Fuck you, you just trying to make my rating go down !!!!!!!! fucking stupid idiot, you think you can tell shit like that??
PROOVE IT you idiot.
GOOD LUCK
You bitching doesn't help this situation, it makes people more inclined to give you negative rep. Clarify it and stop acting like a child. |
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Alright, from what I can see here, AquaMan did scam, and Mahav also tried to send you fake escrow info including a fake escrow PGP contract. An agreement was made on .759 BTC for 25 LTC to the following address: https://blockchain.info/address/1MgB2nXb6Kgou3tVDoe9vVudEcDG1QVvrxWhich you can see was transferred off, so AquaMan took the funds and ran for sure. http://gyazo.com/cf2eaa54eed3daf0ee6a1cda23963ad1Which is where AquaMan states his address before the part deal (25 LTC rather than 100 at once) was confirmed. http://gyazo.com/29c766e5d06e5b8ae05555c0e5e5db0cWhich is where AquaMan basically runs with the funds. The fake escrow contract is too big for gyazo, so i'll just put it in code tags: Alright, I was actually able to catch John in the #bitcoin webchat, after several bouts of entering/leaving. I have not actually dealt with him before so I assume my PM wasn't high on his priorities. Anyway he sent me this on the chat:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
The escrow address for “mahav” (the seller) and “biggie” (the buyer) transaction would be:
(200 LTC in escrow, awaiting BTC deposit from “biggie”)
LW2j3C3rksN2KHvjcNzfyLUwFJw2nXy2sw - Litecoin
1LfejDBJ3UbFw7BVLGTzdTeR1bvqdHpuvh – Bitcoin
Please state and agree to the conditions (It is 6.17 BTC for 200 LTC.) beforehand.
If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on. GPG signing is not a requirement, and any verbal exchange in the form of private messages or posts on bitcointalk.org, or email is effective as a ‘statement of condition’.
The fine print:
This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org.
The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of. On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos.
The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of coins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract.
Please understand that I am assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Coins, and I am using my own time to facilitate this transaction.
If possible, please tip me at 1NB1KFnFqnP3WSDZQrWV3pfmph5fWRyadz. BTC -
Thank you.
John (the escrow holder)
22 June 2013
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32)
JfejJNu848327NJfdsJFOI8cBRYBAgAGBQJRg2XbAAoJEINT5jezqu6w3AYP/ApHELTvPZZt2yoD0Ff9IzGe
zffTQAWJEx0rqlO3ymmYI9dy3Q1zKeFjUw/6wFJmxIlYAL/UJ9QxGZWv2sb5SL0B
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/Zw2149
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
John K.
Let me know if this agreement sounds good and then I believe I'll have to send the 200 LTC to John's address. Not doing anything yet until you reply though! TL;DR, there's the proof, time to go neg rep AquaMan and Mahav. |
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I'm now doing this too  Starting posts: 324 Address: 1Diaz9Nhs8d8GEXcwTJQKDkwzKj34UH2r4 First payment is on July 24th Could you quote and confirm this please? Confirmed Thanks a bunch  |
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Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described.
Thank you for confirming and your bother to check this ! I hope now we can put a scammertag on AquaMan, mods ? PS: And if there is still a TRUSTED person who wants to check for himself feel free to post here and i will give you my password to verify. The thing is, you can't just get all the mods to check, without a big scam and screenshot proof so that the mods don't have their time wasted, all you can do is have people on DefaultTrust (incl. Tomatocage and me) give them negative reputation. Also: PM me your login details and I will check and leave negative reputation if there is sufficient proof. Sorry, i really need some one trusted or recommended by another trusted member. Tomatocage was recommend to me by a highly trusted person so i gave him my pass to verify my story. And it's not a waste of time, tomatocage saw it fast. So any mod/admin can do the same if they want. Right now i hope the mods/admins will act to stop this guy from scamming people. They won't, only trust ratings will. Unless this guy made off with 1000 BTC, then he won't be getting a scammer tag, and without proof, then the community won't really put any reds on him :S If some one trusted wants to vouch for you then i will give you my password so you can verify and give AquaMan a negative rating. I know it's not alot of BTC, but it's principle, next time he might take alot more from some one else in the nearby future and we all stood and watched ... If people see the community at bitcointalk deals fast with scammers it'll only be positive. Don't know why I have to make myself look trusted to look at some PMs, but... I have some decent rep from trades, excluding 2 negatives, one from someone who gave me a negative rep after I gave them a negative rep (calling me an alt of Tomatocage, lmao) and one who gave me a negative rep after I called them out for literally making a thread that said 10 names and the word "SCAMMERS". I'm also on DefaultTrust: http://gyazo.com/16322964e2a6c0f60e48ff35360cf27aSatisfied?  |
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Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described.
Thank you for confirming and your bother to check this ! I hope now we can put a scammertag on AquaMan, mods ? PS: And if there is still a TRUSTED person who wants to check for himself feel free to post here and i will give you my password to verify. The thing is, you can't just get all the mods to check, without a big scam and screenshot proof so that the mods don't have their time wasted, all you can do is have people on DefaultTrust (incl. Tomatocage and me) give them negative reputation. Also: PM me your login details and I will check and leave negative reputation if there is sufficient proof. Sorry, i really need some one trusted or recommended by another trusted member. Tomatocage was recommend to me by a highly trusted person so i gave him my pass to verify my story. And it's not a waste of time, tomatocage saw it fast. So any mod/admin can do the same if they want. Right now i hope the mods/admins will act to stop this guy from scamming people. They won't, only trust ratings will. Unless this guy made off with 1000 BTC, then he won't be getting a scammer tag, and without proof, then the community won't really put any reds on him :S |
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4242, it's worth a second go |
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There is no law against holding your money if you don't give them ID.
{{citation needed}} There is a law? Wait, where? {{citation needed}} |
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Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described.
Thank you for confirming and your bother to check this ! I hope now we can put a scammertag on AquaMan, mods ? PS: And if there is still a TRUSTED person who wants to check for himself feel free to post here and i will give you my password to verify. The thing is, you can't just get all the mods to check, without a big scam and screenshot proof so that the mods don't have their time wasted, all you can do is have people on DefaultTrust (incl. Tomatocage and me) give them negative reputation. Also: PM me your login details and I will check and leave negative reputation if there is sufficient proof. |
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Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described.
Tomatocage, could you put some proof/screenshots up? |
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1.12 mil premine, lol that's funny. Let this crappy coin die, I bet they'll keep ~1mil of the premine...
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A wild ponzi appeared!What do you do?>> Give the ponzi scheme all your money That is the basic logic that some people show, is it not? 
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Called my bank, and you are right! ACH reversals can be made!
But I'll have to go to the branch in person, fill out a couple of forms, and wait ~10 business days to get my deposit back....
I still blame BitBox for all the wastage of time, and holding up of my money!!!
In Bitbox's defense, you've made a massive shitstorm and stirred it up. This looks like it could've easily been fixed... Now that I have my money back, I can lol @ your comment. In my defense, I should have the right to refuse to accept the ToS and NOT get my money confiscated. The whole "shitstorm" was based on an idea as simple as that. Was that wrong to assume? It's against the law for them to violate the law (well, we knew that already, didn't we?). There is no law against holding your money if you don't give them ID. |
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No updates with this, I think if he comes back and tries anything stupid then a scammer tag should be applied. This was a decent sized scam, quite sad that it happened tbh. He hasn't been active for 4 days and hasn't posted for a week.  |
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Thanks Tomato dude! Your rating will actually have meaning relative to mine. Should have listened to your how to spot a scammer Step 1! hah No worries Diamond. Although it was a nice chunk of coin, actually a bit more irritated that I spent the time that I did on it. Everyone on this board has been quite wonderful so far. He is quite the exception. Actually almost just swallowed the loss and moved on, but would be even more upset with myself if I saw another get conned so posted my experience. Not going to spend too much time on this at this point. If he tries further deals, he'll have this tied to him, so I'm fine. He'll get whats coming to him eventually, they always do. Well, he won't be getting any more trades on that account with -2 trusted rep. But he could make a new one...escrow needs to be more widely used  |
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Any details on this? What is the level of your "Unused" account? How much subscription time does it have? Does it have Catalysm?
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BFL probably already spent a very large proportion of the preorder money on R&D. If this is the case, they won't have much incentive to run away. They'll make more money by successfully delivering the product and then selling more.
1. Are they not still taking in funds, albeit at a much smaller rate? It's just about production now. 2. If they run they'll have some money and quite a lot of ASIC chips - they could make a lot of money mining Bitcoin (and panic might be caused if a few TH/s just drop on and off the network), or attacking the blockchain to commit fraud. 3. They might make more money by delivering it, but I doubt many people will order from BFL after this is cleaned up. |
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Dumbasses, 1.8MH/s on SCRYPT, obviously. A CPU could do 1.8MH/s on Bitcoin. A 1.8MH/s Scrypt farm would probably do a decent hashrate on Bitcoin.
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I'm now doing this too Starting posts: 324 Address: 1Diaz9Nhs8d8GEXcwTJQKDkwzKj34UH2r4 First payment is on July 24th Could you quote and confirm this please? |
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Called my bank, and you are right! ACH reversals can be made!
But I'll have to go to the branch in person, fill out a couple of forms, and wait ~10 business days to get my deposit back....
I still blame BitBox for all the wastage of time, and holding up of my money!!!
In Bitbox's defense, you've made a massive shitstorm and stirred it up. This looks like it could've easily been fixed... |
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