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3441  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2015, 02:19:09 AM
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strap yourself in for 5-10 years MINIMUM understand that if all goes well you won't need to ever converted to fiat... and have a trading wallet for fun, HODL it like a MOFO, and HODL your trade like a MOFO as well.

your an idiot if you sell everything now and walk away and you know that. ...

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3442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2015, 02:14:04 AM
Bitcoin, as a decentralised corporation, issuing bitcoin shares, is easily worth $10 bill, on today's functionality, operations, brand, audience, usage alone (discounting future expansion). It is waaaay oversold even after violent first leg-up out of overdone (on bankster agitprop) bear market, $660-$700 is nearer current fair-value but as with any Griffin good, once value moves then demand rises paradoxically, so overshoot is inevitable especially with some manipulator mayhem pitched in to the mix.
3443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud) on: November 15, 2015, 01:39:15 AM
I still can't see a single good reason for XT.

what are we going to talk about when XT becomes an old dead memory?
3444  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2015, 01:33:36 AM

Dude...you have some good ideas but need some patience! Longer charts are very predictable...shorter the chart the better you need to be imHo ! Been watching this a very long time and have a good pulse on it!
Don't get greedy set you limits and trust the charts...don't buy into the bs newbie talk on here!

Cheers

I *trust* that in the long term, Bitcoin is going up...but after having sold on the manipulated pump (to $500) way too early, and then having jumped back on considerably later, I went from being a $220 investor, to being a $390 bagholder (any profits I made can be discounted due to tarding on the way up). I have been in and out since then, taking losses on profits that could have been winners had I just braved the admittedly rather scary retest of $300, and then failing to take profits, on other trades, settling in the end for small losses, which of course, all add up, especially when compouded with my momentous HOLD blunder on the break through $360.

Since I nearly every tarding move I make, is the wrong tard, and the tarding moves I decide not to make (such as selling $360 on the way down), turns out to be the right move, I really really need to stop fucking around with Bitcoin and either hold, or get to fuck away from it.

......but, if Bitcoin goes down, it could go down all the way to $260. If I pulled that trade off (my buy ins were actually at $280), that would be a whole lot more Bitcoins, and would compensate for all my recent fuck ups.....and ya know what, now that I have resolved to stop trying to trade this Whale Market, it is a surefire certainty that Bitcoin will dip down into $200s. I am nearly always right on trades I end up not taking. Always have been and it does my fucking knut in.

small word of advice ... you are waaay to emotional to be tarding, eventually you will go full tard and that will be the end of you. You are basically gambling.

You're 220 entrance was good, not great but ok you should have stuck with it. Noone's getting sub-300 coinz again, take solace in the misery of others too.
3445  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 15, 2015, 01:00:36 AM


ummm, the manipulator just showed their hand ... and got drained 2-3k cheap coinz.
3446  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2015, 11:21:49 PM
first we lure them onto the battlefield of our choice ... mission accomplished.

now math, computers and wetware.
3447  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2015, 11:17:21 PM
the new short flash-bomb is being tested ... caution.

other weapons coming on-line soon too.
3448  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2015, 10:56:57 PM
oops, forgot to warn u guise
3449  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2015, 10:32:28 AM
Lol. We have seen it at over 400 just a week or so before, how isn't 390 possible? Huh?

You can bet if we see another unexpected rise the powers that bit will drop tens of thousands of coins on its head again. We're on a short leash here.

 ... and who are you, the watcher?
3450  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 14, 2015, 03:51:21 AM
Inspirational Buy All the Bitcoins Speech

Sons of the internet, I am AdamStgBit, and I see a whole army of my countrymen here in defiance of closed source centralized systems, you've come here to buy and sell on the free market, and a free men you are ( expect for Jorge, sadly...). What will you do without FREEDOM!?? WILL YOU BUY!?

"No! No! we will sell and/or hope for lower prices, if not, least we'll have some fiat, to pay the bills"

Ya ok, buy now and you might lose, sell now and you'll have some fiat to pay the bills.

At least a while...

And drowning in debt many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that, for once chance, just one chance! to come back here and tell the bankers that they may take our mortgage payment directly out of our accounts without asking, and even take the house after taking all our money, but they'll never take our BITCOINS!!!





je suis charlie!

too soon?
3451  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-11-12] Bitcoin has no future, says UBS chairman Axel Weber on: November 12, 2015, 06:14:50 PM
First Jamie Dimon, now Axel Weber... I wonder why all these banking honchos are so confident that Bitcoin has no future.  Smiley
I expected central bankers to be more open minded. So was surprised to read about Bank of England's views.

and it is kind of funny that the bank's CIOs are saying almost the opposite (except using blockchain code word).

Bitcoin is exacerbating a schism inside the banks that was happening anyway between the techies, IT and the 'managers'.
3452  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-11-12] Bitcoin has no future, says UBS chairman Axel Weber on: November 12, 2015, 10:47:33 AM
Sounds like Ken Olsen who said....
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There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home.

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During a financial crisis, central banks such as the Bank of England are able to change the supply of money in order to calm crises, which is not possible to do with a private currency.

He should have added to that statement that they are also able to manipulate and destroy the value of money which is also not possible with 'private currency'.

... or that the primary cause of financial crises is actually the central banks' previous monetary manipulations, which is absent in bitcoin.

Sounds desperate to make noises to remain relevant in a fast changing monetary landscape where they have already lost the intellectual battle.
3453  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2015, 10:25:42 AM
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BTC sure is one hell of a ride...

huge volatility, could be legitimate precursor to a huge move coming, either first leg (breakout) up in a massive wave taking us to new ATH, moon, sex, guns, rock 'n roll, blah-de-blah, etc ... OR pits of zool $10 bitcoinz dead, infested with herpes and beartrolls and bankster-crims 4eva, etc.

bitcoin has got it all, the dregs and outcasts from every fringe group dark and grey money actors all over the globe vying for control, russian-hacker cockroaches, libertarian dark-market ideologues, israeli wire-fraud and bank hackers, wall st. big time crims and politician shakedown sewer rats, london city spiv futures rogue traders ... on an open permissionless platform, innoculation is too kind of a word for what it is going through, some extremely violent system stress testing.
3454  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2015, 09:40:50 AM
Looks like price discovery right now. In these conditions anything can happen.

obvious the pump was on again when the newbie troll-bear posts stopped raining down their FUD and BS ...
3455  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2015, 09:08:38 AM
maybe the uptick in volume suggests that the OTC trade has now moved onto the exchanges ... with all the implications that entails.
3456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud) on: November 12, 2015, 08:53:13 AM
Bitcoin XT is basically a new bitcoin that is profitable for Coinbase. No one supported it from the beginning. No one will in the future. The original is the one and only, and no fake can best it. Bitcoin XT was never going to be a success, anyway.

I suspect XT has achieved exactly the effect "they" intended it to. I don't believe the real force behind the XT push ever intended or believed it would gain adoption.

Beat the price of BTC down, FUD and "divide & conquer", mission accomplished.

The cost to reputation and credibility of Gavin and Mike H. has been significant. Instead of being merely suspicious behaviour they are now clearly in "cannot be trusted" basket. Not even "trust but verify" with those two, default position is "don't trust, don't even bother verifying".
3457  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2015, 07:10:16 AM
You can add delayed deposits to the long list of problems Kraken has been having lately. I hope I didn't totally miss the buy-in opportunity.

fomo?? after all that ... suckers for wall st. punishment
3458  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2015, 04:51:31 AM
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The report concludes that worldwide, private financial wealth of between $21 trillion and $32 trillion is located in secretive locations around the world, where it is either untaxed or lightly taxed.

opportunity knocks ... killer app?

http://www.thelocal.ch/20151103/swiss-remains-on-top-for-financial-secrecy

"Just not tonight, dear."

good one, it sounds familiar, like:

patience is a virtue
and
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
3459  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2015, 04:38:50 AM
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The report concludes that worldwide, private financial wealth of between $21 trillion and $32 trillion is located in secretive locations around the world, where it is either untaxed or lightly taxed.

opportunity knocks ... killer app?

http://www.thelocal.ch/20151103/swiss-remains-on-top-for-financial-secrecy

Well, thatīs like 6000 times the value of all bitcoins in existence so theyīll probably come up with some very creative spin to smear it on bitcoin. Like itīs supposed to be so popular with criminals and terrorists, remember?

well it is ... wall st. is all over it, biggest criminals and terrorizers on the planet.
3460  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 12, 2015, 04:21:36 AM
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The report concludes that worldwide, private financial wealth of between $21 trillion and $32 trillion is located in secretive locations around the world, where it is either untaxed or lightly taxed.

opportunity knocks ... killer app?

http://www.thelocal.ch/20151103/swiss-remains-on-top-for-financial-secrecy
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