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If you can earn bitcoins passively or you are a long term investor, then you can still work besides, depends how much money you make.
Say you have 10,000$ invested and make 5-10% ROI /month, it might take you are few years until you become self-sufficient.
In the meantime you can still do your 9-5 job (or 7-3 in europe) and look at your investment portfolio 3 times / week.
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I`ve wasted time, a lot of time, in bitcoin, searching for useless methods to earn them.
Now i`ve found it, but wasted time sucks very bad.
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TBH i dont think mining worth anything good now a days. correct me if i'm wrong :/
If you are in a 3rld world probably not, unless you have solar panels (pretty usful in africa) or have few 1000$ to buy ASICS. If you thinking about PC mining, forget about that , thats useless now. |
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Yes, let's look at the data.  The only sense in which NXT is a "stable currency" is if you consider the stability of its uninterrupted steady decline over the last 15 months. Ethereum and rootstock.io make NXT as obsolete as buggy whips. NXT is totally decentralized, and free to use for anybody. I`m not sure the other services if they charge you or, require some verification first. NXT is the true descendant of Bitcoin. The steady price decline is exactly caused by these FUD posts of yours and other FUD-ers, so I`m not sure if there is some conspiracy agains NXT or you guys are professional shills. I also poined out that NXT has horrible marketing, but that will soon change , I saw a big NXT marketing project coming soon, so wait to see where the price will go. Plus it's not like you cannot rebounce from a steady decline, look at ETH example, so NXT will be fine: NXT can easily rebounce from it's decline, just as BTC or ETH did. |
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The only way I would buy a selfie stick crap is if I could buy myself a Lamborghini with bitcoin. Then I would make a selfie with that, otherwise its just nonsense  |
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Gold has stability value, bitcoin its more volatile. Bitcoin needs more stability if it wants to become as popular as gold.
I think you need to rethink your data and opinion about the price of gold and the price and volatility of bitcoin in time. Below are the charts of price of bitcoin this year (which as you can see is almost stable) and the price of gold the last 5 years (which is decreased the last four years and half). It is not the first time that I give these charts but I see again and again people not informed. So needed to publish those again. Bitcoin:  Gold:  Man, the gold price is obviously distorded with the ponzi gold certificate system. Even the chinese megabanks join the gold manipulation movement: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/02/02/chinese-banks-to-join-new-gold-fix-from-march.htmlThat being said, gold can be manipulated, but bitcoin can be too. I still think the bitcoin price is harder to manipulate because its already at low point, but who knows. Yet the bitcoin price has more upward space, so it could be a better ROI investment. |
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Ok let's not speculate, lets rely on data. The last major NXT dump happened back in august 2014, when the price was over 11000 satoshi. https://www.mynxt.info/charts/transaction_volume_per_day.phpSo it's safe to say that we probably eliminated all weak hands and opportunists from NXT, and the current core investors are serious about holding it. So stop FUD trolls, you are just making yourself look like morons. NXT is a stable currency now. |
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Yep and my prediction is fulfilled, NXT is back in the top 10  http://coinmarketcap.com/all/I am very excited now, as you can see the price is going up, who knows what surprizes NXT has for us. If this goes the way I think then we will soon all buy a Lamborghini Don't be so excited, there is still 4.6M whales NXT waiting for dump  EDIT: go to jnxt.org/nxt/ and open account NXT-253H-ESRL-K87C-4R9FG Thats only 35000$, barely moves the price by half %. Plus what makes you think he will dump it. This coins is on the path to go to the moon, I can feel it in my gut I agree with bolded part But it will take some time. P.S. It's only 30 BTC needed on Poloniex to dump NXT to 0.00000001 BTC Of course for short time Haha that will not happen, because of the arbitrage as exchanges are connected. If somebody would dump it to 1 satoshi, the traders would sell their mother to hoard it up at that price It would stay at that price for 1 microsecond maybe. |
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Guys the affiliate program is a mess, i`ve worn the signature for 2 weeks, and my guy didnt get not even 1 referral.
It was modified with bright colors, but not a single subscriber. The signature system must be broke or something.
i doubt it is broke, it could possible be that its just no user joined yobit using your ref link as there are lots of yobit campaigners all over the forum and some user can go directly to yobit without clicking your signature I designed a new one ,and will give it a shot for another week. This one is more detailed and catchy, I hope we will get atleast 1 affiliate. I doubt there are that many yobit users, there is still room to do this referral program, but i hope this niche is good. Well Yobit is a short name and so popular exchange site so I guess Decoded is correct. Anyways give it a try for another week. Much better if Yobit is really emphasize. What I mean is the name must be in the center. In the current design it's just like the samne layout as in my signature. Just a suggestion. Still nobody joined, I cannot afford to waste my sig space any longer, so sorry but I leave it. The affiliate program doesnt work at all, so I wont continue it anymore. Good luck! |
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Yep and my prediction is fulfilled, NXT is back in the top 10  http://coinmarketcap.com/all/I am very excited now, as you can see the price is going up, who knows what surprizes NXT has for us. If this goes the way I think then we will soon all buy a Lamborghini Don't be so excited, there is still 4.6M whales NXT waiting for dump EDIT: go to jnxt.org/nxt/ and open account NXT-253H-ESRL-K87C-4R9FG Thats only 35000$, barely moves the price by half %. Plus what makes you think he will dump it. This coins is on the path to go to the moon, I can feel it in my gut |
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If you are too much of a n00b to use anything but slick, shiny point-and-click Grandma-friendly interfaces, too bad. That's probably because you went to shitty schools and had shitty parents who never made you learn anything harder than how to use a graphing calculator. Sorry about that! Now let's get back on topic and continue discussing why NXT's scam is doomed to fail! Its not about me, its about others. What chance does monero have if you will have a permanent console client? 1 out of 10,000 people would prefer that. Sorry but people demand quality and design, and if monero cant give that, then too bad it will remain a nerd currency and never get mainstream. NXT is far superior , it has elegant design + solid features! |
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There are like 3+ GUIs for Monero.
You know what has a nice Official GUI? Paycoin.
So you imply that a coin with a nice official GUI is a scam, because Paycoin was a scam and had a nice official GUI? Or maybe you imply that Monero is not a scam because it doesn't have a nice official GUI? Well, in any case it seems to me that you are unable to defend your position without using one from the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies... The first false claim I was correcting was "There's not even a GUI?" There are multiple XMR GUIs. Case dismissed. The other false claim was the purported linkage between the (non)existence of a GUI and which Gen of crypto-cash a coin belongs to. XMR's tech is clearly Gen 2 (or 3), regardless of zero or a million GUIs. Class dismissed. You fail. There is no official GUI, and the GUI's are bugged, I saw some posts complaining about them. Not a safe way to store money. And the console interface is a joke, no mainstream usage will come until you dont design a lightweigh PC + smartphone wallet. A mobile phone wallet is a must in these ages. |
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He deserves it only because he solved the byzantine general problems alone, besides the actual Bitcoin software, but we know he will never get mainstream recognition, or not until it becomes way too obvious that he did an insanely important contribution to humanity, whill will take years for the general public to understand.
C`mon guys they give out nobel prize for nutjob keynesianists who are mostly chartatans. Satoshi doesnt deserve to be associated with keynesian con-men, he is better than that. |
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You can easily set it to 0.000005, there are many miners now and 0.0001 is not needed anymore.
You can save some satoshis that way.
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It's getting a little away from cloud mining, but I guess some of these ideas do kinda crossover.
I have a set amount I want to be invested in. I don't believe in going deeper and deeper in debt in chance of ROI. I either make ROI or I don't. And hopefully there is ROI/Profit on my investments. If you wait on X price (which I admit I have done if price is horrible but as a general rule don't like). If I did this I would have been KILLED from day's of when BTC was worth double or more then it is today.
Going through something like when btc went from thousand or so to a ton less luckily did not kill me as I had ROI'ed on my holdings. If I held saying Ohhh if i get X more to pay the costs I do better, the drop like that would have crushed my investment. I think you had to go through this to see how things can go wrong.
Its the same as cloud mining, if the cloud mining is legit, if its a ponzi then thats another story. Because the cloud miner if he is really mining, he has to do the same calculations as you do by solo mining. The only difference is that if he is selling a tradeable instrument, then its additional risk of price movement of that instrument. |
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Your very optimistic on having price. It's all speculation no one can tell you what will happen at having this far away. I mean it's a long time away in crytpo time. But to throw numbers like 10k.... I'm not expecting at having.
We need to see btc price before having a few months to have any clue. And really having no one will know till we hit it. But I would not expect 10k per btc at having even at most optimistic pricing.
Well look there are many possibilities, some say it will go 0, some say it will stay 200$, then are conservatives like you who think it will go up but not to a huge price, and there are dreamers like me who think it will go to the moon. One thing is certain though, that if bitcoin is left on it's current path, it will have a big growth curve ahead of it, or in other words, the economy gets worse and bitcoin is a safe haven. We must realize that bitcoin is no longer a forum money for nerds, it is slowly becoming global, and once the traders realize that, it can go really big. |
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If you have some coins then start lending with proper collateral. This will give you some profits on your bitcoins and quite safe method.
True but you need real qualification and filter, to filter out scams. Dont lend to anybody below JR level, and the collateral has to be of equal or greater value than the loan. Greater value, and altcoins are risky. There have been multiple cases where someone takes out a loan with 120% collateral of an altcoin, it plunges, and they default on the loan since they have more than they'd get taking the alts back. You should filter the altcoins suitable for collateral to only those with market cap over 100,000$ to limit risk. A pro lender must know how to control risk. |
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I'm brand new to all this bitcoin stuff and would love some directions to make a few dollars, like, when to buy and sell and which wallet to choose for my Android phone? Thank you!  There is already a thread about android wallets: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1208153.0For earning bitcoin, just check my signature... |
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I thought cloud mining was scam now?
Not all of them, you always find some good apples in a basket of rotten ones (some apples are only a bit bruised but still eatable) I hope you understand my metaphor, good luck! |
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