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3581  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Bitfury Starter Kit 20 Gh/s ~25 watt passively cooled on: September 26, 2013, 07:46:23 PM
Sorry for stolen the thread, but i have a kit with 4 boards to sell, hashing at around 150gh/s Wink
pm me with price Wink

must be worth 90 BTC  Tongue Grin
3582  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: **US** BitFury Setup Guide on: September 26, 2013, 03:50:08 AM
how to make a brand new sd card with the new chainminer, do I need  both chainminer and the rasp pi images downloaded

read the quoted text above your post. get your system working with the default v2 image (only for a v2 m-board), then run the commands from the RPi terminal
3583  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: tips on cooling block erupter usbs on: September 26, 2013, 03:21:11 AM
in my experience a little bit of airflow does a lot. these things are stable even when hot though so dont be too worried. alternatively, attach some small heatsinks to either the stock plate, or atop the asic chip
3584  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: September 26, 2013, 01:00:17 AM


5 block erupters & my 36.5 Ghash/s Bitfury starter kit. Next step is 3.8 Ghash if all remains stable for 24hrs.

And the setup is semi-temporary. I hope to get a better spacing on the fans and wires when i get the chance to beautify it. Till then, heatsinks make good sturdy bases for fans and securing them
3585  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: [GUIDE] BitFury Miner Support/Tuning on: September 26, 2013, 12:55:20 AM
Just took a look at the results from 12+ hours of logging yesterday after pulling chainminer v1.2. The board looks quite stable and error rates dropped significantly (~1% over the entire peroid). I'm looking at 36 GH/s sustained over long periods just dc fans and no heat sinks. I've manually clocked all chips at 54 and have not noted any benefit in using the auto feature in v1.2. Now someone push the board up to 40 Wink


how are you making that sort of log? Im moving to manual tuning now, since most chips are stable at 54/55 with 1% errors and 36Ghash/37Ghash-nonce.

if it runs well for the next few hours i will consider moving the resistance from 1.178 to 1.165 (before it gave me issues, but that was prior to chainminer update)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287590.msg3108736#msg3108736

Send Isokivi a tip for saving you the headache.

ooh, not being a linux guy that still looks like a headache! (massive respect for the method/result though!). I can see 1.5hr averages at bitminter that work okay, but a longer-spanning solution would be nice. maybe the next sd update ill try to get the logger set up.

right now, im seeing a very steady 36.5 Ghash at the pool over the last 3 hours, with the bitfury page suggesting it might be closer to 37

EDIT: after about 16hrs, looks like 36.8Ghash is the average hashrate, with the last 3hrs above 37Ghash
EDIT 2: some new tweaking, and it looks like i am averaging 37.7Ghash
3586  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CANADA] 0.95 OR LESS ~ BPMC "BLUE FURY" 2.7 GH/s USB MINER! GB#1 on: September 26, 2013, 12:48:07 AM
I might be ok with Klondike, will there be local pickup in TO? 

If I end up paying less to go the group shipping route, and I have some confidence in the receiver and how the units will be handled, I'll do it.


I could offer pickup, but only if an overnight/2day xpresspost isnt a well-priced, easier method. (queen and lansdowne area)

from what I'm looking at:

20 units (If i can arrange some form of groupbuy/sub-groupbuy for at least 10, I can undertake some risk for my resale and own use purposes) : 0.82  BTC each
Shipping to Toronto (average per unit): ~0.04 BTC
Personal risk/time consideration per unit: ~0.08BTC

So approximately 0.94 BTC per unit, plus:
Priority/Xpresspost reshipping within Ontario (per sub-order): ~0.12BTC (plus maybe an extra 0.02 per extra unit if package size/weight is increased )

If this seems reasonable to a few people, I would be willing to go down this path. I have no experience with escrow, so feel free to either vouch confidence in my word, or point me in the direction of setting up escrow (John K.?) I imagine escrow would add a nominal fee, but may also make my up-front payment harder to acrue (who has 16BTC lying around? - not me [yet])


3587  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: September 25, 2013, 09:23:07 PM
I've placed orders for additional H boards on the 19th, 24th and 25th.  And by the looks of my order numbers and the number of units left in the store, very few people seem to making additional purchases.  I can't believe people haven't snapped-up the remaining stock in minutes.  What gives?*

*Please, no discussion of ROI is necessary if you respond to my post.  I've heard it ALL!  And am completely bored with annoying ROIer rants.

I have 1 in my order #13X and another in #8XX. That will satisfy me until whatever comes next (28nm? price drops? stock OC'd cards/more reliable chip?)

from 3 cards I expect to run 105 Ghash/s
3588  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Three big cheers to Nico and Co. (bitfurystrikesback). Send your tips! on: September 25, 2013, 07:38:15 PM
what other chips can overclock 30% or more without extreme cooling mods (just airflow)?  Grin
3589  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: September 25, 2013, 07:30:06 PM
No.  Yes.  No.  Yes.  

(There are windows utilities that can format an SD card and write SD images.)


Really, that link referenced earlier said specificly there wasn't. *kicks the internet for lieing to me*

Well, i'm going to do it on the linux machine anyway since it is a faster down load.

Does the V2 img contain the correct chainminer? or does that need to be downloaded too?

you can make the sd card at a windows system, but to change the ip settings you need to either use a monitor/KB with the bitfury, or use linux to change the network interfaces file.

The chainminer in the image works, but not optimally. once the sd is in the rpi with the right ip settings, do this:


ChainMiner for M Board Version 2.X boards
DO not use this guide for Version 1x m-boards.
It will fry your chips.  This is only meant for Version 2 of the M-board.

I apologize for grammar as I took 2 sleeping pills and I can barely feel my fingers.

1.login as pi or root

2.  type "nano /run/shm/.stat.log"   if you wish to see the performance of all the chips on your board before upgrading chain miner.
(optional step)
3.(backup your chainminer version)  (this creates a copy of the folder)
a. sudo cp -a /opt/bitfury /usr/bitfury.backup
b. cd /opt/bitfury/
c. pwd  (make sure you are in /opt/bitfury)
d. ls -al (or type dir)
e. rm -rf chainminer  (this removes everything in the chainminer folder)
4.  make sure you are in the /opt/bitfury directory and not in /opt/bitfury/chainminer (it should be deleted anyway
5.  type "git clone https://github.com/bfsb/chainminer.git"
6.  it should now start getting the chainminer git.
7.  now type "cd chainminer"  you should now be in the chainminer directory
8.  type "make"
9.  Its going to take 5-10 minutes to create the chainminer...maybe longer.
 I got some warning but everything was fine after it all finished.
 it will go back to a  bash prompt when done.
9a.  Just wait...this is the longest part of doing this change..
10.  sudo reboot


It is much better version, and will cut your error rates massively. I went from 10% errors to 3%, and still have some tuning to do that should bring it under 2%
3590  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 25, 2013, 07:14:39 PM
I feel like im missing something. what are the final full details of the options?:

1) how much btc is returned from a 2.2BTC K16?
2) how much hardware is available in lieu of refund? (pcb, chips, etc)?

1. 1.296 BTC is returned for every 16 chips
2. It is complicated. Many parts have arrived, many needed payment upfront, etc. Anyway, these are details that concern only me, but i'll do my best to refund boards too or offer Bitfury instead.

terrific, so can i expect them to return to my sending address, or do i need to email/PM/website-form you the address and request?

You have handled this very well, its too bad avalon screwed up so badly. If there are any pcb/partial boards already i'd still love to have one, even without chips. otherwise, I hope that an avalon gen2 or bitfury design will turn out better for you and those involved.
3591  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: [GUIDE] BitFury Miner Support/Tuning on: September 25, 2013, 07:05:43 PM
Just took a look at the results from 12+ hours of logging yesterday after pulling chainminer v1.2. The board looks quite stable and error rates dropped significantly (~1% over the entire peroid). I'm looking at 36 GH/s sustained over long periods just dc fans and no heat sinks. I've manually clocked all chips at 54 and have not noted any benefit in using the auto feature in v1.2. Now someone push the board up to 40 Wink


how are you making that sort of log? Im moving to manual tuning now, since most chips are stable at 54/55 with 1% errors and 36Ghash/37Ghash-nonce.

if it runs well for the next few hours i will consider moving the resistance from 1.178 to 1.165 (before it gave me issues, but that was prior to chainminer update)
3592  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: September 25, 2013, 06:45:06 PM
Please correct me if I'm wrong - but if these October units don't ship until October, then people will never make their money back. Forget about profit! :/

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/df9a6ceb29

Do you honestly think difficulty will be 500 billion in 1 year? 3360 times what it is now? That calculator is completely wrong for long term predictions. At 500 billion difficulty, 100TH/s would be making about $10 a day... minus a few thousands bucks for electricity. lol.

The calculator is good for a 2-4 month idea of increase. After that i think we will become much more linear
3593  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: **US** BitFury Setup Guide on: September 25, 2013, 06:17:09 PM

ChainMiner for M Board Version 2.X boards
DO not use this guide for Version 1x m-boards.
It will fry your chips.  This is only meant for Version 2 of the M-board.

I apologize for grammar as I took 2 sleeping pills and I can barely feel my fingers.

1.login as pi or root

2.  type "nano /run/shm/.stat.log"   if you wish to see the performance of all the chips on your board before upgrading chain miner.
(optional step)
3.(backup your chainminer version)  (this creates a copy of the folder)
a. sudo cp -a /opt/bitfury /usr/bitfury.backup
b. cd /opt/bitfury/
c. pwd  (make sure you are in /opt/bitfury)
d. ls -al (or type dir)
e. rm -rf chainminer  (this removes everything in the chainminer folder)
4.  make sure you are in the /opt/bitfury directory and not in /opt/bitfury/chainminer (it should be deleted anyway
5.  type "git clone https://github.com/bfsb/chainminer.git"
6.  it should now start getting the chainminer git.
7.  now type "cd chainminer"  you should now be in the chainminer directory
8.  type "make"
9.  Its going to take 5-10 minutes to create the chainminer...maybe longer.
 I got some warning but everything was fine after it all finished.
 it will go back to a  bash prompt when done.
9a.  Just wait...this is the longest part of doing this change..
10.  sudo reboot

This just stabilised my error rates ennormously. I had 2-15% errors per chip (10% average). Now its under 2% average (one chip is at 6%, thats the only exception)
35Ghash noncerate and climbing as the autotune does its thing. 37.5Ghash seems like a real possibility

UPDATE: after a little tuning to 54/55 as needed, 36.5 Ghash is my new [very stable] record.
3594  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: [GUIDE] BitFury Miner Support/Tuning on: September 25, 2013, 06:08:38 PM
just ran the above chainminer gitpull, up and hashing again now, at auto 54 and decent rates (still climbing)

Previously, i had about 34ghash average poolside using 2 workers at difficulty 16, autotuning, and pencil mod of 1.178k. The actual hardware hashrate was closer to 37.5 but 2-15% error rates on the chips. aftermarket cooling includes a fan on each face of the board, as well as multiple heatsinks (tiny one on each chip, and then 5 small heatsinks on the backside, 1 opposite each capacitor cluster)

EDIT #1 (5min): 1 worker, diff=16 (bitminter), autotuning is 54 across the board, hashrate: 35.86Ghash, noncerate: 35.03Ghash.  This is looking really good with the chainminer update!
EDIT #2 (15min): hashrate: 36.5Gh, Noncerate: 35.0Gh,   autotuning is moving most chips up to 55 now
EDIT #3 (30min): hashrate: 37.4Gh, Noncerate: 36.3Gh,   autotuning is about 50/50 between 54 and 55 on all chips. Several chips running at 54 have no errors, and a chip at 55 is 7% errors (hopefully fixed by next autotune)
3595  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: **US** BitFury Setup Guide on: September 25, 2013, 05:57:42 PM
Is there a place to purchase the V2 M boards? I'd really like to be able to upgrade software.

not at the moment, except perhaps from people who bought multiple starter kits that were in the delay. Wait a few weeks and MBP should get a v2 board in your hands. (whatever 'loss' you experience now will surely be remedied by having an extra m-board (with arguable resale value around 500-800$)
3596  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: **US** BitFury Setup Guide on: September 25, 2013, 05:32:41 PM
Its worth noting that after a sd card re-build, and using 2 workers and a pencil mod of 1.178k; I am getting a fairly stable average of 34.5 ghash/s, based on 33-37 ghash fluctuations.

Great result, any aftermarket cooling on your cards?



I have tiny heatsinks on the face of each chip (except 2 of them), 5 small heatsinks on the back (centered opposite the capacitor clusters), a 120mm fan blowing directly at the back and a 60mm and 80mm blowing from opposite sides on the front face. This seems excessive, and nothing on the board gets past "warm". even the Dc converter (i assume thats what the cube is) has a tiny heatsink to help shed its warmth (it was the hottest component i think)

I was using 2 workers at difficulty 8 and getting hashrate fluctuating between 30-36, with 34 being about the average over the last 12 hours. I just changed to 1 worker at diff=16 and will see how that works. 2 workers seemed to be a bit more stable than 3 workers.

I have yet to do any tuning, will wait for new difficulty to kick in and see what the .stat.log looks like. Right now all 16 chips are auto at 55 and running 1.9-2.35 ghash each, with error rates between 2-15%  (good:2317 errors:221 spi-err:1 miso-err:6)

edit: at first 5min glance, 1 worker at diff:16 seems to only result in <26Ghash at the pool. Im switching back to 2 workers at 16
3597  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Blue Fury Miners V2 2.6Gh/s on: September 25, 2013, 05:17:31 PM
Where do you ship from? The shipping price to canada you just gave me seems excessive

International Express Courier (1-5 working days) - Tracked, Signature required    $426.74   
International Economy Courier (2-6 working days) - Tracked, Signature required    $290.02   
3598  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CANADA] 0.95 OR LESS ~ BPMC "BLUE FURY" 2.7 GH/s USB MINER! GB#1 on: September 25, 2013, 03:04:00 PM
If there are a few people in the Toronto area who want to share shipping ( i can offer local reshipping for cheap), i might be down for a few units
This would be the best option. I can stuff a large amount of these into a large flat rate box for 59.99 and should fit 50+

I am down to help organise a small ontario (or even just toronto) buy, and have enough experience to make reshipping quick and painless (local 1-2 day delivery would be in the range of $10-$15 via xpresspost). However, I have no experience with using escrow (and dont have the BTC wallet to support purchase of more then 4 units right now). If anyone wants to make this happen, ive requested a quote for 10x units and 20x units, of which i would probably take 3 for myself
3599  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Is This USB ASIC Miner Worth It? on: September 25, 2013, 02:37:59 PM
Why not try to buy the blue fury?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=296953

It's only around .83 - .90 BTC

7x the hashrate, 7x the price, 1/7th the ports.

Still wont make more then 0.4-0.6BTC by the time difficulty makes them obsolete
3600  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Dead Modminer Quads on: September 25, 2013, 02:13:25 PM
Willing to donate to The Bitcoin Musem?

you should remove the FPGA chips (curious - what sort of monetary value is in them now?), then send chip-less units for the museum Wink
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