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3461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2020, 01:31:29 PM
Local bottom forming, and support strengthening, resistance remaining constant.
Breakout very likely, imho. But also a very good opportunity to counter-trade and dump coins on us.
 Huh what's next  Huh

3462  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2020, 01:19:37 PM
Now everyone will stay at their homes in the hope that things get under control asap and maybe there won't be needed an extension of the full lockdown after this 15 days pass.

Hi bitserve, to do it well, apart from closing bars, restaurants, gyms, cinemas, restaurants, yesterday, when the alert plan was announced, and the president said that "everyone stays at home", it is useless.
If you force a part of the country to shut yourself up at home, but the president says:

That people can go to their jobs on Monday, the contagion will inevitably continue to increase, he is stupid.

Spain as always, making a fool of itself due to its political leaders.

I hope that we can overcome this crisis without reaching extreme situations.

I think when he says people can go to their jobs on monday he means somewhat critical jobs or ones not open to the general public... most business have already shut down or slowed down themselves. You can't just shut it down EVERYTHING.

People know they should stay at their homes already. If there is some business that keep running it is probably because they NEED to... so I wouldn't force them to shut down unless strictly necessary (ie: after we get some results/stats about the success of this first preventive lockdown).



Right, everybody knows spreading is inevitable. Even B. Johnson.
But if infection rate isn't going to slow down very soon, many unforeseen and unwanted side-effects will accumulate into a BIG mess, even bigger than the mess we will be going through within the next few weeks/months. It's just a question if you want to get stabbed in a hand or in the liver.
But don't worry. Give it some more weeks and everybody who is unwilling to learn will finally do it. Even if it's in a very hard way.

EDIT: Avoiding closed spaces would at least help a lot with the spreading. The virus doesn't survive for long times outside. That's what the virologists say. As long as people are gathering in rooms, halls, churches, factories, markets (i remind you of wuhan wet market), the disease will spread, faster and faster.
3463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2020, 01:01:58 PM
Spain enters official nationwide lockdown.

So does France from midnight.

Looks like everyone is starting to take this shit seriously. Except maybe UK... I donno if it is because they are doing good or ignoring the problem.

The UK is adopting a different strategy than the potentially knee-jerk reactions of others. Slightly simplistic use of props here but the message is accurate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl6tTwxzCi8

It may be that only the UK is approaching this rationally. Time will tell.

There is a science called "complex system theory".
The basic outline: If you respond to complex problems (like an exponentially spreading virus outbreak) with a simple solution, it is inevitable to fail.
There are many, many examples in history.

EDIT: And Boris is as simple as simple can be.


So you go shopping to the brick and mortar shop: it's a mess because you cannot simply go in: as a security measure only one few person can enter, so access is reduced, hence big queues. Also while queuing you must stay  distant. Result are very long queues outside food supermarkets (in a sense , now I understand those who raided shelves a few weeks back).


Something like this:
https://vm.tiktok.com/pa7gpD/

No idea where it is taken.
I live in a city, similar queues, little bit less daunting scenario.


The weather also makes the virus stay alive on surfaces longer. Man, i hope you all get out of this very mess soon and healthy, i even told the kids that the annual vacation in Italy is likely to be suspended for 2020   Cry
3464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2020, 12:51:08 PM
I hear china is trying to blame the US for this virus that leaked out of the chinese shit tier biowarfare lab in wuhan..

If so, then totally fuck them..
Start some shit china bitches.. Go ahead..

I mean.. If we are already going to be in wartime conditions.. Eh..
It is my humble opinion that China must be destroyed. China delenda est. Delenda is now a WORD, spellchecker. Holy shit.

They literally unleashed a global plague upon the world. If this doesn't at the very least result in some very severe economic sanctions, the world is truly beyond fucked.

In these... sensitive times... more confrontation is the least we need.
Just look back at history an learn what offensive politics brought to us so far.
What's happening is all to similar to what happened just before ww2.
The ordinary people are to pay the bill for any mess that is started or fueled.
You can't be saying that you want this, or do you?
3465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2020, 12:39:06 PM
https://www.khealth.ai/

Maybe something useful ....

My brother in law is a doctor and he was telling me the benefits of vitamin D3 and Zinc lozenges for minimizing the risks of the coronavirus. Something about zinc and the cells during first contact...check out this article about it.

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=228691

Disclaimer: article says no more than 150mg of zinc a day

Careful.
Zinc is depleting copper, which can get you in even worse immune and heart conditions. The safe margin is 50mg (effective) for zinc, and for medium term. So it depends on the form of zinc you take. Picolinate is most effective in metabolisation, so you have to take much less of it that Zn-oxide, for example.
I have issues with my colon and i take effectively 30mg zn (picolinate) per day since more than 8 years. I get some health problems if i wouldn't and my copper levels are monitored regularly. These are always a tad below normal, but i have to take 30mg ZnP for the same effects as a healthy person might have from 5-10mg.
Zinc helps building and restoring mucosa. That's the reason for the immune "boost".

SARS-COV-2 is very effective. It needs no more than 1-2 viruses on mucosa to get you infected.
I doubt zinc will help a lot here, but if you suffer from herpes labialis, herpes simplex a lot, gum bleeding, soft and broken fingernails as well as dry skin and skin eczema, it will help and won't hurt.

When you catch a virus, a keto diet should help in improving healing and symptoms, also in prevention, as even lab tested in vivo (with mice). Hairy M.L. left a link some dozens of pages before about the lab results.
3466  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2020, 11:57:39 AM
woke up on alarm
blockfolio said corn's up
more than 3 percent

still cough and joint pains
my wife calls me "covid" now
me: it's just a flu

happy haiku sunday  Grin

+merit on replenishment later....

thanks dude, no problem
infos are more important
the show must go on

--------------

Austrian province Tyrol officially on lockdown now, as it's the national hotspot (shares italian border). An infected waiter in an apres-ski bar infected many tourists, possibly in the hundreds, mainly from scandinavia. According to virologists, apres-ski bars are very efficient spreading facilities. Also because of the lazy way to "wash" (rinse, tbh) drinking glasses. Real virologists order beverages in bottles when they go out, i heard in a recent interview. So will i.
No more public meetings allowed here, parks closed, bars and restaurants too. Police will be watching from tomorrow, army reservists are called to duty. This is fine...

EDIT: corrected some embarrassing grammar errors.
3467  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2020, 11:43:41 AM
woke up on alarm
blockfolio said corn's up
more than 3 percent

still cough and joint pains
my wife calls me "covid" now
me: it's just a flu

happy haiku sunday  Grin
3468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 15, 2020, 09:45:44 AM


What's it like under lockdown? Are there shortages of things in the shops when you go out to buy food?

Situation in Austria (not Australia) is similar, we are about 10 days behind with infection counts when compared with Italy. We should reach 1000 infections today, at the current pace. About 1000 testings per day are possible. 6k done so far. 1 dead.

You know all the work/life data from fillippone already, but there seems to be a secondary effect:

Many families are staying at home together, which brings them more closely together, in an emotional way. No father/mother is distracted from being close to their loved ones by working all day and spend their earned money on hobbies or "useless" goods. This might be enough for many to question their life priorities, maybe it will be enough to shift their consciousness from being a tiny, tiny cogwheel in the global clockwork of economy, to more important things in their relatively short life than chasing wealth before dying. The economy doesn't care if worker no. 2.122.391.231 dies and is of no more use, because worker no. 2.122.391.232 will happily take his place. And so on. I'm quite happy to see the start of a transformation in the people throug a shift of values. Crisis always seems to bring people together, helping families and neighborhoods to unite. They way it meant to be, probably, until monetarization and ever growing consumption distracted us all.

It may also lead to a new baby boom. First i was laughing about this thought, but think twice  Wink
Many couples where working all day, going to the gym, going out, considering having a baby is too expensive...
Now they don't know what to do with their time, at home, in a nice warm bed...  Grin

I was sleeping almost all day yesterday, medium fatigue, woke up with a cough, pain in joins and muscles and a sore throat. Raised temperature, but too low for fever. And tiiired. That's why i didnt post.
May have already cought the CoV at Judo training last week, maybe it's a coincidence. I don't care, it's very mild. Not even a runny nose. All our kids are also more or less sick a little, only the two youngest ones with a little more intensity in symptoms, coughing pretty much at night. Also pretty normal. My wife is allergic, you wouldn't be able to tell if she's sick, coughing and sneezing and tiredness already for three weeks now.
Nobody goes out, just the children playing in the woods, nobody else is near. We have food stocked for two weeks and enjoy the close family life, all is well.
This is fine. I'll go take another nap now.
3469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 14, 2020, 05:51:32 PM
Global markets will continue to go down, but at certain point bitcoin will stop sliding, and that moment will be beautiful, as next it will start going violently up

& that is the moment i want to catch to buy. Tax refund fiat incoming in 3... 2... 1... (weeks, unfortunately).
3470  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 14, 2020, 05:48:24 PM
Where we going at  Shocked

Probably going to win the halvening prediction game?  Angry
But i don't really want to, if you know what i mean...

These insecure times will shake out quite some hands, i guess. But after that, slow recovery should take place and depending on the world economy sentiment, we could moon again. 2021 ATH may be cancelled, though. 2022-2024 will probably take us to flying heights again.
We'll see, we'll hodl.

Holy shit Oom, 2021 is quite a fucking long way away.. I mean we have more than 9 months before entering and another 12 months

(let's see maths)..

which would be 21 months before exiting...

Holy shit.. you think that we might not make ATH before then?  Bossian is going to take LFC's money?  Omg.. omg... Never would have thunk, and still I have a hard time going down that belief.. .we are not even really outside of the stock to flow model or the four year fractal model or other convincing BTC price prediction models that would suggest that we have decent chances of even getting to new ATH in this calendar year or even in early 2021... jeez, louise...  Shocked Shocked Shocked

I just think of something like an ATH delay. Mainly because of market insecurities and (big) miner politics. S2F is a model that has to prove itself at least for another market cycle, starting with capitulation before halvening, which we kind of already had 2019, but maybe not. Maybe capitulation is now. But who is clearing 9 year old addresses? I don't have the links here on my PC, and maybe titter is a source nobody can really trust, but i guess somebody will sum up the recent market events in a nice summary, which will hopefully be found by a WO member and linked here.

Bossian... You know by now, i hate to hate people. But i would so much like to see him lose the bet.
3471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 14, 2020, 06:44:38 AM
Today is the first day in like 2 years my nocoiner friend mentioned BTC and that he'd like to buy because he heard "it dropped 50%"  Grin Bullish!  Cool

Wow. Most people of that ilk think either 'it's ded' or 'it'll go lower' and then buy 5 minutes before the peak several years later.

Your man sounds like he was born to it.

When i picked up the kids at school today (which is closing down for at least two weeks now) i heard other parents talk about investing in bitcoin, because the price sunk $1000 (...) "No, it's even down $2000! ...", "Then i'm gonna buy for sure now!" ... (and so on). I didn't join the talk, but what i really heard from it was:

"Bitcoin is low, i'm gonna catch the falling knife"
"Bitcoin is even lower, i'm finally buy the blood and become a coiner"

So i guess that BTC will tank even lower after the rise from $4.x cools off.
Many people gonna loose their newly invested money to the whales, at least to some good percentage.
I'll wait for it. I can still buy on the way up until about $6.5k if i'm totally wrong.
My final word (opinion): Bitcoin will go lower before the slow rise to next ATH. When i look at all the pumps after 04/2019, i'd say the bottom could be somewhere between $3 and $3.5k.


You sound a bit too bearish, out of memory.  After a quickie 63% correction, it is likely better to be betting on up rather than down.. although I know that you are not shorting.. but you are hesitating to buy, and I suppose that is not really bad.. it is just seeming a bit overly pessimistic.

Good morning!

Yeah, i might sound too bearish because of the $3k - $3.5k range, but i will buy at higher prices too without much loss (or much less gain, if you want to see it that way).
I'm easy with holding out and waiting, in times of uncertainty i refuse to make moves, because this has brought negative results in the past, mostly.
3472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2020, 08:07:51 PM
So I guess we have a day or so to find out if we have a dead cat bounce or a double bottom. Either way, the price will likely go down a bit.

Unless you're buying or have urgent financial need and have to sell or spend I'm not really sure why anyone's bothering to pay attention to the price. It's going to be all over the place for the next 2-3 months at a bare minimum with little relation to fundamentals, reality or anything else one can whip up.

It's like worrying about your hairdo after you've been beheaded and the basket that caught your head is on fire.

Merited for repeatedly giving me the best laughs on the interweb.

....

Yesterday we closed the border to italy. Unilaterally, like i'd expect from our snoddy, arrogant chancellor.
I heard rumors about traffic jams all the way down to Udine. Can't verify, but sounds a bit too extreme to me.
Finally, people here are starting to grasp the situation. Schools were planned to close next wednesday, today the government preponed that to monday.
Infection hotspots in Tyrol were put under quarantine. All shops closed from monday, except gas stations, pharmacies, food stores and the likes. Worried people starting to run hospitals and doctors, because the covid hotline is overloaded.
we're about two weeks behind, with only 2 dead (afaik), about 450 proven infected now. Was 202 two days ago.
I don't have to tell you what that means.

So does anybody think i'd care about the price of bitcoin?
3473  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2020, 07:48:35 PM

Raising awareness is good, but risks are always there. We always have a probability to simply die in the next few seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades... A different probability for each of those, and depending on circumstances either internal or external for each individual. We need to be aware of that and act according to it. Disproportionally reacting to those probabilities is never good nor logical.

That being said, yes, the situation is that world is facing a worldwide crisis in ways beyond just a financial one. The Italy example is perfect to know where we are all going... yeah, all developed countries. We were wondering what was wrong with Italy... and just a few days/weeks after we are at the same stage they were. Some countries are still in denial but they are raising awareness even if slowly.

But no, we are not all going to die. This shit will pass. You just need to adapt, neither ignore nor overreact. Otherwise we maybe should consider directly ending our own lifes to avoid being infected... which would be kind of stupid.

And if shit REALLY hits the fan... well.. it will also pass, the only difference is that all of our current first world "worries" will be all gone. Some will die, some will live. But life will go on.

Seconded.
On the other hand, most of us drive cars in public traffic, every day. Accidents at speeds above 30mph are potentially lethal. Additionally, most people i know that passed actually died in cars. Not from cancer, a flu or violence, nope. Car accidents. We risk our life every day. Second: Drugs. Not the nice ones, but mostly pharma stuff combined with other deadly drugs like opiates or alcohol. When you look at causes of death, ranked by occurances, and compare that with what most people fear to die of, it will leave you wondering (at least).

Set your limits, establish hygiene and prophylactic routines, stick to them no matter what. It gives you a feeling of (self)control and this is the foundation to stay clear and focused in times of trouble. Don't think ahead too much, but rather trust in yourself to handle the current situation in the best possible way, whichever and whenever it may occur. Always try to know what to do. It's the opposite of panicking.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and watch "Zombieland" both parts. It's just a horror-comedy movie, but it teaches the viewer about the benefits of developing rules and stick to them to stay alive. No need for developing compulsive strategies, though.


3474  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2020, 07:29:11 PM
Does this look like someone fighting a virus?



TBH, the way these guys wear their masks looks more like inviting a virus  Shocked
3475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2020, 07:18:24 PM
Where we going at  Shocked

I dunno, brother. All I know is Rick wants to go out for TexMex tonight with a friend that is in town. I don't feel like driving downtown in my baby, parking at his office, and having the chance of our Uber driver being all coughing and sneezing.

Probably just drive ourselves to the restaurant, and ditch the Uber; end up in a restaurant filled with coughing people eating tacos with hot-sauce, sneezing pico de gallo everywhere.

Sheeit.

I picked a bad time to have anxiety/depression.

"State of Emergency" declared in Dallas County, Gov. Abbott declares "State of Disaster" for Texas, and Rick wants fucking TexMex.

Just...

In Europe we're advised to stay home unless we really need to go out, restrict social life as much as possible. We're about 1-2 weeks ahead, so i'd recommend to think ahead and adjust. Stock things you need, before everybody else hits the supermarkets.
For anxiety/depression: It helped me a lot to adapt to a belief that my time on this planet is limited, until a special "expiration date", regardless what i do to avoid or delay it. Now imagine you're in the future where you reach that date and just died. As you look back onto your life, ask yourself what would have you done differently, starting from NOW. What did you really want to do/achieve and didn't yet do it because of whatever. Go into yourself and meditate that.
At some point you will hopefully see clearly what you want and what you have to do, to get it. This is life. Depression and anxiety is just like being semi-dead, waiting for the expiration date. Don't trust the voice in your head that keeps you from doing what you want. Because it will try even more so, after you find out what you want to do with your precious life.
Sounds esoteric? I know. It helped me a lot to get out of the depressions of my 30s and to become proud of the nerd i always wanted to get away from, just to fit in.
Life just doesn't work like that.

EDIT: Still it was a piece of work to get out of the hole, but it payed somewhat off for me.
3476  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2020, 07:00:42 PM
Where we going at  Shocked

Probably going to win the halvening prediction game?  Angry
But i don't really want to, if you know what i mean...

These insecure times will shake out quite some hands, i guess. But after that, slow recovery should take place and depending on the world economy sentiment, we could moon again. 2021 ATH may be cancelled, though. 2022-2024 will probably take us to flying heights again.
We'll see, we'll hodl.
3477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2020, 05:03:13 PM
Nothing to show now!
Last day of less mills gritt course.
3 weeks all is closed Sad


^
For starters

Look at the bright side:
you will save a lot of cash.
more money for corn!

Mills gritt is paused.
My advice: do some planking
To maintain your strength.

May someone go on?
And then somebody else, too?
For endless haiku.
3478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2020, 02:22:01 PM
The Brazilian president tested positive for our fave disease. No doubt Trump massaged his prostate during their visit a few days back. There seem to be an awful lot of politicians getting it but that's par for the course when you mingle with hundreds or thousands of people per day.

That's why i heard his secret nickname is "Donald Thumb".
He can massage a prostate while squeezing both balls with two fingers each.  Shocked
3479  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2020, 01:30:56 PM
I also skip YouTube videos. Usually they host people that are not able to simply condense their thoughts in a couple of words or their points are boring anyway with the only solution of hiding it in a 15m Youtube talk.

Give me the printed letters or it won’t happen.

They don't get any money unless it's over a certain length.

Youtube becoming a prime conveyor of information will cause the minds of the human race to melt. I can read something in a few seconds. I'm not going to spend minutes scrolling between coughing, cursors that move like a sedated slug and yards of drivel to find the one sentence I need.

I regularly suffer from sleep attacks when watching youtube videos. For real.
Most time i wake up because the back of my head smacks against the wall. My couch has no backrest, only a dozen of pillows. More like a bed in the corner of the living room. However, this is also induced by the baroreceptors near the spine. I lean back and relax, five minutes later, at max, i'm out. Born workaholic  Grin
But when watching youtube's influencers videos, or trying to, sleep attacks kick in even when sitting at the table. The only difference is that my head nods forward. I kissed my keyboard more than once, already  Roll Eyes
3480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 13, 2020, 11:35:44 AM
Today is the first day in like 2 years my nocoiner friend mentioned BTC and that he'd like to buy because he heard "it dropped 50%"  Grin Bullish!  Cool

Wow. Most people of that ilk think either 'it's ded' or 'it'll go lower' and then buy 5 minutes before the peak several years later.

Your man sounds like he was born to it.

When i picked up the kids at school today (which is closing down for at least two weeks now) i heard other parents talk about investing in bitcoin, because the price sunk $1000 (...) "No, it's even down $2000! ...", "Then i'm gonna buy for sure now!" ... (and so on). I didn't join the talk, but what i really heard from it was:

"Bitcoin is low, i'm gonna catch the falling knife"
"Bitcoin is even lower, i'm finally buy the blood and become a coiner"

So i guess that BTC will tank even lower after the rise from $4.x cools off.
Many people gonna loose their newly invested money to the whales, at least to some good percentage.
I'll wait for it. I can still buy on the way up until about $6.5k if i'm totally wrong.
My final word (opinion): Bitcoin will go lower before the slow rise to next ATH. When i look at all the pumps after 04/2019, i'd say the bottom could be somewhere between $3 and $3.5k.
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