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3501  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: July 03, 2023, 09:27:05 PM
Getting the gamblers into debt is not something a legit betting agent would go.
This guy(the betting agent) is most likely a gangster/mobster. I know that the gangsters, who a operate a gambling business always want to hook more gamblers by giving them credit and making them their "slaves". The combination of a "loan shark" service and a gambling business is pretty dangerous for the gamblers and borrowing money from such gangsters might totally ruin their lives.

You have a very good point there,  because, from the action of the gambling agent, he seems to be comfortable and used to the incident because even though I try to Enlightened him of the danger of his action and how he risk losing the money or paying from his salary he was acting as if it not possible and that brought me to the conclusion that his mode of operations.

And just like you rightly said,  his aims may be to enslave the gambler truly and if care is not taken,  this is not the first time they are having such an agreement to allow the player to gamble on credit.
3502  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Have you, or would you ever use a Bitcoin ATM? on: July 03, 2023, 09:15:38 PM


I am pretty sure that most (if not all) of the BATMs that are buy only, they still are accepting cash.. that is their main value proposition.  If you are using credit/debit card to buy bitcoin, then you would not need cash for that, but surely those kinds of machines would seem to be way less useful.. and so why not just have an App for that?  In other words, the physical presence of a machine seems to be useful for dealing with cash whether they have both buying and selling of bitcoin or if they ONLY have buying.
Well, I am very sure that Bitcoin ATM users will avoid those Bitcoin ATMs that are configured for buy only because since those BATMs most time request for ID scam before if usage and transaction it then means that the Bitcoin ATMs for buy only are drawing us closer to centralization since that bitcoin bought through the buy only BATMs are traceable to individuals since there is a submission of IDs.

But I can still use Bitcoin ATMs to either withdraw Bitcoin to cash or better still use Bitcoin ATMs to pay for merchants or at POS for retail shopping.
3503  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: July 03, 2023, 09:09:14 PM
I have seen a good number of people benefiting greatly from referral programs and mostly those that have people that wager a lot under them are the ones making the most out of referral programs and if you see anyone complaining about referral affiliate programs being a way of times it means there have not truly and entirely taken part in the affiliate programs the way there should and that is affecting their earnings.

I have seen some people that have only one down as affiliate marketers and they are not making any attempt to make any improvement to that situation,  this could be the reason why some people see affiliates as a waste of time.
3504  Economy / Gambling / Re: Consider open live casino (street gambling games) on: July 03, 2023, 08:01:56 PM
where there are a lot of street gamblers, but even as a gambler myself, I've never tried relating with such street gamblers simply because street gambling has never been my thing, and I don't think it will ever be, their lifestyles alone disgust me and reason why I keep away even farther from such gamblers.
I agree with you on the part that self-control plays a vital role in our everyday lives and the way we interact with others within the same environment,  and just like you said,  birds of the same feeder flock together and if people are not of the same mindset there is no way there will be attracted to the same thing.

Environmental influence may be high individual character development,  but then having self-control can help one to avoid all those stuff that can negatively affect us.
3505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Verified twitter, telegram account is the strong point for a new project? on: July 03, 2023, 07:43:56 PM
My friend informed me that at this time many upcoming project social account like Twitter, telegram is verified.
Does that mean these projects can be trusted?
Having a verified social media account doesn't guarantee the legitimacy of the project and since we know the current situation with most of the social media platforms where everything is being monetized.

Twitter since Elon Musk take over have gone through a series of reform and a lot have changed getting a blue badge is now easier as long as the team can pay the fees,  but it doesn't mean anything in terms of project guarantee or security of investors funds.

In fact, many are encouraged to invest in any new project following this.
What is your opinion on this matter?
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3506  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is Stake.com allowed to lock account with $6,000 untill I lose it all? on: July 03, 2023, 07:35:48 PM


It is indeed unfair to the players to be subject to endless KYC processes and this mostly happens when the customer wants to either withdraw or deposit an amount higher than $5,000 gamble should be aware of that risk and try to make their transactions below that amount.

It is a lesson for everyone to learn about KYC when it is requested that is why we need to make enquiry about a casino procedure for KYC and if we are not satisfied on it we can walk away and check the next door. It is not just about the amount to be withdrawn but to be sure we get the KYC verified before committing to stake. If for example KYC was already verified then when there is no release of funds, that becomes a pure red light for possible scams.
I agree with you on that,  the big lesson there is that it is better and more easier to pass through KYC when it is not triggered but opted in by the player from the beginning,  this is why I always advise people to always perform at least level one KYC at the point of registration as long as you already trust the casino and want to play on the site.

Handing out KYC documents is not too much of a big deal,  if you don't have anything to hide like users in the US have been facing this level of restriction and verification demand since most casinos in that region are regulated.
3507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: July 03, 2023, 07:09:10 PM
Depends on the amount you have won for sure. Well, many players are having the idea of winning as well, likewise with the few who won big time. But once you got in such position, perhaps winning the jacpit, there is a high tendency for you to play more and longer. Reason is the excitement and greed you will feel in such moment. But this is not to generalize; there are people who managed to get out of gambling industry after winning big time. Bottomline depends on the kind of gambler you are. Once you let your emotions play, things would be different for sure. Ofcourse it would be better to be able to quit the moment you got such idea. Problems arise once you struggle.
You are right and I have been a victim of this on multiple times and it is not funny how it feels when you lost almost everything trying to chase more winning or getting carried away by the excitement of the first winning.

So since that bad experience,  I have learned to make sure I take off all the winning once the games are over and there after I take a break for a while to cool off because it has been proven times without number how not setting self-limit has ended gamblers in bad situation or corner for multiple numbers of time so it is important to set that limit in place before venturing into playing any games.
3508  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is Stake.com allowed to lock account with $6,000 untill I lose it all? on: July 03, 2023, 07:03:41 PM
this is an old scam practice of the sites. endless verification for nervousness and playing the balance. countless have been cheated like this.
 Embarrassed
Despite the fact that some shady casino could make the KYC procedure so unbearable and unrealistic,  it is important for us to make sure we have all the available evidence to prove the injustice of those casinos and how we nail them in the end.

It is indeed unfair to the players to be subject to endless KYC processes and this mostly happens when the customer wants to either withdraw or deposit an amount higher than $5,000 gamble should be aware of that risk and try to make their transactions below that amount.
3509  Economy / Gambling / Re: How does AI gambling sound? on: July 03, 2023, 05:30:11 PM
~snip~
That is a logical conclusion surely, the casino AI will win the battle since there is a house edge factor by their side. I doubt anyone can be smart enough to use AI for beating the house edge. Casino games have some variables that show when and how much players can win. These seeds are created in the perfect math formulas and no matter which tool the players use it is impossible to beat the house edge in the long run. Just my 2 cents.
I also think about what you said because casinos don't want their business to lose because of the wins of players who use AI. A casino can do a lot to keep winning, and we know that the casino will win. But maybe some gamblers have successfully used AI to beat the house edge but not many. But it's still the casino that will win because many gamblers will experience defeat in the long run.
Because of the revenue generation motive of the casino, to make it more impossible for the players under whatever guise to defeat the casino and this is why most bots are detected long before their even think of winning a bet from the casino.

And I am sure that in the case of AI, it won't see any positive outcome in the long run since AI is already a well-known development and casinos know it's potential and strength so there will prepare for its possible usage in their casino.
3510  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is Stake.com allowed to lock account with $6,000 untill I lose it all? on: July 03, 2023, 03:33:43 PM
Mate don't take this as an attack but just a friendly advise that before you place your first bet on a centralized casino,  you should first make sure to have pass through all the kyc process.

Unless you have not made up your mind to gamble at the casino if not,  KYC should be the first thing you should take care of because if you want to verify the account when it runs into trouble,  you may find it hard to pass through the verification process due to pressure to withdraw your winning.
3511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does lottery rewards expire? on: July 03, 2023, 08:30:07 AM
Wait again,  if it is an online lottery such as offered by a casino then I think the reward is automatically credited to your accounts once your number is the lucky number and logically some lotteries such as physical lotteries of those played in the casino would have an expiration date and if the prize winner doesn't claim the winning within a certain time,  the winning may be revoked according to the term and condition and if this becomes the case it will be clear to the player to know the stances and the duration of claiming the prizes.
3512  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: How difficult life would have been without Cryptocurrency awareness in Nigeria on: July 03, 2023, 08:15:40 AM
I use to think about how difficult things would have been for us as a Nigerians if there was no Cryptocurrency, considering how difficult it is to get a well paid job, I wonder what would have become of us, but with the help of Cryptocurrency  things became  more easy with many ways of making money through crypto as such most people now prefer online than working for someone. But Most times I use to imagine the way this country is moving, thousands and millions of unemployed youth, to even make the matter worst government doesn't even care about the welfare of the citizens, they does what they feel is right undermining if citizens are okay by it or not, There are millions people graduating everyday but no job.


You're life before you started crypto and now which one is better? Let's share our experience.

Every revolutionary tool such as the internet,  industrialization and digital financings like Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have a trance generational impact on the life of the revolutionized,  but also note that not all Nigerians most especially youths are interested in cryptocurrencies and we still have low percentages of the general citizens unaware of what bitcoin is.

So for that,  we must have a clear standing before making assumptions on a general basis in discussions such as this,  there is no doubt that cryptocurrency has helped quite a lot of us most especially those who found this forum and constantly engage in the discussion that have helped to shape the understanding of Bitcoin /cryptocurrency including blockchain technologies.

Cryptocurrency impact could also mean different things to different members here.
3513  Economy / Gambling / Re: won cash x drop but no prize?? on: July 02, 2023, 11:09:57 PM
I try as much as possible to avoid playing games that are supplied by third-party game providers,  this is because most of the problems arising from their party providers are always unresolved and in the end, the players end up being sent to and from the casino will ask the player to contact the game providers and the game providers also ask the player to contact the casino.

So in the end,  the player is left with no choice but to abandon the case and move on to other things.
Isn:t most casino or new casino is partnered with third party game provider now a days? I always see that in scam accusations of users playing casino then being banned because game providers detected unusual behaviours of the users. They usually reply and tell that generic message that you are banned but wouldn't tell you specific reasons.
That is part of the reason why I avoid them as much as possible third party games I prefer the in-house games from the casino because if you have any issue with the in-house games you can easily get answers and possible resolutions unlike the third-party games that you are left in the dark to figure out what the reason for the bans are but if it casino games most especially those casinos that have a good reputation.

They will always give information and explanations as to why you get banned or even the crime or offences and it is possibly a solution if the offence is not up to the one to ban your account.

So is a big difference between in-house games and third-party games providers.
3514  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅🍅 wintomato.com 🍅Dice 🍅 Slots 🍅 Sport Betting on: July 02, 2023, 10:43:25 PM
What about solving the multiple accusations against this casino instead of publishing several promos or bonuses because Wintomatos has lost its popularity all because of scam cases that sprung up against the casino and the team's failure to react to them appropriately. ..

So it will be nice to see some positive changes,  in the reputation of the casino and that can only happen if the team can solve all pending cases.
3515  Economy / Gambling / Re: is KYC data on Gambling sites safe? on: July 02, 2023, 10:25:36 PM
I think it best to avoid casinos that demand for KYC from its users recklessly without any form of activities from the player that looks suspicious and if the casino can not provide security of the data their ask for why then will their ask of it in the first place.

Look like gamblers are a bit left in the dark for this,  since it not clear to them what exactly happen to their KYC detail at the backend,  and no casino will ever come out to say that customers' data have bee leaked and stolen, so the gambler may think that he is free meanwhile his IDs may be used to carry out crimes thatt he may not be aware.
3516  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Enlighten people about Cryptocurrency. on: July 02, 2023, 10:09:03 PM
since Nigerians have been the most victimized people when it comes to cryptocurrency-related frauds e.g scam Bitcoin investments and other crypto-related schemes, this has made room for all kinds of misinformation, misinterpretation of Bitcoin and what it entails.

Mate, I don't think it's only Nigeria; in every country, there are usually crypto crimes and those that paint Bitcoin black. Even US is also inclusive among country where most citizens have committed some funny acts that put others in doubt about Bitcoin (crypto crime). Even North Korea, the UK, China, Russia, and other countries are never excepted from countries where crypto is not painted black by some people; in fact, it's a general thing; no country is a saint in crypto crimes.


Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺
Baba the thing with Nigerians is that we overdo things and in some cases when it comes to financial crime,  Nigerians are recorded among the top people that engage in these illegal activities even though we have other countries whose citizens are worst than Nigeria in wired frauds and schemes.

But the major reason why the CBN give the ban on bank vs cryptocurrencies transactions is due to the rise in the number of Ponzi schemes perpetuated using Bitcoin and other altcoins as means of payment or investment tools but in the end, the scammers pulled several exit scam on the investors when the bubbles burst.

But aside from that,  Bitcoin is just a victim of circumstance and due to Bitcoin's unique features,  scammers seize it as a formidable tool to carry out their scheme activities.
3517  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Bicycle fit be the game changer on: July 02, 2023, 10:01:48 PM


I know say risk dey for bicycle too especially for busy cities but because of the small speed of bicycle, accidents no dey kill like motor and okada accidents.

My people how una see am?


No reason mmmm oooooh,  because there is nothing like a small risk because every accident fir take person's life,  so you no fit say because of the low speed of a bicycle, it accident won't kill somebody because what if in a situation where the bicycle rider is run over by a car on a busy road,  take it as if someone results into the use of a bicycle to go to work instead of a car due to high fuel price?

So we have to put a lot of things in check when making some decisions or assumptions about the advantages of a particular thing.
3518  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Situation in france problem on: July 02, 2023, 09:03:21 PM
The current situation in France seems normal. I mean, it's certainly not normal when people burn cars and rob shops in broad daylight, but in France it's quite normal. They are always dissatisfied with something there, and they are used to expressing their dissatisfaction with rather radical methods. The difference between the current outbreak of protest and the previous one (about raising the retirement age) is only that the previous outbreak of protest was deliberately hushed up by the world media, and the current outbreak of protest is also deliberately promoted by the world media, and so these are typical protest outbreaks in France that are approximately the same in intensity.
Violent is never a way to express dissatisfaction because the outcome is always devastating at the end,  like the present situation in French should have been handled in a more civil ways instead reacting with violent protests all over the place that has led to the loss of life and properties in all quarter.

Sometimes the police could act a little bit overboard but hey there is the law and what the citizen could do is just to play and avoid getting into trouble.
3519  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 02, 2023, 08:47:49 PM

I don't agree with you, Ancelotti had everything he wanted to have this season, and in the end, he couldn't win the title against an unexperienced and young coach like Xavi also he lost some El Clasico games this season and in the champions league he couldn't play in the final match, these all can show us that Ancelotti is not the best coach and I think for any reason if  Ancelotti leaves Rel Madrid Zidane can be a good option and even better option for them.

I agree with you; the truth is that everyone in Spanish la liga admits that Carlo Ancelotti is past it except Real Madrid; it is unsure why the Madrid board continues with the talisman; yes he is good for the coach, but he is past it and needs to retire haha. Zidane looks like someone waiting for the France Job; unlikely to work for any clubsides until then.

Also, Ancelotti has been able to replace the ageing squad members with excellent signings; kudos to that!!!
Do real Madrid really need a change of coach as you speculated because the coach is doing a great job recruiting the best and finest players for the next season and in the Spanish La Liga,  Real Madrid has the best squad possible to establish a commendable team that will help real Madrid to recover their previous position both in the la Liga and champion leagues respectfully.

So even though the coach is an old coach he will still can deliver a good record for the club in this coming season and even if Real Madrid will have a change of coach it will be after the 2023-2024 season.
3520  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: July 02, 2023, 08:35:07 PM
Snip~
The truth is that a player has a lot of things at stake just like you have rightly mentioned both money and emotions are two strong factors that always control the way we bet on a casino and in other to be able to avoid sliding into indication on the long run trying to chase a particular direction unchecked.

You are right in the area of the casino not forcing players to place bets and the decision is solely left for the players to take,  but in the long run it all ball down to the fact that the casino already has a system in place to always put the interest of the casino first against that of the player and this position have put casino user in a corner were ther either rely on luck to make a winning and because of that player have to double the stakes in other to record some winning that could compensate their efforts.
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