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3621  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Plan: We’ll pay to import formerly deported illegals with mental illnesses on: September 27, 2015, 05:32:03 PM
The Americans never fail to amuse me with their retarded ideas. The next step will be to import all the illegals, with a low IQ. Let's put the cutoff at 95 or 100, and more than 99% of the Mexicans will qualify. BTW... I fail to understand the benefits of importing mentally challenged people. Who will be responsible if they commit mass-shootings or other crimes?


Proof the liberals would need for more gun control... "Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs..." is their mantra.


3622  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 14 year old Muslim teen gets legally detained in Texas for homemade clock II on: September 27, 2015, 05:24:16 PM



Was planning to post this in:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1189791.0
But it has been locked down.

So... Let's move on:



Musings Of An Average Joe: The Threat Of Non-Radical Islam - Should We Actually Listen To Bill Maher?






The case of “Ahmed’s clock,” the recent comments by Dr. Ben Carson regarding a Muslim in the White House, and the ongoing debate about the Syrian refugee crisis has brought the discussion on Islam back to the forefront of American politics. The left continues to have this incessant desire to coddle and defend anyone they perceive to be the underdog or member of any allegedly oppressed minority group. In regard to Muslims, however, this ardent defense is completely at odds with liberal doctrine, and no one on the left except Bill Maher appears to be aware of this.

We have come to the point where the debate over Islam has resulted in people taking one of two extreme opposite positions. You’re either a bloodthirsty terrorist, willing to kill infidels at the drop of a hat in the name of Allah or, you are simply a wonderful, tolerant, peace-loving human being. In this debate, almost no one acknowledges that there is a middle ground. But there is a huge middle ground, and those that inhabit it should give progressive liberals, the champions of tolerance, equality, women’s rights and gay rights, much cause for concern.

Bill Maher seems to understand something that virtually none of his peers on the left understand. While the debate remains exclusively about “radical Islam,” ironically enough, you’ll often find that the most “moderate”, tolerant Muslims fit the exact description of the left’s perception of the stereotypical racist, sexist, homophobic, religious fanatic right-wing conservative that they profess to fear and loathe.

As Maher pointed out in a discussion earlier this year about radical Islam, “I’m a liberal in this debate. I’m for free speech. To be a liberal, you have to stand up for liberal principles. It’s not my fault that the part of the world that is most against liberal principles is the Muslim part of the world.”


http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/09/27/musings-average-joe-threat-non-radical-islam-should-we-actually-listen-bill-maher



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The reason why it is so obvious the liberal movement is a farce. Worse, the liberal movement has become exactly what they used to despise. Worser: they are in denial about it. Worserer: they will attack you for pointing this to them...

Worsererer: I hate to like maher but, in this case  Smiley


3623  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 87 dead after crane collapses at world’s holiest mosque in Mecca on: September 27, 2015, 05:01:22 PM



Saudis Bulldoze Dead Hajj Pilgrims Like Garbage


On Thursday 769 Muslims were killed in a stampede during the Hajj in Saudi Arabia.

Saudi officials blamed pilgrims for not following the rules for the deadly stampede. Others blamed the convoy of the son of the Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud for the tragedy.

About two million Muslims from 180 countries arrived in Saudi Arabia this year for the annual pilgrimage.

The Saudis bulldozed the bodies after the deadly stampede.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/saudis-bulldoze-dead-hajj-pilgrims-like-garbage/


3624  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: September 27, 2015, 02:20:34 PM
Didn´t The New York Times first break that email story? And isn´t that one big boiler room for the Clintons?

Maybe the play was supposed to be about making some kind of underdog out of her. You know, sympathy and all that. Only she´s too much of a lowlife to even fit that bill so it quickly backfired.


She is simply not a good candidate. She is a menace to 0bama. The clintons and the 0bamas hate each other. I've read 0bama wants biden to run and have a black VP. He wants biden to do 4 years. That's it. Then the black VP will be seen as 0bama 2.0.

I've heard the same thing, except with Elizabeth Warren as his VP. Well, maybe that works. If Elizabeth Warren can be Native American, then I guess she can be African American as well. Fauxcahoantas Fauxbama.


... Or Rachel Dolezal?



3625  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nasa Major Announcement Regarding Mars On the 28th: What Will It be? on: September 27, 2015, 02:12:26 PM



If we have a live feed from the Rose Garden, you'll know 0bama would want to take credit for everything happening on Mars, for the history book. Forever. If it is a ustream feed from a VGA webcam then it would be about how they fixed their rover remotely, or something as "lame", to quote someone on this thread...

 Smiley

3626  Other / Meta / Re: Should we rename this section Wilikon and Society? on: September 27, 2015, 12:45:52 AM
I think so, considering it has become mostly him talking to and about himself. What do you think?





YES. Amazing idea!

But I never talk about myself.

When you politely asked, me and someone else, to bump up your thread instead of mine or his, regarding ahmed the clock hoax bomb inventor, I did and told you it did not matter who's thread was up (as long as the message about him being a fraudster was getting out)

Today was a calm Saturday. I was typing away, updating my threads. Believe it or not, I was already laughing seeing so many Wilikons. Went out and got myself a Yellow Tail Merlot. Time to fire up PopCornTime.io and catch up on all those TV shows I missed, like Mr Robot.

But do not take this tread stuff too seriously though. People have their mind set and that's the way it is. We all love bitcoin and some... even free speech.

If I see some new news regarding our adorable clockmaker I'll push it to your thread.



 Smiley










3627  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved! on: September 27, 2015, 12:22:07 AM



Vatican Says Every Nation’s Right Of Sovereignty Has To ‘Bend’ To Meet The Dignity Of Illegal Aliens




The Vatican



Part of the reason that the media is having such a huge love affair with the Pope as he visits America is that they all believe that we’ll become much more leftist if we just listen to his left-wing rhetoric.

And while some are doubting the more subtle references the Pope has been making towards supporting unfortunate immigrants, the Vatican has made it clear what he means to the New York Times:

The Vatican is careful to recognize a legitimate diversity of opinion on the issue of illegal immigration, advocating the rights of migrants to seek a better life and of sovereign states to regulate their borders. But in his speeches so far this week, Francis has clearly focused his attention on the migrants who see him as their champion.

“When you have these two rights in conflict, which one has to bend?” said Greg Burke, the senior adviser for communications at the Vatican. “The Gospel answers that it has to bend in favor of human dignity.”


http://therightscoop.com/vatican-says-every-nations-right-of-sovereignty-has-to-bend-to-meet-the-dignity-of-illegal-immigrants/



3628  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: September 27, 2015, 12:02:43 AM
Didn´t The New York Times first break that email story? And isn´t that one big boiler room for the Clintons?

Maybe the play was supposed to be about making some kind of underdog out of her. You know, sympathy and all that. Only she´s too much of a lowlife to even fit that bill so it quickly backfired.


She is simply not a good candidate. She is a menace to 0bama. The clintons and the 0bamas hate each other. I've read 0bama wants biden to run and have a black VP. He wants biden to do 4 years. That's it. Then the black VP will be seen as 0bama 2.0.

Almost the same trick putin pulled with dmitry medvedev...

But then Trump happened... Bernie happened.




Well, The Donald could do worse than pick this guy as VP if it gets that far.

Definitely presidential material. And funny guy, "they should have said something" hahahahahaha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTdtL-hirRg




Carson: White House wanted me to apologize for 'offending' Obama

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/15/carson-wh-says-his-prayer-breakfast-speech-offended-obama-asked-for-apology/


3629  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: September 26, 2015, 11:49:21 PM


[...]
Obama and Clinton were both at Reagan National Airport on their way to Iowa for a [2007] debate, and the candidates met on the tarmac for what became a brief but heated conversation. Then-Obama personal aide Reggie Love witnessed the event and describes it in his new memoir:

[Obama] very respectfully told her the apology was kind, but largely meaningless, given the emails it was rumored her camp had been sending out labeling him as a Muslim. Before he could finish his sentence, she exploded on Obama. In a matter of seconds, she went from composed to furious. It had not been Obama’s intention to upset her, but he wasn’t going to play the fool either.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/26/washington-post-confirms-hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/

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Pure hatred.


3630  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: September 26, 2015, 11:39:59 PM
Yes, I think she is trustworthy.


BOMBSHELL: ‘WASHINGTON POST’ CONFIRMS HILLARY CLINTON STARTED THE BIRTHER MOVEMENT





New analysis from the Washington Post removes any doubt that the anti-Obama Birther movement was started in 2007 and 2008 by Hillary Clinton, her campaign, and her Democrat supporters.

As Breitbart News reported earlier this month, other left-wing media outlets, like Politico and the Guardian, had  already traced the Birther movement back to Democrats and Ms. Clinton. Using his wayback machine on Wednesday, the Post’s David Weigel took an in-depth look at the origins of the false rumors that President Obama is a practicing Muslim who was not born in a America. Weigel’s reporting contains the final pieces of a very disturbing puzzle.

What Weigel found and re-reported was astounding, details many of us had forgotten or never heard of, including a 2007 bombshell memo from the Clinton campaign’s chief strategist.

What the left-wing Weigel left out of his reporting was even more astounding, including a documented confrontation between Clinton and Obama over the Birther issue, and video of Hillary herself stoking doubt about Obama’s Christian faith.

Because the Washington Post’s primary job  is to protect Democrats, Weigel’s headline and conclusion are an objective lie. Despite the fact that what he uncovered (and chose to not cover) points directly to Ms. Clinton and her campaign, Weigel concludes she had nothing to do with the Birther movement.

Naturally, Weigel’s own facts support the exact opposite conclusion.

His research, however, is all that matters.

 

Defcon 4: Mark Penn’s March 2007 Strategy Memo

Everything began in March of 2007 when Hillary’s chief strategist Mark Penn wrote a now-infamous campaign memo laying out his overall plan to win the election.

Weigel sums up the Birther elements of Penn’s memo as a nothingburger; indeed, according to Weigel, the memo actually proves that the Clinton campaign wanted nothing to do with Birtherism: “But Penn wrote that as a warning, not a strategy,” Weigel writes.

While most of Weigel’s lies in his defense of Clinton are of omission and deflection, the wrist-flicking of Penn’s memo is pure audacity.

Because this is important, I’m not asking anyone to believe my interpretation of the memo. You can read the memo for yourself here. Below are two mainstream media sources. [emphasis added] As you’ll see, the idea that the memo was a warning against “othering” Obama is preposterous:

The Atlantic:

[Penn] wrote, “I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values.” Penn proposed targeting Obama’s “lack of American roots.”

Bloomberg

The idea of going after Obama’s otherness dates back to the last presidential election—and to Democrats. … Hillary Clinton’s chief strategist, Mark Penn, recognized this potential vulnerability in Obama and sought to exploit it. … Penn wrote: … “[H]is roots to basic American values and culture are at best limited. I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and his values.”

Penn also suggested how the campaign might take advantage of this. “Every speech should contain the line that you were born in the middle of America to the middle class in the middle of the last century,” he advised Clinton. “And talk about the basic bargain as about [sic] the deeply American values you grew up with, learned as a child, and that drive you today.” He went on: “Let’s explicitly own ‘American’ in our programs, the speeches and the values. He doesn’t … Let’s add flag symbols to the backgrounds [of campaign events].”

Bloomberg adds: “Penn was not a birther.”

His memo didn’t raise the issue of Obama’s citizenship. Furthermore, he was acutely aware of the political danger that a Democrat would court by going after Obama in this way, even subliminally: “We are never going to say anything about his background,” he wrote.

That is what the memo said. The truth, though, is that the attacks on Obama’s background would come the following year, and those attacks would not only come from Hillary’s supporters but directly from her own campaign and her own mouth during a nationally televised “60 Minutes” interview.

In March of 2007, the campaign could afford to attack Obama’s otherness “subliminally.”

By the following year, as the primary losses mounted, the gloves came completely off.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/09/26/washington-post-confirms-hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/


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Now. Do you understand why the 0bamas and the clintons' are pure enemies?

The whole article is amazing.


3631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: September 26, 2015, 11:27:50 PM
all religions teach goodness. and Islam is one of the religion.

IMO, all the religions are evil. Religions have killed hundreds of millions of people in the past, and they are still killing millions of people every year. All the major religions (Islam, Catholicism, Protestantism, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism.etc) have indulged in brainwashing of their followers, to instigate wars and genocides. Without these religions, the world would be a much better place to live.
This is not necessarily true.  Even if you were correct in ascribing the evil to "religions," in the absence of "religions" other, equally bad sources of evil may naturally arise. 

For example, the religion of communism certainly has outdone religion per se in violence, wars and genocide.  And today, so-called "Atheists" are 80% big government, socialistically inclined people.  Evidence is that a basic human need for some kind of belief in a Big Godly Thing may, in the absence of religion, simply be fulfilled by government, some other belief set, or whatever.

Global Warming...

3632  Other / Politics & Society / Plan: We’ll pay to import formerly deported illegals with mental illnesses on: September 26, 2015, 11:25:35 PM



Hundreds of deported immigrants with mental disabilities may return to US


Hundreds of immigrants with mental disabilities who were deported from the U.S. after representing themselves in court may be allowed to return to the country under a settlement approved by a judge Friday.

Federal Judge Dolly M. Gee’s ruling will let immigrants with serious mental disabilities request to have their cases reopened in hopes of returning to the U.S. The ruling covers immigrants deported from California, Arizona and Washington between Nov. 21, 2011 and Jan. 27 this year.

“This is really a historic settlement,” said Carmen Iguina, staff attorney for the ACLU of Southern California, one of the groups that filed the 2010 lawsuit that led to the settlement.

[...]
Under the agreement, the federal government said it will help those with reopened cases return to the U.S. and pay for some transportation costs.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/26/hundreds-deported-immigrants-with-mental-disabilities-may-return-to-us/




3633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: September 26, 2015, 11:13:36 PM



Witless for the Prosecution: New York DA Forces Staff to Forgo Second Amendment Rights


Madeline Singas, Acting District Attorney for Nassau County, New York, is a hypocrite. Worse, she is willing to gamble with the lives and safety of her staff and their families for her own perceived political benefit. While claiming “a commitment to justice, compassion, and integrity” and boasting about keeping “more vulnerable people safe,” she enforces a policy of mandatory disarmament amongst the attorneys who put their own safety on the line to administer justice in her jurisdiction. On Monday, Prof. Eugene Volokh broke the story that the Nassau County District Attorney’s Office bars prosecutors from having handguns, even at home.

Prosecutors, considered the top law enforcement officials of their jurisdictions, take an oath to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. They are invested with great public trust, making decisions that profoundly affect the life, liberty, and property of the residents of their jurisdictions, decisions that can increase or decrease the public’s respect for the justice system and the rule of law. The system can only work if they take that oath seriously.


https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150925/witless-for-the-prosecution-new-york-da-forces-staff-to-forgo-second-amendment-rights


3634  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: September 26, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
Didn´t The New York Times first break that email story? And isn´t that one big boiler room for the Clintons?

Maybe the play was supposed to be about making some kind of underdog out of her. You know, sympathy and all that. Only she´s too much of a lowlife to even fit that bill so it quickly backfired.


She is simply not a good candidate. She is a menace to 0bama. The clintons and the 0bamas hate each other. I've read 0bama wants biden to run and have a black VP. He wants biden to do 4 years. That's it. Then the black VP will be seen as 0bama 2.0.

Almost the same trick putin pulled with dmitry medvedev...

But then Trump happened... Bernie happened.


3635  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: September 26, 2015, 10:46:09 PM



Bill Clinton Blames G.O.P. and Press for Wife’s Email Woes


Former President Bill Clinton blamed Republicans who hope to undercut his wife’s presidential chances and a voracious political news media uninterested in substance for the furor surrounding Hillary Rodham Clinton’s use of a private email account and server while she was secretary of state.

“I have never seen so much expended on so little,” Mr. Clinton said in a taped interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria that will be shown on Sunday. The network released excerpts on Saturday afternoon.

“She said she was sorry that her personal email caused all this confusion. And she’d like to give the election back to the American people,” Mr. Clinton said. “I think it will be all right. But it’s obvious what happened.”

Mr. Clinton likened the current inquiries into Mrs. Clinton’s emails to scandals as far back as the Whitewater land deal that plagued his 1992 campaign and the early years of his administration.

“This is just something that has been a regular feature of all of our presidential campaigns, except in 2008 for unique reasons,” Mr. Clinton said, without elaborating on why he believed President Obama did not face similar Republican-led efforts to derail his candidacy.

“It always happens,” he added. “We’re seeing history repeat itself.”

“The other party doesn’t want to run against her. And if they do, they’d like her as mangled up as possible,” Mr. Clinton said. “And they know that if they leak things and say things, that that is catnip to the people who get bored talking about what’s your position on student loan relief or dealing with the shortage of mental health care, or what to do with the epidemic of prescription drugs and heroin out in America.”

Mr. Clinton also faulted the political press corps, which he said was determined to see a competitive contest. At the beginning of the year, he noted, Mrs. Clinton “was the most admired person in public life.”

“What happened?” he added. “The presidential campaign happened. And the nature of the coverage shifted from issue-based to political.”

“You can’t complain,” he added. “This is not – this is a contact sport. They’re not giving the job away. And people who want a race wanted her to drop some, and the people in the other party desperately wanted it because she’s already put out more positions on more issues and said how she would pay for it than, I think, than all the others combined, based on the two – the Republicans, based on the two debates I saw.”

Mr. Clinton, who has kept a relatively low profile in his wife’s presidential campaign, taped the interview on Thursday in New York in advance of the United Nations General Assembly and the annual Clinton Global Initiative conference.

On Friday, newly discovered emails raised new questions about whether Mrs. Clinton had accurately described when she began using the personal account that she relied on for the rest of her time in the State Department. (On Sunday, in an interview with NBC News’s “Meet the Press,” Mrs. Clinton will most likely face more questions on the matter.)

Despite how the email issue has overshadowed her presidential campaign, Mrs. Clinton, who stressed that she broke no rules or laws, occasionally made light of the controversy. Mr. Clinton had been among those who initially believed Mrs. Clinton did not need to apologize for using private email, a practice that had been allowed at the time and which he said her political rivals were trying to scandalize.

But Mrs. Clinton has since apologized, and she has repeatedly said that she would be as transparent as possible in releasing her emails to the State Department.

Mrs. Clinton’s more contrite approach comes as her favorability and trustworthiness ratings in some polls have fallen in recent months and as Senator Bernie Sanders, her leading opponent for the Democratic nomination, has surged ahead in some polls in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Mr. Clinton pushed back when Mr. Zakaria asked if the questions about Mrs. Clinton’s emails were a “Republican plot.”

“No, I’m not going there, because that’s what the – it’s not a – a plot makes it sound like it’s a secret,” he said. ”I think that – that there are lots of people who wanted there to be a race for different reasons. And they thought the only way they could make it a race was a full-scale frontal assault on her. And so this email thing became the biggest story in the world.”


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/26/bill-clinton-blames-g-o-p-news-media-for-wifes-email-woes/


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Why can't he blame the 0bama's admin.? They have the power to turn the drip drip tap off...



3636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: September 26, 2015, 10:40:46 PM
Yes, I think she is trustworthy.


SHE LIED! State Dept. Finds Discarded Benghazi Emails on HIllary's Home Server


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ-FSDueBMs


The State Department found emails related to Benghazi and Libya that had not been previously turned over by State from the private server used exclusively by former secretary Hillary Clinton during her four-year tenure.

The emails were found after State digitized the printed copies of emails Clinton provided and performed a new search.

Separately, it was reported Friday that previously undisclosed emails between then-Gen. David Petraeus and Clinton from around January 2009 were recently found by the Pentagon and turned over to State. Several of the emails were sent by and received from the private clintonemail.com domain that Clinton has said she did not use for State-related business before March 2009.

CBS News and AP reported:

“The State Department’s record of Clinton emails begins on March 18, 2009 — almost two months after she entered office. Before then, Clinton has said she used an old AT&T Blackberry email account, the contents of which she no longer can access.

“The Petraeus emails, first discovered by the Defense Department and then passed to the State Department’s inspector general, challenge that claim. They start on Jan. 10, 2009, with Clinton using the older email account. But by Jan. 28 — a week after her swearing in — she switched to using the private email address on a server based out of her home in Chappaqua, New York, that she would rely on for the rest of her tenure. There are less than 10 emails back and forth in total, officials said, and the chain ends on Feb. 1.”

In August Hillary signed an official document saying she had handed over all work related emails.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/she-lied-state-dept-finds-discarded-benghazi-emails-on-hillarys-home-server/


3637  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: September 26, 2015, 10:33:09 PM
Thousands of fish dead? How can they report so casually, don´t they realize that many of those poor fishes were baby fishes with a whole life ahead of them and suddenly torn away from it all. Rest in peace.


Sushimaggedon...  Cry

3638  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved! on: September 26, 2015, 10:29:59 PM



Finns Attack “Refugee” Bus with Rocks and Fireworks – Refugees Turn Back to Sweden


Protesters in Finland hurled fireworks, stones and beer bottles at a refugee bus bringing migrants to a center.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIeZTuUQ9C0


3639  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nasa Major Announcement Regarding Mars On the 28th: What Will It be? on: September 26, 2015, 10:26:19 PM
I bet 1 month of signature campaign that will be something irrelevant that people will forgot in 3 days. Like some rock that has 1% more of some rock stuff than others and it doesn't matter.

Unless they are going to surrender to martians, I doubt they would announce an announcemente of some important stuff, they would just publish it


Vote #4 then...

 Smiley


3640  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fed's Yellen gets medical attention after struggling with speech on: September 26, 2015, 10:25:03 PM
""What I've learned at the Federal Reserve is a new language which is called "Fed-speak". You soon learn to mumble with great incoherence.""

— Alan Greenspan

Great performer. Never missed a beat that I remember.  Which is why there was no need for that quote to continue

...mumble with great incoherence but with unwavering continuity and consciousness.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvE7mL0syYE




Good point by the CNBC reporter about the briefcase. It was early 2001, Baby Bush was starting out as Lame duck, bubbles seemed to be bursting and all the rage in the market was about when will the FED lower rates next. Back then they even made rate decisions between regularly scheduled meetings. Bad economic news was good for the market or at least that was the spin. And reporters tried to somehow divine Mr. Greenspan´s intentions from his leather briefcase. How much paper it seemed to contain I guess. Those were the times.


The briefcase was the shiny object...




Maybe. I seem to remember another one. A brown, worn one.


So many ways I could tell you what that brown, worn one was... But I am an adult now.


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