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3581  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We are all Hodlonaut on: August 22, 2022, 01:10:13 PM
but also that he still has control over all the Bitcoins that he mined - and some fear that more than anything else.
I don't disagree, but there are far bigger issues than early coins being confirmed as not lost, such as CSW endlessly harassing every developer until no one wants to work on bitcoin anymore. Any coin which is not provably lost should not be assume to be lost. If Satoshi is still around and has the power to end this nonsense, then he should.

The court did not focus on whether he is or isn't Satoshi but ruled that calling him a moron was defamatory.
Don't forget that the judge very explicitly called him a liar multiple times, and noted that he had put forward a deliberately false case.
3582  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 51% Attack And The Effects It Poses on: August 22, 2022, 12:51:50 PM
A 51% attacker doesn’t follow the consensus rule, won’t the operation be known to other miners immediately assuming he doesn’t do anything dumb to be noticed?
My point is that no 51% attacker would do this.

You can churn out as many invalid blocks as you want, and the rest of the network will ignore them. There's no point going to the huge cost and effort of accumulating 51% of the hashrate to then mine a chain with more proof of work but which contains invalid blocks which will be rejected. All the blocks a 51% attacker generates are still perfectly valid and will be accepted by the rest of the network. There is no process by which nodes can reject blocks based on who found them, or indeed, even say for sure who found them, if the miner doesn't publicize that.

Operating a single well propagated nodes will cost a lot. Is it something that can ever be feasible at all? The other miners won’t dictate any fowl connection with the node possessing such power? and then mining a block swiftly in the chain?
You are confusing miners and nodes. It is trivial to run a single well connected node. You can do it on almost any home computer.
3583  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mixers that mix bitcoin without letting it be obvious that it came from a mixer? on: August 22, 2022, 12:20:07 PM
If peopler never fought for their rights, we wouldnt have any. More and more surveillance is bad economically and doesnt prevent criminality, the reasons for it are actually based on weak defences.
This. I have yet to see any evidence that blockchain analysis and mass invasion of users' privacy leads to less crime or fewer instances of money laundering, just like there is no evidence that general mass surveillance of the population reduces terrorism or any of the other nonsense the government feeds people to justify their actions. It's never about the things they claim. It's about control of their populace.

You started the post reasonably, but there you are again, franky1. Starting to include subtle disinformation, and gaslighting techniques.
It doesn't matter if they do. As I showed earlier in this thread, if you so much as withdraw your coins to your own private wallet and away from KYC enabled platforms, then you have already earned yourself a red flag. Whether or not you then open a Lightning channel is immaterial.
3584  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] Bitcoin Layer 1 Privacy - concepts, ideas, research, discussion on: August 21, 2022, 08:00:31 PM
Solution: PGP. Bob can't deny he asked for money if he signed it.
Absolutely. And how many merchants, both online or in person that you have spent bitcoin with, use PGP? For me, the answer is zero. Even getting peer to peer traders to use PGP is a challenge.

And regardless, even if everyone did use PGP all the time, that's entirely separate to bitcoin itself. If you want to use PGP as a solution, then there is nothing stopping me from also applying the same solution to Monero, for example. You give me your Monero address via PGP, and I can release your address along with the other necessary information to prove I paid you: https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/prove-payment.html
3585  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Megathread] Bitcoin Layer 1 Privacy - concepts, ideas, research, discussion on: August 21, 2022, 07:49:06 PM
If you can't do that then there will be a lot of people who are going to start popping up saying that they didn't get their money.
I'm not convinced that this is a drastically different scenario to what we already have in Bitcoin.

Alice pays Bob.
Bob denies receiving payment.
Alice publishes a transaction hash which anyone can look up.
Bob denies the receiving address in that transaction belongs to him.

If Alice is really lucky, she has some correspondence from Bob with the address in it which can be independently verified and which Bob cannot deny. On the other hand, there is a good chance the address was a one time address generated by a payment processor plugin on a website and she therefore has no independently verifiable record of the address.
3586  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 51% Attack And The Effects It Poses on: August 21, 2022, 02:11:36 PM
Chain reorganization occurs when nodes receives a new block in the longest chain, they deactivate the previous longest chain and update it with the new block provided. It is not certain that a miner who has more than 50% of the hashrate will alter the upcoming block.
This statement is very muddled.

Chain reorganization occurs when nodes receive details of a valid chain with more proof of work than the chain they are currently following. This would usually, but not necessarily, be a longer chain. They don't "deactivate" the chain they are leaving - they simply leave it. The chain still exists and is entirely active for anyone else who chooses to follow it. Further, "altering the upcoming block" doesn't really make sense. Nobody knows what the next block will be until it is mined, so it is impossible to "alter it". A 51% attacker could instead alter already existing blocks by replacing them in favor of a malicious chain with more work.

The bad person (who owns 51% hashrate power) has more control over the block reward and the ability to add the block to the blockchain with more than 51% hashrate power. The miners following the correct rule-see this and decline to accept the block. And as a result, the bad guy's work is pointless. You must manage several nodes and operate them simultaneously if you want to swiftly confirm your block and upload it to the blockchain.
This isn't right either. A 51% attacker's blocks will still be entirely consensus valid (unless they do something really dumb) and therefore accepted by all other nodes who are following the consensus rules. And operating a single well connected is more than enough to have your winning block propagated and confirmed.
3587  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Need help recovering funds from forgotten wallet on pre-'15 blockchain(bug) on: August 21, 2022, 01:57:24 PM
%[CcHhAaRrSs]%[ CcHhAaRrSs]%[ CcHhAaRrSs]%[ CcHhAaRrSs]%[ CcHhAaRrSs]%[ CcHhAaRrSs]%[CcHhAaRrSs]%[CcHhAaRrSs]%[CcHhAaRrSs]%0,2d%2d%[!@#$%^&*+?]
That's a strange arrangement.
If you want to use 9 characters from the same set, then use %9i[chars] (which says use exactly 9 characters, case insensitive), rather than repeating [CcHhAaRrSs] 9 times. For up to 9 characters, use %0,9i[chars].
Your digits at the end are also strange. You are telling it to use between 0 and 2 digits, immediately followed by 2 digits. Why not just use %2,4d instead?

I would suggest using --listpass first to at least make sure you are generating the type of passwords you think you are before letting it run for 28 hours.

How do I do this?
The instructions are on the page that PawGo linked to above. Once you crack your password, just dump the wallet using that password and the commands given on that page, then pull out the necessary private keys.
3588  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Street Selfie? Why all these crazy requirements in the name of KYC verification? on: August 21, 2022, 01:40:37 PM
Lol. Is this what people are subjecting themselves to these days in exchange for the privilege of being allowed to give their coins away to a complete stranger and lose all ownership rights of them? You can take out a credit card with a bank statement with your name and address on it. You can fly around the world with a passport. But those things are obviously beneath the almighty "Cloudbet", who need a bank statement, passport, street selfie holding a newspaper, video of you saying "My name is x and I love Cloudbet", and the password to your email account so they can check the bank statement you gave them was actually emailed to you directly from the bank. What a load of horseshit.

Every day that goes by I seem to be more and more justified in my stance of never completing KYC anywhere.
3589  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: I found a paper wallet on a beach ... seriously on: August 21, 2022, 01:25:10 PM
And you can connect the address to a bot on Telegram, for example, that would notify you as soon as there is movement on said address.
Or just create a new wallet on Core and import all your canary addresses in to it. Since your node is running 24/7 anyway, then it will immediately know about any movement. From there you can set up a local notification system to send an alert to your phone or something similar if you want for times you are away from your computer. Or set up a watch only wallet on your phone (assuming your phone is probably with you 24/7) pointed at your own full node.

I'd much rather use a self-hosted set up than rely on a third party, especially an insecure one which does not use end to end encryption by default like Telegram.
3590  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We are all Hodlonaut on: August 21, 2022, 01:13:06 PM
I personally suspected that Satoshi did it, although it could be any of the early stage miners, but still someone who was very likely very attached to the project, and is still willing to defend it.
I don't think it was Satoshi who signed this message; rather just another early miner. If Satoshi is still around and wanted to end this CSW nonsense, they could simply sign a message from the genesis block address and/or their PGP key stating that they are not CSW. It doesn't make sense to me that they would risk revealing themselves by publishing a message, but not include the genesis block address.

So in court CSW has AGAIN to try and prove he IS Satoshi. He hasnt been able to before and according to the Peter McCormack case he wasnt able to there either
This is not accurate. This upcoming Hodlonaut case and the previous McCormack case were only to determine whether CSW suffered damages from the statements made, and not to try to prove that he is Satoshi. CSW is very careful in this regard - he knows he would never win such a case, because he does not have the means to prove anything.
3591  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Biometrics as private key? on: August 21, 2022, 09:56:29 AM
-snip-
And yet we still have wallets which allow users to skip the seed phrase back up step, and we still have wallets which allow users to unlock them using a fingerprint instead of a PIN or password. You might expect this kind of nonsense from poor quality closed source wallets like Coinomi, but we also see this from multi-billion dollar corporations. Coinbase's wallet, last I checked, allows you to skip the seed phrase back up, and Block's new hardware device they are building uses a fingerprint scanner. It is no wonder that newbies will take these easy but highly insecure routes to storing their bitcoin when some of the largest players in the space enforce the idea that it is acceptable.
3592  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: I found a paper wallet on a beach ... seriously on: August 21, 2022, 09:47:28 AM
Just a thought: you could add a "canary": a very simple unencrypted paper wallet with private key QR-code and instructions how to claim it. If someone finds it, you lose the small amount, but you'll know your backup is compromised without driving into the desert to check and digging a hole at N34 59 20, W106 36 52 each time.
Joke's on you, that's where I store my barrels full of millions of dollars, not my bitcoin back ups! Wait... Tongue

That's not a bad idea, actually. However, I am more than happy that all of my off site back up locations are incredibly secure and are highly unlikely to be found by anyone either accidentally or deliberately looking for them. If any of the back ups were to be compromised, it would far more likely be due to a massive natural disaster, in which case the canary wallet would not help (although I would probably be aware of the fact via news reports or other media). And in the case of someone deliberately looking for my back ups, they would know not to spend the canary and attract attention to themselves, since as I said after finding one back up they would still need to search for others to be able to steal anything from me.
3593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We are all Hodlonaut on: August 21, 2022, 09:37:37 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto sends some of his coins to a trust or a person that needs the help with litigation cost against the fake Satoshi. That will be the ultimate justice for a guy like Craig Wright. The person or persons that he says he is.... spending his coins to prove that he is not Satoshi Nakamoto. (If it was me.... I would even sign that address with a big FU Faketoshi message)  Grin Grin Grin
As amazing and hilarious as it would be for Satoshi to donate to Hodlonaut, the signed message thing already happened. CSW provided in a previous court case (under oath no less) a list of bitcoin address which he claimed belonged to him. Most of these address were very early bitcoin addresses which had been inactive for years and which many people thought belonged to Satoshi. Very shortly after he provided this list, a signed message from 145 of those addresses containing a combined 7,250 BTC was published calling CSW "a liar and a fraud". Here's a thread about it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250960.

I find it incredible that this is not brought up more, particularly in subsequent court cases. His lies were definitively proven by a method which cannot be faked and anyone can verify. And yet here we are. Roll Eyes
3594  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: $500 exchange scam on: August 21, 2022, 09:26:16 AM
-snip-
Good find. While I stand by what I said in the other thread, that the chat logs alone were not enough to conclusively prove a link, this blockchain evidence is irrefutable that these two users are the same person.

It is completely justified for OP to keep the amount he was scammed. What happens with the remainder of the amount is up to him. Personally, I would probably return the remainder of the funds, although I can see the merit behind either donating them or trying to refund other victims of this scammer.
3595  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What Do Centralized Exchanges Consider as Taint? on: August 21, 2022, 09:14:13 AM
I think we disagree on many issues, but I always find your arguments to be articulate and well reasoned. Further, I find your arguments to be made in good faith, which is not something I can say about everyone on the forum. I have found that you are capable of engaging in debate with those who disagree with you. As a result of the above, I often respond to your posts. I hope that neither you, nor anyone else views my responses as any kind of flame war, or anything like that.
+1

I think a lot of what you describe are failures to implement procedures/policies properly, to have proper controls, etc. I think if Coinbase had a procedure to intentionally confiscate property in small amounts for reasons they knew were invalid, they would have difficulty retaining customers.
I don't think Coinbase are setting out to deliberately steal coins from their users, but there is absolutely no doubt that their poor procedures and controls to which you refer are having the outcome of users being deprived of their coins. You can go their subreddit or Twitter accounts and see post after post after post of people having accounts locked or restricted and coins frozen or seized and receiving absolutely no help from Coinbase Support or even an explanation, even after months of sending support tickets. I'm sure that as you mentioned above that a not-insignificant proportion of those users will be telling a slanted story or leaving out important details, but it certainly isn't all of them and Coinbase are certainly to blame in some situations.

I know you disagree with my conclusion, but I believe the reason there are no court cases whose resolution is to provide their customer with access to their funds that were frozen is because coinbase is not denying access to funds by their customers for reasons that are not consistent with the law. I think if this was not the case, there would be at least a handful of cases in which a competent lawyer would take the case on a pro-bono basis.
I think for the most part users simply do not have the time, money, or resources to pursue a lengthy legal challenge against a multi-national multi-billion dollar corporation, the cost of which in most cases will be more than the value of the coins they have lost.
3596  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: I found a paper wallet on a beach ... seriously on: August 21, 2022, 09:01:50 AM
For example, send a small amount to another address and return it back with a signed message with information so that the owner moves btc to another address. It is not a fact that the owner will immediately detect this if he rarely checks his wallet and it may turn out that he has no other access due to the lost paper wallet, but it's worth a try.
As explained above, a better solution would be to make a transaction sending a tiny amount of coins to the paper wallet address, and including an OP_RETURN output with some information on how to contact OP, perhaps with a link to this thread. This prevents any issues in the rare but possible case that the true owner has a signed transaction involving the original output stored somewhere.

Whoever the original owner is or who their successors are, they have lost a physical object that used to be in their possession somewhere and somehow. Hopefully, that's not their only backup, they will discover sooner or later that it's missing and move the coins elsewhere.
Yeah, that's a good point. I also have a number of back ups stored off site, as everyone should. These backs ups are obviously highly secured and incredibly unlikely to end up on a beach somewhere (not to mention that no single back up is enough to compromise any of my wallets), but at the same time, I obviously don't check on these back ups every day. It is possible, however unlikely, that I would lose one of my back ups and not realize for a period of weeks. There is no telling how diligent or otherwise the true owner of these coins might be, and it could very well be months or even years before they realize that their paper wallet is lost.
3597  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We are all Hodlonaut on: August 21, 2022, 08:48:57 AM
So my question here is, why didn't Wright provide the 1.1million Bitcoin he claims to own when the court ordered him?
Because he can't, because he has never owned the private keys to those coins.

And why is he sueing journalist and Bitcoin developers who tries to proof he isn't the creator of Bitcoin if he really is?
Because it's the only way he has to continue this charade.

Because until he log-in Satoshi's forum account, I will still never believe he created Bitcoin.
Satoshi's account is disabled. Even Satoshi himself couldn't log in to it, without contacting theymos with some proof and getting the account unlocked first.

P.S. if Craig is reading this, you got your ass handed to you by Vitalik at that conference in 2018. Why didn't you sue him?
Probably because Vitalik owns a huge amount of Ethereum due its pre-mine, and so could easily bankroll and win any lawsuit. CSW only wants to harass people who can't fight back. Hopefully with a big community backing for Hodlonaut, we can prove that everyone has the ability to fight back against his lies.



After the massive 47 BTC donation yesterday, in the last 24 hours there has been over another 1 BTC and $5k donated. Let's keep it going.
3598  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / We are all Hodlonaut on: August 20, 2022, 07:11:30 PM
So I just stumbled across this post from Greg Maxwell on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ws8wfd/starting_september_12th_in_oslo_norway_hodlonaut/ikxqxoo/. Everyone with even a passing interest in bitcoin (which includes you, if you are reading this forum) should read this post. In fact, I would read the whole thread, because Greg has made a number of excellent posts.

Next month a pseudonymous individual by the handle of Hodlonaut will go to court in Norway to defend himself against known fraudster CSW. For anyone out of the loop, here is an update on the case: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/timeline-of-hodlonaut-craig-wright-case. The very abridged version is that Holdonaut posted on Twitter what everyone knows - that CSW is not Satoshi - and now there is a court case to determine whether these tweets are lawful and whether Hodlonaut has to pay damages to CSW.

This case doesn't just affect Hodlonaut; it affects all of us. Hodlonaut is not just defending himself; he is defending us all, as explained in Greg's post I linked to above.

So what can we do to help? Well, CSW is being bankrolled by Calvin Ayre and CoinGeek. Hodlonaut, on the other hand, is being bankrolled by nobody. Got some spare sats kicking around? I can think of no worthier cause than the defense of bitcoin itself.

https://www.defendingbtc.com/
https://nitter.it/defendingBTC

#WeAreAllHodlonaut



Twitter links of individuals who are at the trial:

https://nitter.it/bitnorbert
https://nitter.it/SpecificMills
https://nitter.it/kristiandoble/



Thread continued here: Hodlonaut Trial
3599  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Replaced transaction. Double spending attack? on: August 20, 2022, 03:38:24 PM
After getting spammed for hours with infinite messages and missed calls which were mostly made of threats about bad reviews I go back home and open my wallet to see that there is nothing in there.
This should have been a red flag. In peer to peer trades, you should never feel rushed or harassed by the other person. Whenever you do, it is usually because they are trying to pull something shady. In this case, he was rushing to get you to send your half of the trade before his transaction confirmed, so he could replace it with RBF and steal your money. However...

Mutual characteristics between the 2 accounts.
I am not convinced that any of the characteristics you have listed are enough to make a definitive link between these two accounts. It seems to me that there is a not insignificant chance that you have just stolen $500 worth of bitcoin from an innocent third party.
3600  Other / Meta / Re: Merited Banned Account on: August 20, 2022, 03:27:25 PM
People are banned for a variety of reasons. Being banned does not mean that they have not made other posts which are merit worthy. Further, it is unreasonable to expect merit sources to check the status of every user they want to merit using third party tools.

The amount of merit being sent to banned accounts and therefore not recirculated is minuscule and not worth worrying about. Most merit sources are sitting with significantly more than this in their stash, not mentioning all the merit sent to inactive accounts (like the 4.5k to Satoshi) or other users who simply don't hand it all back out again.

If you think there are good posts going unmerited, then link to them in this thread: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
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