Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker?

[BADecker]

Doctors Who Discovered Cancer Enzymes In Vaccines All Found Murdered

Each of the deceased doctors appears to have died in apparent, yet suspicious suicides.

The medical community is left speechless due to the timing of their deaths, based upon that they were all scientists working on an advanced breakthrough cure for cancer.

Prominent autism specialist, Dr. James Jeffrey Bradstreet, was researching cancer enzymes prior to his death in July 2015.

His body was discovered floating in a North Carolina river with a single gunshot injury to the chest.

Suspicions swirled that the medical professional may have been killed as an outcome of his groundbreaking research study.

Cancer enzymes in vaccines

Bradstreet and his colleagues had actually found that the immune system is being jeopardized by nagalase cancer enzymes

Dr. Bradstreet's research found that these cancer enzymes are being introduced through vaccines.

Doctor Bradstreet was working with a naturally occurring substance that may be the single most efficient thing in the immune system for eliminating cancer cells.

Nagalase interferes with an important protein in the body that eliminates cancer cells, discussed Dr. Ted Broer in an interview on the Hagmann and Hagmann Report.

Read more at http://woked.co/doctors-cancer-enzymes-vaccines-murdered/.

[Sithara007]

Wikipedia gives the mortality rate from small-pox at 30%.

The overall case-fatality rate for ordinary-type smallpox is about 30 percent, but varies by pock distribution: ordinary type-confluent is fatal about 50–75 percent of the time, ordinary-type semi-confluent about 25–50 percent of the time, in cases where the rash is discrete the case-fatality rate is less than 10 percent. The overall fatality rate for children younger than 1 year of age is 40–50 percent. Hemorrhagic and flat types have the highest fatality rates. The fatality rate for flat-type is 90 percent or greater and nearly 100 percent is observed in cases of hemorrhagic smallpox.

If you think that such a deadly disease can be treated without vaccination, then I have to say that you are out of your mind.

[BADecker]

^^^ Anybody can put himself into the position of placing articles into Wikipedia. If Wikipedia limits some people, they are doing so on the basis of their own judgment. So, what is fake and what is true regarding what they say?

It is great that you have an opinion about vaccination. But such an opinion without evidence places you into a dangerous position, especially when you claim something with the conviction of stating that other people might be out of their minds.

Nobody knows for a fact if it is vaccines that cure small pox, or if it is something else. All they might have as evidence is the timing. But it is known for a fact that vaccines are dangerous: https://www.naturalnews.com/SearchResults.asp?query=vaccine&pr=NN.

[tvbcof]

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If you think that such a deadly disease can be treated without vaccination, then I have to say that you are out of your mind.

You are not understanding what I am saying.  I'm saying that of the total population, the number of people who died from smallpox was 200/100,000 back in the 1700's during periods when the virus was periodically rampant among human populations.  Populations who lived differently than most of us today in terms of sanitation and other life-ways.

This is a highly relevant figure because the rate of getting stuck with big pharma's needle which certain people want to see is 100,000/100,000...or perhaps slightly less since they don't plan on giving it to their own kids.

If the rate of vaccine damage (anaphylactic shock, peanut allergies, Guillain-Barre, meningitis, etc, etc) vastly exceeds the frequency and/or magnitude of the ill effects of the condition the vaccine claims to address, then using it makes no sense.  At least not for the purpose for which the vaccine is marketed.

FWIW, like most 'anti-vax' people, I am not really against vaccines per-se.  They can work, and they can make sense.  The problem is that currently they are not being used honestly or in a rational manner and I blame the lobbying efforts of big pharma and the influence of super rich eugenicists for this.  Or at least I don't disregard this influence.

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A different medical condition is cancer.  My own grandparents got the condition at a rate of 100,000/100,000.  Three of them died from it after a long, painful, and expensive period of time.  The fourth lost a leg, but it was cured and she died of other causes.

I've read estimates of the average value of an American cancer patient to the medical industrial complex as low as $30,000 and as high as $1,000,000.  It's no wonder that no 'cure for cancer' has yet been found.  And it would not surprise me at all to find that various highly promoted elements of our society are contributing to the cancer rate.  That includes vaccines.

[BADecker]

Support Vaccines or Lose Your Life-Just Ask 89 Dead Doctors

All doctors should support all vaccines. If you don't think that is true, maybe you should ask the 89 naturopathic doctors who have met untimely ends. How about the doctors who have mysteriously died who ideentified cancer properties in many vaccines. Meanwhile, Bill Gates, the King of vaccines is making money hand over fist and over the dead bodies of doctors who oppose him and the criminal CDC-supporting-vaccine industry. Here is the complete story.

All Doctors Need to Support All Vaccines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBtasYAuyUs


Read more at http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/support-vaccines-or-lose-your-life-just-ask-89-dead-doctors/.

[BADecker]

Open records request reveals shocking e-mail from Kraft scientist claiming the "IARC is killing usL"

If the top cancer research agency in the world links one of your products to cancer, what should you do? The responsible thing would be to pull the product from the market and try to get to the bottom of the situation. If you feel they're wrong, the most obvious course of action would be to produce evidence showing that your product does not, in fact, cause cancer. However, many food industry players affected by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC)'s findings have chosen to attack the group instead, which can only mean one thing: Their products are indeed dangerous, and they can't prove they're not.

This is likely why former Kraft General Foods, Inc. scientist James Coughlin wanted to go after the group. In email correspondence with retired Syngenta toxicologist Timothy Pastoor and Monsanto public relations man Jay Byrne, Coughlin said that he had been "fighting IARC forever" and recounted a period during which he criticized the group to a House staffer tasked with stripping U.S. funding from the IARC.

In the emails, he expressed his happiness about the House going after the IARC's NIH funding, saying, "It's about time!" Mentioning ingredients like sucralose and aspartame, he suggested they all get together and devise a way to "expose" the international cancer agency, saying "IARC is killing us!"

Same story, different players

We also saw this happen with glyphosate, a chemical found in Monsanto's popular Roundup weed killer. When the group labeled it as being "probably carcinogenic to humans" in 2015, Monsanto went after them. The IARC reported that there was "limited evidence of carcinogenicity in humans for non-Hodgkin's lymphoma" and they also said there was "convincing evidence" it caused cancer in animals. Monsanto suddenly found itself facing lawsuits from cancer patients and farmers alike.

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So what did they do in response? Did they come up with proof that glyphosate is safe and the IARC is wrong? No. Instead, they went after the group with some of their favorite tools: smear campaigns, misinformation, and propaganda.

As a matter of fact, they started preparing their attack ahead of the decision being handed down, enlisting lobbyists, PR experts and scientists to orchestrate an outcry over the classification before it even happened – which means they must have known the decision would not go their way because the truth is not on their side.

According to internal company emails, Monsanto launched a concerted effort to discredit the IARC. They tried to have reporters and scientists plant seeds of doubt by claiming the IARC's report was based on incomplete information – something that was later shown to be untrue.

Read more and click the links at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2018/05/17/open-records-request-reveals-shocking-e-mail-from-kraft-scientist-claiming-the-iarc-is-killing-us/.

[automail]

I think there are vaccines that are really needed. Vaccines are made to counter diseases and not to make it worst. I won't recommend avoiding vaccines just because you read an article that it can make someone sick. Always follow the doctors advise. We don't live in the stone age era anymore. Just be glad that they discovered vaccines to save millions of lives.

BTW, tere are vaccines that can prevent diseases. Please see below.
Polio.
Hepatitis B.
Pneumococcal Disease.
Diphtheria (the 'D' in DTaP vaccine)
Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b)
Tetanus (the 'T' in DTaP vaccine; also known as Lockjaw)
Pertussis (the 'P' in DTaP vaccine, also known as Whooping Cough)

[Sithara007]

BTW, tere are vaccines that can prevent diseases. Please see below.
Polio.
Hepatitis B.
Pneumococcal Disease.
Diphtheria (the 'D' in DTaP vaccine)
Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b)
Tetanus (the 'T' in DTaP vaccine; also known as Lockjaw)
Pertussis (the 'P' in DTaP vaccine, also known as Whooping Cough)

I would add a few more to that list. Especially the following ones:

Anthrax
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Measles
Mumps

On top of these, vaccines against diseases such as Cholera, Typhoid Fever, Yellow Fever and Japanese Encephalitis are very important in regions where the risk from these diseases is high.

[limpopo poni]

It seems to me that those who refuse vaccination should pay special insurance. If they get sick themselves or infect someone else. I don't understand why they should endanger the lives of me and my children?

[BADecker]

Phages

But it was a bacterium, not a virus, that was bedeviling them now. Three months earlier, on the last night of a Thanksgiving vacation in Egypt, Patterson had suddenly fallen ill, so severely that he had to be medevaced to Germany and then to UCSD. There were several things wrong - a gallstone, an abscess in his pancreas - but the core of the problem was an infection with a superbug, a bacterium named Acinetobacter baumannii that was resistant to every antibiotic his medical team tried to treat it with. Patterson had been a burly man, 6-foot-5 and more than 300 pounds, but now he was wasted, his cheekbones jutting through his skin. Intravenous lines snaked into his arms and neck, and tubes to carry away seepage pierced his abdomen. He was delirious and his blood pressure was falling, and the medical staff had sedated him and intubated him to make sure he got the oxygen he needed. He was dying.

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“I asked him, ‘Why can’t bacteriophages get rid of the VRE?'” Sulakvelidze recalls. “I thought it was a naive question.” But later, after the patient died, Sulakvelidze says he realized, “Something very strange is going on. Somebody just died in the most developed country in the world, from something that could probably be very easily cured in a country like Georgia.” [Rssia]

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Phages are viruses. In the wild, they are the cleanup crew that keeps bacteria from taking over the world. Bacteria reproduce relentlessly, a new generation every 20 minutes or so, and phages kill them just as rapidly, preventing the burgeoning bacterial biomass from swamping the planet like a B-movie slime monster. But phages do not kill indiscriminately: Though there are trillions in the world, each is tuned evolutionarily to destroy only particular bacteria. In 1917, a self-taught microbiologist named Félix d’Herelle recognized phages’ talent for targeted killing. He imagined that if he could find the correct phages, he could use them to cure deadly bacterial infections.

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Now they had individual viruses that might do the trick—but they needed to grow enough of them to make up a treatment. They let the bacteria from Patterson’s infection reproduce under lab conditions and then unleashed the phages on them. The viruses worked the way they had evolved to: They attached to the bacteria, inserted their DNA, copied themselves, and exploded the pathogens. The team fed the phages more and more Acinetobacter. In 10 days, they had trillions of copies.

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“I always thought viruses were the bad guys, evil. Now I can see that viruses may actually be used for good, too.”

Read more at https://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.it/2018/05/phages.html.

[tvbcof]

It seems to me that those who refuse vaccination should pay special insurance. If they get sick themselves or infect someone else. I don't understand why they should endanger the lives of me and my children?

So-called 'anti-vaxers' have been screaming from the roof-tops about doing rigorous and open access 'total health outcome' studies between the vaxed and non-vaxed.  For some reason governments steadfastly refuse.  The less well funded studies undertaken by the (probably somewhat biased) skeptics of over-vaccination seem to indicate that the unvaccinated are far less affected by a whole range of 'modern' problems facing people today.  Problems which just happen to be highly lucrative for the medical and pharmaceutical industry.

This thread starts out by outlining one of these studies.

If a full actuarial was done I'll bet that the vaxers will owe the non-vaxers a ton of money for the harm and costs that over-vaccination have caused to society and for making insurance nearly affordable in the U.S..  At least responsible and well educated parents can keep their kids from suffering the health effects of over-vaccination by telling the medical system to shove it, but it takes a strong person to do this, and it's much more practical for the high income folks to do.

The poor and uneducated tend to be the ones who flock to the doctor's office to get their kids shot up with everything that Big Brother demands.  Anti-vaxers tend to be from the more affluent and well educated social classes.

[tvbcof]

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Scarlett Fever is a bacteriaphage which attacks streptococci bacteria (strep throat.)  Unfortunately it produces a toxic byproduct which causes Scarlett fever.  So, bacteriaphage viruses are not necessarily the be-all end-all solution to all of our woes.  Ecology is marvelously complex and almost completely ignored by the medical and scientific community when it comes to understanding man's interaction with our environment.  Everything is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine all the time.  That's where the money is...and perhaps other useful opportunities for population management as well.

Scarlett fever is one of the many many ailments which disappeared on it's own in first-world countries with adequate sanitation and food.  For that reason it is pretty much memory-holed.  It's an embarrassment to the vaxer contingent and their brainless followers.

[tvbcof]

Vaccines in children are very good to help prevent some infections and sicknesses.
Generally, I will say unvaccinated children are sicker than vaccinated children.

'say' = 'parrot'.  See the 'are we brainwashed?' thread.

1/3 of American kids are on meds of some sort now.  And fully vaccinated are about 95% I believe.  Something weird is going on but somehow the CDC just cannot seem to figure it out.  Perhaps they are not trying real hard since they are looking forward to the revolving door right into the pharma industry when they get done with their 'public service.'

Thank God I was born in the late 60's when we had a few common sense vaccines and that was it.  Pretty healthy dose of mercury in my day, but we got like 7 total.  Not the 50+ that they shoot kids up with these days.  Back in my day it was a no-no for pregnant women to take so much as an aspirin.  Now they implore women to get as many flu shots as they can (which are one of the few which still contain a healthy dose of mercury.

[Moana]

The arguments among anti-vaxxers and curious parents are along the lines of:  "My doctor and every other doctor and a million different real cases and all legitimate medical researchers except those who profit from saying otherwise say that vaccines are good for preventing illnesses, but someone much louder than them said that they're not so I think that every knowledgeable person is wrong".

Well let them. Good riddance. I'd rather have my kids be autistic, have learning disability or have allergies than have them horribly die from a disease that could have been prevented by a quick shot.

You bet these people also believe about chemtrails, mutated lizards living under the sewers or having sex with virgins will cure AIDS.

The benefits of vaccines far outweigh the supposed risks. We already saw what happen when they deny kids vaccination.

Most of the vaccinations nowadays are not against terrible diseases, just ordinary ones. Of course, the vaccines against terrible diseases have a different risk/reward balance compared to those agains ordinary diseases.

[BADecker]

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Scarlett Fever is a bacteriaphage which attacks streptococci bacteria (strep throat.)  Unfortunately it produces a toxic byproduct which causes Scarlett fever.  So, bacteriaphage viruses are not necessarily the be-all end-all solution to all of our woes.  Ecology is marvelously complex and almost completely ignored by the medical and scientific community when it comes to understanding man's interaction with our environment.  Everything is vaccine, vaccine, vaccine all the time.  That's where the money is...and perhaps other useful opportunities for population management as well.

Scarlett fever is one of the many many ailments which disappeared on it's own in first-world countries with adequate sanitation and food.  For that reason it is pretty much memory-holed.  It's an embarrassment to the vaxer contingent and their brainless followers.

However, if the medical had spent even only 10% of the funds on Biophages that they do on medicine, this and many of the other problems would have been overcome long ago. In addition, people would be healed from many of the diseases that plague mankind.

More than likely, using biophages would help us find methods to live longer, way faster than any of the other anti-aging processes in the works right now,

[3acaga]

I am positive about vaccination and I think this is the most correct decision to rid yourself of the risk of swelling. But in my country the government buys very poor quality vaccines and there are very many cases when a child enters the hospital at the risk of death. I made a vaccine for all my children, but I bought it for a very large amount of money and did not prick free vaccines with.

[fordharrison]

you know i've heard that all these vaccines are null shit. they were mady for recent death of us. think of owrs old old old old old ancetors. did you know that their period of time living and being healthier was much longer than today. they didnt use any vaccines but still they had beautiful orginzed defence against the deseases and i dont speak abouty their % usage of their brain, г probably heard that today people use 1-3 % of our brains. the geniuses use 3-5 %. some say less some say lit more, but everyone agree that we use a piece of nothing. so? ancetors weren't using it, why we should. you may say today we live in bad conditions, food is unhealthy, the water and the air are contaminated, thats we we should been vaccinated. then ask yourself do you believe that healthy evrironment is around you ? if yes? then why do you think vaccines are needed. if no, then ask yourself why the area i live in is so bad, is because of our government ? then if they ruin your life there, why they won't do it with vaccines. i would say many times i dont need a vaccine. if it is interesting for you, then search for needed information and you'll find the truth)))

[bombie1]

Vaccination is a way of building your immune system against any disease that the body may encounter in life later on. The unvaccinated has no defflence mechanism against anything and is easily attacked by diseases.

[tvbcof]

Vaccination is a way of building your immune system against any disease that the body may encounter in life later on. The unvaccinated has no defflence mechanism against anything and is easily attacked by diseases.

What a ridiculous statement!  The immune system IS the 'defense mechanism' and one has it for life.

Ironically, and not surprisingly, abuse of the immune system by tweaking it with vaccines seems to screw it up for some people.  _Then_ one has 'no defense mechanism', or at least not a well working one.  As the studies show, heavily vaccinated people suffer from a variety of auto-immunity problems and other maladies at a far greater rate than vaccinated or modestly vaccinated people.

[Sithara007]

I am positive about vaccination and I think this is the most correct decision to rid yourself of the risk of swelling. But in my country the government buys very poor quality vaccines and there are very many cases when a child enters the hospital at the risk of death. I made a vaccine for all my children, but I bought it for a very large amount of money and did not prick free vaccines with.

The pharma cartel very often over-prices their drugs and vaccines, and as a result of this the governments in the third world nations are forced to purchase cheap quality drugs which are available at low prices. But even these low-quality medicines have saved the lives of millions of people.