Hi Folks,
Any help will be appreciated. For the pro who can guide me through my setup, I will be more than happy to donate some BTC to you or some USD to you for your time and help.
What I am looking for.
I am building atleast 5 2x 6990 riggs so mining power will be atleast 6.5ghash/s . If things work out that will be doubled to 10 riggs with a total of 13ghash/s.
I want to know what is the best way to set this up so all my riggs dont compete with each other on blocks, and mine to 1 global wallet, or what ever way is the most efficient to do so.
Also, I would like to know if it is better to go with ubuntu or windows?
Lastly, I would like to set up a mining pool for the future. Any help will be appreciated thanks!
Each card gets their own work, and work toward getting an answer to generate a block, they do not compete with each other. The best way would probably to set up bitcoin on 1 computer and set up the bitcoin.conf to accept connections from clients on the network then connect all clients on the network to it. This is quite easy to do. OS is a personal preference. 1 benefit that linux has under windows is not having to have a monitor or dummy plug plugged into every card, if you're not using crossfire, like windows needs to be able to mine on it. Crossfire doesn't give the best performance you can get. This is your own pool. If you're talking about setting up a pool so other people can connect to it, that's a totally different topic. |
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The basis of bitcoin is a free (as in open) currency and economy, even down to the code. I'm shocked! ShOcKeD! I tell you that free market principles have sprung up. Simple stuff like, providing the best service for an acceptble fee for example. Who would have though?!
I can't wait for an attack to occur. I want to see if the resilience of Bitcoin is worth the time and effort so many have put into it. I wouldn't call it an attack (though I haven't seen any details other than slush was offline), but the system recovered pretty quickly when slush's pool went down. I have quite a bit of faith that the network can recover if all the big pools were maliciously attacked to the point that were taken offline for an extended period of time. Even though I don't mine solo, I tested it before moving to a pool, I know how to set it up and could move over to it pretty quickly if need be. |
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The basis of bitcoin is a free (as in open) currency and economy, even down to the code. I'm shocked! ShOcKeD! I tell you that free market principles have sprung up. Simple stuff like, providing the best service for an acceptble fee for example. Who would have though?!
I have high hopes for this project, but I have to wonder where it can go when people refuse take account of their actions. I've listened to various systems be blamed for the suffering of humanity, but when a brilliant system comes along and people manage to fuck it up regardless, I have to ask myself, is it the fault of the system or the users. It will go to the scape goats because as you said, people will refuse to take responsibility. Just like it's all the pool owners faults that they are so big and successful. Right? People will manage to screw up any system they're given. Purely because someone always thinks they can do it better or it's not meeting their expectations, so they need to regulate it. A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it. - Agent K, Men in Black |
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In a conspiracy to make 800-1k$ per day? I want in on that!
I meant to say that was approximately the value of what is being collected from fees @ current ghash rate, without any further control/manipulation of the system. Yeah, I know what you meant. If you don't trust them then don't use their services. If you think they are conspiring to take down bitcoin then don't use bitcoin. If you're using bitcoin and griping about mass conspiracy then you're either in it for the money and only worried about losing it or just plain being hypocritical. This is the 3rd time this argument has come up in 2 weeks and degenerated into the hypothetical of Slush and Tyco conspiring to take over the network and/or the possibility of someone breaking into a pool and stealing/redirecting all the coins. It's old now. As mentioned before, they could be the most trustworthy people in the world, but that does not take away from the fact that the community should do something about what could be a potential problem. Those guys run a great service and kudos to them, their reward is the fairly easy-to-come-by fees they are picking up for running a good service early in the bitcoin game. Deviating from large pools is healthier for bitcoin in general though: only the people that are concerned with immediate profits as opposed to the success of bitcoin in general would be the ones that would indirectly promote such lopsided control. Except the community is the one causing the "problem". It's not Tyco's or Slush's fault that a majority of people are using their services! It's pretty basic nature that most people want to be part of the largest group. So far the only "do something" I have seen is to ask them to limit their member, to which I would say no if I were them. Again, this is the 3rd time I have seen the argument that they need to be regulated when people are going to them freely. The only thing that can be done it to ask/motivate miners to diversify themselves. The only way to reach them all is for the pool to disappear since some percentage of them probably don't use the forums let alone live on them. It's also not very productive to try to get people to diversify in threads like this that start out dramatic, post incorrect information, and degenerate into flaming and conspiracy. The basis of bitcoin is a free (as in open) currency and economy, even down to the code. I'm shocked! ShOcKeD! I tell you that free market principles have sprung up. Simple stuff like, providing the best service for an acceptble fee for example. Who would have though?! |
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In a conspiracy to make 800-1k$ per day? I want in on that!
I meant to say that was approximately the value of what is being collected from fees @ current ghash rate, without any further control/manipulation of the system. Yeah, I know what you meant. If you don't trust them then don't use their services. If you think they are conspiring to take down bitcoin then don't use bitcoin. If you're using bitcoin and griping about mass conspiracy then you're either in it for the money and only worried about losing it or just plain being hypocritical. This is the 3rd time this argument has come up in 2 weeks and degenerated into the hypothetical of Slush and Tyco conspiring to take over the network and/or the possibility of someone breaking into a pool and stealing/redirecting all the coins. It's old now. |
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And pool operators DESERVE to take a scrape off the top. They went through the trouble to build the pool and manage it day to day. Of course they deserve a share of the profits! I have no problem with that.
And politicians DESERVE to take a scrape off the top. They went through the trouble to build the government and manage it day to day. Of course they deserve a share of our tax dollars! I have no problem with that And both happen because you allow it. One with majority vote, and the other with usage of the service. One is much easier to solve than the other though. |
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The "exact exploit conditions presented by the creator" are having => 50% of the network power, which no one person has, and also that they are anonymous so that no one knows where to go looking if someone trys said exploit.
No one can know if pool owners can be in cahoots with one another. At current rates, pools the size of deepbit are already making profit potentials upwards of 800-1k$ daily. And, if deepbit were larger if used for an attack, how much could it net from such an attack before being discovered? Right now, I think not that much [but still considerable ... but not enough for operators to give up their revenue stream]. I wouldn't expect pool owners to be part of it [although surprises do occur, but I don't think so for the current time frame anyway]. If a major pool is ever hacked, it's much more likely to be hacked quietly with the intent of the attacker redirecting the pool's earnings to himself. In this community, how long would it take for a flood of messages to show up on the message board saying people aren't getting their payouts? I'm guessing as soon as 6-8 people posted sequentially there would be mass exodus. Even this style of attack would have limited success. |
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The "exact exploit conditions presented by the creator" are having => 50% of the network power, which no one person has, and also that they are anonymous so that no one knows where to go looking if someone trys said exploit.
No one can know if pool owners can be in cahoots with one another. At current rates, pools the size of deepbit are already making profit potentials upwards of 800-1k$ daily, not to mention the power that comes with having that much of the network. In a conspiracy to make 800-1k$ per day? I want in on that! |
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You people flock to bitcoin supposedly to reclaim public, distributed control over a currency, and then you just give away the power to the first pool operator who asks for it.
Key word is give. It can be taken away too. The fact that people are actually arguing here that "deepbit would never do such a thing" is unbelievable. Is he Jesus now? Is he your new guru? I thought the entire point of bitcoin was that no one would be the guru, no one would have control.
That's free market principles at work. They provide a great service and people use it until they do something to lose people's trust then they go elsewhere. And then you have the incredibly naive and ignorant argument that if someone abused the network people would "rally" to save it. What fantasy world is this? That's not what would happen. People would abandon the currency because they don't want to sink more money into a flawed concept and flawed community.
If by save then you mean abandon the site and redistribute the power by going to other pools that are springing up left and right or going solo, then yes, absolutely. Amateur hour. The fact that one man already actively controls enough cryptographic power to break the validity of the currency with NO OVERSIGHT and people put their BLIND FAITH in him..... no serious person is going to have confidence in the currency when they learn that the exact exploit conditions presented by the creator have already been fulfilled, and not through investing significant personal resources either, but fulfilled because bitcoin users VOLUNTARILY GAVE AWAY their cryptographic authority to him. Amazing!
People put blind faith in their federal governments, state governments, city governments, local governments, home owners associations, parent/teacher associations, and any other group that they join voluntarily. Oversight is it's own joke. Everyone thinks they know how to do it right and do it better. The difference here is that protesting is as easy as pulling your hashing power and moving it somewhere else. Until users are given a reason to do so they will keep using whatever service they choose. The "exact exploit conditions presented by the creator" are having => 50% of the network power, which no one person has, and also that they are anonymous so that no one knows where to go looking if someone trys said exploit. |
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Eligius pays out instantly into your wallet via a generation transaction. Well, you cannot spend those coins before at least 100 confirmations, so it is basically the same as many other pools. Deepbit isn't "instant" too, it takes one hour to show block on the account... I don't mind the hour delay, It's those confirms that I do mind. It takes WELL over an hour to get 100-120 confirms. Like I said, If there was a pool that handled it almost exactly like deepbit does. I'd switch. BTC Guild does payouts on demand (pay me now button) for confirmed transactions, and unconfirmed transactions if you voluntarily donate 2.5%+. They don't however have threshold payout yet (not sure if he plans on implementing that). |
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So if I set the core and memory clocks using amdoverdrivectrl, the settings don't persist?
--odcc is supposed to commit clock speeds, I have never used it. I don't think it will work while using amdoverdrivectrl to lower the mem clock below the standard bios limit though. That's why I have it in a shell script. |
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I manually set FAN_SETTING percentage and FAN_CTRL enabled to no then removed everything else below that. <OVERDRIVE_PROFILE>
<PERFORMANCE_LEVEL level="2" gpu="90000" mem="30000" voltage="1088"/>
<PERFORMANCE_LEVEL level="1" gpu="55000" mem="30000" voltage="1038"/>
<PERFORMANCE_LEVEL level="0" gpu="15700" mem="30000" voltage="1000"/>
<FAN_SETTING percentage="75"/>
<FAN_CTRL enabled="no"/>
</OVERDRIVE_PROFILE>
then made a shell script to run overdrive on each card
export DISPLAY=:0.0
aticonfig --od-enable
AMDOverdriveCtrl -b -i 0 AMDOverDrive
AMDOverdriveCtrl -b -i 3 AMDOverDrive
AMDOverdriveCtrl -b -i 6 AMDOverDrive
works from an ssh session just fine as long as X, fglrx, and opencl are working properly and once it's enabled aticonfig --odgc --adapter=all should show the memory going all the way down to the lowest point and be changeable with --odsc |
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Sempron 145, 2G memory, hard drive, and 3 x Overclocked 5850
621 watts
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Bumpp!!  Everything looks about right. If you want the absolute cheapest video card you can find then you're most likely going to have to wait for newegg to get them back in stock. If you're in or near a decent sized city you might be able to find a good deal locally or on craigslist. |
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Yeah, that's a nice board  . It's a shame the last slot is unusable if you have a case. You just need a better case. Look for a PC-K57 or Lanboy. Vendors are slowly coming out with cases with 8 expansion slots in the back and will fit 4 double spaced cards. |
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I wish I had as long kitchen as yours. Then, I would not have to mine inside my living room, fighting with noise and heat. I watched your video, and the one other bitcoin rig video on youtube at the time, before I decided to buy some dedicated hardware. Unfortunently I didn't have the money to go all out with 2 5970's right off the bat. |
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I just got an open box one of those on the way. I'm hoping it's not the one he's talking about. |
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It's not the firmware. Those are PCI id's of the devices in the linux system.
lspci will show you all PCI devices on the system.
I have more than one card and number of shares submitted races back and forth all the time.
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