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3621  Other / Off-topic / Re: Which other emerging technologies are you guys following? on: April 25, 2019, 02:40:18 AM
self-driving cars.

i'm not sure if elon musk is realistic with his timeline (driverless taxi fleet by next year). given the two fatalities by driverless car collisions last year, i think we're still a ways off from his dreams. maybe in a decade?

i sure as hell won't be getting in an uber with no driver anytime soon. Cheesy
I think self driving cars can't work well in such a world that we are living in today. This technology is to advanced for this period and it doesn't fit our streets at least not in most of the countries. Maybe in the future, when everyone will use electric cars and the streets will be safer but right now I wouldn't get into such a car even if you pay me.

Interestingly if humans were forbidden from driving, you could get rid of traffic lights completely and reduce traffic delays A LOT.
Perhaps such a day will come when humans won't be allowed to drive on public roads...

Driver-less cars are almost here, of course Uber doesn't count, but there are far more serious efforts. Still that Uber fatality could have probably occurred to a human driver given the circumstances. No, there are far more serious efforts by Google (or Alphabet) and Tesla, and i think Volvo and others too.

There is a problem of interaction of AI and human pedestrians, but even that is being improved. Humans that follow the rules are not the problem, but its because humans can ignore the rules bad things happen. The AI needs to learn defensive driving as well as minimizing damage in unforeseen events. For the couple of unfortunate Uber deaths you can also watch a ton of youtube videos of Tesla saving their drivers from nearly impossible to avoid by a human driver crash situation. Machines react faster and sense better, don't get tired (or drunk) etc.

Give it more time and fatalities by car accidents are going to dwindle, ironically because of taking the humans away from the wheel (or what i think, no wheel/pedals, like the original Waymo concept).

And not too long later, the planes will do the same thing. Its taking longer, but we will see. More than pilots and drivers, there might be an operator at most, or even a single operator for various vehicles from a remote facility. No one will be able to hijack a plane again because there won't be any way to change its course internally, just like UAVs are remote controlled and AI assisted. Suicidal pilot/copilot in a commercial aircraft? Never again.

This is also happening to ships, those giant ships moving containers or tanker ships are going to drive themselves soon.

So yeah, count self-driving self-piloting among the technologies i'm following. AI is deeply related to it.
3622  Economy / Economics / Re: What currency shall human use when colonizing Mars on: April 24, 2019, 11:56:47 PM
The first black hole picture reminds me Elon Musk's quote
Quote
   Mars should really have great bars.
It made me wonder what currency shall we use in that bar on Mars. Will it be fiat or cryptocurrency? Will there be a heated fight whether the bar tender shall accept USD or RMB? Is there an ATM for converting AUD to BTC?

Logically its own planetary coin, hopefully inspired by Bitcoin. I don't know if they will be fool enough to make some fiat, but whatever they do, it probably has to be their own. Because its impractical to move coins between the planets. People here complain for 10mins transactions, but communications to Mars can nearly lag an hour, that is, 24 minutes one way, 24 minutes to receive the answer (ie. 48min ping).


Mars Rover Curiosity touchdown – and you think you’ve got latency issues!


Yes, 100 years into the future sounds reasonable, or by the time the last bitcoin gets minted.

The first humans on mars won't be "settlers", but more like temporary bases not unlike those in Antartica, completely depending from home. In fact i posted elsewhere that i think it makes more sense to build an orbital station, and move it to the Mars orbit first, to start the ground work remotely (but not all the way back to Earth) before the first humans can arrive on ground. Its still cheaper and easier to move to the Mars orbit than landing. This station should have its own artificial gravity, perhaps matching that of Mars (or something between mars and earth) to help acclimate humans while they work from there to control the probes on the ground and build the future habitats.
3623  Economy / Economics / Re: Goldexit on: April 24, 2019, 11:40:13 PM
The irony here is that Venezuela repatriated gold during Chávez (not all as you might guess), but that gold that cost a fortune to move back from foreign banks, and was kept at great expense in our national bank, is simply being sold by Maduro. They already sold a lot to the Russians. He of course has no authorization from the legislative branch, but de-facto power means they can do whatever they want and that is that.

If anything, the UK has at least kept some of the gold safe from the usurper thief. Once things normalize and the usurper is gone, that might be our last gold reserve left.

It is a double edge sword. You bring it back to your country thinking it would be "safer" but then you have to fear your corrupt politicians wont take it for themselves...

Oh well, Romania had a Ceaucescu, but we still have a Maduro. You would be surprised to know how many Venezuelans would wish for a similar ending to socialism...
3624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Summer Cooling Setup - small mining farm with 11 Asics - need help on: April 24, 2019, 10:29:30 PM
Hi Artemis,

thanks for your post.

Yeah - I underestimated the cooling problem with the upcoming summer - my first one with mining. Do you have a recommendation for a matching extractor? How much of them i will need?

You need to move that air. Don't worry too much about the ambient temperature, i know units working in tropical climate at 40°C just fine.
You have to increase the volume of air you are moving. If your miners are inside a room or warehouse, you need to move the air that goes in and out of that place. If you also put them inside a container, the container has to move that same amount as well.

You can do as NotFuzzyWarm says and guestimate 250CFM per unit. I'm not really sure about the latest models like the T15, but something like 3000CFM would do. Find something that can move that, such as a one giant fan, or two 1500CFM ones, 4 750CFM ones, etc. MOVE THAT AIR OUT!



If you have seen mining containers you will notice they basically replace the entire wall on the long side so it can flow lots of air, that works great outdoors, but if the container is inside a building, you must make sure that building is letting move that amount of air as well.



Yes i think there are inline fans strong enough, but the smaller the fans the noiser. Also you are fighting the duct itself, you have to measure the cfm in and out of the ducts. For the time being you could try replacing your inline fan with something stronger...

MV 250 provides 910m3/h = 535 cf/m, this is too weak. You can replace it with the MV EC 250 but this only gives you  971 CF/M, so you'd need at least two more ducts as a minimum. (or larger diameter ducts, which move more air).
3625  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: problem Configuration Dragonmint t1 on: April 24, 2019, 04:27:17 PM
Perhaps try to investigate by reading the main T1 thread a little before making wild speculations...

a. Bitmain does not 'make' chips and certainly do not sell them to 3rd parties. BM contracted TSMC to manufacture their chips.
b. The T1 chips were designed for Halong by Innosilicon and made by TSMC. Considering that very shortly after the release of the T1, Inno released their own version (the T2) that uses the same chips it all rather smacks of the kerfuffle in 2014 regarding the 28nm A1 chip that Inno designed for Bitmine.ch
c. As Sidehack as mentioned a while back, yes he is in talks with Inno about the chips.

Of course when i say BM i wasn't implying they manufacture them themselves, and even if they did, it wouldn't change anything. I don't see the point of arguing that. You could also say BM's chips were designed by the guy that left for MicroBT, that Bitmain does nothing but buys everything, but that's beyond the point of this topic.

All i wanted to know is whose chips Halong used, and its Innosillicon's chips, thanks for the answer.
3626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Summer Cooling Setup - small mining farm with 11 Asics - need help on: April 24, 2019, 04:10:10 PM
Dear community,

Maybe someone of you has an idea what I can do better for the "summer setup" of my small mining farm.

I run the following devices:

7x Antminer T15 - 1541 W each
1x Antminer DR5 - 1800 W
2x Whatsminer D1 - each 2200 W
1x Dayun Zig Z1 + - 1200 W

Total 18,187 watts - plus Switch & Co.

corresponds to
about 19,000 joules
Heat load: 64600 BTU / h
Current consumption: 82.6 amperes

In the winter the miners were standing on top of a storage container. Laterally, a fan Trotec TTV 4500 S has provided airflow. On the back wall of the warehouse were two small tube fans embedded in the wall, which provided some fresh air.

With increasing outside temperatures, the temperature in the hall has also increased dramatically - most recently to 45 degrees. The temperatures of the miners have also increased, PCB partly up to 80 degrees, chips partly up to 95 degrees. That's why I rebuilt as follows:

- Placing the miners in a storage container (about 2 meters wide, 1.80 meters deep, 2 meters high). This center vertically divided with screen printing plate in cold zone behind, warm zone forward. Sawed cutouts for all miners, so that the exhaust air side fits exactly, with sealing tape

- For fresh air down a Helios MV 250 multivent tube fan, with air filter Helios LF 250 and silencer
- For exhaust air above a Helios MV 250 multivent tube fan, with air filter Helios LF 250 and silencer
- after turning on all miners they ran about 10 minutes. Then I closed the roll-up door of the storage container - about 5 minutes later, 50% of all miners went into heat protection mode with 0 T / h power

Now I'm not sure what needs to be changed. Too little fresh air supply? Too little capacity for the exhaust air? Or both? Or too little space in the container? As additional options, I could also leave the container open at the front, and e.g. let the Trotec fan blow into the container, if that brings something.

Maybe you have a good tip? 1000 thanks for your help!

Vinncent

I don't think you are moving enough air to put them inside the container. Your duct looks insufficient for a single unit let alone 11...

It would be nice if you measured the cfm a single unit wants while outside the container, that would give you a rough idea.

You don't have to worry about the ambient temperature too much, as long as you can take that hot air out. Your warehouse is like a box, if you don't move that air the hot air will remain and quickly heat the place (great for winter warming, not so much in summer lol).

So visualize your warehouse as a box, and think a way to move the required number of cfm in and out. If you put your miners inside another box (container), the same applies.

Hot air likes to go up, big extractors above help. And i really mean BIG extractors. But that would pull air from the outside, you must find a way to let that air in, assisted or not...

I think you simply underestimated the amount of CFM each unit needs.
3627  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: problem Configuration Dragonmint t1 on: April 24, 2019, 03:48:26 PM
Not surprisingly, following their 'take the money and run' biz plan Halong went out of business at the end of last year and of course ALL of the folks who bought their miners are screwed. Frankly I'm surprised their website is still alive. The only non-scammy and good thing that Halong did was actually deliver the miners before disappearing.

So it wasn't that bad eh? Whose chips did they use? Bitmain's? Innosillicon's? Has anyone de-soldered and inspected them? GekkoScience planning something with those? Smiley



So, I guess the only solution to his problem is to flash the miner through SD card with Braiin OS

@maxomid If ever you need the Braiin OS you can find them from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036844.0.

At this moment T1 users are observing 14TH/s rate while using Braiins OS, this could be because that's the true hashrate or a Braiins OS miscalculation, they are investigating...
3628  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Death Penalty to ICO Scammers! Are you favor it? on: April 24, 2019, 02:06:06 PM
As we all know still exit scam ICO's are victimizing investors including me in my frustration I wish these people be killed or if busted they must sentenced to death Penalty are you favor of it.

No this is not different to fiat scammers or con artists. Punishment yes, but not the death penalty. Death penalty should be strictly used for really serious offenses, such as murder and terrorism (albeit the chinese would probably do it, as they do in theory to their corrupt officials).

Also what would you do when the (de-facto) government of a nation is the one responsible for the ICO Scam? Do you have any idea how much was collected and "lost" by the Petro ICO scam? Can you even take them to the Hague tribunal for this?
3629  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: USDT has successfully landed in TRON public chain, and the 20 million incentive on: April 24, 2019, 01:56:43 PM
I read an article like a few months ago where TRON was said to be free to use (i.e. that there are no fees). If that's actually the case, then their USDT tokens can be transferred natively without having TRON in your wallet.

Can anyone clarify this? Where or how can we test using Tether on the Tron blockchain, and is it true you can use it without paying fees? That would prone to blockchain spam, i'd rather fees be paid with USDT itself...

As far as i know, you need satoshis to use it on the Bitcoin blockchain, and gas on the Ethereum blockchain. Why would Tron let it move for free?
3630  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain introduces the Antminer S17 Pro, Antminer S17, and the Antminer T17 on: April 24, 2019, 12:34:45 PM
bitmain support released these vids for the s17/pro
dissemble AWP9 psu https://youtu.be/TWngE5712iE
setup https://youtu.be/1kIvVrvyzYw
dissemble control board  https://youtu.be/KZb96iTfcrQ

Those videos all come from a youtube channel called "Bitmain Support":



How to set up a new Antminer S17/S17Pro




How to disassemble the APW9 PSU from your Antminer S17/S17 Pro?




How to disassemble Antminer S17/S17Pro control board
3631  Other / Off-topic / Re: World War III on: April 24, 2019, 02:27:33 AM
No it won't happen, there could be wars from a coalition against a country, but very unlikely two coalitions will openly fight each other anymore.

Anything involving nukes is suicidal, especially if you pretend to confront one of the world powers with the largest arsenals: (USA, Russia, China?).
In conventional warfare you can barely hope to go against a small contender that doesn't get the support of the big ones.
3632  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is urgent. Argentina is printing free money too on: April 23, 2019, 11:23:00 PM
Printing new money can help in the short run, but in the long run, this will inevitably lead to a depreciation of money and inflation. Bitcoin can act as a store of value, on a par with, for example, precious metals, but can the broad masses of Argentines afford it?

The question of affordability doesn't arise with Bitcoin. Because, unlike the fiat currencies, Bitcoin is infinitely divisible. If you want to go for investment in Bitcoin, then there is no minimum threshold on the amount that you can invest. You can go for $1,000 or $10,000. Or you can even go for $10.

Wait, its not infinite, there are 8 decimals. Compare it with my country's money and you will see this is not trivial. 1 bolivar (VES) currently buys 3 satoshis. Soon we would need 2 for 1 satoshi, etc.

Of course Bitcoin could be soft-forked for extra decimals, but i think the need for that might be decades away, if ever.
3633  Economy / Economics / Re: Trump security adviser unveils new U.S. sanctions to pressure Cuba, Venezuela on: April 23, 2019, 11:14:17 PM
On the other hand, do we really want these filthy rich hyenas to enter the world of crypto? I'm sure that we are way better off without them, because they will try to gain control over that what they are involved in.

And not everyone buying are "clean". I can imagine more than one corrupt politician from the regime moving their ill gotten assets into crypto, if they haven't done so already...

That cannot be stopped easily, at least if they are able to use one of the anonymized altcoins. Petro is garbage/scam that will simply disappear should they fall. It is pegged, yet they change the value at whim. It has infinite supply, all nodes are in a single datacenter, code is not released... Pure garbage.

Its ironic now with crypto even rogue govs can do their ill. It used to be Swiss bank accounts but not anymore...
3634  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain introduces the Antminer S17 Pro, Antminer S17, and the Antminer T17 on: April 23, 2019, 10:49:37 PM
If it's like the S15, the fan speeds are not relatively stable. They constantly fluctuate from low to high speeds and it does this regardless of efficiency settings. The fluctuation is what makes it annoying. I never paid attention to see if it were the PSU fans or the miner, but the S15 is louder than anything else I've ever had and the S17 is supposed to be 6 db louder.

Can you take a video of this? Preferably with something to measure db noise?

If your fans are actually peaking at or near 100%, there is always the trick of disconnecting the 4th wire from the fans to force them at 100%, no firmware mod or ssh access required... This should kill the fluctuation.

You can carefully take out the wire from the female plastic plug without damaging it, with a small screwdriver to punch a little dent to release it.

Fan wiring is usually just: negative, positive, rpm reporting, rpm controlling (they have fancier words like pwm but meh).

3635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fork and Destroy Satoshi's 1 million Bitcoin? on: April 23, 2019, 09:49:22 PM
Bitcoin should be forked and Satoshi's 1 million Bitcoin destroyed completely, if he really owns that much.
A sudden withdrawal of of 1 million (or large gradual withdrawals) should be regarded as an attack on Bitcoin.

Or it should be frozen for now until developers are sure no one is going to withdraw the whole thing and crash the market.

Even if its sold someone else will buy it. You shouldn't fear the free market, embrace it and learn to use it to your advantage. Cheap bitcoins? Buy while you can...

Or perhaps he lost his priv keys anyway. Can you track how much of the 17.5 million bitcoins are "moving"? Some will never move again from lost keys. Forking over something like this is unacceptable.

You have a socialist mind, and want "intervention", but there is no State or institution so you are appealing the Bitcoin developers AND the community that keep the nodes and mining. But they won't accept such a thing.

Transitioning from a culture where you are used to a State controlling, to one where there is no one who can manipulate the money no matter what, is part of the maturity. It isn't even Bitcoin's maturity, but the people that think they understand it.

Accept that there is that million out there, and that it could be moved at any moment, or never. Its part of bitcoin's value.

Oh; Satoshi sold his million. Good for him, he deserves it. Or let him hold them for another decade, when the price gains an extra zero or so...
3636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: April 23, 2019, 09:37:09 PM
Why should the masses with no experience get to determine policy? Wouldn't policy better be determined by experts in a field? Should medical doctors write laws on oil and gas excavation? Or should oil and gas engineers get to write laws on what medical practice?

Or better yet... should experts in the field write the laws?

And they can't. First thing that happens when socialists get the power, is dictate rules for everyone else to follow. No they don't ask everyone, and even if they do, the "minority" is irrelevant. Social struggle is their belief, not peaceful resolution as done in a free market society with every transaction...

A small group ends "leading". Its a natural transition from the communist party organization, they don't believe masses can "do revolution" without leaders, they HAVE to lead. And once they get into power, this thinking remains and is put in motion nationwide.

Which is how you end with, all the "failed" attempts in human history...

Yes, they would give you this fake rhetoric/facade: "power to the people", but we the people will follow our loved great leader... They "replace" the wealthy group they accuse of everything, and after taking all their possessions by force (sometimes distribute a bit but keep the best for them) take their place as the leading "nomenclature" or party officials or revolutionary whatever. And it always degrades into something resembling a monarchy, just look at north Korea: hereditary leadership like the absolute monarchies of the past (who ruled from that very city of Pyongyang).

They call themselves social scientists, and yet neglect to see that repeating the same experiment, again, and again and again produces the same results. When are they ever going to give up? Theory does not produce results, and practice has always shown the opposite results to what they promise.

They don't blame socialism, they blame the corruption. Oh, lets conveniently forget how corruption is instigated by their system, ok, they never experienced it beyond their own thinking, that is why they make such comments. Let them try socialism somewhere, and NOTHING they do can't prevent it from degrading into, the same thing the rest of humanity degraded into when they tried...

IT DOES NOT WORK.

You always end with something worse than what you had. Humans won't act like machines even with your enforced rules, they won't ever fit in your theories, people don't act that way.
3637  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BTC addresses starting with "3" what are they ? simplified explanation. on: April 23, 2019, 09:07:10 PM
There's no issues regarding bc1 address to legacy address transactions.
Vice Versa has a problem if the wallet/exchange hasn't been updated to support native SegWit addresses.

Here's one for example: 7242816901983a5fe62d937ccc0581ae2711f8ed275d8cf7c695d0b930c553a4

Is there any list (of shame) maintained somewhere about sites that still don't support bc1? I need for example localbitcoins support, but given they use addresses beginning with 3 for deposits, i imagine you can't withdraw to bc1 addresses from there...
3638  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Tips for a Secured Net Surfing and Hacking Prevention (Guide) on: April 23, 2019, 08:48:21 PM
"Tips for a Secured Net Surfing and Hacking Prevention (Guide)"


It happens to implement all those suggestions already:

  • all software is configured to connect to the Internet through Tor
  • if an application tries to connect to the Internet directly, the connection is automatically blocked for security.
  • Encrypt your USB sticks or external hard-disks using LUKS, the Linux standard for disk-encryption.
  • Automatically use HTTPS to encrypt all your communications to a number of major websites using HTTPS Everywhere, a Firefox extension developed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
  • Encrypt and sign your emails and documents using the de facto standard OpenPGP either from Tails email client, text editor or file browser.
  • Protect your instant messaging conversations using OTR, a cryptographic tool that provides encryption, authentication and deniability.
  • Securely delete your files and clean your diskspace using Nautilus Wipe

If you have ever used the Tor Browser, you already know it won't let unknown scripts or keep cookies or history stored among other things...

Because everything is using Tor, you can use it from a public computer or wifi just fine. Just keep it ready in your usb thumb-drive and boot from it when the need comes.



never use anti-virus on my linux. i dont know it safe or not.
i have old pc 1 ram only when use that get lag for surfing
Using Linux doesnot mean that you will never get attacked one day. No system is safe from hackers.
It's just probably because Windows is a high priority for the hackers since it has so many users in it compared to other operating systems.
So it's better you have an AV in there.

The same thing you could say to someone who never bothers to lock the front door of his home, or in the case of windows, not bothering with doors in the first place... Of course the thief is at fault, but he will go to the "easy" prey first, if only for speed. That should give you a hint.
3639  Economy / Economics / Re: Why most bitcoin users from good economies countries? on: April 23, 2019, 08:28:51 PM
We can not deny the big country with good economy, it will make the society economy better too.
So they can follow the economic development and participate in transactions and investments in Bitcoin era.
How the people of small countries can participate in participation and benefit from it?
It would be very difficult to calculate the statistics of users of each country, but the comparison of Bitcoin ATM growth from this early 2017 report can be the initial reference of the statistics.
Perhaps by the end of this year, there will be more Bitcoin ATM growth across the board due to the growing interest in bitcoin this year.

People from good countries can purchase more bitcoin than people from poor countries. Also your picture is about ATMs, not bitcoin usage. Not only do ATMs charge big fees, they need to be in countries where vandalism isn't a thing, AND their local FIAT is strong enough to be worth keeping in vaults; ie. NOT a hyperinflation. 100 dollars can buy you 0.02BTC while 500 bolivares would get you 0.00001BTC. They are both the largest banknote from their respective countries...

In country A one (1) piece of paper buys the same amount than two thousand (2000) pieces of paper in country B. Guess which country will use more ATMs...
3640  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is urgent. Argentina is printing free money too on: April 23, 2019, 02:46:23 AM
Many banks are in deficit lately and the entire banking system is suffering economic depression at the moment, many of them are in dept and the government have to.safe the day by ordering the central bank to.print new currency to avoid a total economic crisis in the financial system.

Doing this is the same to declaring default. You must never do this. Now there will be a stampede of people wanting to get rid of the Peso, and the situation will quickly spiral out of hand, unless you abandon socialist ideas of "control" and embrace the (truly) free market.

Your banks are failing because of the fractional reserve system. With full reserve banking, banks can hardly ever ever go broke, and if it does, all the money in saving accounts remain there for withdrawing, only money that was lent voluntarily by the account holders could be lost.

Unfortunately this is not what you are doing, as most countries keep following the flawed Chicago school of economy, instead of following the Austrian school. If you follow Austrian economics, you can fix the situation. If you go socialism, you can only make it worse.

It is tragic that you cannot see Venezuela's mistake, where the (de-facto) government has been doing that since at least 2014.

"Printing" money is the worst of taxes, and the most hurt are ironically the poor. The very reason people want bitcoin, is to make governments forever lose the ability to pick wrong decisions like this. There is zero justification for "printing" money, believe me, letting the banks go broke would have caused less problems, as you will see...

Indeed, in the 90ies Venezuela had half of its banks go bankrupt, but things recovered a couple of years later. Now Maduro in the 10ies threw the country to the spiral of hyperinflation and we have now are in the worst crisis of her history. Why did you not learn from others mistakes? What IDIOT advised Macri to print money? This must never be allowed occur, you declared your fiat the death sentence. Run for the hills (neighbor countries), while you still can... Now instead of some people losing all their money in the banks, the entire country has been condemned to misery.

I can't believe this is the same Argentina that had the corralito and that crisis of 2001, still making those mistakes...
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