I am no expect nor my English is my main language, but his writing seems ok to me.
I'm a native English speaker and I can say that he is either a really lazy kid, or he is not native. He uses slightly strange word combinations and misses conjoining words often. I can't find an example at the moment as I am on a phone, but I'll check it out soon. He must be a Chinese scammer
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This Chinese scammer is still sleeping, hope he can't wake up, let him die on the bed ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Dogs are fucking him
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there is still only 1 address mining this coin...the devs... it will only take 1.5TH to do a 51% attack...if everyone started mining for 15 mins if would raise difficulty level up so dev would be unable to keep the blockchain going..you would end up with a non syncing wallet and maybe a better chance of a refund
good idea, who can help us to 51% attack this shit coin blockchain, tks. If the blockchain not working, we will get refund
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i find it intresting as well that the dev hasn't deleted any posts its been about 8 hours since he last deleted sleeping china i'm hoping he's realised that he's not gonna get the ICO money and run off if doesn't come back within a set period of time say by end of week then bittrex should consider that a default and refund
yes, he must be a Chinese, fuck the scammer and his all family
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imagine if bittrex releases the funds and the dev dissapears, they would be ruined, aswell as they would get sued. i hope they are thinking of all this aswell. their is quite a good bit of evidence that this could be a big scam, and if bittrex doesnt responsibly listen to the community and ends up releasing the funds and it turns out to be a scam, they are just as in on the scam as the scammers, them being enablers of the scam and will have much legal trouble because it could have been prevented
No sorry, go back to law school. IF Bittrex doesnt' release the funds they can be sued, the terms will be met. They are the escrow, they are not supposed to decide on what is right or wrong with the future of the coin, or what the dev did in the past. There is an agreement, in black and white, they read the agreement, and if the agreement was met they release the money, if it was not met, they return the money. They are the escrow, not the crypto police. it is a legal problem, its a contract, and it must be followed you guys are grasping at straws here and blaming the wrong people PPL get scammed, that will be also criminal, in US btc is legal money ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Really bad move on Bittrex part if they fail to execute the deal because buyers had a change of heart.
~BCX~ (totally correct)
It's called doing the right thing.Snipped a lot of text trying to support positionThat's just a matter of perspective and your own unproven fears. Has anyone proven this is a scam? It's not Bittrex's position to determine what is a scam and what is not. ~BCX~ That's just a matter of perspective too. Some would disagree with your view. They are simply the escrow.
The escrow is there to ensure a service/product is delivered before the money is released to the provider. If Bittrex willingly release those funds knowing full well that the product/service won't be delivered then they have failed in their escrow duty. No? Bittrex has to follow TO THE LETTER the terms of the escrow agreement. They simply look at the agreement, then look at if that agreement was met. IF the terms are met, they release the BTC to the dev IF the terms are not met, they dont IT IS THAT SIMPLE I am so sick of people asking/expecting Bittrex to just break the agreement because this Cluster dev because it looks like he is a scammer. Bittrex has a job to do. Their job is to follow the agreement TO THE LETTER. I lost, or Im pretty sure that I'm going to lose a decent amount of BTC because of this. But I would be and idiot if I expected Bittrex to commit a god damn felony and break the terms of the the agreement to save my ass. ALL I had to do was look up the post history of the cluster coin dev and I would have known right then and there that it was a scam. I DIDNT = I LOSE
It was my carelessness that caused me to lose my BTC. I don't even blame the damn dev, yeah hes an ass hole, but it was me who was lazy and I learned an expensive lesson on this one. You people who are asking Bittrex to break the law to save your ass because you didn't do your due diligence are complete idiots.They claimed the terms are informal. And they were agreed to modify the terms to add POD must be done. Therefore, they can help us more like adding more strict terms to avoid a scam because they can talk with the scam dev. BTW, if it is a scam, bittrex will also take responsibilities because they host the ICO
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fuck, CLSTR fucking pig dev is deleting posts again
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I am no expect nor my English is my main language, but his writing seems ok to me.
does he look like native speaker? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) I am no native speaker myself but I would say no, he is not. I mean who uses ` instead of ' ?
We've started to develop the concept of ClusterCoin not that long ago. You may see in the white paper what we are going deliver and you must understand how promising, ambitious and complicated this project is. At this very moment we are not ready to publish parts of the code as it is not ready for the release. Those of you who are familiar with C++ development probably realize that developers don`t just jump into coding of complicated projects. Careful planning and prior modelling must take place before that. ClusterCoin main idea is to divide block chain into GEO clusters is well understood but still needed to be modelled prior to implementation. As for now we are exploring how system behaves in user-populated environment when two or more GEO clusters are present. We use MatLab to model this situation. Modelling is crucial to make sure the whole ClusterCoin network will be stable in future
I don't know how to respond really. If I will start reassuring that we are not running away with BTC that will provoke everyone to scream even more. I understand your concerns, but we are really have intention to develop this coin. You all showed support during ICO, why don`t you show same support now? Timeline is there, POD is coming and you all saw confirmation on that. CryptoAsian have my personal phone and skype - he is free to video call and interrogate me at will. And with the amount of violence threats I just will not post any personal data here.
We have agreed with Bittrex that the coins will not be released before we get the POD, so you don`t need to worry about that.
Zmizmi you just wasted 2 hours of my life and your life. Neither of us don`t need that to continue so I will answer you one last time:
We have nothing to do with USE. Please stop this pointless spam.
I sent him request twice. He missed my first letter and responded on the second one two days ago with the application form. Me and other team members filled it and sent him reply today. Sorry for all the delays but I`m forced to sit here and keep an eye on the spam instead of doing something usefull.
Maybe I'm getting hung up on small things but it looks weird ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) so many times also yes, I find his habit too, and some places are used ' so I guess many ppl shared the account
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I am no expect nor my English is my main language, but his writing seems ok to me.
does he look like native speaker? ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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too many scams, 国产币那我就操你妈全家了,和clstr一个德行
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His timezone on the forum doesn't say anything, you set it manually. Tho his posts usually meet Europe daylight time.
Sorry, shouldn't be timezone, I mean his online time is same as mine, Chinese time. How do you think his English? Chinese English?
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His timezone is Chinese, same as me, and Chinese scammers like buying accounts to make scam coins. Some ppl said the dev's English looks like Chinese English, how do u think? I am a Chinese, so i can't judge his English is native or Chinese English
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If the dev is real, worst case is he doesn't get funded and a shaky idea that likely wouldn't work anyway doesn't get developed immediately. If the idea has actual merit, it will get developed anyway, eventually.
If the dev is a scammer, worst case is a scammer gets 350 btc.
The downside to giving him the money is much, much worse than the downside to not giving him the money.
Very simple decision. Do not give him the money.
yes, if you and me are bittrex admins, we will sure refund.
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Not real sure whats going on here and not sure whats a IPO coin? These are the coins you have to buy upfront correct? If so does anybody remember getting physical letters in the mail saying if you send me $1 then once 25 people also send me $1 I will send $2? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) So if im thinking along the correct lines people bought in these coins, now their worth crap and the escrow is giving all the money to some dev? Enlighten me.... I think it all started after the ICO. People noticed the strange evidence and started selling. *correct me if i'm wrong. This guy keeps deleting every single post even when I asked for an update several times he just deletes the post: A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Enough deleting posts and show some github updates since there are none.
4 developers working a project should easily provide some work in progress which until this point didn't.
Prove us wrong and show some work so all the fud goes away.
Thanks. This stinks of scam. yes, but bittrex still doesn't admit these. bittrex is afraid being sue, although they did informal agreement.
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Really bad move on Bittrex part if they fail to execute the deal because buyers had a change of heart.
~BCX~
It's called doing the right thing. If the Bittrex support team smells a scam, they will do the right thing, and return the money of their customers. See, the thing is this. You are saying that Bittrex's intentions to not execute a deal- if they smell the deal is backed by illegitimate intentions by the other party- is a bad thing? If the ClusterCoin developer is a scammer, that means that the developer of ClusterCoin won't honor his deal he promised his ICO investors- all those features. So what is stopping Bittrex from not honoring a deal also- when they have evidence that the ClusterCoin developer is a scammer? Last I heard, Bittrex does not deal with scammers. If they realize that they are hosting an ICO for a scammer, they have EVERY RIGHT to cancel the deal.To the dev of ClusterCoin; if you are a man with legitimate intentions, I am sorry for the position you are currently in. These times are hard on altcoin developers, as a lot of promises remain unfulfilled, leaving investors in the dust. But, when you deliver results, all FUD will vanish, and you will have a very strong community behind you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) BUT, if you are a scammer, here are my words for you: Karma will get you. totally right
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754271.msg8516436#msg8516436If you want IPs, get a legal request for information, such as a court order. It's best to have a "chain of custody" so to speak when it comes to things like this. If we handed out IPs to any random who asked, and violence of some sort ended up happening, then we would be on the hook if we couldn't show a paper trail of who requested the information. If you are on the up and up and don't plan on doing anything illegal, then there shouldn't be any problems with this. Court orders (which, again, are just a legal request for information) are standard when requesting information from third parties.
Thanks for the response BadBear, would you be able to tell us if the accounts in question have overlapping log ins from the same IP? That would answer the question without disclosing any information that could cause you legal or ethical problems. There is a considerable amount of BTC riding on this decision, any help you can render would be greatly appreciated. R. Yes they do, though they are shared with many accounts, so it's likely either an unknown proxy/vpn or bought accounts. HERE ARE 100% PROOFS NOW
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If you want IPs, get a legal request for information, such as a court order. It's best to have a "chain of custody" so to speak when it comes to things like this. If we handed out IPs to any random who asked, and violence of some sort ended up happening, then we would be on the hook if we couldn't show a paper trail of who requested the information. If you are on the up and up and don't plan on doing anything illegal, then there shouldn't be any problems with this. Court orders (which, again, are just a legal request for information) are standard when requesting information from third parties.
Thanks for the response BadBear, would you be able to tell us if the accounts in question have overlapping log ins from the same IP? That would answer the question without disclosing any information that could cause you legal or ethical problems. There is a considerable amount of BTC riding on this decision, any help you can render would be greatly appreciated. R. Yes they do, though they are shared with many accounts, so it's likely either an unknown proxy/vpn or bought accounts. Tks very much, you will save several hundreds of victims.
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If you want IPs, get a legal request for information, such as a court order. It's best to have a "chain of custody" so to speak when it comes to things like this. If we handed out IPs to any random who asked, and violence of some sort ended up happening, then we would be on the hook if we couldn't show a paper trail of who requested the information. If you are on the up and up and don't plan on doing anything illegal, then there shouldn't be any problems with this. Court orders (which, again, are just a legal request for information) are standard when requesting information from third parties.
Thanks for the response BadBear, would you be able to tell us if the accounts in question have overlapping log ins from the same IP? That would answer the question without disclosing any information that could cause you legal or ethical problems. There is a considerable amount of BTC riding on this decision, any help you can render would be greatly appreciated. R. Yes they do, though they are shared with many accounts, so it's likely either an unknown proxy/vpn or bought accounts. I have been using VPN service for a while now, atm I am using purevpn.com. I have no clue who that usecoin dev is and when and how our IPs overlapped. because you are the same scam!
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