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But since I admittedly can't prove that I know what you were actually thinking or what your actual motivations were *snip* Finally a bit of direct honest analysis from someone else...... As an outsider... its maddening to see how this is progressing. Don't be maddened. It's impossible to prove pretty much anything if you're looking at it in absolute terms (which TECSHARE does on a regular basis when it's to his benefit). Nearly every scam that's ever happened on this forum lacks the evidence to prove that there is a 0.0% chance that the scammer is innocent. Same goes for pretty much every crime that involves the internet or computers. The same goes for every criminal who was convicted based on finger prints or DNA. Don't fall for the 'circumstantial evidence is worthless. nothing more than baseless speculation'. Circumstantial evidence is pretty much all we have for anything on a forum like this. If we decided to just ignore it, scammers would be able to get away with anything. If you're just looking for 100% proof of anything in these situations, you'll never find it. The best you can do is look at the evidence, consciously be as objective as possible and make up your own mind. Most likely some will disagree with your opinion. That's not a bad thing. |
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A lot of anti Bernie people are calling for Amy to drop out today so she doesn't win any delegates that Biden would win otherwise. But fivethirtyeight is forecasting that Amy wins a little over half of Minnesotas 75 delegates and Bernie wins the rest. Biden is about even money to be viable or not. If Amy were to drop out, many of her voters probably wouldn't turn out, and Bernie could end up winning a whole bunch more than he would if she stayed in. Minnesota is the only state that someone other than Bernie or Biden is favored to win. I wonder if this is the sole reason that she hasn't dropped yet. (I haven't looked too close at her viability in all the other states, so I could be way off base here.)    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/minnesota/ |
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I would make the Rockies taller and bigger. Add a few super wide rivers to the mid-west, and have a couple extra floridas sticking out of each coast.  |
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The winner of an election being the one who got the most votes. On a technicality. A plurality of delegates in this case indicates that he would probably get the majority of the people in a 1 VS 1 election for the nomination.
Biden is actually winning the popular vote at the moment by a decent margin despite being behind in delegates. I was pretty surprised when I saw this.  |
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The Nazi party campaigned on socialist ideas (and lost), and labeled themselves socialists, but as soon as they assumed power Hitler immediately had the senior officials of every opposition political party murdered along with their families and other supporters.
Then he invaded a bunch of countries and forced every man to either fight for him or have their family murdered.
He murdered almost 10 million people just because they were Jewish, gay, disabled or suspected of criticizing the Nazi party.
Using the Nazi party as an example of why someone shouldn't vote for Bernie is pretty silly unless you believe Bernie has some secret agenda to become a dictator.
But isn't that the very point that people continue to warn about, as a fundamental flaw in the theory of socialism? "as soon as they assumed power " ... they can do anything they want... So why, exactly, should you believe Bernie on anything? He's been pushing the same healthcare, healthcare, immigration and labor policies while also defending the idea of democracy and the freedoms that come with it for 40 years. I'm convinced that he really does believe that his policies would do more good than anything anyone else has proposed. (Note: Personally, I'm not convinced that his policies are the answer right now) There are tons of valid reasons to be anti-Bernie, but, in my opinion, being worried that he will try to become a dictator, take over the world, execute all who oppose him, or commit genocide are not among them. |
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South Korea confirmed almost 500 new cases. 4 different countries reported their first case. USA had it's second death in Washington state and confirmed 9 more cases in Washington, Florida, Oregon and New York City bringing total cases to 84 ( 9 recovered, 8 in serious/critical condition, 2 dead) https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ |
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when you say nazism is socialism you're implying it is leftist. ....
Actually, it was the NAZIS that said they themselves were socialist. Their very name. There may be some fine lines between corrupt fascist country and a corrupt socialist country, I am not sure it is worth arguing without very precise defining of the terms first. it was a reaction to the growth of socialism and they stole the name to confuse the working class. the differences in its politics, in the economy, are huge. socialists were persecuted and killed. as I wrote before, don't be fooled by Hitler. it's 2020 and he's still fooling people. This is an article that claims the Nazis were not socialists. https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialistsThis is an article that claims the Nazis were socialists. https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarianI tend toward the latter. The Nazi party campaigned on socialist ideas (and lost), and labeled themselves socialists, but as soon as they assumed power Hitler immediately had the senior officials of every opposition political party murdered along with their families and other supporters. Then he invaded a bunch of countries and forced every man to either fight for him or have their family murdered. He murdered almost 10 million people just because they were Jewish, gay, disabled or suspected of criticizing the Nazi party. Using the Nazi party as an example of why someone shouldn't vote for Bernie is pretty silly unless you believe Bernie has some secret agenda to become a dictator. |
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Honorable move imo. Nice run Pete. I wonder if Biden offered him anything. Maybe the VP spot. Biden + Pete = a good chance of Trump 2020 I doubt it only because he's a white male. Stacey Abrahms, Kamala or Amy seem more likely. Maybe Pete ends up as Sec of Vet Affairs or ambassador to a decent country. Or he might decide to make some money and do something else now that he's big time. |
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Honorable move imo. Nice run Pete. I wonder if Biden offered him anything. |
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Just raising awareness. For what reason exactly? That is other than your compulsion to attack the source of pretty much anything I post in an attempt to discredit it, whatever it may be. Is it a secret the media is state run in China? So that people who click the link are aware that they are reading a state run Chinese tabloid. |
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Post SC forecasts show a 60% chance of a brokered convention.   |
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GlobalTimes is a state run Chinese tabloid that has already been caught spreading lies about Chinas response to the outbreak. Whoopie. So is literally every Chinese news outlet. Exactly what news source from China isn't a state puppet? So tell me, what is the political motivation for them to fake info about lung and immune system damage? Just raising awareness. |
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I am not manufacturing anything. Your continual accusations are based on nothing.
He posted more than enough evidence imo. Claiming that the accusations are baseless over and over again doesn't make it true. |
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GlobalTimes is a state run Chinese tabloid that has already been caught spreading lies about Chinas response to the outbreak. |
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, it is not the government's job to provide for us
That's just your opinion/wish/fantasy and not a fact. The government is of, by and for the people and it they want it to do so then they will. Nope. It is a fact. Read The United States Constitution. Nowhere does it say anything about a mandate to provide for the population. Funny you describe it as a wish/fantasy when that is quite literally what this push for universal healthcare is. That all aside, I clearly outlined why this is a dangerous precedent that is not desirable even if some people are fooled into thinking it is. You're right that Americans do not have the right to healthcare. It's not a radical idea to change that though. More than half the UN countries have some form of guaranteed healthcare as a basic right included in their constitution. Like I said, Bernie just lost himself Florida, a key swing state.
November is a long way away.  |
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Indeed we need socialist/communist politicians in this country - look how well it has worked in California and countries like Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Venezuela, and others.
Street homelessness in tents, cardboard boxes and gulags for you.
The Nazis healthcare system isn't what made them evil. It was because they committed genocide and tried to take over the world. The Soviet Union wasn't a horrible place to live because of their healthcare system. It was because they were run by an Authoritarian who didn't allow any sort of capitalism. Venezuela isn't in a crisis because of their healthcare system. They're in a crisis because they have a an authoritarian president who abused his power for political gains at the cost of the people. Unless you believe Bernie is secretly planning on moving away from Democracy and toward authoritarianism, it doesn't make sense to compare him to all those evil regimes. I'm not a Bernie bro, btw. I don't know for sure what the best path forward is (and I think anyone who thinks they do isn't looking at things objectively), other than it would involve a balance of Capitalism and Socialist policies. Why are you talking about healthcare as if he was saying that was "evil"? Pretty sure he was talking about socialism after my post about Bernie and what he says he is. Germany had their own "form" of socialism with anti capitalism being a big part of it. And while they didn't want to do social programs, they ended up having to and made up some "racial" justification for it. Not like any of that really matters. USSR communism derived itself from socialism. Venezula is in "crisis" because of their socialist government, their mismanagement or the oil resources and the big drop in oil prices which they never prepared for. Could throw in sanctions as well as a contributing factor. I will say though, as someone who has friends there that I talk to regularly, they all are not happy with how the west portrays what's going on in their country. "Misleading" is the nicer phrase they tend to use. You can certainly say it's the people in charge that are "evil" etc.. But then you have to ask yourself why that form of government tends to lead to that. Unless you believe Bernie is secretly planning on moving away from Democracy and toward authoritarianism, it doesn't make sense to compare him to all those evil regimes. I posted what a Democratic Socialist is and that's what Bernie says he is. Not good. And as I said, maybe he's confused. But I went and checked and he knows very well that what he appears to promote is social democracy (he's used that term and he points to social democracies as examples) and yet he persists with using the other term for some reason and it almost looks like he's trying to redefine it for his own purposes. That makes zero sense and opens the door to all sorts of negative speculations as to his motivations for doing that. It also makes it very easy for the right to defeat him as the republicans are experts at fear mongering. Just need to run ads saying that he says he's a democratic socialist followed by the definition. They don't even have to get dirty although you know they will. I agree it's stupid of him to label himself as anything that includes the word 'socialist', but only because most people just equate socialism with authoritarian regimes that have caused millions of people to suffer. I know Capitalists consider themselves 'anti-socialist' and all flavors of Socialists consider themselves 'ant-capitalist', but in reality Socialism and Capitalism aren't binaries. They are opposite ends of a spectrum, and every first world country in the world has a combination of Socialist and Capitalist policies. My main point is that arguments like 'Bernie is Socialist and Nazis were Socialist, therefore....' are not valid arguments. Instead of focusing on the labels, you should take an objective look at his proposals. |
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Indeed we need socialist/communist politicians in this country - look how well it has worked in California and countries like Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Venezuela, and others.
Street homelessness in tents, cardboard boxes and gulags for you.
The Nazis healthcare system isn't what made them evil. It was because they committed genocide and tried to take over the world. The Soviet Union wasn't a horrible place to live because of their healthcare system. It was because they were run by an Authoritarian who didn't allow any sort of capitalism. Venezuela isn't in a crisis because of their healthcare system. They're in a crisis because they have a an authoritarian president who abused his power for political gains at the cost of the people. Unless you believe Bernie is secretly planning on moving away from Democracy and toward authoritarianism, it doesn't make sense to compare him to all those evil regimes. I'm not a Bernie bro, btw. I don't know for sure what the best path forward is (and I think anyone who thinks they do isn't looking at things objectively), other than it would involve a balance of Capitalism and Socialist policies. |
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