Moolah can't even act neutral, they're one of the biggest SYS holders.
sb said Moolah will hold fund till dev team solved the bugs?does it right? if so ,god ,it will dump again. we need to our invest back. deadline 6pm GMT |
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Moolah can't even act neutral, they're one of the biggest SYS holders.
In the future, when ppl get the refund, Mintpal/Moolah can pump to da moon, Mintpal/Moolah can earn a lot of money. |
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How much time left for the 48 hour deadline?
18:00 GMT 20th, so about 6 hours left |
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Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).
Oops. Top job moolah.
Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.
I think this is really simple. ICO investors are screaming - refund us! Those who investedlater + pumpers and dumpers are screaming - no refunds! The question is: which group is more important to developers of this coin? I personally think that definitely terms of ICO were not met. I've lost on this coin but I am willing to accept it (however I am sad that I as a true believer in this coin have much worse entry polsition than pumpers and dumpers). Once again I recomment the 518 buy wall solution. I personally would not dump into this wall and I guess many other ICO investors also would not. Some people would though, but it is good, since everyon would get what they want. I bet devs wouldstay with more than 1000 BTC (which is enough for decent development) and all the FUD would end. I agree that argument "you could sell for 1000 satoshi" brought in by one of the developers is invalid. Only few people were able to sell coins back then and also why would you want to reward people who dropped your coin. We all know that devs don't have their money yet. But promise of 518 satoshi exit wall is one thing that could do miracles for this coin. +10000. Agree with whale123 |
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This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.
MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!
Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.
Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?
Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming. Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied? Where? Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah. Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions. See the OP Q: What's the difference between Sys and Ether? A: Syscoin is based on well known, peer reviewed codebases (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Namecoin) that have been combined and extended. Ethereum is an attempted rewrite of this in a sense to try and deliver a turing-complete smart contract solution. This is not the same as Syscoin. Additionally: Sooner delivery of it's presale; Syscoin was delivered on August 16, 2014. The amount of ether that will be mined every year is dependent on how many they sell during their presale. The more they sell the more that will be mined the year of release, giving a bigger dilution to the already mined/bought coins. After Ether presale closes you have to wait till at least December/January to see anything; if at all. Syscoin offered a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah). The Ethereum team is allowed to use up to 5000btc before anything is even done properly or working and if it is a complete failure not a single refund was offered and no escrow option. |
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Let me make a short summary out of this.
1) We had faith in this coin as a moneymaker
2) We invested in this because this was a sure bet we either get satoshi rich or we get back the money
3) Somebody put some damn walls so we can sell and retrieve the investment
4) It seems we bet on the wrong horse now but we still want our money back
You were right , that is no FUD , it's a child crying after he lost his marbles.
Agreed. I see absolutely no reason to give a refund. No other crypto refunds and they have been KNOWN SCAMS. This coin is not a scam, the ICO was final. Deal with it and start spreading good vibes about SYS. Cause there ai'nt no other way you're getting back an ROI otherwise. But moolah is escrow and said if the coin doesn't deliver & function well, they will refund investors, so your point are wrong. PPL trust Moolah and Mintpal, so they dare invest this coin Deliver and function. There is no talk about the price in this. Now . we have two possibilities right: 1) the coin is not delivering the promise , a refund should be issued and it has nothing to do with buy walls. And if it's shit buy walls won't help it. 2) the coin was delivered with the features then there would be no refund and the coin is on it's own PS. About the so much talked features. In github I've seen a few pull requests from saffron coin. Quite interesting that both coins where launched on the same day and both have this decentralized market in the blockchain feature... Somebody double checking this? I'm in no mood for detective work at this hour... the coins launch time was delayed. then it was forkedtwice. the best hing was moolah should have allowed a refund when the coin did not work at the first time. after two forks. wallet still has to be restarted. and blockchain data deleted before it works again. seriously? should we just acceptthis wallet is functional? search buttons arent working on alias. sometimes marketplace disappears. fuck even the copy features arent working in the wallet. its a total disaster. but we are trusting devs to deliver what was pomised. now if they didnt moolah said they will allow more 48 hours to devs. are those 48 hours over now right? i have invested in this coin. but truth is truth +1. I agree with awais3344, even moolah said they would refund if the coin doesn't function well, how you guys(mothermole1, niothor) ignore the truths, and said refund is not needed? You guys don't wanna the refund because you sold high? You know other investors' feelings? NO |
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Let me make a short summary out of this.
1) We had faith in this coin as a moneymaker
2) We invested in this because this was a sure bet we either get satoshi rich or we get back the money
3) Somebody put some damn walls so we can sell and retrieve the investment
4) It seems we bet on the wrong horse now but we still want our money back
You were right , that is no FUD , it's a child crying after he lost his marbles.
Agreed. I see absolutely no reason to give a refund. No other crypto refunds and they have been KNOWN SCAMS. This coin is not a scam, the ICO was final. Deal with it and start spreading good vibes about SYS. Cause there ai'nt no other way you're getting back an ROI otherwise. Ok another of moronic posts on this thread. 1. show me an ICO of these KNOWN SCAMS which reached 1500 BTC? Answer is none. So the amount at stake is huge. 2. Trust in the ICO was based on moolah' rep and devs promise of a refund if working product is not delivered. That's is why it sold 1500 BTC. Go check another ICOs running right now. Some barely make past 10-20 BTC. Ones hosted on C-CEX/BITTREX etc are touching 100 BTC with effort. Now there are bound to be comparison with CRYPTI which raised 750 BTC too. But, the price of IPO was super cheap and ICO investors could dump their coins without loss if they were not agreeable to the term of delay. SYSCOIN had a pricey IPO and then delayed their launch. People buying are stuck and saying shit like NO REFUND or THERE ARE OTHER KNOWN SCAMS is not going to help anyone. Just refund or put a buy wall and let people exit. TOTALLY agree with you |
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Let me make a short summary out of this.
1) We had faith in this coin as a moneymaker
2) We invested in this because this was a sure bet we either get satoshi rich or we get back the money
3) Somebody put some damn walls so we can sell and retrieve the investment
4) It seems we bet on the wrong horse now but we still want our money back
You were right , that is no FUD , it's a child crying after he lost his marbles.
Agreed. I see absolutely no reason to give a refund. No other crypto refunds and they have been KNOWN SCAMS. This coin is not a scam, the ICO was final. Deal with it and start spreading good vibes about SYS. Cause there ai'nt no other way you're getting back an ROI otherwise. But moolah is escrow and said if the coin doesn't deliver & function well, they will refund investors, so your point are wrong. PPL trust Moolah and Mintpal, so they dare invest this coin |
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This is merely biggest disaster in crypto!
I've been following this coin for weeks (months, actually) and had faith in devs from the beginning.
But it seems that those people might be great coders with vision, however they totally don't understant how crypto markets work.
This is D-I-S-A-S-T-E-R!
Why? Because hundreds of ICO investors are feeling fucked right now. Of course crypto is about risk but all successful IPO/ICO coins were using presale money to sustain the price. This way they were gaining HUGE ARMY OF LOYAL INVESTORS WHO WERE PROMOTING THE COIN FOR THEM. That is the basic of price management. Maybe some (most?) coins do not admit to supporting their own price but this is how it works in the first stage.
And here? Instead of hundreds of loyal investors to promote their coin, Syscoin developers gained hundreds of whiners and FUDDers. And this won't end in a week or two - this will continue for many months. I have to admit I didn't expect that.
Few months ago someone was posting here that he will wait and buy when we are in the 200 satoshi price range. People were laughing at him but it seems that he had a point after all. This is going down. I am holding my ICO but I already accepted that I might lose on that one.
Devs, I am not here to troll. I am here to help and keeping my mouth quite won't help. All cool innovations on blockchain are great, but first things first - it seems that you have bred not hundreds of loyal fans, but hundreds of desperate haters. And they will bring this coin down, no matter what you do. Exit buy wall is a must now. You will lose some of those presale BTC and you need to accept this. The longer you wait with announcing the wall and the longer you wait with building it after you get the ICO money, the more you will lose.
Sorry, but if you won't take care of army of haters issue RIGHT KNOW, someone will just take your ideas and execute them in better, smarter way.
So many people told you here that exit wall at 518 satoshi is only thing that could save this coin and yet you are doing nothing about it. You don't need actual BTC to do this, you just could promise that it will happen when you get your money and announce it.
Someone wrote here that "you could sell at 1000 satoshi". Insane! Most people were unable to do anything at that point with their coins. Also, we - the ICO buyers - were supposed to hold and help the coin grow this way. But since devs seem to - excuse my French - piss at us, this is no longer going to happen. People are just hoping to quit this coin and move somewhere where devs actually care about their investment.
Please, please, please - do not avoid this issue. Announce the buy wall immediately and build it as soon as you get your BTC. No excuses on that one! The buy wall should stand there and you could take BTC for development from it gradually.
+1, if they set buy order at 518 later, the more money will be lost, when ppl lost faiths on this coin, the price will be lower |
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Another thing I remember is that devs have 3% premine for themselves, 3% of the max 100%, but it wont be the 100% for another 40 years, so at this current rate, the devs premine is around 18% of the current total supply. So if the market cap is 1mill, the devs currently own about 180k usd of that. Wow amazing. And the devs claimed there premine addys willl be transparent? Nope, no transparency? Yup delete my post like always  Devs please post premine addys. Transparency:As promised: DEV WALLET. Currently contains DEV + BOUNTY funds and we have been using some funds for bounties- we're started paying them out!  Check it My mistake, its transparent. So lets do some quick math. Premine in address: 59,918,967sys = 266BTC 18% dev premineOh my god im laughing so hard right now, we got rolled so hard, 1500btc AND 18% premine. 1500btc is 15%presale coin, 2% premine, 1% bounty. You are wrong again, plz don't troll here, just focus your own coin, plz. Or noboby will buy your coin because you like trolling but not coding. |
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It seems majority of people who invested in SYSCoin wants quick profit of x2 - x5 and most of them are pissed, this is long term people.
If you wanna get out or little to no patience, just dump.
actually not, but the price now is too low, if 500+ sat now ppl would have more patience, 410 sat is panic and almost all ppl are bagholders(who didn't sell before) |
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Another thing I remember is that devs have 3% premine for themselves, 3% of the max 100%, but it wont be the 100% for another 40 years, so at this current rate, the devs premine is around 18% of the current total supply. So if the market cap is 1mill, the devs currently own about 180k usd of that. Wow amazing. And the devs claimed there premine addys willl be transparent? Nope, no transparency? Yup delete my post like always Devs please post premine addys. Transparency:As promised: DEV WALLET. Currently contains DEV + BOUNTY funds and we have been using some funds for bounties- we're started paying them out! Check it |
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There is a way to address this issue, set up buy support wall at eary ICO price, pissed ICO investors will dump their coins, so guys want to leave then leave, guys want to stay then stay, every one is happy.
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It seems the best way! Should set 2 big walls at 456 and 518 sat again
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12 hours left, refund or dev team gets the 1500 btc? Hope a huge buy support at 518 sat when dev team gets the 1500 btc.
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I know this has been asked a million times but I get no block source available. Ever.
I've re-installed the latest 1.2 countless times, rebooted, deleted user/appdata/roaming/syscoin , deleted syscoin install dir. rebooted... WTF? I've been holding off getting my coin from Moolah until there is a working wallet and there still isn't a working wallet. Yeah Yeah run Console add nodes. That worked for the LAST update but THAT's not a "Working Wallet"
Will we be able to DL a working wallet? One that we don't have to create a conf. file or addnodes?
Last night I uninstalled syscoin from the control panel > uninstall a program (if you used the installer) and deleted everything but the wallet in roaming\syscoin So do that. Then download the zip file. https://mega.co.nz/#!id4hEIob!PlJRLkyoLtSHodafjmGG-1PHGE23bntciWjLA3Rw-C0Throw the zip file onto your desktop and open the folder. Open syscoin wallet in that folder. Give it a minute and it should sync. It worked for me. No syscoin.conf file needed. If I use the installer then I need the syscoin.conf file. 48 Hours will be end,if dev team can not fix bugs , the project means fail .
It's funny, man, why, it will never faill except DEV runs away. hi,man ,please see the ann from escrow , deadline is 48H,that means today is dead line Moolah will reassess the situation. Moolah will see the team has made progress and is actively working on things. Basically the deadline was there incase the team was doing jackshit. As time goes on it is looking less and less likely there will be refunds. We will wait and see though. If we don't have a refund, I hope dev team can make a huge buy support(at least 500btc wall) at 518 sat, it can regain investors' faiths and protect the price. |
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Devs, please read this carefully.
I've been with this coin from the beginning (posting in this thread since April, following Dano since February MEOW relaunch).
So... no FUD intended.
There is no doubt that the coin has some innovative concept.
There were also some issues at launch that all of us are aware (you luckily managed to solve those issues).
Unfortunatelly, problem is that altcoins are mostly not about technology, but about community's sentiments. And unfortunatelly, there is too much dark clouds above Sys community. We can debate if it is deserved or not but the fact is that there are many people here with negative attitude, which might be a threat for the coin.
Some people bought after launch or were waiting to buy but were disappointed with the launch issues (which were already fixed).
Also, there is many people who invested into ICO and now have worse starting position. This is especially dangerous - we have tu understand, that we have peple with 1500 BTC worth of coins who are pissed that they believed in the coin as one of the first and yet they are on worse position than all the rest. It seems that syscoin believer lost this round and guys who were late to the party are going to win. We can not let that happen. We don't want army of unhappy people. As soon as you get those escrowed BTC's you should definitely use it to set 1500 BTC buy support at 518 satoshi. Maybe some people will decide to exit, but probably most won't just because of that action, helping to protect the price. You don't have to do this, but please, listen to me - you definitely should do this. People won't be listening to innovation news unless they won't feel safe about the price. Sorry, that's how crypto works. I know you pot lots of effort into this coin and it is your dream to make it successful. Don't let this mistake stop it from happening. Protect the early investors who were with you from the beginning and you will only benefit.
that is a good option. even if someone thinks they should dump will see the huge buy wall and he would rather not dump at all. some people are going to be very unhappy. the same ones that fud all day lure these newbie investors into dumping their coins below ico price. theres so many pump and dump groups at work. always. they sell between 100sat difference and buy back and repeat it all day. investments keep disappearing and people take money and at last dump the rest of the coins as well. it would be great to see this stop here at least. myself ibought at 465 so i am safe anyway. +1, set all at 518 sat to regain ppl's faith is very important. I am sure most PPL won't dump to that wall |
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After all issues got fixed price will be up soon, the issues are able to be fixed, so what are you worry about , I don't understand why so many guys sell their coin under ICO price.
could u tell me any issues have now? |
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No more buy support? Need buy support again  |
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So have any of you guys noticed that the price has gone up to 500 again?
600-700 coming yes, this is the last time we see 3-400 sat price, in the future we won't see that low price, SYS will be huge |
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