
My god protects me from diseases, I don't have to be vaccinated. Go ahead and never take any medicine ever again, badecker, see how long you last alive.

Oh, the horror of not having medicine available.  Surely we will all die prematurely without a steady supply of medicine.  And, or course, the societal infrastructure necessary to ensure that supply.  (Again, the 'Are we Brainwashed?' thread.)

I'm over 50 and have never had to use any sort of medicine to be alive.  One time I had a sinus infection which benefited greatly by amoxicillin.  I may have died from it without the medicine, but probably would not have.  And I got it in boot camp where I was packed together with people from all over the country and under some degree of stress.  Currently I sometimes use an antibiotic for specific and trivial reasons.  Mostly if I get bitten by a tick AND it makes me feel flu-like symptoms which has happened several times over the last 5 years.  Other than that no medicine at all and I've not been to see a doctor for about 10 years (other than to have her write me a prescription for the antibiotics which she does with no questions asked because she agrees with my risk analysis logic.)

I'm not saying that you young sprouts who have grown up under the heavy-vax eugenics programs don't need constant meds to keep you alive.  Lots of you probably do.  I'm just saying that it doesn't have to be this way and if it is a problem it is a fairly recent one...and not a problem at all for the class of people who hold corporate board seats at Merck, Pfizer, Bayer, GSK, etc,  These people are the real 'modern  Gods' so-to-speak.  You are to worship them and regurgitate their programming at every opportunity.

3405  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: June 04, 2018, 02:53:11 PM
We have passive vaccination and active vaccination. Passive immunization comes as a result of the immune system developing antibodies during an infection and active vaccination is the use of weakened or live organism to stimute the body to produce antibodies against that particular organism or disease.

This is fairly meaningless statement of nonsense.

More interestingly, there are some different common technologies.  Off the top of my head:

 1) busted up fragments with target surface protein structures.

 2) a weakened strain of the target organism

 3) a totally different organism genetically modified to contain target surface proteins.

This is critical because #1 doesn't work for shit without 'adjuvants'.  This is often aluminum, but other things have been used.  The purpose of an adjuvant is to irritate the immune system generally and try to get it to produce more antibodies than it would normally.  The trouble is that the immune system will be 'turbo-charged' against whatever it happens to be doing.  If it is in the process of cleaning up misbehaving aspects of one's own body (which is one of it's functions) then it can result in a long term autoimmunity problem.  At least that is my theory.

live-virus technologies basically create a fairly normal general infection of something fairly benign, but in the process of fighting it off the immune system develops antibodies against the target.  Or at least the surface proteins of the target.

When I got my cat vaccinated I specified 'non-adjuvated' vaccines.  These were more expensive and I choose a veterinarian specifically because she was the one in my area who carried them.  Interestingly, vets seem to be more out-in-front on vaccination issues than do human doctors, but even here it is rare to find a 'professional' who shows any real understanding of the science immunology and potential problems with vaccinating.

3406  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: June 03, 2018, 05:01:57 PM
It's funny that people (badecker) who believe in 1 crazy shit (god) also usually believe in other crazy shit. Notbatman believes the earth is flat but that's not his only conspiracy theory, he also believes that giants lived here and other crazy shit.

It looks to me as though what is going on is that we have certain plans and operations undertaken by a central planning group (often what I call 'corp/gov' in our time) and as a tool to limit dissent, opposition to their plan, or exposure of their operations is labeled 'conspiracy theory.'

Most normal people are wired in such a way that they are most comfortable following some specific entity.  Governments tend to put a lot of effort into trying to engineer themselves being that entity which is why it is common in political systems to outlaw some or all religions.

Normal people have a need to prove themselves reliable servants to their leader.  This is a self preservation mechanism and correlates with individual advancement.  For those who favor the central government as their leader, showing deference to officially proclaimed 'conspiracy theories' labels does this.

Religious people occasionally (but not 'usually') place their god at the top of pyramid.  The fear of the 'conspiracy theorist' label is thus diminished in their mind.  Often they replace it with the concept of 'heresy'...which is equally annoying to heathens like myself.

The whole 'flat earth' thing is a good example of a psychological operation described by Cass Sunstein who constructed a play-book for central authorities to deal with 'conspiracy theories', or ones which complicate government operations.  The strategies included fostering of cognitive dissonance among problematic groups.  Basically the idea is to make the 'alternative information' landscape so complex that most people will throw up their hands and just go with the so-called blue pill, and those who keep trying will have a much more difficult task.

For a person like me, the 'flat earth' psy-op is a godsend.  It immediately exposes someone who is either an inserted shill or a drooling idiot.  For the purposes of discriminating information sources it doesn't really matter which one he/she is, but it can be entertaining to try to identify.

Also, most operatives will start out by trying to embed in a (psychological) community.  In this phase they will produce good information which is not terribly damaging to their sponsors because it was already basically known.  Depending on how tightly coupled the shill is, new information will be tuned to serve the agenda of their sponsors.  It can be genuinely valuable to identify a shill and who they are working for, then in a postmortem phase re-evaluate their output over time.

Here's a pretty good presentation on 'conspiracy theories':  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MgwKTdOqPs

3407  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: June 02, 2018, 02:50:11 PM
Vaccination is a way of building your immune system against any disease that the body may encounter in life later on. The unvaccinated has no defflence mechanism against anything and is easily attacked by diseases.

What a ridiculous statement!  The immune system IS the 'defense mechanism' and one has it for life.

Ironically, and not surprisingly, abuse of the immune system by tweaking it with vaccines seems to screw it up for some people.  _Then_ one has 'no defense mechanism', or at least not a well working one.  As the studies show, heavily vaccinated people suffer from a variety of auto-immunity problems and other maladies at a far greater rate than vaccinated or modestly vaccinated people.

3408  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: June 02, 2018, 12:47:10 AM

Update on my mini-14...or potential mini-14:

My name not being on the wish-list was the result of a clerk with cross-eyes, but their buyers still claimed not to have access to what I want (Stainless/wood.)

We have a mountain lion prowling around again and the animals are acting weird, so I'd really like to get my mini-14 which is, in my opinion, about the best weapon for taking care of one of these creatures if the dogs can tree the thing.  More convenient than my elk rifle which is significant over-kill.

So, I put the feelers out to another gun dealer then told the first people that I had done so, but that I would take a blued carbine if they could get one right away.  They called back and said that their buyer now all of a sudden has access to over 40 of the items I want.  I went to town and paid them and now I have to wait for it to arrive.  1 to 2 weeks for special order guns.

I also noticed in a news search that there were a lot of articles about the evil mini-14 and how, while it looks benign is basically the same thing as the evil AR-15.  The strong implication is that they too should be banned.  Apparently Anders Brevik was a big fan of the mini-14 and few mainstream media articles fail to mention this.

The fact that the mainstream media, and more generally the tribe which owns most of the media and 'our' government, does not wish me to have a mini-14 is reason enough for me to get one.  I'm funny like that.  I was also loaned one one time when I was working in Dillingham since there were more bears than humans in town and they actually did try to break into structures from time to time.  The day after I was loaned the thing, the lender killed a bear on his porch using a shotgun slug.  He hoisted it with his forklift, sawed of it's paws with a chainsaw, then deposited it in the dumpster.  I really liked the size and feel of the mini-14 that I was loaned and figured I'd get one someday.

3409  Other / Politics & Society / Re: POPULATION on: May 30, 2018, 02:41:14 PM

The trouble with overpopulation is that it tends to happen in certain developed areas. If there was some policy of developing less developed areas for people to live in, that would be good. Also, a policy of decentralisation would be good. It would bring a lot of pressure off the heavily populated areas.

This is the exact opposite of what the people who currently run the shows wish.  Agenda-21 is all about consolidating people to specific population centers.  AKA 'human habitats.'  You can see such pressures all around in my country (the USA.)

The idea is to have most people living in 'stack-n-pack' housing with no options for transportation besides public transit and perhaps bicycles.  All of the typical person's earnings are consumed in 'rent' (for housing, transportation, Starbucks, iPhones, etc.)  They could not really develop a savings of wealth in terms of physical goods anyway because they have no space.

The countryside is preserved for the elite to live and for corporate entities to monetize the resources without various kinds of push-back and hassles.  This program is marketed as being a way to 'save the earth', but the more I look at it, the more I can see through the charade.

One driving force of the people who are pushing Agenda-21 which I first heard when I started studying it was that the consolidation of people was for the purposes of more easily monitoring them for control purposes.  My first thought was that this was ridiculous.  Now, years later, I'm of the opinion that yes, this probably is one of the main driving forces.

3410  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: May 28, 2018, 06:00:54 PM
Vaccines in children are very good to help prevent some infections and sicknesses.
Generally, I will say unvaccinated children are sicker than vaccinated children.

'say' = 'parrot'.  See the 'are we brainwashed?' thread.

1/3 of American kids are on meds of some sort now.  And fully vaccinated are about 95% I believe.  Something weird is going on but somehow the CDC just cannot seem to figure it out.  Perhaps they are not trying real hard since they are looking forward to the revolving door right into the pharma industry when they get done with their 'public service.'

Thank God I was born in the late 60's when we had a few common sense vaccines and that was it.  Pretty healthy dose of mercury in my day, but we got like 7 total.  Not the 50+ that they shoot kids up with these days.  Back in my day it was a no-no for pregnant women to take so much as an aspirin.  Now they implore women to get as many flu shots as they can (which are one of the few which still contain a healthy dose of mercury.

3411  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: May 28, 2018, 02:57:30 PM
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Scarlett Fever is a bacteriaphage which attacks streptococci bacteria (strep throat.)  Unfortunately it produces a toxic byproduct which causes Scarlett fever.  So, bacteriaphage viruses are not necessarily the be-all end-all solution to all of our woes.  Ecology is marvelously complex and almost completely ignored by the medical and scientific community when it comes to understanding man's interaction with our environment.  Everything is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine all the time.  That's where the money is...and perhaps other useful opportunities for population management as well.

Scarlett fever is one of the many many ailments which disappeared on it's own in first-world countries with adequate sanitation and food.  For that reason it is pretty much memory-holed.  It's an embarrassment to the vaxer contingent and their brainless followers.


3412  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: May 28, 2018, 01:57:44 PM

It seems to me that those who refuse vaccination should pay special insurance. If they get sick themselves or infect someone else. I don't understand why they should endanger the lives of me and my children?

So-called 'anti-vaxers' have been screaming from the roof-tops about doing rigorous and open access 'total health outcome' studies between the vaxed and non-vaxed.  For some reason governments steadfastly refuse.  The less well funded studies undertaken by the (probably somewhat biased) skeptics of over-vaccination seem to indicate that the unvaccinated are far less affected by a whole range of 'modern' problems facing people today.  Problems which just happen to be highly lucrative for the medical and pharmaceutical industry.

This thread starts out by outlining one of these studies.

If a full actuarial was done I'll bet that the vaxers will owe the non-vaxers a ton of money for the harm and costs that over-vaccination have caused to society and for making insurance nearly affordable in the U.S..  At least responsible and well educated parents can keep their kids from suffering the health effects of over-vaccination by telling the medical system to shove it, but it takes a strong person to do this, and it's much more practical for the high income folks to do.

The poor and uneducated tend to be the ones who flock to the doctor's office to get their kids shot up with everything that Big Brother demands.  Anti-vaxers tend to be from the more affluent and well educated social classes.

3413  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: May 27, 2018, 03:57:56 AM
[im]https://i.imgur.com/InHobUx.png[/img]

Ironically I was in town today and checked up on my order of a mini-14 ranch style in stainless.  I called about a month ago and they said I was still on the wish-list.  Today they cannot find my name but said they will call Monday.  I also noticed that all of the 40 or so rifles they had were bolt action and I saw maybe one which was not.  Even that may have been chambered for 22lr.  Oregon.

3414  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are we brainwashed? on: May 24, 2018, 03:26:44 PM

It's because of the laundry detergents. All those laundry detergents - Tide, Gain, All, even Foca - are week. Therefore our brains don't become clean when they are washed. So, we walk around with the same old soiled thoughts.

Actually...

Vaccines often contain a detergent.  Often one know as tween-80.  It has the effect of allowing things to penetrate the blood/brain barrier since this structure relies on lipid layers (fats.)  Apparently a decent portion of the nano sized aluminum particles used (purportedly) for it's adjuvant function in vaccines ends up within the brain tissue.

A 'tinfoil hat' worn outside of the cranium is supposed by some to attenuate electromagnetic radiation before it enters the brain.  The same hat shredded into fine dust and embedded within the neuron cells of the brain probably does function differently.

3415  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: May 24, 2018, 12:09:17 AM

When are the other candidates going to figure it out, America is sick and tired of cookie cutter political rhetoric. They are tired of politicians who make promises they cannot keep. They can see through stupid candidates BS and campaign lies.

2016 was a wake-up call that any political analyst could not miss.  Trump was a pretty unorthodox candidate who did some pretty unorthodox things.  Unfortunately it was all a stage show act written by screen actors guild folks like Steve Bannon and Steve Pieczenik with much input harvested by the likes of Facebook and rendered by the likes of Cambridge Analytica.

What Trump said on the campaign trail with all the MAGA bullshit has little or nothing to do with what they guy (or his minders) actually did in office...although the Q-Anon following mouth-breathers can probably be duped into thinking otherwise for another 6 years.  Trump is as much (or more) of a fraud than any of the professional politicians.  Unfortunately Trump is a hard core Israel-first Zionist and we Americans will be suffering greatly for it for a long time.  Looks to me as though the guy might be a straight-up crypto-Jew and, given his friends and associates, one of the Sabbatean-Frankist variety.

I'd still rather have Trump than Hillary.  Generally the Left wing has more time on their hands and more energy.  If they ever break out of their current Russia Russia Russia mania, they could mobalize and make a difference.  This would never happen under an Obama or Hillary.  In the mean time, a lot of people like me to had some small amount of hope for Trump, or for what he was saying on the campaign trail, are feeling pretty jaded.  More and more eyes are opening every day.

3416  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Request For Help From P&S Regulars on: May 22, 2018, 12:09:14 AM

Appreciate your work FH!

As a long-time user, here is what I try to do.

I try to be aware that 5 seconds of editing integrated across all readers is a lot more time.  So, with 5 seconds of work I can save many hours of wasted time by others.

1) Short posts, I quote in total by highlight a point I wish to respond to.

2)  Longer threads, I try to whittle down to single specific targets of conversation even when I leave in multiple quotes.  This, unfortunately, can be cumbersome.

3)  Sometimes I'll quote a previous post but remove all content.  This so that the 1% of readers who are actually interested can quickly jump to the post to which I was responding.

4)  I use the preview feature to sanity-check quoted material.

I cannot stand cell phones or tablets and use my workstation almost exclusively.  My guess is that most people cannot because they have access only to a phone and, in my limited experience, it's a true bitch to get anything done on one of those things.  I try to cut people some slack if they are so limited.  Unfortunately, it seems that there is a correlation between 'virtue exam' postings and short cell-phone-looking posts.  Oh well.  It helps understand our various societies better I suppose.

3417  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are we brainwashed? on: May 21, 2018, 09:57:05 PM

It's all about the money. Just a theory, when social media was created, it was made just for the sake of people's fun. Take YouTube as an example, if you check older videos like Leek Spin, you can see they were all mainly just a joke. Old YouTube was all about short videos, and short videos that were worth a laugh. But then later on, it all changed.

Note that 'social media' arose spontaneously as soon as 'the internet' was created.  e-mail was one of the first focuses of the very simple network features of unix at it's birth in Bell Labs back in the early 70's which pre-dated DARPA's internet project by a fair bit.  When 'the internet' first became accessible to me in the early 90's, mailing lists, NNTP and IRC were very popular and all are distinctly 'social' in nature.

Back in Youtube's early days, and long before it devolved into the Jewtube that we see today with the ADL and SPLC generously providing their censorship 'services', bandwidth was a real issue.  It is perfectly natural that vids where short and sweet.

I would not say it is 'all about money'.  It is all about control and 'controlling the narrative.'  Money is a joke to people who have it.  It's just a useful tool for more important things...and a select few who print the stuff have as much as they need to make almost anything they want happen.

3418  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Biggest Problem of your Country ?? on: May 21, 2018, 02:08:40 AM
many problem in our country. Population is more than the population. Environmental pollution due to traffic congestion. The rate of education is lower than the population. Per capita income is less than the population. Electricty deficit in different areas of the city. etc

The only place I've seen utterly terrible air pollution due to 'traffic' was around the Chennai airport.  I think it was positively unhealthy.

Beijing was fine, but part of that may be due to banning 2-stroke vehicles, another part due to rains when I was there, and another part due to cleanup for the Olympics.

Tokyo was fine.  Ho Chi Minh city was not all that bad considering the number of scooters.  Bangalore same.  Certainly these areas are not totally clean and traffic related pollution probably does create health problems for some people over time, but I didn't consider it high on the lists of problems.

3419  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Biggest Problem of your Country ?? on: May 20, 2018, 03:01:58 PM
as other has pointed out the bigest problem in third world countries is the corrupted gouverment but i would like to point out that these gouverment reached the place where it is now with the help and involvement of outside authorities which need these goverment to keep the people occupied while stealing our naturel ressource

Even in my country, a lot of powerful people have become rich by stealing the natural resources (rock quarries, river sand.etc). But then, if we don't allow that, then no one will benefit out of it. The government is either too corrupt or incapable of exploiting these resources.

Two-pronged solution:

1) Transparency in financial aspects of earth-given resources.  I'm not a 'commie', but it does seem fundamentally fair that certain non-renewable resources found in the environment should 'start out' being the property of society at large and some benefit should accrue to them.

2) 'progressive' tax based on how far away the 'extraction rights' owner(s) live.

3) Perhaps also a tax or fee levied on untapped resources for which extraction rights are held.  This would put resources back into a pool for negotiation.

The idea would be that a tangible entity (an identifiable local person) is 'to blame' if 'the people' are getting screwed out of 'their' birthright.  If I were the dictator, I'd look into severely changing how 'corporations' work and may outlaw them all together.

3420  Other / Off-topic / Re: Self-education. on: May 19, 2018, 04:24:03 PM

This thread has the 'virtue exam' feel described in the mod's sticky depressingly often.  I think that self-education is a great thing, but people need to be realistic for their own good.  It is probably not the best option for dumb shits.

Secondly, study in a lot of fields includes hands-on experience.  Without it, the rate of progress is severely retarded and success is unlikely.  This means that choosing a field where success is practical is important.

Software engineering is a good option because fairly state-of-the-art unix systems (for example) are easily available.  A datacenter sized storage array is not, but it is practical to emulate one for training purposes.  Many of the most widely used tools and techniques are 'open source.'

Contrast this with genetic engineering where one is unlikely to get to first base without access to a lab full of expensive equipment.  Compounding this problem is that most of the information representing the state of the art is secret.

For technical fields which involve expensive equipment, a pretty good option would seem to me to be to learn enough to make oneself useful sweeping floors and cleaning bottles in order to get a foot in the door.  Then focus on learning the more technical aspects while on-the-job.

I will also say that a technically tracked AA at a junior collages is cheap and it will force one to get through the basics of math, physics, chemistry, etc, and a certain basic amount of equipment is available when needed.  In some cases a community college will have a superior program to some of state universities in the lower division levels.  This was absolutely my findings at the schools I attended.  Community colleges also tend to cater to people who have to work for a living (and kids who have exhausted the potential of their high schools.)

The above is written from an American perspective and experience of about 25 years ago.  Some things may have changed and may not be applicable in other countries.  I sense that universities are even more focused on cranking out good little SJW's now then they were even back then.  The local CC mostly just wanted to instill the prerequisite knowledge to succeed in a transfer program it seemed to me, though this may have applied mostly to the technical track.

No matter what they do, a person will be better off and have more options if they can stay out of debt.  And relatedly, avoid other types of responsibilities (esp, a bunch of hungry kids to feed.)  I know of a bunch of instances where it was simply not realistically practical for a person to move upward in terms of education/skill development because they got themselves financially trapped.

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