Nitrogen - Any time frame on the exchange? I know many are looking forward to it.
We did a limited launch tonight with some of the NBA Playoff games. We got a lot of great feedback from our users, and are going to continue to tweak and add features over the next few days. Hopefully will be fully launched sometime next week. Most likely we will bump our thread at that time. You can get some more information on the 'Exchange Information' page under the 'Exchange' menu if anyone is curious about the details. Thanks |
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Nitrogen - Any time frame on the exchange? I know many are looking forward to it.
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DirectBet - Once again you are making untrue statements about lines that you have and those of other books. Would you like to take this argument to your Directbet thread and keep it out of here? I would appreciate if that could be done. I asked you to just talk about DirectBet but you continue to talk about other books. Other books abide by this request and have no desire to fight with a new start up book. Let the posters rip into Anonibet if they deem it justified.
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We're still getting great daily feedback from the posters. Thanks again guys.
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DirectBet - If you want to talk about your book, let's do it. If you want to talk about another book, leave that to us.
We're in a commercial break. Here's the odds on the total 183.5 Chi/Wash.
Over 1.56 (-156)
Under 1.83 (-120)
What do you think of this?
I'll edit and update this thread so as not to keep adding posts.
Mets total -227/+100
WSox total -156/-141
Tor total also -156/-141
Commercial break. Bulls total -370/+154
Yankees -270/+116
I think you get the point so I'll stop here.
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At the beginning, when this ratings thread started, there was a list of criteria that was used to determine the rating of each sportsbook. We were given a rating of B and Anonibet were the top rated sportsbook with a rating of A. I went over the list of criteria, one by one, and proved that in each and every category we are as good or better than Anonibet. And so I asked Peeps why we are rated lower ? Various ill-informed reasons were given, such as that we offer a smaller variety of bets, which I corrected. If you'd like to read the full conversation, it starts here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6137493#msg6137493A few hours later, Peeps changed the ratings criteria so that Anonibet can be the only book with a rating of A. Not surprisingly, they retained their rating of A and our rating was downgraded to C. Furthermore, the list of criteria used to determine ratings disappeared. Instead, Peeps listed all top Bitcoin sportbooks by sorting them in the order in which they were opened. My question to you Peeps is, what is the reasoning by which you rated Anonibet higher than all other Bitcoin sportbooks ? And I'd like to put this up here for a debate with other users. Lets have a discussion. Do you agree with Peeps, that Anonibet should be rated higher than all other Bitcoin sportbooks ? Posters wanted stricter revisions. One poster mentioned that new books shouldn't be given high ratings. He makes a good point. The changes in the rating system hurt Nitrogen while it benefited Anonibet. In another thread votes were taken and Anonibet was #1. The only book in existence longer than 2 years is Anonibet, They have been in business for 3 years. I'm not sure what your obsession is with Anonibet. The ratings aren't perfect and have to be tailored to markets, offerings, etc for each individual player. The reason for poster feedback is so that we can all read experiences of others and share information. Poster opinion will make changes in the ratings, not you or any other book. That said, I hope that the books will continue to post and answer questions. |
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My account was hacked into at Casinobitcoin. Someone asked for a withdrawal. The money was taken out of my account but Casinobitcoin caught it. They sent me an email asking if I requested the withdrawal. I told them it was someone else and I didn't lose any funds. They put the bitcoins back in my account.
Do you know anything specific re: how the hacking was accomplished? Any tips specific to this incident or book to prevent others from getting hacked there? I didn't ask and I'm not sure how it happened. They asked me to enable 2FA in the future with google authenticator. I haven't had a problem with any other book past as far as someone hacking into my account. |
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Ratings are updated in the first post. Here's what they are:
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
"C" rated books
Casinobitcoin C+ (2013)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
Betcoinsports C (2013)
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
Bitbm C- (2013)
"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Bitcoinlivebets D- (2013)
"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players
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DirectBet- You are defeating the purpose of this thread. BitcoinzRulez is a respected poster that plays at the books. If he has a problem or dislike with a book, his opinion holds weight. We need experiences from all posters in this thread. We have questions for books in this thread. That's the purpose of the thread. Start new threads for personal squabbles.
BitcoinRulez maybe be respected by u and others by being truthful and such, but BitcoinRulez is by far the dumbest poster and better i have ever come across. Please Peeps Place don't condone people to max deposit and max bet at shops that are open 2 months this way they don't think its ok to do something as stupid as this poster, this way at least if the place turns out to be a scam they people won't lose out more then they should have. You were the one that said that the grades shouldn't be given out so easily and that's when the rules were changed. I thought you made a lot of sense. You are also right that I shouldn't condone max bets at "C" and lower. The "C+" books seem good but they don't have the longevity yet. It takes one year to get a "B" rating: Maximum grade based upon time in business: A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players |
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My account was hacked into at Casinobitcoin. Someone asked for a withdrawal. The money was taken out of my account but Casinobitcoin caught it. They sent me an email asking if I requested the withdrawal. I told them it was someone else and I didn't lose any funds. They put the bitcoins back in my account.
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RyanK's ratings based upon POSTER votes. 4.3 anonibet.com ( 7 )
4.2 nitrogensports.eu ( 9 )
4.0 bitcoinlivebets.com ( 5 )
3.2 directbet.eu ( 5 )
3.0 coindrafts.com ( 2 )
3.0 darkbet.com ( 1 )
2.8 cloudbet.com ( 5 )
2.8 jetwin.com ( 5 )
2.7 casinobitco.in ( 3 )
2.5 betcoinsports.com ( 5 )
1.0 bitcoinsports.eu ( 2 )
N/A webetcoins.com ( 0 )
N/A gobetgo.com ( 0 ) |
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DirectBet- You are defeating the purpose of this thread. BitcoinzRulez is a respected poster that plays at the books. If he has a problem or dislike with a book, his opinion holds weight. We need experiences from all posters in this thread. We have questions for books in this thread. That's the purpose of the thread. Start new threads for personal squabbles.
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DirectBet- You stated it took one slow pay to decrease Betcoin's rating. KGambler had problems getting paid by Betcoinsports. They accused him of bonus abuse. Betcoin promised me player logs for a few weeks and never produced the logs. Kgambler took it to the forums and the posters here got KGambler paid. That was the first problem and they weren't downgraded. They then slow paid a poster and were downgraded.
You are being untruthful in the amount of time that your banner was up but I'm not going to clutter up this thread defending false accusations. If you must, start a new thread and title it peepsplace ratings are pay for rating or whatever else you would like. A title will get you more visibility.
You are the only book that would stoop this low. No other book would pull this type of tactic. Let the posters tear into books or how the ratings are done. It's appreciated that books post in this thread to answer questions since it's easier for all to look in one thread. The books have been asked to do this as I will PM the book on occasion if a poster asks a question. The intent wasn't for a book to rip into another book.
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Peeps Place - [to DirectBet] " We thought that your book was strong at one time but DirectBet has gotten worse. If you want, I can go into detail. Normally, a poster would bring this up if he felt the ratings were skewed. You're the first book that I've seen do this.
I've found the DirectBet technology and cs fine (although cs is not 24/7, but this is true of most or all btc books) My problems with them are the problems I have with all the btc books to a greater or lesser extent - poor odds; sometimes only offering moneyline but not spread for a game or sport; slow to offer odds on some sports/events - although overall a better range of sports than some of the other highly rated books; etc. (Again, I have these issue with all btc books to varying degrees). What are the problems with DirectBet you refer to? [/quote] Hold is very high. It's not an exaggeration to see a line of -420/+180. The live lines aren't what they were at the beginning. While they keep lines up at all times, I've never been able to get a bet confirmed until the commercial breaks. My bets are getting rejected. If the bets are only going to be accepted at stoppages in play, the odds are much better at other books. They still have the 7.8 BTC limit which is nice. The Olympic betting was great and I made a lot of bets there. Yesterday I tried to get hoops action in and was never successful. I would send DirectBet BTCs and the bet would say "pending". Some time after that it would say, "rejected". Then I had to wait for a few confirmations before the money was sent back. |
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Keep up the good work Peeps Place!
All other Sportsbooks Ratings threads are pointless!!!
Thanks - It's only as good as the poster's input. |
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Poster write ups on the books have been great. Please post more experiences.
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We're getting some great feedback. Thanks guys.
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Posters should go public with complaints. It would have saved a lot of us money with Coinbet. The posters in this thread have been very honest and credible. The posters here helped to get two players paid. The cash forums are different. Some dishonest posters run to the forums immediately trying to pressure books by creating a mob mentality. We should stay away from this by blindly finding a book guilty.
Peeps, I believe I've had a bet settled incorrectly. I went to the bookie, we had a conversation which contained 10-odd emails and lasted for a couple of days. We were unable to come to a satsifactory outcome. So I went to the community. Just as you would go to SBR if it were some other, cash based, old style book. And in doing so I understand that I'm a dishonest cunt who ran to the forums when a bookie did me wrong. A mobster and a blackmailer. But where in their terms does it say "If you're a flatulent git we'll void your bets at random"? I've posted the bet details. I have no way of retrieving the odds from the other big books at the time I placed it. If someone does, please post here. I'm able to get an archived history of lines from multiple books including PinnacleSports. If both parties agree why not post your first email? It's only fair to show some type of evidence before a book is downgraded. I've been guilty of posting innuendos which I will cease. Throwing insults at each other serves no purpose. It would be best just to stick to the facts. If I am wrong in my assertions, I will definitely apologize and make appropriate grade changes. |
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Posters should go public with complaints. It would have saved a lot of us money with Coinbet. The posters in this thread have been very honest and credible. The posters here helped to get two players paid. The cash forums are different. Some dishonest posters run to the forums immediately trying to pressure books by creating a mob mentality. We should stay away from this by blindly finding a book guilty.
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