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3621  Economy / Gambling / Re: NitrogenSports.EU - Bitcoin Sportsbetting - Best Odds - Teasers - Mobile on: March 19, 2014, 04:00:16 AM
Can someone explain what a "teaser" is?

And also, with the parlay bets on the leaderboard.. I dont understand how the #1 guy risked 3 BTC and won 48 BTC on 5/6 win parlay. All of the bets were 1.6 odds or weaker. I don't get it.

In the NFL and college football, teaser bets are very popular. The 6 point teasers are the most popular. Using the lines below:

Bears -9 vs Det
GB -7.5 vs Minn

If you wanted a 6 point teaser with GB and the Bears then you are moving the line 6 points in both games.

Bears are now -3
GB is now -1.5

You would have to win both bets Bears -3 and GB -2.5 to win.
3622  Economy / Gambling / Re: WARNING - SBObitcoin.com appears to be closed - accounts suspended. on: March 18, 2014, 09:25:01 PM
Current Ratings

"A" rated books
Anonibet A
Betcoinsports A-

"B"rated books
Casinobitco.in B
Cloudbet B 
CoinBet B
DirectBet
NitrogenSports B
SBObitcoin B-

"C" rated books
Bitbm C
Bitcoinlivebets C-


"D" rated books
BTCSportsbet
BTCSportsmatch
Jetwin

"F" rated books
Bitcoinsport
Bitsaloon
StakeBTC
BitBook (closing down)
3623  Economy / Gambling / Re: WARNING - SBObitcoin.com appears to be closed - accounts suspended. on: March 18, 2014, 09:18:45 PM
Peeps Place - "This is the last time that I reply to your lies. You know a guy that plays there. You called him an acquaintance. You never played there since you called the book a scam a while back."

I just glanced over my posts. I never used the word "scam" in relation to SBObitcoin.com.

I never said that they were a "scam". I never said I suspected they may be a "scam".

You are putting words in my mouth that you are inventing.

I did due diligence, unlike yourself, and this was appreciated by forum members.

You do due diligence? That's why you said that SBOBitcoin closed? Your definition of due diligence is different than the rest of the world.
3624  Economy / Gambling / Re: WARNING - SBObitcoin.com appears to be closed - accounts suspended. on: March 18, 2014, 09:12:52 PM
Gogo- Seriously, what's wrong with you? It's lie after lie. Here was my review of SBOBitcoin.

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SBObitcoin.com opens at an “A” rating surpassing Bitbook as the top rated place to play using bitcoins. SBObitcoin is an agent of the top sports books in the world in PinnacleSports, SBOBET and IBCBET. Players deposit bitcoins with SBObitcoin and they are then exchanged for your choice of Hong Kong dollars or Singapore dollars. The Asian dollars are then deposited into the sports book. The exchange rate of your deposits and withdraws will stay the same and not fluctuate. It takes 3-5 minutes for withdraws and six confirmations are needed for deposits. Live chat is open 24/7.

SBObitcoin has been in business for six months with bitcoin accounts and seven years overall. SBObitcoin states that they are one of the products of Ole Group Philippines Inc., and are licensed and regulated by the Government of the Philippines under First Cagayan Resort & Leisure Corporation.

There have been no reports of payout problems with SBObitcoin. Both Pinnacle Sports and SBOBET are top rated sports books in the world taking the highest wagers. Pinnacle takes the largest wagers on American sports while SBOBET takes the largest wagers in soccer. The book hold at Pinnacle is the lowest in the industry and SBOBET is not far behind.
3625  Economy / Gambling / Re: WARNING - SBObitcoin.com appears to be closed - accounts suspended. on: March 18, 2014, 09:09:23 PM


Peeps Place - "This is the last time that I reply to your lies. You know a guy that plays there. You called him an acquaintance. You never played there since you called the book a scam a while back."

I never called the book a scam.

I questioned whether they were a scam (the same question I ask about every new book), but investigated to verify claims made on their website before deciding.

Unlike you - you did a cut and paste of info posted on their website, and called it a "review".

The only 2 posters to comment on the thread were both appreciative of my efforts and both agreed that simply repeating claims made on a website without doing any due diligence is meaningless on your part.
lies again. I said that BTCBitcoin states. "States" means it their words, not mine. I quoted SBOBitcoin. I then went on to do a review. As I told you before, just stop already.
3626  Economy / Gambling / Re: WARNING - SBObitcoin.com appears to be closed - accounts suspended. on: March 18, 2014, 08:46:35 PM
It went from 6000 to 4000 and then back up to 6000. Everyone that had played there prior to 3/7 would know this.
3627  Economy / Gambling / Re: WARNING - SBObitcoin.com appears to be closed - accounts suspended. on: March 18, 2014, 08:43:16 PM
I was paid with seconds of making my request today FYI.

Good news.


Interesting that both you and I were changed from 4k HKD/btc to 6k HKD/btc (and I'm sure that is the case for all).


But Peeps Place claims the reverse - that he was just lowered from 6k HKD/btc to 4k HKD/btc.
How odd.

Peeps Place - ""Here's the email that SBOBitcoin sent to me.

'...From now on we use the new rate is 4000 to all members. If you want to play, we can transfer your balance to the new account using 4000 rate.'  "


Peeps Place - ""If you really had accounts with these books, as you have said, then you would have known this."

Right.


This is the last time that I reply to your lies. You know a guy that plays there. You called him an acquaintance. You never played there since you called the book a scam a while back. BTC prices are volatile. Here's the email that I was sent. As you can see it goes back some time. If you played at SBBitcoin you would know this. Look at the date of the change Match 9.

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We would like to inform you on the update regarding the change of rate for all members.

With your existing account,if you will not play and you want to withdraw, you can do so anytime you want.  We will still use the 6000 rate as the rate for the first time you joined us. But your account now can only be used till Sunday, March 9, 2014. After that, we will suspend the ID but we guarantee you can still withdraw from that ID use 6000 rate. From now on we use the new rate is 4000 to all members. If you want to play, we can transfer your balance to the new account using 4000 rate.  

We highly appreciate a response from you as soon as possible regarding this matter.

Best regards,
SBO Bitcoin





3628  Economy / Gambling / Re: Free March Madness BTC contests. Nitrogen has a 3 BTC one. Post of others on: March 18, 2014, 06:07:04 PM
Any other contests?
3629  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books on: March 18, 2014, 06:52:41 AM
Coinbet made some changes. Their layout is great and user friendly.
3630  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books on: March 18, 2014, 06:40:14 AM
BTCSportsmatch is very tough to rate. The book side, that is no longer in existence, stole 8 BTC from booslock. Personally, I don't like to give a book a mulligan. That said, there has been strong support for the exchange from very credible posters. BTCSports has not had any problems on the exchange side.

Is it the same company?  Then one side is liable for what the other side has done.
Yes and I agree. They recently shut down the sportsbook side.
3631  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books on: March 18, 2014, 06:31:53 AM
BTCSportsmatch is very tough to rate. The book side, that is no longer in existence, stole 8 BTC from booslock. Personally, I don't like to give a book a mulligan. That said, there has been strong support for the exchange from very credible posters. BTCSports has not had any problems on the exchange side.

I don't like the idea of my offer being accepted at a different price. Some posters feel that the positives out weigh this negative. The majority always wins when rating books. One great thing that has happened here is that there has been enough poster feedback that the players have a lot of information at their disposal without solely relying on a grade.
3632  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books on: March 18, 2014, 06:16:01 AM
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BTCSportsBet, Bitcoin Sportsbook, yet to comment on stealing $6,700
By: SBR | Tuesday, January 14, 2014

BTCSportsBet, the Bitcoin sportsbook which was the subject of SBR's advisory video report Friday, has declined comment to SBR since the report's publication. BTCSportsBet refused to pay 8 BTC (valued at $6,700 at the time) in winnings from four wagers. The wagers were placed at valid market odds and were not entered late.

BTCSportsBet has claimed to be the largest and oldest sportsbook of its kind - an assertion that has been rejected by at least one bitcoin betting reviews site.

"They are definitely not the biggest, that is bitbook. I never affiliated with them as they did not look like a good option for players compared to the top places," the site manager noted on condition of anonymity.

BTCSportsBet's web server resolves to Germany, although no public address or even headquarters location is made available through their website. The transaction wallet is proprietary software coded in PHP and JSON. The betting software used to display lines and accept wagers is unknown but presumed to also be proprietary.

A standard wager ticket appears as following on the BTCSportsBet website:



SBR welcomes feedback from readers who might have information on the betting software being used by BTCSportsBet.

BTCSportsBet, bitcoin sportsbook, steals $6,700 in player winnings is the complaint cited in this article. Prior to this publication, BTCSportsBet traded a few contentiously worded messages with SBR suggesting that their reputation within the bitcoin community was strong enough to overcome any PR damage caused by the report. That theory has already been put to test as the player who was shorted $6,700 has aired his grievance at BitCoinTalk.org, a forum BTC Sports Bet previously advertised their service in.

Watch the SBR video concerning the winnings theft:


SBR is in the process of creating a bitcoin section on Sportsbook Review.com. BTC Sports Bet has been added to the SBR Sportsbook Blacklist at the mark of F.
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/btcsportsbet-bitcoin-sportsbook-yet-comment-stealing-6-700-6087/

3633  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books on: March 18, 2014, 05:28:55 AM
BTCsportsmatch and BTCsportsbet are thieves.

They stole 8btc from me which was well documented on SBR and elsewhere.

Maybe Raiders can contact them on my behalf since they wouldnt reply to anyone else.   Cheesy
  Grin I think their lips are sealed. I'll go find your case on SBR and post it. Your case played a major role in the ratings.
3634  Economy / Gambling / Re: WARNING - SBObitcoin.com appears to be closed - accounts suspended. on: March 18, 2014, 04:47:24 AM
Gogo- Being anonymous has nothing to do with a bitcoin book. The two oldest books in Anonibet and BTCSportmatch remain anonymous.
3635  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books on: March 18, 2014, 04:27:42 AM
Books- I don't want to take this thread too far off course but the NCAA tournament is right around the corner and the following may be of interest to players:

1. Are you taking bets on the individual games? sides, totals, props?
2. What are the limits?
3. Will you have live betting?



Hi Peeps Place,

1. We are taking bets on almost every game, including sides, totals, and props. In fact, we're looking at adding some pretty exciting new props. Our NBA "race to 20 points" markets have been extremely popular.

2. Our NCAA limits will be up to 13.5 BTC.

3. Yes - of course! It doesn't get any more exciting than live betting.

Thanks for your continued excellent work here.

Cheers,
Cloudbet
Cloudbet, thanks for checking in. 13.5 BTC limit is nice.
3636  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books on: March 17, 2014, 11:31:34 PM
Good stuff KGambler. Thanks
3637  Economy / Gambling / Re: Ratings for all the bitcoin sports books on: March 17, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
Here's the email that SBOBitcoin sent to me.

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We would like to inform you on the update regarding the change of rate for all members.

With your existing account,if you will not play and you want to withdraw, you can do so anytime you want.  We will still use the 6000 rate as the rate for the first time you joined us. But your account now can only be used till Sunday, March 9, 2014. After that, we will suspend the ID but we guarantee you can still withdraw from that ID use 6000 rate. From now on we use the new rate is 4000 to all members. If you want to play, we can transfer your balance to the new account using 4000 rate.  

We highly appreciate a response from you as soon as possible regarding this matter.

Best regards,
SBO Bitcoin


I then went to live chat and took my money out. They sent it in bitcoins.
3638  Economy / Gambling / Re: WARNING - SBObitcoin.com appears to be closed - accounts suspended. on: March 17, 2014, 09:27:37 PM
gogo- Why don't you just go to live chat and ask them if your Pinnacle account was closed? It obviously wasn't funded. They will give you a new account. This may have been done when the exchange rate was changed.

You're already aware that it was a currency exchange, as I was the first to report this, and that my issue is resolved.
You read this in the other thread 10 minutes ago.

"Quote from: Peeps Place on Today at 11:54:19 AM
Gogo- If you really had accounts with these books, as you have said, then you would have known this."

Raiders - You are the biggest fraud and the most loathsome and hated poster on all the sportsbetting forums, and this is an example:

"If you really had accounts with these books, as you have said, then you would have known this."

You didn't know yourself  or you would have stated it when I first raised the issue.

You just found out when Melody came back online. This is evident to anyone reading this thread.

Not only that, but you are the one with no account at the book:

"All accounts were shut down and people were given new accounts. You either had the opportunity to withdraw or transfer the money to the new account."

Wrong.  I reported above my acquaintance's experience - I can now state that mine was identical to my acquaintance's - they did a currency amount change - the account number and password is unchanged - there is no new account."

Just stop already. You've never played there. I told you my experience not one of an acquaintance.
3639  Economy / Gambling / Re: WARNING - SBObitcoin.com appears to be closed - accounts suspended. on: March 17, 2014, 08:20:37 PM
gogo- Why don't you just go to live chat and ask them if your Pinnacle account was closed? It obviously wasn't funded. They will give you a new account. This may have been done when the exchange rate was changed.
3640  Economy / Gambling / Re: WARNING - SBObitcoin.com appears to be closed - accounts suspended. on: March 17, 2014, 08:18:12 PM
Gogo said that SBOBitcoin was a scam a few months ago. As another poster pointed out, you don't deposit in to scam books so Gogo never played there.

With my account SBOBitcoin told me that they were changing the exchange rate. They asked me if I wanted to withdraw my money or have a new account with the rate changed. It may have been the same account number with a change in Hong Kong dollars but I don't remember since I took a withdrawal. They gave me all my money including the 10% bonus even though I hadn't met the 3x roll.

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