i'm sorry for you but being the thread public everybody can evaluate the legitimacy of our proposition. In fact, every doubt you had has been well explained, no problems at all from our side.
ok, now we know that you still read discussions on this forum, so then it makes sense to ask you to stop spamming the forum promoting your shady service. stay within your ANN, and don't impose on us everywhere any praises about your helios...
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404706.0Maybe you can see in this post here then. It's the same OP right ? Se day of opening scam accusation against the Exchange he opened against Bestchange Also let's say he didn't find the Exchange from your site. Still read that other post whatever there it's true. I even did try by my self and Exchangers allowed to leave bad reviews and leave the good ones. Oh wait you wearing Bestchange signature so .... What will you say rather than argue in a side thing to leave the whole point. Btw : Bestchange representative admit to allowing Exchanges rove bad claims automatically. So go ahead argue about side things If I wear signature if a business with bad business practices I will feel stupid too. aaand?! how exactly did you conclude that bestchange should return the money kept by openchange? at this moment we are talking about your conclusion, not about whether the rating system on the site is good or not. Get the remaining 10% from Bestchange who referred you to that Exchange.
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It is possible, but that Best Change still has that scam site on their list does not look good to me. Regardless of whether I referred the OP or not.
A site that only provides an email address, freezes funds and upon protests only returns 90% is a scam, and within the detailed explanations Best Change has given on many other topics, he has not gone into this one.
yes, you are all right. the Openchange site and everything I found on it does not inspire confidence in me, in my personal assessment, there are many more parameters to treat them as a scam, than as a trustworthy exchanger. I am of the opinion that they must be removed from BestChange monitoring, if nothing, due to the 10% retention. that is theft. My previous comment is a reply to @aew, who reaches into someone else's pocket and decides how the money will be distributed.
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I got 90% back. First post updated. I'm tired and done with this shit.
Get the remaining 10% from Bestchange who referred you to that Exchange. For sure they got a lot of commission as referral revenue from the exchange by letting the exchange remove the bad reviews and let the good ones. Who says that BestChange referred them to this exchanger? Is not possible that he reached that exchanger directly and not using Bestchange service, in the end, I didn't see in the first post that he stressed something like that.
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Thanks for reply, didnt see that. I am glad i got my deposit back. They are scammers, really dont understand how this can happen in 2022.
To be honest, we are also here whenever we see a new accusation against 1xbit really can't understand why is this still happening? after so much time, and various discussions, there are those who ignored all that and deposited in 1xbit fraudsters? Since your case is positively solved, I suggest you log out from 1xbit and forget about them. Also, you don't need to open two identical threads about the same case, so you can lock one of them.
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God exists .... I hope that all the fanboys and members of the project are mobilized and have finished the story by now... ...but https://www.minexcoin.ltd/?a=home they probably still scaming people on similar way this is an obvious fraud, a randomly generated template with stock photos. although I would say that it is just a coincidence in the Minexcoin name, I doubt that the same people are behind this.
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as the wearer of their signature, it is obviously necessary for me to write my position on this whole matter. So here is. I personally do not see Best_Change's deliberate participation in any kind of fraud here. they do monitoring, they don't pressure anyone to use any service or even they can't guarantee that all trades will go perfectly. there are many third parties that are not under the control of BestChange. I saw in several places where they clearly indicated that they are not financially responsible for any transaction. looking at it this way, BestChange has almost no responsibility for any transaction that takes place at the exchangers on their list. (maybe this way of seeing the situation is not the best) Someone mentioned that this is not the first case against BestChange and one of their partners, that's true but as far as I know, most of them are solved positively mostly thanks to the authority that has BC at exchangers. I definitely agree that the current user rating system on their service is more than bad. In a way, it is completely centralized to the detriment of ordinary users and to protect exchangers. negative experiences with some exchangers are still experiences and it is necessary that other potential users see them. even if a problem is solved, I may want to avoid that service after reading about all other experiences. this is a big lack of the BestChange platform and over time it can cost them their hard-earned authority. Regarding the active Openchange case, I would like to see what possible sanctions will be taken against them. I followed the Janyiah201 case, management by Openchange commenting on the BestChange site, and it is an understatement to say that it was unprofessional and impudent (unfortunately, everything has been deleted ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ) Now they declared the case solved, but they kept 10% of the value? For what? a transaction that never happened? so do they still deserve to stay on this monitoring or even without any negative(true) comment? So, JollyGood this is my short statement and for now, I still haven't considered leaving the signature campaign, at least not for the reasons that you state as sufficient. otherwise, if all the members of the BestChange signature campaign would report here, and if the majority would give them support, how would it be interpreted? Paid and biased support on the forum?
I am not even sure how websites get's listed both on BestChange and similar websites like TrustPilot, and we can clearly see big exchanges there like Binance, Kraken, Bittrex, etc. I don't think CZ or other owners would paid anything to BestChange for listing there or they gave them some percentage, but than again only they have few negative reviews on BestChange website. CZ has a referral program, and my guess is the other listed exchanges do the same. wasn't there already a discussion about this in the BestChange ANN thread about these exchanges? They gave a clear indication that it was only an informative listing. and it is clearly indicated on the site itself. For example https://www.bestchange.com/binance-exchanger.html![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F1v82hC8%2Fimage.png&t=665&c=1tFg9PZuL6R_0A) it was implemented for the sake of protection from "consumer terrorism" That's a lousy excuse. Every services on the planet can receive unwarranted negative reviews somewhere on the internet. That makes it up to the customer to decide how they value reviews. Giving the service the power to censor reviews makes the reviews utterly useless and worse: misleading. Absolutely correct, that’s why we don’t remove reviews with at least to some extent grounded negative opinion, but just on our service they have “white background”. And red highlights relevant financial claims. Due to the fact that the system automatically switches an exchanger with several claims off, we allowed them to lift claims on their own (as, generally speaking, the option for the users to re-open the claim if, according to them, the financial question hasn't been solved). as mediators, you are trying to make a compromise between your clients and their users, but it seems that it does not provide the same quality to both parties. Your rating system looks more like solved or unsolved, but the user experience cannot be considered black or white. you have to provide more.
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You misconstrued what I wrote, there is no bias attached and I am not acting as judge, jury, executioner or anything else. Your presumption to that effect is ill-concluded since there was a counter-balance written yet you picked and chose what you wanted to take the meaning out of context. In effect, Best Change is employing people to promote it and in light of the latest allegation where their brand name and business ethics was called in to question here SCAM EXCHANGE MONITOR: BestChangeI asked for signature participants for their views because either they will support the way Best Change is conducting business therefore should be happy to defend it and therefore to promote it... or they are not happy with the way Best Change conducts business therefore should not be happy to promote it and therefore should not promote it. If signature campaign participants are unhappy with the manner in which Best Change conducts itself and are unwilling to defend it but at the same time are happy to promote it, then that in itself raises a different question about their own moral behaviour. $400 a month plus bonuses for several members is a lot of money in many parts of the world and that can cloud judgements of even the most capable and rational people. I am waiting for the Best Change forum representative to give their own views on the allegation in question and their signature campaign participants could or should do the the same before concluding what they feel is the best course of action for them. Will any signature campaign participants conclude the best course of action is for them to leave and find a different signature campaign?
Can you ask the questions in a less biased way? With this rhetorical question you are trying to force the participants in the campaign to do what you want them to do. You are acting as judge and jury, condemning Best Change, without the trial having taken place. you say exactly what Poker Player wrote, I absolutely agree with him. now if the two of us already understood your words like that, maybe you should think about whether you expressed yourself well. I also came to the conclusion that leaving the campaign is a "must" because there are criticisms of the owner. whether the participants of the signature campaign are the most important part of the whole business? I haven't had enough time for the forum in the last 2-3 days, although I followed a famous case. due to the lack of time, and there are already certain positions that I agree with. I did not consider my participation (as the bearer of the Best Change signature) in the discussion to be urgent, just didn't want to repeat things over and over again. now I will do it anyway, to make an official note.
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while neighbors are celebrating Salah staying, we let go Richarlison to Tottenham, and that is a sign that next season could be as bad as this one and there is no Burnley to save us this year, but hopefully Fulham will be there to relegate instead
nevertheless, for me it seems that City will dominate next season in Premier, but CL will be their headache again
I think Man City will still have a chance to get into the final but to talk about this club's defeat I think it's still too early to decide because they still have professional players who I think can surprise the crowd and fans of Man City. Mason Greenwood and Cristiano Ronaldo are professional players who still remain a very important hope. What are you talking about? Greenwood and Christiano are Manchester United players, not City. Plus, Mason Greenwood is probably done with his professional football career in PL, at least at the highest level, due to a private rambunctious scandal. it's been like this for more than half a year.
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Thanks for the answer, but unfortunately I don't understand how to use an image editor and I just resized the image for the avatar I posted. LOL But that's okay, I also still like some of the avatars in the OP.
Send me this image, or post somewhere what you want to have in the background of the BestChange logo, I'll do it for you. I am not a design master, but I know that much ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I will not trust anyone from this piece of shet forum anymore!
I think you will again do the same mistake. On 5th October 2020, you did the same mistake Scam Report Against RoyalKey and lost 200$. On April 07, 2022, Scammer ===>> davidTef scamed you with 90$. Now someone scammed you with 25$. You never learnt the lesson. he is obviously just too naive and believes everything he reads. I believe that after the 10th scam he will be much more careful. OP, I suggest you create a flag on Dadan profile, so it will be visible on all its threads and everyone (even guests) will be warmed. it could significantly ruin his business here. I leave them a red tag, now I guess it's much more visible.
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He will eventually drop from the DT list and his rating will become meaningless. For a while you’ll still flash red but it will eventually disappear. You shouldn’t worry about it that much. However, the fishy part here is verifying the death of this individual. Some forum users go dormant for a few years and come back later. You can’t assume that they are dead.
TMAN, no one knows what happened to him. Bruno, everyone knows he died. Lauda, left the forum. There are many users who are not with us for different causes. All cases are different. But I think it is safe to say, when anyone die and if this is confirmed then people will remove him from their trust setting since his judgement does not reflect the current value for the forum anymore. that was always a dilemma. if some proven forum user has stopped coming here (no matter what is the reason) whether that is a reason to be excluded from the DT list? For example, should we distrust TMAN because it has been offline for a long time thus hiding all the negative tags he left? He TMAN is left some inappropriate red feedback (in my opinion) in the Best_Change case he might as well change his mind if he is active, but I believe he should stay in DT because he did a lot of the work marking risky accounts.
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The same guy posted again in Altcoin discussion about the same scheme even after getting responses in the other topic in service discussion. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404480Guys, has anyone heard smth about Intelfin Group companies? I read the reviews, it seems fine. They work with crypto. The yield is around 13% per month. Their plans seem to be serious. They even do co-financing. I'm lost whether to try or not. I 'd be grateful for any info. Here's the firm’s link: ~cut~
I think he is just promoting the suspicious site in the forum. Is it OK to flag and tag the profile based on this? You can mark them as spammer, or as much as you can if there is evidence anywhere that the site which they promote is a scam. this is already the better basis for the red tag and potential flag. He is a Newbie, his account is not worth much nor will the red tag cause him significant damage.
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Glad to know that payment was made on time and smoothly. This is my second payment from the campaign, thanks Best_Change. So here goes, I'm interested in using this avatar but I need to know if I have permission to use it? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8AdCh0T.png&t=665&c=neWmVDlxNw2gjw) I have been in this campaign since the 3rd week (2 and half years), and as far as I remember there was no payment delay even once. indeed maximally responsible. About your avatar, I would enlarge the BestChange logo a bit, just to be clearer. however, it is best to wait for approval from the campaign manager.
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Yup I know very well that there is new version.
Thats why I mentioned in my review, there should be notification right before I install any package.
why would anyone deal with the old version if a new one already exists? it is logical that this is an improved version and that some bugs have been fixed. the old goes down in history. As I say, dkbit98 explained why is important to use the latest WasabiWallet version. I'm not rushing you guys, but I expect to see your review within three weeks. Payments will be sent to everyone at the same time after the last review is published (maybe I will remind once or twice to those who will drag the rubber).
I plan to do my review this week, BUT I would like to say that everyone should download latest version 2.0.1 of Wasabi wallet before starting any testing. They fixed a bug related with recent Tor ddos attacks, and Wasabi would be almost unusable without Antifragility pack that was released yesterday. Don't use any Wasabi version older than 2.0.1https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/releases
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REVIEW - WASABI WALLET Review is done on the MacOS + M1 device. The software is easy to download from the official site. In my case I downloaded it from the bitcointalk link provided as shown in the below snap. I would say you didn't follow the discussion just a couple of posts earlier in this thread. there is a new version (2.0.1.) of the wallet, and it is desirable that it be used for further testing Also, dkbit98 explained why https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5402090.msg60464906#msg60464906even if there wasn’t that conversation about the importance of the wallet version, while you were taking the screenshots, you might have noticed a message that there is a newer version than yours available. it is to be expected that the owner wants to test the current condition, not something from the past. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FfNYC9Yr%2Fimage.png&t=665&c=r9u_rwbrsqQecw)
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Bounty team are looking for free marketing. They do not care who is alt and who is real. As long as the keyword typed and spreading around the internet, they are happy.
Exactly. If one person can promote in a good way, the manager may not complain that it is one person behind multiple accounts. I believe KYC in bounty is likely to turn down real users because they don’t want to just share personal information, while hunters with bot accounts will already find a way to pass KYC. it seems that it will only lower the quality of the campaign participants.
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And, last but not least, I've no problem to find a long-term member to be an escrow for the trade. However, keep in mind that the escrow fee is not included in the price ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) for you OP, escrow is more than mandatory. you don’t want to go out with the extra possible delivery costs. I certainly believe you are both aware that for escrow you need to find some established and reliable member, it can't be a newbie member for sure. good luck with your business.
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You obviously have no experience so do not comment. I came here to hear other people personal experience. I only heard positive experiences from people who are in the sistem. I'm asking this because I have much bigger investments plans than them. Thanks and goodbye
That's the weirdest excuse I've heard in a long time. Does identifying scam need to try the platform? Absolutely not. There are too many red flags that make you avoid this platform without even trying it. I would like to see where markvin saw those positive experiences? I did a little research and didn't find any true review about this service. if a published personal experience about Intelfin exists somewhere, maybe the OP could share it with us to make sure the rest of us.
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