offensiv: 15% weltweiter Aktienfonds entwickelte Länder
offensiv: 15% weltweiter Aktienfonds Schwellenländer
offensiv: 15% weltweiter Aktienfonds Edelmetalle
offensiv: 35% Bitcoins selbstverständlich
defensiv: 5% Anleihenfonds weltweit
defensiv: 20% Mischfonds weltweit
defensiv: 10% Immobilienfonds weltweit
defensiv: -10% Cash
Summe: 100%
Das ist sehr offensiv, insg. 80%. Bitte nur, wenn man Schwankungen emotional locker wegsteckt. 35% auf Bitcoins ist ziemlich einseitig. Für sehr kleine Vermögen ok, für größere zu viel. -10% Cash, also Anlegen auf Kredit. Die Banken müssen die goldene Bankenregel nicht befolgen, wir schon. Da Anlagen eine mittel- bis langfristige Anlage sind, müssen auch Kredite wenigstens mittelfristig laufen, am besten mit festem Zinssatz. Wer auf Kredite zwecks Anlage zurück greift, muss genau wissen, was er macht. Deshalb kann es von mir da nur eine Empfehlung geben: Finger weg von der Spekulation auf Kredit (mit Hebel). 10% kredit wäre ein sehr sehr schwacher hebel und mit diesem Portfolio im rücken bekommst du von jeder Bank den Kredit zu nem sehr günstigem Zinssatz. 35% ist schon viel in BTC, aber gerade wenn man jung ist, dann kann man höhere Volatilität gegen sehr hohe Überrendite in Kauf nehmen. |
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how does candy crush make profit? the phone companies pay them right?
Well, i guess there lies the problem. No, if anything then Candy Crush has to pay the app store  They make their money with playing ads in the apps. Also with ingame purchases to unlock certain things! With your idea, they wouldn't earn the ingame purchases + lose money from the giveaway. Not very self-sustaining. |
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Did you want some TestNxt ?
write your TestAddress here .
Thanks -
redsn0w
Do you want some RealNXT? write your RealNXTaddress here. Thanks Twin I'm Sorry , I didn't want to create problems  . You didn't at all. I was just in the mood to giveaway some NXT (10s...  ) |
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Hey guys, I have an Idea on how to get 3000 (or lets say 2000) new users.
How about we use 1.500.000 NXT to give each of the 3000 NEM participants 500 NXT? They are a very motivated community, and we can market it like: " Check out our working system while you wait for NEM"
Thoughts?
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Do u both want antiNXT?
Write ur antiAddress here.
Thx
CfB
Fuck yeah i want: "This is my address 10626333978591385112 " " 21158316587633392901 ssǝɹppɐ ʎɯ sı sıɥʇ" |
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I had to idea how much hashrate is related to price. But won't it change in future ?
Not really, efficency will continue to rise and if the price keeps his longterm upwards trend, then the money invested in hardware will not decline any time soon (if ever!) |
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Did you want some TestNxt ?
write your TestAddress here .
Thanks -
redsn0w
Do you want some RealNXT? write your RealNXTaddress here. Thanks Twin |
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Er schreibt ja, du brauchst nicht viel, 10% deines Gesamtvermoegens reichen, egal wieviel. Ich habe mal mit 1000 Euro in CFD's angefangen. Ich meinte minimum 10% der Einkünfte sollte man sparen, für unvorhergesehenes. Und diese kann man sinnvoll so ab 2000 EUR in einem Depot in antikorrelierten Werten anlegen. Beispiel mit max. 20% je Position offensiv: weltweiter Aktienfonds entwickelte Länder offensiv: weltweiter Aktienfonds Schwellenländer offensiv: weltweiter Aktienfonds Edelmetalle offensiv: Bitcoins selbstverständlich defensiv: Anleihenfonds weltweit defensiv: Mischfonds weltweit defensiv: Immobilienfonds weltweit defensiv: Cash Mit den sehr stark gestiegenen Aktienwerten würde ich diese konkrete Verteilung wählen: offensiv: 10% weltweiter Aktienfonds entwickelte Länder offensiv: 10% weltweiter Aktienfonds Schwellenländer offensiv: 10% weltweiter Aktienfonds Edelmetalle offensiv: 20% Bitcoins selbstverständlich defensiv: 10% Anleihenfonds weltweit defensiv: 10% Mischfonds weltweit defensiv: 10% Immobilienfonds weltweit defensiv: 20% Cash Summe: 100% offensiv: 15% weltweiter Aktienfonds entwickelte Länder offensiv: 15% weltweiter Aktienfonds Schwellenländer offensiv: 15% weltweiter Aktienfonds Edelmetalle offensiv: 35% Bitcoins selbstverständlich defensiv: 5% Anleihenfonds weltweit defensiv: 20% Mischfonds weltweit defensiv: 10% Immobilienfonds weltweit defensiv: -10% Cash Summe: 100% |
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has anyone ever thought contacting the devs of (or creating) gaming apps eg candy crush, flappy bird, angry bird ect.. and look into paying people to play the games with nxt? like you earn .1 nxt per game point or what ever? perhaps you could use the nxt you earn to skip levels/buy stuff ect.. when you start the game you just insert your nxt address?
perhaps it would be best to just create a new one.. where 50% of profits are fed into paying the game players?
imagine how many more people would play the likes of candy crush if you could actually make 100 euro a week out of playing it?
instead of being awarded in game points (if you have a nxt acc entered) you are awarded in game points "assets" to the account you have entered.. and these points are then sold back to the dev and recycled.. it would add monetary value to the consumer and attract far more poeple.. even career gamers if the profits were high enough lol
perhaps an early stakeholder would like to help fund the creation of an app that feeds 100% of profit from the game minus overheads back to the gamers.. the more money it makes the more the gamers get paid the more gamers the more pay ect ect.. if a full time dev is needed just reduce the percent so his salary is included.. any ideas?
How exactely are the NXT financed? Out of thin air? Or does the early stakeholders pay the players? |
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Falls ihr Fragen bzgl irgendetwas habt, kann ich sie euch gerne in Deutsch beantworten.
Lg
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Link to main thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=528023.0
Hint: Ich bin nicht der Programmierer von CHA, nur sehr begeistert davon
Letztes Update hier: April 07, 2014, 02:21:15 PM Beschreibung | Chancecoin (CHA) is a protocol, coin, and client used to bet on dice rolls in a decentralized casino. Owners of the coin may gamble on dice rolls, with randomness provided by published NY Lottery Quick Draw numbers. Owners of the coin are automatically invested in the house bankroll. The protocol, which is based on Counterparty (XCP), is built on top of the Bitcoin blockchain. Coins are created by burning Bitcoins.
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Burn informationMaximum coins burned: 1,000,000 Burn period: Bitcoin blocks 291860 to 298340 Coins burned in first block: 1,500 CHA per 1 BTC Coins burned in last block: 1,000 CHA per 1 BTC (coins per block scaled linearly in between these blocks) BTC burn address: 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX0ZELUFDMaximum coins burned per address: unlimited Casino informationHouse edge: 2.0% Maximum win: 1.0% of bankroll Wallet softwareOS X binaryWindows binaryInstall from source on GitHubResourcesHome pageUp to date version of this documentTechnical detailsSubredditHow do I buy CHA?During the burn period, you can burn BTC into CHA using the standard Chancecoin wallet or command line interface. You can also burn BTC into CHA by sending BTC to 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD using a Bitcoin client or Blockchain.info. After the burn period, you can still trade CHA for BTC on the decentralized exchange using the standard Chancecoin wallet or command line interface. Burning with the Chancecoin walletOpen the wallet software and click on "Wallet." Under the "Burn" section, fill in your address and desired quantity to burn. Then click "Burn." Burning with the command line interfaceRun "python chancecoind.py burn --source SOURCE --quantity QUANTITY" Burning with a Bitcoin clientTo burn with a Bitcoin client, simply send the amount of BTC you want to burn to 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD. As long as one of the outputs is 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD, the burn will be credited to the first input address. Burning with Blockchain.infoTo burn using a Blockchain.info wallet, do the following: - Log in to your wallet.
- Click "Send Money."
- Choose "Quick Send" under "Transaction Type."
- Enter 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD for the "To" address.
- Enter the amount of BTC you want to burn.
- Click "Send Payment."
Note that when you use multiple input addresses, the CHA is credited to the first input address. How do I gamble?You can gamble using the standard Chancecoin wallet or command line interface. Gambling with the Chancecoin walletOpen the wallet software and click on "Casino." Choose the amount of CHA you want to bet, and the desired payout or odds of winning (one will determine the other). Then click "Roll the Dice." Gambling with the command line interfaceRun "python chancecoind.py bet --source SOURCE --bet BET --chance CHANCE --payout PAYOUT." Note that the chance of winning and the payout must be congruent. This is best illustrated with an example: if the chance of winning is 50 (meaning 50%), then the payout is 1/0.5*(1-0.02)=1.96, where 0.02 is the house edge. How do I bankroll the house?By owning CHA, you are automatically bankrolling the house. On average, you can expect to earn the house edge of 2.0% per bet. DonationsDonations to 1BckY64TE6VrjVcGMizYBE7gt22axnq6CM are welcome. DevelopersMagician and VenetianInstallation instructionsPrerequisitesInstall bitcoind or a Bitcoin client with RPC capability (such as Bitcoin-Qt). The txindex option must be enabled. From binary- Download and run a precompiled Chancecoin wallet binary.
- When you load the program for the first time, it will tell you where you need to create your configuration file, and it will also show you an example of a valid configuration file. Create this file and fill it in with the details of your Bitcoin RPC server.
- Restart the Chancecoin wallet and you should be good to go.
From source- Git fetch https://github.com/chancecoin/chancecoin.git.
- Install python3 and the following prerequisites: apsw, requests, appdirs, prettytable, python-dateutil, json-rpc, cherrypy, pycoin, pyzmq(v2.2+), tornado.
- You can run the GUI via gui.py, or the command line interface via chancecoind.py.
- Either way, you need to create a configuration file first. When you first run the program, it will tell you where you need to create your configuration file. Example.conf is an example of a valid configuration file. Create this file and fill it in with the details of your Bitcoin RPC server.
- Restart the Chancecoin wallet and you should be good to go.
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Just restarted everything, and it looks the same still.
Logfile:
WARNING:root:Status: Reparsing all transactions.
WARNING:root:Status: NEW DATABASE
ERROR:tornado.application:Exception in callback None
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Python33\lib\site-packages\tornado\ioloop.py", line 688, in start
KeyError: 1496
ERROR:tornado.application:Exception in callback None
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Python33\lib\site-packages\tornado\ioloop.py", line 688, in start
KeyError: 1104
Also balance query: Your balance is 1377.16126543 CHA.
Yeah, it looks like a bug in the binary client. I'll look into it and get back to you. Hopefully we'll get the new bitcoinj version out soon. Thanks for testing stuff out! No problem, I like to help where I can. I have some problems understanding what exactely is happening when betting or placing orders. Could you help me figuring it out? This is a bet, where I placed a 0.01 CHA bet: https://blockchain.info/tx/dd768e799afffc44a06eacb976c4a050bccc8c706232499d186bbad6a0657088?show_adv=trueThere are 3 outputs: - 0.0001086 BTC Escrow
- 0.0001086 BTC Escrow
- 0.0001086 BTC Back to my own account.
What exactely happens here? Do you even get the BTC back from the Escrow addresses? The strange thing is , that blockchain.info shows those funds in the escrow addresses still as balance of my main address. What intrests me most is, if the transaction costs me 0.0001 BTC for fee, or 0.0001BTC fee and two times 0.0001086 for escrow? Thank you ( I know that I can be annoying ) PS: Are there plans to lower the house edge? 1 % would be better in my opinion, as most BTC-Dice casinos use 1 % houseedge. The transaction does indeed cost you 0.0001 BTC for the fee plus 0.0001086*2 for the escrow. The escrow addresses are what the Chancecoin protocol reads from to interpret the bet. This is a bit of information that we'll have to document somewhere. Since people are burning under the assumption that the house edge will be 2%, we can't change it easily, but it's something the community could discuss in the future. Thank you for the information. Right now the risk for the "site bankroll" is 1/2 kelly kriterion. If we would change the house edge to 1% we could then keep the kelly criterion constant at 1/2 Kelly by setting the max profit to 0.5% site bankroll. How do you propose do we ask the community? because i'd rather change this soooner than later. I'm glad we're thinking in Kelly terms.  What does everyone think? I would consider any discussion we have here preliminary. If people want to change the house edge, we'll have to structure some kind of vote in the protocol. Is this coin only focused on bet? any other usage or plan? The wallet looks complicated as it requires Bitcoin wallet installed. Yes, this coin focuses on rolling the dice , and in investing in the house bankroll. As of now, it is a bit complicated, but the devs are working on a bitcoinj implementation, this is a java based wallet, that runs without having to download the total blockchain. Way faster and easier. Lateron, i hope we will have a webwallet like counterparty! |
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Estimated time of end of burn period: 04.05.2013
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Link to main thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=528023.0
Hint: I am not part of the developer-team, just a fan of this coin!
This thread was last updated: April 07, 2014, 02:21:15 PM Description | Chancecoin (CHA) is a protocol, coin, and client used to bet on dice rolls in a decentralized casino. Owners of the coin may gamble on dice rolls, with randomness provided by published NY Lottery Quick Draw numbers. Owners of the coin are automatically invested in the house bankroll. The protocol, which is based on Counterparty (XCP), is built on top of the Bitcoin blockchain. Coins are created by burning Bitcoins.
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Burn informationMaximum coins burned: 1,000,000 Burn period: Bitcoin blocks 291860 to 298340 Coins burned in first block: 1,500 CHA per 1 BTC Coins burned in last block: 1,000 CHA per 1 BTC (coins per block scaled linearly in between these blocks) BTC burn address: 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX0ZELUFDMaximum coins burned per address: unlimited Casino informationHouse edge: 2.0% Maximum win: 1.0% of bankroll Wallet softwareOS X binaryWindows binaryInstall from source on GitHubResourcesHome pageUp to date version of this documentTechnical detailsSubredditHow do I buy CHA?During the burn period, you can burn BTC into CHA using the standard Chancecoin wallet or command line interface. You can also burn BTC into CHA by sending BTC to 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD using a Bitcoin client or Blockchain.info. After the burn period, you can still trade CHA for BTC on the decentralized exchange using the standard Chancecoin wallet or command line interface. Burning with the Chancecoin walletOpen the wallet software and click on "Wallet." Under the "Burn" section, fill in your address and desired quantity to burn. Then click "Burn." Burning with the command line interfaceRun "python chancecoind.py burn --source SOURCE --quantity QUANTITY" Burning with a Bitcoin clientTo burn with a Bitcoin client, simply send the amount of BTC you want to burn to 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD. As long as one of the outputs is 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD, the burn will be credited to the first input address. Burning with Blockchain.infoTo burn using a Blockchain.info wallet, do the following: - Log in to your wallet.
- Click "Send Money."
- Choose "Quick Send" under "Transaction Type."
- Enter 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD for the "To" address.
- Enter the amount of BTC you want to burn.
- Click "Send Payment."
Note that when you use multiple input addresses, the CHA is credited to the first input address. How do I gamble?You can gamble using the standard Chancecoin wallet or command line interface. Gambling with the Chancecoin walletOpen the wallet software and click on "Casino." Choose the amount of CHA you want to bet, and the desired payout or odds of winning (one will determine the other). Then click "Roll the Dice." Gambling with the command line interfaceRun "python chancecoind.py bet --source SOURCE --bet BET --chance CHANCE --payout PAYOUT." Note that the chance of winning and the payout must be congruent. This is best illustrated with an example: if the chance of winning is 50 (meaning 50%), then the payout is 1/0.5*(1-0.02)=1.96, where 0.02 is the house edge. How do I bankroll the house?By owning CHA, you are automatically bankrolling the house. On average, you can expect to earn the house edge of 2.0% per bet. DonationsDonations to 1BckY64TE6VrjVcGMizYBE7gt22axnq6CM are welcome. DevelopersMagician and VenetianInstallation instructionsPrerequisitesInstall bitcoind or a Bitcoin client with RPC capability (such as Bitcoin-Qt). The txindex option must be enabled. From binary- Download and run a precompiled Chancecoin wallet binary.
- When you load the program for the first time, it will tell you where you need to create your configuration file, and it will also show you an example of a valid configuration file. Create this file and fill it in with the details of your Bitcoin RPC server.
- Restart the Chancecoin wallet and you should be good to go.
From source- Git fetch https://github.com/chancecoin/chancecoin.git.
- Install python3 and the following prerequisites: apsw, requests, appdirs, prettytable, python-dateutil, json-rpc, cherrypy, pycoin, pyzmq(v2.2+), tornado.
- You can run the GUI via gui.py, or the command line interface via chancecoind.py.
- Either way, you need to create a configuration file first. When you first run the program, it will tell you where you need to create your configuration file. Example.conf is an example of a valid configuration file. Create this file and fill it in with the details of your Bitcoin RPC server.
- Restart the Chancecoin wallet and you should be good to go.
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Xell - I mean, I thought the average error was pretty self explanatory. If it has an average error of 1.3%, that means that on average, it is off by 1.3%. That's about it. If you take all of its predictions and compare them against the actual prices, you'll find that the average of all the errors is 1.3%. A few people have asked about this though, so I'll give a little bit more detail.
1.3% of what? Absolute value? Pricemovement between 2 datapoints? Over the whole period? |
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Multisig gateway will enhance AE like any other service for Nxt will. But it isn't necessary for AE.
Yes , multisiggateway will be nice, but afaik it is NOT part of AE it is an additionL feature to trade cryptos trustless. |
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Thanks for the information. So we're talking couple of months here.
While I do understand that such a sophisticated exchange needs proper testing I am not that sure that we need to implement all the mentioned features for an initial release. Couldn't they be implemented step by step? Or is it too difficult code wise? People may lose interest. Also not everybody wants to use all the upcoming features. So I think a simple good looking client with a basic exchange might be more sensible at the beginning. Otherwise we just end up implementing terrific features while the launch is being postponed further and further.
Thank you
this arent really features, they are basic things that are needed. How else would you trade a dogetoken vs NXT? we need fractional everything. If our client and ae works perfectly it will be way better than a shitty ae at start. could ruin us! |
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