BitBills is great just checked them out, but a perfect solution would be if anyone could just print them....
The issue is that there would be no way to verify that the printed bitcoin (aka address/wallet) indeed DOES have the funds it is supposed to represent. |
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It did take me 12 hours to download all the blocks though. Isn't this going to become a huge issue for new users a couple of years from now when it takes days to download all the blocks? What if BTC is still around 100 years from now? How long will it take then?
There are other option available in the future. Including, but not limited to, simply including a recent copy of the blockchain in each new client release to be downloaded directly rather than over the p2p network and verified by each client upon first start. It's the verification process that takes most of the time, not the actual downloading. Does that not introduce centralization? |
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WHOIS on WalletInspector.info: Domain ID:D38406131-LRMS
Domain Name:WALLETINSPECTOR.INFO
Created On:14-Jun-2011 02:56:37 UTC
Last Updated On:16-Jun-2011 16:06:30 UTC
Expiration Date:14-Jun-2012 02:56:37 UTC
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Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
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Admin ID:nca-10896789-d53
Admin Name:Wallet Inspector
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Billing ID:ncb-10896791-e40
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Tech ID:nct-10896790-2e8
Tech Name:Wallet Inspector
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Registrant Contact:
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Fullerton, CA 92836
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Evan S. (support@fluxity.com)
+1.7149220210
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Fullerton, CA 92836
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Fluxity Online
Evan S. (support@fluxity.com)
+1.7149220210
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PO Box 252
Fullerton, CA 92836
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Status: Locked
Name Servers:
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Creation date: 16 Oct 2007 00:25:21
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No antivirus is going to protect you from being hacked. The malware writers use packaging and encryption to make payload undetected.
I feel somehow sorry for you if this is true story. Learn about real security, but I have no idea where. The books and online sources are misleading. I got my experience on computer security as computer repairman/gamer/nonstandart server hoster/disruptive scriptkiddie/botnet owner. More than 10 years of such activity btw.
Can you provide any advice as to where one might begin learning about this? The OP claims he took all the basic precautions: AV, behind a router firewall, windows patched up to date, etc. What Version of Windows was OP running? The link to infostealer.com that someone else posted only lists xp, NT, and 2000 as applicable OS'es. So Vista and WIn 7 are not vulnerable to that particular exploit? I cannot see a reason as to why that stealer would not work on any version of windows. If it just grabs a file and emails it.... there is nothing OS-specific in there. |
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The recent hacking spree might be due to LulzSec releasing over 60k passwords + emails a week...be careful and change password often, never use the same password for different services.
I know I don't reuse passwords myself (plus, I was not in the dump), so if that is related, that is at least not the only attack vector. |
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maybe no more putting your wallet addresses in signatures as well...
That should not matter. "Should" doesn't really apply in cases of identity theft... everyone's money SHOULD be safe... I'm just saying - too easy to track who's got what where, etc. If you see somebody withdrawing 500 BTC from somewhere if you're a hacker, and you search for their wallet ID and come up with their forum name, etc. is what I'm getting at. Yes, but if you cannot link that address to other addresses, it won't really do much. |
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Before I say anything, let me get this straight: I do NOT accuse either site of being a scam or not being trustworthy. This is just a list of concerns I have regarding the two that may be worth looking into, and my own reasons as to why I am wary of these exchanges.
Also, please leave out the matter of countries that the exchanges originate from. It has no use to use statistics to determine whether an exchange is trustable or not, instead it would be a better idea to look at concrete information and facts.
So recently two new exchanges, Bitcoin7 and Tradehill, have popped up. A few things that are bothering me.
Tradehill:
1. * Seems to have copied the design (CSS / page structure) from Mt. Gox and modified it.
2. * Copypasted the FAQ from BitcoinExchange.cc (using Google Cache you can see a version of their FAQ where in one place it actually said "BitcoinExchange" instead of "Tradehill")
3. * Set up out of nowhere by what looks like an unknown member within "the community", yet immediately looks very polished.
4. * Has a stable, almost artificial looking, volume, while on other exchanges the volume fluctuates a lot more
5. * Has a refferal system that offers discounts
6. * Grows from nowhere to reasonable big (compared to other exchanges) in a matter of days.
I'm gonna respond to all your points here: 1. MtGox (Gox) barely has a page structure to begin with, the site is very simple with only a few links on the left. Once you login to TradeHill (TH) the site is wildly different than Gox 2. Not sure of this, however that dosent really make a difference. Most sites copy their competitors information 3. Being polished has nothing to do with being set up out of nowhere. TH has a team of excellent programmers based here in the United States. 4. Can't really answer this, they are a much smaller site although the second largest exchange. 5. Thats what made them grow. Its a pretty good marketing strategy actually. 6. I answered this above ^. They are growing fast because they have a good, American based team, they answer CS issues quickly, they have a nice site, and good business ethics. I think they will surpass Japanese based Gox in a few months forsure. I must point out that I know the TradeHill team personally so my response is a tad biased towards them. My point being, I trust TradeHill more than Gox. The only reason we all use Gox is because they were the first ones. 1. Whether they "barely have a page structure" or not has nothing to do with it. It looks similar enough in layout and visual characteristics, for it to be likely that it was just copied and modified CSS and HTML. That someone doesn't consider it "special enough" does not mean you can blindly copy it - Mt. Gox definitely has a distinct page style, even if it's 'minimalistic'. I haven't seen the "members area". 2. I don't know what kind of businesses you are talking about, but I don't know of any industry where copying text (and obviously not even really changing it except for a find-and-replace on the name) is standard practice - or acceptable, for that matter. 3. If they indeed have an actual team working on it, point taken. 5. I tend to get a bit itchy when I see referal systems, because in my experience this is mostly because said site can otherwise not grow for some reason, be it a bad business model, shady underlying business, or just because it's impossible to get into a monopolized market. I hope it's the latter, but I can't discount past experiences with other reasons for referal systems. 6. The "American based team" seems irrelevant to me. While I understand that some people might have an (in my opinion unjust) aversion against for example east-european countries (and businesses originating there), I don't see how "American based" would be considered any more trustable by someone than for example "West European based" or even "Japan based". As for the customer support, I have no experience with this, and the same goes for their business ethics (do you have any examples?). Thanks for responding! 1. I guess you missed my point, thats my fault. What I was getting at is they did not copy Mt.Gox, in fact, theres nothing about Mt.Gox to copy. Have you logged into TH? You'll see their site is wildly different then Gox 2. In pretty much every industry, something trivial like the FAQ, will be used as a basis for a competitor. Agreed, they should not have copy-pasted it, but if those are your grounds for being not trusted, then your gonna have to have more than that my friend! 3. Yup, a really good team! Thats why they will surpass Gox in a few months. 5. I assume thats your own personal opinion and not your professional one? I've been in the marketing industry for over 8 years and referral programs most defiantly do not mean that. Try to look at it like this, can you think of a more cost-effective method of marketing an exchange in such a new and young industry? 6. Again, are you someone who's in the e-commerce industry? If you are, you definitely know that an American company who is catering to an English speaking consumer base is much better than a Japanese one. ESPECIALLY a company in which your transferring thousands of dollars to! I don't know about you, but I'd rather the American one. I hope I articulated my points, let me know if you have any questions! There is definitely something about Mt. Gox to copy. Quick comparison of main layout elements, obviously showing things being copied:  Now I am not a particular supporter of copyright law as it stands, but I do believe that you can't simply copy the entire design (and make a few changes) for commercial purposes, especially not for a relatively lucrative business. The thing about referal programs is just based on what I have experienced in the past few years, from an "internet user" viewpoint. It's all great that you look at it from an "ecommerce guy" viewpoint, but it's the "regular internet users" that have to deal with the consequences - and from a "regular internet user" viewpoint I've found that I (and many others with me) have usually found companies that rely this heavily on referal systems, are often shady in one way or another. I understand your point about physical location, but I tried to make a point about American vs West-European mostly. I don't think that for example a UK-based business would be any different from a US-based business in that regard. |
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My wallet.dat is located in default place on my computer running Windows 7. But you will never get it! I don't make mistakes like other users and I don't run malware on my computer.
The next big thread will be when someone securing wallet.dat will get lose all of his coins, when some piece of Rube Goldberg machine of security breaks.
Until you get hit by an 0day in the browser you use. |
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As a newbie who just heard about bitcoins on a pod cast ( Buzz out loud ), I too want to get into them but @ $18+ makes me cautious. I personally think there is a lot of hype going around and the short attention span of the internet will cause prices to stabilise sooner rather than later.
A number doesn't mean anything. It could be 1800$ per BTC as well, and all that would mean would be that you'd shift some decimal places. 1 = 1 (parity) is nothing more than a psychological waypoint. The value itself does not say anything, the change of the value over time does. Unfortunately for bitcoins, psychological waypoints, as you like to call them, can be quite significant. Let's face it - would you rather buy 100 bitcoins for $10, or 0.001 bitcoins for $10? It just doesn't feel right to be buying such a small fraction for such a large price, and that is something that will prevent many people from entering the market. And that is why it may be a good idea to use the smaller "denominations" more regularly, so that it still seems familiar to people. |
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As a newbie who just heard about bitcoins on a pod cast ( Buzz out loud ), I too want to get into them but @ $18+ makes me cautious. I personally think there is a lot of hype going around and the short attention span of the internet will cause prices to stabilise sooner rather than later.
A number doesn't mean anything. It could be 1800$ per BTC as well, and all that would mean would be that you'd shift some decimal places. 1 = 1 (parity) is nothing more than a psychological waypoint. The value itself does not say anything, the change of the value over time does. |
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maybe no more putting your wallet addresses in signatures as well...
That should not matter. |
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I just tried to Login and got this message:
Too many failure from your IP, temporarly blocked.
I hardly ever go onto mtgox and I've always entered the right password. Anyone got any ideas what this nonsense means?
Are you using a TOR node, proxy, VPN, or otherwise something that might mean you share your IP with others? |
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If I publish the tainted transactions and it is public knowledge, then nobody can say they didnīt know. If I sell you a stolen car, the car legally gets returned to its rightful owner.
You expect for example a company that is selling hosting, to actively verify the identity of everyone who buys hosting, then check all inputs for possible traces of tained coins through the entire blockchain, and then publicly call out about this person? Or what? What you are suggesting is unreasonable, unfeasible, and impossible to enforce. You simply cannot expect someone to trace back *every* single payment they get to find out whether there might possible be a vague trace of tainted coins. |
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MtGox or Bitcoin7?
The main focus is Mt. Gox but if your account on another exchange/webwallet/mining pool got compromised, it might be useful to post here as well. There may be a targeted attack at multiple services. |
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Got compromised this morning.
Lost funds: about $2000
Sent to: 1PYrg3rujFzuczePRwdW8RV27s5cbRU1hE
OS: OSX 10.6 and Xubuntu 11.04
Password length: 11 characters
Random: No, non-dictionary word
Characters: lowercase, and numbers.
Software: Only the native mac client with no mining.
Screenshot: I'll have this up shortly.
I just ninja-edited the first post, so it was probably not in the list you copied... do you have the same username on Mt. Gox as on the forums here? |
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You are kidding right? I think someone here needs to have the yearly checkup on his scam detector |
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