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10% Charm will be reserved for our Vortexledger. Vortexledger planned to be an open ledger to support barter, without any general equalent, as Ethereum (ETH), or Bitcoin (BTC), dollar (USD), euro (EUR), ...
In Vortexledger you can barter with Kisses i.e. ... A Kiss has always physical form - you know. It used in barter as long ago as animals living in our planet! Maybe more? I don't know...
Maybe Kisses needs some Charm, but Toto will be not as big as today - Toto will be hundredth less as at this time. On all Ledgers behind Dorothyum... It is possible you can't transfer only 1 Toto on a Ledger.
And we will call it Toto, as was promised before. The smallest unit in Dorothyum remains ALLWAYS Toto!
It is planned, that Toto's will be possible to move between markets. With a needed conversions, of course.
~100 000 .. 50 000 years before was only barter used between people in our globe. It become later such complex, it produced issues, the peolpe was unable to solve. It was the general equalent invented. Gold?
We know already, that our money-system has issues also. It producing issues, our politicians can't solve - we touch it at this time. We think, barter was better.
Satoshi tried to solv the issues through invent bitcoin. But Satoshi invented only a new kind of money! Our wrong money system will it use as other currencies used at this time - not the needed change, we think.
To invent money, bitcoin and open ledger was maybe only a needed step for our civilisation.
We think, the problem of barter can be solved at this time already with the knowledge it exists and with some creativity.
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About the Architecture of DorothyumDorothyum is planned to be an open ledger independent dApp... Charm, Kisses and Toto's will be freely movable between ledgers. Our planned steps: 1st and 2nd step not relevant for Vortexledger - it is developed paralell with our discussion here...  If somebody needs timeline and milestones - I can ask Merlin, but I know, what Merlin says for such questions: "There is no time, Clown, only real changes will bring our current world to an another..." Some information about the planned distribution of Charm:  We are reserving some Charm's for 2nd ICO, on different Ledger's, and for a Campaign... 3% reserved as Bounty... 1% for a Campaign Manager... (to be announced later) 1% for the Team of Campaign Manager 20% Charm for 2nd ICO on the Ethereum AND Ethereum Classic Ledger (Just to wait, up to Merlin doing some magic for a safe Ethereum smart contract... Maybe only 100 years... Merlin think it's enough, don't 1000 years needed as first planned.) 20% Charm for Exchange Bot on the Byteball Ledger (RUNNING!!!! You should pay 30% less, as the price on the Ethereum Ledger planned at this time, We offered through the BOT already the first orders with this price!) 20% Charm for 2nd ICO on the Bitcoin (RSK) Ledger (just wait - maybe we start this, with a bounty campagne, in days!!!) 20% Charm reserved for 2nd ICO on other Ledger's with some rehabilitation because some event (as i.e. MtGox bankruptcy, Horizon delisting from Poloniex, ...) in the history of bitcoin and alt's (we should it check accurately before) 10% Charm will be reserved for our Vortexledger. Vortexledger planned to be an open ledger to support barter, without any general equalent, as Ethereum (ETH), or Bitcoin (BTC), dollar (USD), euro (EUR), ... In Vortexledger you can barter with Kisses i.e. ... A Kiss has always physical form - you know. It used in barter as long ago as animals living in our planet! Maybe more? I don't know... Maybe Kisses needs some Charm, but Toto will be not as big as today - Toto will be hundredth less as at this time. On all Ledgers behind Dorothyum... It is possible you can't transfer only 1 Toto on a Ledger. And we will call it Toto, as was promised before. The smallest unit in Dorothyum remains ALLWAYS Toto! It is planned, that Toto's will be possible to move between markets. With a needed conversions, of course. ~100 000 .. 50 000 years before was only barter used between people in our globe. It become later such complex, it produced issues, the peolpe was unable to solve. It was the general equalent invented. Gold? We know already, that our money-system has issues also. It producing issues, our politicians can't solve - we touch it at this time. We think, barter was better. Satoshi tried to solv the issues through invent bitcoin. But Satoshi invented only a new kind of money! Our wrong money system will it use as other currencies used at this time - not the needed change, we think. To invent money, bitcoin and open ledger was maybe only a needed step for our civilisation. We think, the problem of barter can be solved at this time already with the knowledge it exists and with some creativity. Dorothyum will be run on every ledger where it is defined. Dorothyum will be then indepentent from the ledger through this behavior. Kisses are definitely indepentent from the type of economy - we known  |
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I start a topic for Vortexledger. I reserve some post at the start, to have some place to use it for different things. About our roots: Charm is our version for a kind of money. It is backed. You will be able to select between Vortexledger with Dorothyum (to use barter) or a Ledger (i.e. Byteball - with a kind of money: our Charm) with Dorothyum. We would like to let the possibility to try, use and compare the possibilities, or possible issues on many implementations on many ledger - with use only barter or use Charm and Kisses. We think - it is important a slowly change in the world. We needs it also. We needs many inputs, many support, many informations, many real experiences with the new economy modell... Please support us. Buy a little Charm i.e. - we need a support, I must to explain, already... After some years of independent development. Many thanks for supporters! You will be able to select. If you trust the local carpenter more as the local lawyer ... You choose the carpenter tokenized working hour (if it exists at that time some amount for you on the local market...) If you wish of course...... You will be able to pay 25000 Pizza for a bitcoin... Or?  Kisses - in physically form - are universally accepted - we hope Or? ((we did a little seaching on the web... Try google: kiss pictures))   and we would like remain with Vortexledger (ledger for barter) local and segmented, maybe offline sometimes... ((offline first db...)) It will be No Money on top of No DB No General something, No Global something - it will be used, if needed, a well known local and tokenized thing (i.e. water, milk, apple, working hour's of a local carpenter, lawyer, teacher, ...) Many things will be tokenized. You can "pay" i.e. with your tokenized working hours at your post in your village what a great idea but im still in doubt how a cashless society functions without universally accepted mode of transfer of assets?
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Our opinions are divided) I do not see the number of infinity in the questionnaire. Why the infinity of kisses can not be one thanks)
I tryed to send you a merit, but I don't have more at this time. Sorry. Maybe some thanks later - if you wish it - through OByte? Please send me pm an address... And the answer: Yes it exists many many kisses, charm and thanks in our world. I use it every day also I think - every people use it around our globe. The animals and other kind of living creatures use it also. Even a stone statue is able also to be a partner in such actions. We defined only a little set from this many many possibility - through our 1 000 000 000 Charm. It exists the physically form also we know. Mathematically: A constant plus infinite is equal to infinite also. With this small amount we don't changed the cardinality. We let it only express in electronical form through this asset. For business use or for taxation, ... i.e. If somebody has issues with a third party (tax authority, goventment, ... i.e.) he should say: many thanks and many kisses to you. And everything was payed well. Or? Of course everybody can pay well with Charm also - if she / he has enough asset (electronically form of Charm, Kisses or Thanks...) from the market. Behind Charm exists already a little distributed "central"bank - and we planning end of this year many many cells in our world - well distributed well diversified! Many thanks for the vote (please send me in pm how many THANKS would like you to have instead of promosed Merit I will ask Arthur Pendragon about) and for the question. I added infinity also. But don't forget: LOVE was defined through Charm also... A THANK should be less or LOVE should be more <3 Or? |
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Our opinions are divided) I do not see the number of infinity in the questionnaire. Why the infinity of kisses can not be one thanks)
I tryed to send you a merit, but I don't have more at this time. Sorry. Maybe some thanks later - if you wish it - through OByte? Please send me pm an address... And the answer: Yes it exists many many kisses, charm and thanks in our world. I use it every day also I think - every people use it around our globe. The animals and other kind of living creatures use it also. Even a stone statue is able also to be a partner in such actions. We defined only a little set from this many many possibility - through our 1 000 000 000 Charm. It exists the physically form also we know. Mathematically: A constant plus infinite is equal to infinite also. With this small amount we don't changed the cardinality. We let it only express in electronical form through this asset. For business use or for taxation, ... i.e. If somebody has issues with a third party (tax authority, goventment, ... i.e.) he should say: many thanks and many kisses to you. And everything was payed well. Or? Of course everybody can pay well with Charm also - if she / he has enough asset (electronically form of Charm, Kisses or Thanks...) from the market. Behind Charm exists already a little distributed "central"bank - and we planning end of this year many many cells in our world - well distributed well diversified! Many thanks for the vote (please send me in pm how many THANKS would like you to have instead of promosed Merit I will ask Arthur Pendragon about) and for the question. |
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I am still yet to make a selection because I haven't fully understood what this project is all about or even know if you are really talking about a project or something else, because from the topic name, I can see how many KISSES for 1 thanks, who are we going to kiss and who is going to tell me thank you for kissing them, please is there someone here that can actually tell me what op is talking about because I am yet to understand. Please, vote Done. Many thanks. You should see, it is a real project based (firstly) on the OByte (earlier Byteball) ledger. We planning to implement this platform for other ledger also - let the dApp ledger independent. The destination is a P2P "central"bank, and it is on the road to be established. Not simply, because we trying to have a well distributed and well diversified treasure. We must invest in, an we must travel often. Not simple. We think, everybody csn use i.e. pawnshops or good trusted friends to be a custodian in a "cell". Our algo already reviewed, and it will be implemented as somebody write a chatbot with the knowledge, what is already defined in our algo. Maybe I will have time to implement it, but it needs only a dev with some knowledge in node.js, JavaScript. Maybe postergeiss? Or Oz come back later? Not impossible any more...... Everything is published what a need for a such P2P "central"bank under github UNLICENCE. The coins of Charm are usable - if somebody accepts it. Later, if somebody has enough coins (Charm or Kisses - later Thanks) then he / she will be able to buy simple an ownership in a cell. The cell has a value (a gemstone or jevelry or oil or milk or ...) - the buyer can get it. Or he / she left the value in the cell - and then it will be produce a profit. At this time it exists only some custodians and value, we hopes at the end of this year many many cells with well distributed values (geographically AND as value typa also). Then the crypto community will have a "money" which not more a papermoney as bitcoin and EUR and USD and many more. We changing our community pages from facebook to gun.db . We stopped our facebook pages at first. The pages on gun.db will be published a little later. We had some issues with facebook. Please see OByte dev doc's and our chatbot algo - published on github: https://github.com/ifinta/a-kind-of-RFCWe waiting any responses. Many thanks for vote and many thanks for contribution through this question. |
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 I am not able to vote, but I hope, most people thinking real, if we pays TAXes later with this thing, I would like to choose the first Option: 1 I will adjust the result, if your vote count! Many thanks for your vote! |
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FYI We start a new thread about the possible value for 1 THANK. Many THANKS for contribution The first 5 vote will got a merit! ((I hope, I can give it, if not, we will diskuss it in pm...)) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124102.0Many thanks for the ideas. I forked the whole project, and I will send some hints, corrections later. Maybe a working bot Many thanks. If you able to develop the bot, we are ready to pay with kisses...... It is good for you? Or do you wants only develop - and some THANKS, and nothing more? |
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We start a new thread about the possible value for 1 THANK. Many THANKS for contribution The first 5 vote will got a merit! ((I hope, I can give it, if not, we will diskuss it in pm...)) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124102.0Many thanks for the ideas. I forked the whole project, and I will send some hints, corrections later. Maybe a working bot Many thanks. If you able to develop the bot, we are ready to pay with kisses...... It is good for you? Or do you wants only develop - and some THANKS, and nothing more? |
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About KISSes: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4458732It will be implemented, that you can pay for bees with THANKs! Because the well living flowers, trees, fruits, and more. For the honig also. Of course...... And the bees will give us THANKs, if we don't destroy the living envirnoment for the bees on our planet. A good 'No' Businness - we think. It will be able to give our government THANKs, if you wish, and not only a BIG prescribed TAX. Better. Or? Of course the predescribed TAX will remain, i.e. 1%, 2% or 3% of income i.e. Maximal? I don't now. It will be later decided. Please follow us on the facebook also: https://www.facebook.com/No-Republica-926677260862586 |
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Many thanks for the ideas. I forked the whole project, and I will send some hints, corrections later. Maybe a working bot Many thanks. If you able to develop the bot, we are ready to pay with kisses...... It is good for you? Or do you wants only develop - and some THANKS, and nothing more? |
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No bid. Good. I understand. Nobody would like take such a share. This auction was closed with this post.
The emerald belongs since 8.3.2019 to Austria... Please see our official thread about. The Charm value will be corrected to the actual sales value of the emerald, AND the actual fair value of Charm. Dorotheum is the custodian at this time. Maybe Dorotheum will be this emerald sell through an auction agains EUR's... Arthur Pendragon said: no matter, how you owned this emerald - the cell will belong to you. Don't forget to follow the auctions at Dorotheum - if you interesting for a such share agains EUR! Don't forget - this is the crypto world. It has risks and big gains, losts also. But Charm is a backed Asset! Not a papermoney as EUR, USD or Bitcoin, ... If the plan will be done, what we with Arthur Pendragon published - this amount of Kisses will costs end of this year: 17 720 133 USD It means - you should then invest a such amount of values end of this year (if the plan realised well), if you would like to own a such share in Dorothyum......No bid. Good. I understand. Nobody would like take such a share. This auction was closed with this post.
The emerald belongs since 8.3.2019 to Austria... Please see our official thread about. The Charm value will be corrected to the actual sales value of the emerald, AND the actual fair value of Charm. We corrected the Cell Value. Please see below: This emerald and this cell backs 11813422 Charm - up to this cell exists.  The emerald unique - because the Jardin in it - and because the IGI certification. IGI should be able to decide about a similar emerald - it is the same or not. Many thanks for attention and support. |
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This might be interesting, but by the way what you don't plan to make the web site and develop it on a regular basis, I think it would be easier for the community to learn any information about the project from there.
Many thanks for feedbacks. I am happy - maybe it will be started some diskussion about our plan and work. To be establish a real community - to have more support for us. We considered to save some working hours, and not to develop things (whitepage, websites, ...) with many buzzwords, and promises - we started an agile development, with many diskussions, tests... If something will be needs, we will develop it, if exists people to do something also - it exists many possibility to extend this new type of economy, we already feel it... |
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No bid. Good. I understand. Nobody would like take such a share. This auction was closed with this post.
The emerald belongs since 8.3.2019 to Austria... Please see our official thread about. The Charm value will be corrected to the actual sales value of the emerald, AND the actual fair value of Charm. |
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I like this idea, it helps to ensure that there is no overspend. However, it will be hard to maintain in a volatile market unless you have a lot of capital to make up the difference. Never used xapo so i won't participate but it is interesting nonetheless.
Many thanks. I think - it needs an app. With gun.db i.e. It could be act through a community - using such app. Every member can decide - how to do, but should be save the actual portfolio after every step. I am at this time in an other project...... No time for all ideas - sorry. But this algo is unlicenced here But please let me inform, if you are ready with the implementation - I would like to be a node or member Sure. I do not think such community is already in existence here and would also be interested in been a member if there’s any but my fear is on how we prevent whales from over dominating the group as we are sure of definitely having them and there might be chances of collaboration on their path to either increase or drop prices and this would sure forfeit the purpose of the group. Please can you also try to put more light on the gun. DB., i understand you have a tight schedule but please understand that this is a necessity to many at the moment and you would be an hero to come through. please: https://github.com/amark/gun |
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And an important information. We hired a person, to be the CEO of our FED: I would like to present his face:  I just met with he on the bitcoinwisdom. Bitstamp. |
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Report:
- I decided to act again.
- My funds on Lykke (at this time): 2407.76 CHF and 0.9449 BTC
My funds on Lykke not reachable at this time  The same amount... But not as valuable, as before. I try to contact Lykke support this year also... I need patiente, I know. A question: did sombody implemented this algo? Or act similar at price changes? My funds are unreachable at Lykke - since end of 2017? I trying to solve it, but I have no enough time to do everything... My Lykke wallet working!!!! Many thanks for the Support from Lykke...... I see my assets again. This thread shows a possible FED system for bitcoin. But... It exists many issues. Fee's or unreachable accounts on exchanges, wallets...... Randomly. We should learn from past - I think. I started a development to establish a backed crypto - Charm. 100 Charm are 1 Kiss. It is possible then to pay with Kisses for a pizza or caffe It shouldn't be taxed. Or? This "money" backed through "cells" and values as gold, silver, emeralds, ... later: oil, immobiles, ... We planning this asset for Bitcoin network also! We hope, we find partners for our development. Dorotheum? Christie? ... Some is under diskussion already. Please see and follow the steps of our development in the official thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4392525.0Many thanks for attention, for any support... |
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Report:
- I decided to act again.
- My funds on Lykke (at this time): 2407.76 CHF and 0.9449 BTC
My funds on Lykke not reachable at this time The same amount... But not as valuable, as before. I try to contact Lykke support this year also... I need patiente, I know. A question: did sombody implemented this algo? Or act similar at price changes? My funds are unreachable at Lykke - since end of 2017? I trying to solve it, but I have no enough time to do everything... My Lykke wallet working!!!! Many thanks for the Support from Lykke...... I see my assets again. |
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