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3581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are your gambling stats? (Profit/Loss) on: August 01, 2016, 10:24:45 AM
I play gambling with the purpose of recreation. I was not hungover when I lose.
because I know that my purpose to play gambling not to seek profiit.
Playing gambling is not really for seeking profit, and you have a good thinking that we cannot have more income in gambling. trying our luck in gambling is okay but we cannot use all the time gambling to make this our source of income, if we have a decent job then just save your salary or some of them to your personal savings and if you play gambling you need to have self-discipline for you to win. Smiley
3582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: August 01, 2016, 10:21:00 AM
I agree to this. Gambling is supposed to be for entertainment. We should all the time treat it that way. Otherwise, it will definitely lead us to depression and sickness.

MY reminder, always have plenty of sessions and have your own system that you can follow with when you do gambling.
What do you mean by plenty of sessions, would that mean that you need to play regularly. If that is what you meant then you will be easily addicted in gambling although you are just playing it for entertainment, please remember that you cannot maintain to play that way because the money or reward is very tempting.
Yes, gambling is for entertainment and winning in gambling is just a reward to us. But the thing is we cannot do gambling for our source of income. This is also the one reason why many people want to play gambling because they are trying if they can win this time but the truth is just they losing their money slowly by playing it. Many people get addicted because they don't have self-discipline, this is really important when we play not also for playing but also in our daily lives, but if we have self-discipline when we are in gambling we can minimize our loses.
3583  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: August 01, 2016, 10:15:50 AM
Therefore you should choose the right gambling game for you that would give you so much entertainment when playing it so you would not look for any gambling games that would make you bored and you can shift your focus into money.
True, and once we found the right gambling game to us try also to analyze how really the game works so you can actually have your own strategy to win. But of course not all gambling game needs strategy it is also depend of what game you can be hooked at. But i think if you just really want to have fun in gambling it is okay if you also lose because losing money is also one way for you to entertain yourself and that is what you pay for the entertainment gives gambling site or place to you.
3584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: August 01, 2016, 10:12:06 AM
Well, I think the best method to stay away from gambling is to find a new hobby, so you might get away gambling by itself, but you might find a problem, that you will be very difficult to run, because I think moving the hobby is not an easy task, but you have to often-seirng try
If you guys are really addicted in gambling, there's is no easy way to stay away from it. But I think do all what you think you can quit in gambling, but if all your ideas doesn’t work, you will be needing some psychiatrist that can help you find your own again without gambling in your life.

In my opinion, if you are still aware that you are getting addicted to gambling, a professional help is not yet needed, seeking professional help I think should be consider if the people around you are the one's sensing that you are a gambling addict, and I think they will be the one that will advise you to do that, and might force you to pay a visit to a counsel..
But you can also ask for a psychiatrist for a help as early as needed, it is also for their own good to ask early and what they should do to quit in gambling. I think there are also people that are really determine to stop in gambling but there is also a person that doesn't know that they are already addicted in gambling.
Change should start first from the person being addicted to gambling, we cannot change even with the help of professionals without fully submitting our self for change, let us look at the future and visualize what will happen to us if we continue with our irresponsible gambling.
Yes, the person who gets addicted in gambling must be the first to notice himself that he is already addicted to it and him also the one that can help him, together with the help of his family is the best way to quit in gambling permanently. But also try to ask for a psychiatrist. They can also help for the person who is already attached in gambling.
3585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: August 01, 2016, 10:06:43 AM
Is their any safe methods to gamble? Means without losing much of our money can gamble?

Any tips or suggestions?

there are no 100% safe strategy to gamble, there's always a risk so you won't always win, try to do small bets so even if you will lose, you won't lose a lot

luck may be one of the factors for the win, but the main factors to win in gambling is self-control and the other is the strategy!! . Both of these must be owned and controlled by the obligatory, if not Yes you must get defeat repeatedly
Agree, yes we also need luck to win in gambling but if we also have self-discipline when we play I guess we can minimize our loses.
We also need to know how to handle money in order for us to have a savings for our future. When we play gambling also set aside some of your money for your personal needs, don't put all your money to play gambling cause we are not sure if we can win or not.
3586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: July 30, 2016, 10:39:03 AM
Gambling fix the life of very few, because on a whole gambling with bitcoin has got high probability of losing compared to winning. So only very few benefited from gambling.
Well, that's true there are person that really so lucky to have benefited because of playing gambling. But most of the time lots of people being a loser too because of gambling and I say that it is more loser going home than to the winners who really so lucky that day, but I am surely they also have a day that they also become a loser before they become a winner and playing consistently in a gambling places will have you I think more strategy that ever before.

There are some cases whereby the players bets like a few satoshi and end up winning like 10 over btc. It is an insane amount of money. However, a lot of them are unable to keep the money and keep gambling until they either lost it all back or just left with 1btc or less before decide to stop.
That is just a very rare situation my friend, and the fact is we cannot be all lucky in gambling and we never know when our luck will strike. If we think of making money in gambling then the two things might happen to you but chances are the result will be more likely to ruin your life.
Yes we all know that we cannot be lucky all the time, so when we enter gambling places we know that there is always a high risk. But for me, this is also depend of who is playing gambling, once we all know that you have a self-discipline, you will not lose more money at all.
3587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: July 30, 2016, 10:35:14 AM
I am still surprised this thread about "gaming being a sickness" is still ongoing. I am pretty sure the OP meant sickness=addiction and everybody here is comparing it to having a disease.
I think sickness way better than addiction, this is something like a possibility that may result to addiction but still this two is not good for you wether the effect is worst or not.
Gambling itself is not really a sickness that you may call. Gambling is a game involving money and that is not a sickness. When we became addicted in gambling that may be considered as a sickness, Addiction is equals to sickness.
3588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: July 29, 2016, 02:12:47 PM
i think gambling is not a bad habit. it become bad if a person is playing it badly and wrongly. it become bad when a person make it a way of become rich in a day or so. my personal experience is that when i came back from my job in evening time i went to my friends house. as we have no casino in area therefore we do gambling on cricket match. when i went to my friend's house there we get on live cricket matches. i play gambling in a limit. for the money which i have budgeted for my pocket on daily basis. if i won its ok other wise i will lose only my daily limit of my pocket money. so i think its not bad its just fun and enjoyment.
 Smiley Smiley
Gambling is never really bad nor good since it's just a game that required a user to be played. It is the users responsibility wether what will be the result of his decision in gambling. You can't blame a game, that's hypocritical.
True! we are the once who responsible in our self, especially when we play gambling, cause we are the one who choose to play gambling and no one dictate us if we need to play or not.
3589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 29, 2016, 02:11:14 PM
Yes bro Gambling Is Wrong Because when I was a Newbie I lost my Faucet earnings totaling 0.01 Btc in Gambling. After that I Never Tried Gambling Again.
I think Gambling is Not a Good Way of Growing your Money. you can Grow your Bitcoins By many ways online....

That is the key for a real change. I do that also but first I withdraw all my money now and just leave some satoshi in my gambling wallet. That will be the one for my game. If all of that lose then I stop. just 50-100k satoshis then I am good.

You're right, gambling is not a good way to make money or to grow our money, and we cannot use gambling to gain profit, because I think Gambling can be also an additional to our problems. If you really want to earn money just use you money to make small business instead to play gambling.
Maybe you are having big problem with gambling mate, you should not say that gambling will only give a problem in overall as there are still number of gamblers that are enjoying doing gambling as their way to release the stress in real life work.
I don't think they can release their stress if they losing money? Yes, if they win they can release stress actually but losing is not a good feeling at all. You cannot use gambling for releasing our stress, it is better to play online games than to play gambling.
3590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: July 29, 2016, 02:08:19 PM
Yes, there is no need to stay away from gambling for ever if you have some self control. Gambling is not addicted you when you are not going for it very frequently. So, there is no need to avoid it completely when you have control to go for gambling only when you have some money for your entertainment.
Well if a person really wants to stay gambling because it is not giving him a good result for his life, then it is better if you are going to help them to stay away from gambling if he really want to. Giving them another addiction to some other things are a good way to stay away from addiction in gambling.
It is very true and most gamblers will certainly get it, because I noticed that all gambling gamblers because it wanted to get a very big advantage in time a bit. I think not everyone will do well and gambling addiction is a special thing for those greedy
True, there is no need to avoid gambling if you have self-discipline and if we just play occasionally. Because I think we cannot lose lots of money unlike for those who really don't know how to handle themselves when they are in that momentum of the game enjoying the night and pretending okay while the reality is they losing lots of money already.
3591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: July 29, 2016, 02:02:32 PM
Both, I earned 0.05btc so far by gambling. but,actually I also enjoy gamble. infact,I became addicted on gambling. I enjoy it so much and I won't stop gambling.I gamble for not only profit but also for fun. Grin

So your reasons are both fun and profit. But if the time comes that you lose all your money I don't think that is also fun at all. If you gamble for fun make sure don't use all your money/bitcoin here. Just use your extra money and not your personal income here. So that in the end, you will not end up to be a loser.

Heheh ^^ Yes the winning part makes it fun. Losing is not especially when it's money you are losing. But people can't help control themselves to use more money to get their spare money back because they think of all the things they could have bought.
That's the problem in gambling we don't have self-discipline. Sometime we need to stop after winning in the game, so that in the end we will blame our self, why we should not stop when we almost have the money. Well that's the gambling use to be.
3592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are your gambling stats? (Profit/Loss) on: July 29, 2016, 01:59:25 PM
First time when I Try Gambling I am new to Bitcoin and I lost about 10$ Worth of Bitcoins at that time. After that time I never tried gambling because Gambling is so Risky and I don't want to be a Gambler.....

I think that the time when doing gambling, you have been hypnotized by the words of everyone who gets the victory while, so when you do not use the gambling strategy and always playing carelessly
Once you've enter gambling there is always a risk and we need to accept it. We all know that there’s always a high risk in gamble and we should know
That's true, self-discipline is important in every part of the game in gambling. But of course, some gambling game needs also strategy and we need to be focus in the gambling game that needs strategy. Focus and self-discipline but at the same time enjoy it so you will not going to hurt hard if you lose.
Yes, agree with this. self-discipline and focus in every part of a game in gambling is all you need for you to win and to gain profit, but sometimes it also need luck at the same time but if you have that both you will not lose more money.
3593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: July 29, 2016, 01:57:22 PM
gambling definitely doesn't fix anything. it's fun and entertaining and at times can get you really lucky however that's it. it could very well though wreck your life if you are not able to control how you handle it. just be sure to gamble within your means and make sure to know when to stop.
It is exactly as you said. Gambling most usually just wreck one's life especially if you developed a gambling addiction. Gambling should not fix anything, nor wreck anything. It's supposedly only fun and games, with the exception that you're paying every time you play.
Yes, gambling is really for fun, but sometimes while having fun we can also wreck our life if we don't have enough self-discipline. Money is all we need in our life that we need to save for our family and for our future and not to use just to waste of time.
3594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 29, 2016, 01:53:56 PM
Because if you are losing you will end up chasing those losses until you lose everything. When you don't have anymore to bet then it is over for you.
I think it still will not come to an end mate, people will never be satisfied and admitted defeat for which they perform a variety of ways to keep gambling, such as borrowing money on lending, then gambling again
they do not realize that their lives have been damaged by gambling
But if they have no more to bet with how will they get the money to keep going on?
Steal it or selling things is the bottom of the barrel. Then what? A end to their life? Is that what you are saying?

take a look at the loan section and you will understand.
those who are real gambling addicts can never control themselves, they do anything to get money and gamble it away, they even take big loans to gamble with and in some serious cases they sell their house or take a mortgage on it and bet with the amount.

There is no telling what addicts will do just to support their addiction. That is why there are news of addicts stealing or killing for money. That maybe hard to hear but that is the reality of it. So before it is too late, do not ever allow any addiction to take a grasp over you. Whether it is gambling or drug, any addiction is uncontrollable and should be avoided at all cost.
To reach to the level of stealing money and killing a person is maybe the worst effect of gambling addiction. Actually only crazy people who can do that and those who are not a responsible gambler because a normal gambler would understand that there is a winning and losing for gambling.

Killing someone because of gambling is very extreme. The one who make it are really have some criminal instinct already and just aggravated by big losses in a very unresponsible gambling. I believe majority of people gambling are just doing it for fun and not to that extreme.

They are already sick even before they do gambling I believe.
This kind of person should never enter into gambling because they are very dangerous and most likely they will lose in the long run as they do not have the right self control to play a discipline way in gambling. Gambling is only for matured thinking person who understand the risk of doing it.
Agree, Gambling is for people who are mature enough to understand the process of the game. We need self-control in order to us to not lose a lot of money. Gambling is really addicting in a way that we cannot manage our self on how we can control our self in greediness and to control our money.
3595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: July 28, 2016, 01:25:24 PM
when i play with martingale method, it makes me cry all the time

And martingaling with Bitcoin is still hard to loose a lot of money.

Imagine now how much money you need to have to do it in a casino where you can only play with $1+, or even with at least $0.1. A LOT. Probably a billionaire and it'd still be easy to loose all Cheesy

It is the same case even with bitcoin, it really isnt hard to lose a lot of money with bitcoin if you play with martingale strategy, because after every lost bet the bet gets doubled, so it will just take a few bets to finish all you have in that site.


I don't believe in martingale strategy. It is gambling and gambling will always be gambling. It is a matter of chances, if you are lucky today and you won a lot today, then congratulations. But if you don't then better to stop to avoid your feelings and going to stop crying as early as today.

Yeah Gambling is a gambling theres no trick in gambling, i also try martingale its hard to loose if you have big funds, but the gambling site has a trick to loose it because when you won a little bit, anytime you can loose your all bitcoin. They just want you to hope that your fund is not enough so many gamblers deposit again and try again. But If you loose dont cry, you are in gambling. Dont gamble your money if you dont want to loose it.
True, so if you guys don't want to cry at the end of the game of your gambling game, it is better to stop now and don't waste another minute to lose money again. There is no right strategy in gambling it is more on luck.
3596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 28, 2016, 01:21:51 PM
Actually gambling is not addicting, the question should be "why people addicted tp gambling". Gambling Addiction comes from human's mind/heart, not from the gambling itself. Unlike addiction of drugs which contains something that make peope addicted to it.
Yes that a nice point you made that gambling is not addicting like drugs which are addicting but the people or we should say the gamblers are the one who gets addicted to gambling.
Yes gambling is not like drugs but there must be something in it and dont know what it is because still people are getting addicted to gambling.

It's because we are thinking all the time about us winning big. That's the main reason for which we are becoming addicted to it. It's that hope in your mind 'ooh come on, I can't loose now' and the worst things happen exactly when you expect it the least. It's not really like the drug addiction: if you stop gambling, nothing bad happens to you. If you stop smoking weed, you just feel like you can't live without it in your body.

Well the facts are all right there about gambling you just need to read the signs, ask someone who's known gambling for years and having knowledge in every aspect in it, you would know that gambling really is addicting even if you are winning or losing every time you bet the possibility of getting addicted is always there!

Yeah, gambling is indeed very dangerous to everyone who did the gambling, the most deadly danger is addicted to, any person who is addicted in gambling will certainly get a bit of a problem in his life and, if not immediately corrected then it will be bad
If a person has nature for being such easy to become addicted in gambling then that person can easily hooked in gambling win or lose, some of us really have a nature of being addicted, I think if not in gambling, in any other activities. So if that person uses his nature of being addicted in investing well I think it is much more profitable addiction than in gambling.
3597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: July 28, 2016, 01:17:20 PM
if you wanna stay out of gambling then stay out of internet. If you stay out of net you won't be able to play gamble in online.because if you on the net you will see many features of gambling which will attract you. I know my suggestion is little bit funny. but I think its quiet well

in my place you can gambling in offline mode too, i think it's not a real solution, im ex gambler, i stop my gambling because i found other way to growing my money, and im not interesting to deposit or gamble again although 1satoshi, because if i start gambling with small capital, i will deposit again to recover my lost, and not stoping except all my money out.

the real solution is don't touch gambling, don't thinking about gambling, if you have money/bitcoin withdraw your money then buying mining hardware Smiley

Yes that would be a great solution! and it is great seeing people that stops gambling before the worst occur to them because you will never know when addiction will strike on you, and yes bitcoin mining is still in, but it is not really recommended in some countries because of electricity cost, internet speed and cost, and the mining rig is highly expensive!

we can try other way to stop gambling, maybe trading is not bad, we can manage our time to learning about trading, then invest our money to growing our skill, it's better than gamble then lost our money

Yup! trading can be learn but you will need a lot of experience when trading, you can certainly ask a help with someone familiar with it too, and I think a lot of people are trading right now and instead of gambling and mining they will trade there bitcoin or what ever alt coins they have
As they say that experience is the best teacher, so when one like trading and want to make money he should always start with a little amount of capital so if ever he will not succeed at first try he can easily recover and make that first failure as your learning experience to continue your journey in trading.
You are right, but in gambling there is also taking risk like in gambling, but in investing we need to attend seminars or we need to read some books about trading or we need to ask more professional in investing so we can learn a lot more before we start to trade, so we can earn profit and our taking risk will not going to waste.
3598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: July 28, 2016, 01:12:39 PM
I've lost over 10BTC in the past three months, and let me tell you. Stopping isn't as easy as you might think. I don't know why I keep doing it but I do. And the result is always the same.
Net Profit: - 5.500BTC
Sometimes I play Black Jack, sometimes I play Dice. Most of the time it's dice, and that's basically where I lose all my money. Nothing ever works. Martingale: Nope. Reverse Martingale: Nope. All in 80-90%: Nope. Spamming 97% win chance: Nope. I wish I could stop lol

Don't gamble, but invest in altcoins or trade your bitcoins like buy low sell high.
You will be able to recover soon, I assure you. Smiley
Don't wait for anything that you think something might come and stop you, you should stop yourself.
Just like what he said its not that easy as you might think. The well to stop is always being eaten by the well to recover. He shouldnt have loss such amount if it was easy.
Investing is also have its own risk and we may not know if we can really earn money here. But as long as we have enough knowledge about investing this is the right place for you instead of playing gambling.
3599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: July 28, 2016, 01:10:31 PM
Majority of us cannot control ourselves in gambling and that is the reality because the number of losers compared to the winners in gambling are very huge, it that sense we can use that statistic to favor on our advantage as we want to play smart in gambling. One way I could think right now is just to invest in an online casinos just to earn a consistent money.
Yes majority of us cannot control our self and that is the fact that lots of gamblers are loser.
And I think investing in an online casinos are better than to play gambling so at least we can really earn money here and we don't need a lot of money to lose once we have enough knowledge to know more about investing this is good.
3600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: July 28, 2016, 01:06:33 PM
Gambling is risky game of money from which most people lose and just a few wins. Gambling too is addictive and fun especially when you're winning and that's why most people can't get away from gambling once they get in it.
In gambling you only win from the start then you lose whenever you win a certain amount.

Gambling itself isn't a sickness, just like having a beer, smoking cigarettes, drinking coffee, having sex, lifting weights etc. are not sicknesses.

However, if you keep doing it to the point where it ruins your life (whatever it may be), your addictive behavior is a sickness, not gambling itself.

Gambling is just a game that involving money. I don't also think that gambling is considered a sickness. it is depend on a person who is playing it and  you were right that addictive behavior is a sickness.
How someone could invest money in something unstable as a gambling, where everything depends on chance? I don't think that gambling is a sickness, though I do not accept gambling as some sort of investment. That is only a game, just some fun and not a job.

Thats true, gambling is just for fun and not a job that you can make money every month. It is also depends on luck. And if you are lucky enough, then you will get good profit in gambling. Smiley
But your luck isn't a thing that may be stable long enough. It's not a skill that allows get money, but hardly noticeable intuition that passes very quick. Yes, you'll get good profit if you are lucky, but you are lucky only now and in a minute later you may easily loose all you get by your 'luck'.
The key to win is always consistency, your luck will dictate you to gamble more because you are empowered to do so because of beginners luck, never trust luck to make your method improve.

yes I know that not all the time luck is always there for us so when you are lucky in that day and you win once and you get big amount then I guess you need to stop it from there. because as you said in a minute later you may easily loose all you get by your 'luck'. So be careful of what you wish for. and Knows our limitations.
The reality is we don't know how to stop if we don't have a goal on winning amount, it's like we are operating a business without a direction so for a gambler to be successful he should have a proper plan to implement it.
I don't think we need a proper plan in gambling, I think all we need is to have a self-discipline so if we think that we are always losing we must know when to stop from betting.
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