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3441  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Terminology on: March 27, 2015, 12:42:13 AM
I couldn't find shill on the list. People are constantly accusing others of being shills here, especially in the alt section. The term could confuse newbies so it might be worth adding to the list.
3442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 26, 2015, 10:16:03 PM

My reading still is that SecondMarket and other "Authorized Participants" have to buy bitcoins themselves in order to get shares from Greyscale.  Isn t that so?


Only BIT buys and sells bitcoin. GBTC can only create shares when owners of BIT redeem their shares of BIT. You can't deposit bitcoin with GBTC.

Is it true the first shareholders cannot sell their shares for twelve months and after that the shares can be freely traded?

What percentage of shares (representing bitcoins) can be sold now?

As I understand it, only shares of BIT that have been owned for 12 months can be transferred/deposited/redeemed/converted to shares of GBTC. Once they are GBTC, they can be freely traded on the open market without restriction.


Is there any estimate of how many that can be freely traded on the open market without restriction today? It's going to be a damp squib if hardly any can be traded until another year elapses.

BIT had 70,000 bitcoin at the end of 2013 so at least 700,000 shares could be put on the market right now but it seems unlikely that everyone would want to sell unless there is a hefty premium. Also, more will mature each month and by Dec 2015, 1,380,000 shares will eligible to be sold.

I found this post in the secondmarket thread that says they had to stop the redemption process because of a SEC rule. They should have had legal experts scrutinizing the rule book for months before to stop this happening.

...

AIUI no one can redeem shares atm.  They had to suspend redemption because of a technicality in the SEC rules - I think it's because you're not allowed to be simultaneously offering new shares and at the same time offering to redeem old shares.
3443  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 26, 2015, 10:02:48 PM

My reading still is that SecondMarket and other "Authorized Participants" have to buy bitcoins themselves in order to get shares from Greyscale.  Isn t that so?


Only BIT buys and sells bitcoin. GBTC can only create shares when owners of BIT redeem their shares of BIT. You can't deposit bitcoin with GBTC.

Is it true the first shareholders cannot sell their shares for twelve months and after that the shares can be freely traded?

What percentage of shares (representing bitcoins) can be sold now?

As I understand it, only shares of BIT that have been owned for 12 months can be transferred/deposited/redeemed/converted to shares of GBTC. Once they are GBTC, they can be freely traded on the open market without restriction.

Is there any estimate of how many that can be freely traded on the open market without restriction today? It's going to be a damp squib if hardly any can be traded until another year elapses.
3444  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 26, 2015, 09:47:11 PM

My reading still is that SecondMarket and other "Authorized Participants" have to buy bitcoins themselves in order to get shares from Greyscale.  Isn t that so?


Only BIT buys and sells bitcoin. GBTC can only create shares when owners of BIT redeem their shares of BIT. You can't deposit bitcoin with GBTC.

Is it true the first shareholders cannot sell their shares for twelve months and after that the shares can be freely traded?

What percentage of shares (representing bitcoins) can be sold now?
3445  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 26, 2015, 09:43:51 PM
Would be interesting to send an e-mail to the real Jorge Stolfi and ask if this is his account. Most of "his" posts are designed to confuse. Rather than inform, which I thought was his aim.

It is a sad state of affairs, but I believe it is the real Jorge Stolfi. I can only imagine what his students think of him spending so many hours on these forums.

Jeebus Creebus,

One thing is the hours. But the content? I don't mind people being critical of BTC, but he has nothing that sticks. He just drones away on lies and stupidity which has been rebuffed countless times. He should get a hobby. Join a marching band or something.

His Wikipedia page says he's anti-bitcoin.

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In late 2013 Jorge took an active interest in the economics of cryptocurrencies. He became extremely skeptical about its underlying soundness and chances of success, and has been advising the Brazilian public against investment in bitcoin.
3446  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [03-24-2015] Bitcoin Exchange Cryptoine Hacked Due To Trading Engine Bug on: March 26, 2015, 09:32:22 PM
Their website says they have decided to close.

https://cryptoine.com/

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2015-03-26 08:36 UTC

We apologize everyone, and thank you all for your understanding.

Attacker acted in hours from 3:15 to 10:00 UTC.

Cryptoine database is reversed to 2015-03-24 03:08 UTC and frozen.

In response to many questions...

There was no break-in to the system
There was no leak of data
Wallet private keys are safe and not compromised
The attacker was not able to execute any external code
The bug has been located and fixed. However, the losses are irreversible. We plan to complete the activity of exchange.

We will enable withdrawals in April 2015.

It's sad to say goodbye to all crypto-community. We need to take a few months break. But we will back stronger and more experienced than ever before.
  
3447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔ $250k Investment, EasyMiner, iOS Wallet, MultiSig, TipBot on: March 26, 2015, 05:40:39 PM
Really impressive. That speed is insane. 5800 TPS?

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DigiByte block size will increase from 1 MB to 10 MB initially, with built in future increases.

I just never have understood this part. What's the point of 10 MB blocks? You can store more data in it, but what kind of data would one store in a block? Or is this just about transaction-data? Like, with current blocksize you would have a problem if you have 87000 transactions in one block? (5800*15 sec block).

There is an argument that bitcoin needs 10 MB blocks to scale up to more transactions. Big blocks can also be used for storage.
3448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: P2P and The dangers of to much freedom without control can be good and bad. on: March 26, 2015, 05:32:06 PM
Many people are concerned that this can be the ruin to internet. 

Please list these 'many people'

I doubt many people think that
3449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Big Players Of The Future on: March 26, 2015, 05:24:47 PM
Absolutely NEM is one of the big projects launching this year. I think the developers and the community are really behind it. Certainly not a pump and dump. Though it may get pumped and dumped once or twice.

The OP gives a tentative launch date of this March and it's almost over.
3450  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 26, 2015, 05:19:42 PM
So if I understand the four punch raiders thing... this should be the short squeeze, right?

Don't listen to what others say about the market. Listen to what it tells you about itself.

Whoa, going to deep bro, 2 DEEP.

Anyways what is the four punch raiders thing? Someone just posted about their little gang of 4 manipulates the market by punching it?

There is a thread about it where billyjoeallen explains it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=956051.0
3451  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Good places to advertise on: March 26, 2015, 05:16:16 PM
You can test on this actual forum of a real response to your site.

If you noticed, the bar that shows where "primedice" slot is, thats where the advertising placement would be and to do this, you`ll have to go the auction thread.

It`ll be the advertising round by the admin theymos that has the auction thread updated.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996061.0

I wouldnt rely on any other cheaper sources, that manipulate the traffic to get you only confused of getting bad stats.

This is the most popular bitcoin forum in existence which makes it the best place to advertise. You will get better results by paying for extra advertising here rather than going elsewhere.
3452  Other / Off-topic / Re: is it bit or Bit coin? on: March 26, 2015, 05:10:11 PM
bit is 0 or 1.

It is Bitcoin. (not Bit coin)

What is the purpose of this thread, exactly?

It is bitcoin (without a capital letter) to label units of the currency and with a capital B otherwise.

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Since Bitcoin is both a currency and a protocol, capitalization can be confusing. Accepted practice is to use Bitcoin (singular with an upper case letter B) to label the protocol, software, and community, and bitcoins (with a lower case b) to label units of the currency.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Introduction#Capitalization_.2F_Nomenclature
3453  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you name your baby Satoshi for 150 bitcoins? on: March 26, 2015, 04:17:11 PM
I think naming your baby after a sub-unit of Bitcoin is inappropriate. I don`t know how people in here just think about that??!!
What people wouldn`t do for money(bitcoins) in these days? Sad  
We must put more value on more important things in life,NOT MONEY. I don`t say that money is not good if you earn it correctly and not by selling your integrity OR your kid`s name..but our lives destiny(goal) is not to make money,but to create a family,maybe a succesfull career and the most important thing to LIVE happily as long as you can!  Wink


I know women called Penny. They are named after a sub-unit of the pound and nobody thinks it's inappropriate.
3454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: METRO Bank's Stance on Bitcoin on: March 26, 2015, 03:37:07 PM
There is a thread listing Bitcoin hostile (and friendly) banks

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=264679.0

This is all it says about MetroBank

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MetroBank: Closed Intersango Account.

If you find out more please post it on that thread.
3455  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Some questions about Mr. Satoshi. on: March 26, 2015, 12:57:13 PM
He used UK spelling so it's unlikely he could be Nick Szabo or Mr. Finney
3456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Leocoin ? on: March 26, 2015, 12:38:31 PM
Seems shady. Is there even an ANN thread?

I can't find one. There was a leocoin user created on June 17, 2014 that has never been used.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=344720
3457  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: EgoPay servers compromised? Sending fake transactions to merchants on: March 26, 2015, 12:28:51 PM
This is the message I get when I try to connect.

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www.egopay.com - Connection failed
Error code 20
The proxy failed to connect to the web server, due to TCP connection timeout.
3458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Looking for Bitcoin millionaires to appear in TV documentary on: March 26, 2015, 12:19:17 PM
...
If you would like to discuss

this further please drop me a message stating your name, contact telephone number and your Bitcoin "net worth"

and me or one of the team will be in touch soon.

Kind regards

Chris


If he was legit he would be providing his name, and contact telephone number at a TV studio.
3459  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: is bittrex safe on: March 26, 2015, 10:03:59 AM
well that is why i store my really long term coins at my wallet.

but i also day trade. there are times when i want to sell then because of confirmation time someone dumped ahead of me

is trex more secure than bter? or maybe hacker will only steal btc and not other alt

Bter has been hacked and as far as I know Bittrex has not been hacked yet. Most of the time if an exchange gets hacked only the high value coins get stolen. If you are trading in low value shit coins they are unlikely to be stolen if an exchange is hacked.

There are no guarantees though, when Cryptoine was hacked some shit coins were stolen along with the bitcoins.
3460  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto owns SATOSHISLIST.COM? on: March 25, 2015, 11:19:01 PM
Yep! I can confirm that (as SGK wrote) you can register a domain without any real identification, therefore you are free to use any fake information.

Every one can register a domain with fake details, but it's not smart to do so, especially if you are planning to develop your site.

People can send abuse reports to ICANN and the registrar itself. Which may cost you your domain.

The site belongs to some one who is trying to gain attention or so. Why else would some one use Satoshi details in his whois.

He gave satoshin08@gmx.com as his registrant email, when Satoshi's old email account that got hacked was satoshin@gmx.com.

He's using that email address to get attention.
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