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3661  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 04, 2014, 05:40:31 PM
I agree but I think with the telephone number that is in the ebay advert it appears to point towards Hashalot in Canada?

I will email Bitmaintech and see if they will sell to me directly

Of course Bitmain will sell directly to you... just go to their website.  You will not, however, be able to pay in Pounds Sterling, or dollars, or anything but BTC if you buy direct.  The folks on eBay are charging you a premium for the ability to pay in cash and to purchase a single unit, rather than the MOQ of 2 by Bitmain.
3662  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 04, 2014, 05:28:41 PM
So..what PSU are you guys planning to use on S3 units? Is there any PSU that could power 2 of them with enough watts and cable slots (because 1 requires 4 PCIe cables if OCed of course), so 8 in total for 2 units.
EVGA G2 1300W PSU.  8 PCI-e connectors and plenty of power to drive 2 of them overclocked, or 3 running stock speeds.
3663  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 04, 2014, 01:26:01 AM
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W ATX12V/EPS12V 80Plus Gold Power Supply 120-G2-1000-XR

$164

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CGYCNG2/

might not not be enough for 2 ants at max overclock of 554Gh
It's only got 6 PCI-e, so you couldn't over clock the two anyway.  Should work fine for 1 overclocked and 1 stock.

incorrect about total number of connectors-see philips post
however, with rebate it looks like a great deal if you don't plan to overclock to the max
Yeah you're right.  I saw six cables and didn't notice that two of them are doubles.  So 8 total.  Even so you're stretching the capacity of the psu running 2 s3s on it.  I'd go with the 1300, which also has the same cabling.

Nice catch and thanks for pointing it out!

EDIT: I just picked one up.  Thanks for the link to Amazon phillma1957!  $188.99 - $35 rebate for a total of $153.99, free 2-day shipping with Prime membership.  Heck of a deal Smiley

you are welcome .  they are very nice gear.  the fan is a tiny bit loud when pulling 1215 watts doing 3 s-1's at 200gh 393 freq.

My s-1's are now underclocked..  waiting for my s-3's to put my second 1300 evga back to use.
Lol... I have an SP10... I'm quite acquainted with loud Smiley
3664  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 03, 2014, 11:15:32 PM
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W ATX12V/EPS12V 80Plus Gold Power Supply 120-G2-1000-XR

$164

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CGYCNG2/

might not not be enough for 2 ants at max overclock of 554Gh
It's only got 6 PCI-e, so you couldn't over clock the two anyway.  Should work fine for 1 overclocked and 1 stock.

incorrect about total number of connectors-see philips post
however, with rebate it looks like a great deal if you don't plan to overclock to the max
Yeah you're right.  I saw six cables and didn't notice that two of them are doubles.  So 8 total.  Even so you're stretching the capacity of the psu running 2 s3s on it.  I'd go with the 1300, which also has the same cabling.

Nice catch and thanks for pointing it out!

EDIT: I just picked one up.  Thanks for the link to Amazon phillma1957!  $188.99 - $35 rebate for a total of $153.99, free 2-day shipping with Prime membership.  Heck of a deal Smiley
3665  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 03, 2014, 10:34:33 PM
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W ATX12V/EPS12V 80Plus Gold Power Supply 120-G2-1000-XR

$164

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CGYCNG2/

might not not be enough for 2 ants at max overclock of 554Gh
It's only got 6 PCI-e, so you couldn't over clock the two anyway.  Should work fine for 1 overclocked and 1 stock.
3666  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 03, 2014, 10:25:07 PM
I see a good deal on a power supply and was wondering if this power supply is ok to run an S3 on.
It's on newegg for 59.99 -15.00 instant  -15.00 rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152035&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=600263&SID=

 Roll Eyes


Raidmax RX-630SS Hybrid 630W ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply
While I suppose it could, I wouldn't use it.  It's got 2 12V rails and only has 2 PCI-e connectors, so no chance of over clocking your S3.
3667  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: How to seemy stats on p2pool? on: July 03, 2014, 08:47:48 PM
I just started using p2pool, and I want to know how to view my own stats. I am using rockminer r-box's running on a raspberry pi. My username is my BTC address, but I am unaware how to find my stats.
Are you running your own p2pool node?  If yes, and you're using the default front end, just go to http://your.node.ip.address:9332/static

That will show you your stats.

I have no idea, this is what I typed in for the mining address http://p2pool.org:9332

And I used my bitcoin address as my username.
You are definitely not running your own node - you're paying somebody else 2% to run it for you.  Anyway, just go to that website, and look for your miner's address.  You'll see how much your expected payout is, along with your hash rate.  Those are all the stats you'll see.  If you want more, I suggest running your own node, or finding another node that will offer you more details.

If I run a node I get fees? Is there a tutorial on setting up my own node?

You get fees if you decide to charge fees.  Running your own node is pretty easy - there are a number of threads right here in this forum that explain how to get it up and running:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.0 - the official p2pool thread.  Start here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62842.0 - setting up and running merged mining (it's old, but full of valuable info)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651819.0 - great guide and pretty much 2 clicks and done installation

Also, there are a ton of people here that run nodes.  Windpath has a fantastic front end and is my go-to pool when I'm not running my own node (i.e. I'm traveling and take my MBP with me).  Norgan has a nice front end as well, but he's in Australia and Singapore, so not really for me.  There's also Blisterpool by HunterBunter.  And I can't forget NastyPool by OgNasty.  Mdude77 runs a node on the west coast of the US.  I forget who runs it (forgive me), but it's called galactica geek galaxy.  Oh... and raskul has the Central Cavern running in the EU (Amsterdam).

Feel free to post your questions about the running of a node in the official thread - you're likely to get more traction/attention there.
3668  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: How to seemy stats on p2pool? on: July 03, 2014, 08:35:26 PM
I just started using p2pool, and I want to know how to view my own stats. I am using rockminer r-box's running on a raspberry pi. My username is my BTC address, but I am unaware how to find my stats.
Are you running your own p2pool node?  If yes, and you're using the default front end, just go to http://your.node.ip.address:9332/static

That will show you your stats.

I have no idea, this is what I typed in for the mining address http://p2pool.org:9332

And I used my bitcoin address as my username.
You are definitely not running your own node - you're paying somebody else 2% to run it for you.  Anyway, just go to that website, and look for your miner's address.  You'll see how much your expected payout is, along with your hash rate.  Those are all the stats you'll see.  If you want more, I suggest running your own node, or finding another node that will offer you more details.
3669  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [600 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: July 03, 2014, 08:31:56 PM
Our luck remains strong my friends Smiley


2 blocks in 38 minutes... nice.  If only my miners hadn't decided to take a vacation from share finding... lol.
3670  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: How to seemy stats on p2pool? on: July 03, 2014, 07:38:09 PM
I just started using p2pool, and I want to know how to view my own stats. I am using rockminer r-box's running on a raspberry pi. My username is my BTC address, but I am unaware how to find my stats.
Are you running your own p2pool node?  If yes, and you're using the default front end, just go to http://your.node.ip.address:9332/static

That will show you your stats.
3671  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 03, 2014, 06:11:14 PM
Maybe the down trend is Bitmain taking units offline from their S3 farm in order to package them up and ship.

Yeah that's who I was considering being one of the 'big players' but still with the rate hardware production is going I wouldn't be so swayed against a levelling out difficulty.

I dont disagree with the folks saying they are going to be making so much money because after all we all expect the BTC price to increase.

The issue is people have to pay using BTC which makes this deal not very nice since the unit won't return the original BTC you paid for them. Yes you will make money in the long run though.

Yeah that's true. I forgot to factor in the BTC price rise in my posts. It's a very legitimate argument, so hard to predict when the bitcoin has actually hit it's maximum, which it very likely hasn't. It's always a gamble  Wink

I don't understand why people make the distinction between prices in BTC and $$. If you have the coinbase account it is all the same.
Buy BTC instantly for $$ on Coinbase (up to $1000), pay with BTC that you just got, so essentially you paid with $$.
I think the argument goes like this:

1) Buy BTC for $$
2) Purchase miner with BTC
OR
2) Hold BTC you just bought

When you purchase the miner, you are hoping that it will return more than the BTC it cost to purchase it, otherwise you would have better been served by just buying and holding.  Regardless of what the price of BTC does, if your miner does not make back the BTC it cost you to purchase it (plus any other additional costs like electricity, power supplies and cooling) then you've lost on your gamble.

One thing you do get by purchasing a miner with your BTC is the ability to then later sell that same miner, whereas if you just bought and held BTC, you've got exactly what you started with.
3672  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: P2Pool donation tool now available to help decentralize the network on: July 03, 2014, 12:47:47 PM
Hey... I'm getting internal server error when I go to your donate page.
3673  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Does anyone actually have AntMiner S2 1TH/s? on: July 03, 2014, 12:15:10 PM
seems pretty good
few questions
1. is that the best deal on the market currently?
2. where to get those coupons
3. do they price in BTC or USD originally? Since BTC is quite on the rise.
4. is it late to pre-order for the first batch of s3s?
1) No - see the post directly above yours.  The S3 is currently a better deal than the S2
2) Bitmain gives them to you when you order from them.  Or, if somebody has coupons in their account, they can send to your account.  Most people expect to be paid for the coupons.
3) BTC only
4) Yes
3674  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [600 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: July 02, 2014, 09:17:21 PM
Quote
Also I have 1 S2 in the mix, and it mostly stays at 1010 or there about according to the stats??? once in awhile it will go into the 900s but in an hour or so I will see it back up....
Interesting... virtually everyone who owns one has seen and reported at least a 10% loss.  There's been plenty of discussion on this - kano has been working to release a stable version of cgminer for the S2 that plays nicely with p2pool... Bitmain has been sent a ton of data and has replied that they indeed intend to support p2pool and have their core devs working on it.

Anyway, stick around.  At first the variance is hard to accept, especially if you're coming from "the pool that shall not be named," but in the long run, I think you'll like it here.
3675  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [600 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: July 02, 2014, 08:41:59 PM

First... OUCH, that's a hefty electric bill.
Second, do you know what your expected payout was exactly at the time the block was found?  As others have stated, your expected payout is based completely upon how many shares you currently have in the share chain.  It is very possible that you found fewer than expected shares prior to the block being found, then found more than expected shares since.  With only a total of 24 hours of mining on p2pool, you're not at your full potential yet.  The share chain takes into account the previous 8640 shares (about 3 days) when making payouts.

As windpath noted, and I can confirm, the expected payouts are pretty much spot on compared to actuals when the block is found.


Yea Ouch I know. On ghash was bringing in around 90.00 a day sometimes it would hit 115.00. all the others a little less.
But here I got 23.00 ..... I am moving up the list it says my payout is .0858812, noticed I am getting higher on this list every few hours.
Thanks for your inputs... I will try for a few more days and see the outcome.
I hate to give my hash to ghash as I dont like their attitudes especially when it it hit 51%
BUT at this point I have to be where the most $$$$ is at.
I will be lucky to stay profitable for another month and 1/2 I think......
I made my investment and I pay the electric and am still up 1500 a month so so far ok
BUT .........

Once again thanks for everyone's
info as it all helps!

Bryon



One more thing - if you're running Antminer S2, you're losing about 10-15% of your hashing on p2pool.  It's a known issue, and hopefully one that will be corrected (either by Bitmain directly, by one of the cgminer developers, or the p2pool developer).

That payout value will continue to rise until 8640 shares have been put on the share chain since you started on the pool.  From there it will remain pretty much normalized at that level.  Remember, too, that this is a PPLNS system.  You could shut down your miners now and still get paid (assuming you still have valid shares on the chain when the next block is found).

Finally, p2pool will be considerably more variant than where you were mining.  There will be times when no blocks are found for a few days, but then 4 will be found in a day.  For a great comparison of payouts of p2pool vs BTCGuild vs Eligius, check out this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=416933.0
3676  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [600 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: July 02, 2014, 08:02:31 PM

Hey Guys...I hope I am asking in the right area.
Looks like we got a block, how come, my estimated payout... and the the section that says if a block were found now.....
Did not even come close to that number not even half?HuhHuh
Just trying to understand it......
Its so low payout..... makes it not worth giving this much time to a pool???
Can anyone help me understated a bit better without writing a book???
I want to stay with this as I love it, but the electric bills over 1200.00
cant let me make 20.00 a day?Huh?
Thanks so much in advance....

how long have you been mining with p2pool?  it takes about 3 days to get up to par with the estimated payout because of the PPLNS.

1200 electric bill?  that's either some seriously expensive electricity, or some serious hashrate.

M
With p2pool solid 24 hours as of block time.....



4TH hash rate.....


not to mention, my normal bill here in South Florida is around 325.00 with the heat here and AC....
First... OUCH, that's a hefty electric bill.
Second, do you know what your expected payout was exactly at the time the block was found?  As others have stated, your expected payout is based completely upon how many shares you currently have in the share chain.  It is very possible that you found fewer than expected shares prior to the block being found, then found more than expected shares since.  With only a total of 24 hours of mining on p2pool, you're not at your full potential yet.  The share chain takes into account the previous 8640 shares (about 3 days) when making payouts.

As windpath noted, and I can confirm, the expected payouts are pretty much spot on compared to actuals when the block is found.
3677  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: July 02, 2014, 06:41:30 PM
I've got a Corsair RM850 which is running two over clocked S1's.  I was thinking of getting two S3's, and was wondering what PSU to get, I would like to get a PSU that has 8 PCI-e connectors.  What would you guys suggest for such a PSU?
If you like your Corsair and want to stick with the brand, the RM1000 and the AX1500i, AX1200i all satisfy your requirements.
3678  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: BitCoins Related Software for MAC on: July 02, 2014, 11:08:29 AM
Not sure exactly what you're looking for here, but since I run everything on a Mac (Late 2013 15" rMBP with OSX Mavericks), I can tell you some of the things that I've found to work:
  • Bitcoin-QT.  The full node software runs just find on OSX
  • P2Pool.  You can run your own p2pool node
  • Asteroid.  A mac-specific GUI mining software.
  • MacMiner.  Another mac-specific GUI mining software
  • bfgminer and cgminer.  Both compile and run fine on OSX
  • cudaminer and ccminer.  More mining software targeted towards the nVidia cards
  • Many alternative coin wallets.  I won't list them all, but examples are LTC, DVC, IXC, DOGE, NMC

A great resource is nwoolls.  He has done a ton of work getting software/hardware running with the Mac.  He's got a great blog and has contributed to multiple projects (bfgminer primarily).

Hope this is helpful.
3679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [RAFFLE] MMXIV is raffling off TWO Antminer S3s - One MMXIV per entry - 100 Max on: June 30, 2014, 11:38:14 PM
Raffle for a pair of S3s?  Sign me up please Smiley
3680  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3 Discussion and Support Thread. on: June 30, 2014, 04:41:52 PM
On average, how long does it take for the to receive the payment after sending?
10 minutes or so after I sent mine I saw that it was confirmed on their end.
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