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3781  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 11, 2014, 12:06:50 AM
The bubble is officially popped. this is capitulation.
3782  Economy / Speculation / Re: Whodafuq is dumping BTC?? on: April 10, 2014, 09:08:22 PM
it's probably some billionaire's secretary hitting the wrong button.
3783  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 09:00:42 PM
389 is exactly 1/3 of the ath.
3784  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 03:43:53 PM
I can ignore the loudmouth newbies, but where are the technical analysts?
3785  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2014, 03:22:12 PM
Someone is selling thousands at a time. This isn't individuals panicking. This is a planned dump from someone that doesn't care about maximizing their gains. It's probably from gox, mybitcoins, hackers, or early adopters panicking.
3786  Economy / Speculation / Re: Too all those saying "China FUD" on: April 10, 2014, 12:25:30 PM
I don't need to say anything.  Bitcoinwisdom will show you all you need to know about this "FUD".

Hope you all got out in time.


Advice from someone with 4 months of experience. lol
3787  Economy / Speculation / Re: A question to anyone who still doubts Bitcoin: on: April 10, 2014, 01:58:41 AM

Pick which technologies Bitcoin most closely resembles.
3788  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we talk about removing SSL from the payment protocol and put PGP? on: April 09, 2014, 01:01:33 PM
Couldn't we just have a small no fee unconfirmed payment required for security?
3789  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 09, 2014, 12:37:10 PM
this is the weakest attempt at getting pigs to panic lol.
Someone was bored.
3790  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ‘watered-down bitcoin’ for institutional investors on: April 09, 2014, 12:35:05 PM
It's a stupid idea that only muppet clients would invest in. The better alternative to a 50-50 mix is to invest half the money and keep the other half in cash.
Some early adopters developed a portfolio consisting of bitcoins, hookers, and blow.
3791  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Making the world a safer place with bitcoin on: April 08, 2014, 06:57:52 PM
How about slot machines with bitcoins at local casinos.. You cant get robbed when you leave if you have no cash on hand


Thats an interesting concept but we have the surveillance cameras and alot of security so I dont thin anyone can get robbed unless they are getting followed

Plus you know casinos will want several confirmations of transactions. The type of safety I would like to see in casinos is 'Provably Fair' games where a hash is given before play and checked afterward by an app.
3792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin on: April 08, 2014, 06:53:13 PM

3.  Bitcoin was the first generation cryptocurrency using the blockchain.  There are lots of other first generation coins.  The 1.0 and 2.0 doesn't refer to version release numbers, it refers to generations of technology.  Since Ripple was not a clone of Bitcoin but was redesigned from the ground up to be a completely different platform (yes, it is a platform) that is more robust, handles more processes, and is quicker and easier, it represents a generational shift in between the first generation platforms.  So, yes it is a second generation platform but instead of writing "second generational platform", it is much easier to say "2.0".  There are many others including CounterParty, MasterCoin, Bitshares, and NXT.  Ethereum will at least be a 2.0 and maybe even a 3.0 depending on how a person looks at it.  By the way, "3.0" symbolizes for "third generation platform". 
The way I see it, blockchain transactions as direct currencies are Bitcoin. Derivative backed currencies and instruments that only use minimal blockchain transactions for security are B2. Complex large scale multisig and nLockTime investments will be B3 because they will define entirely new business models. Perhaps Ethereum or something similar will fill that role, but more likely it will be a Microsoft or Oracle product.
3793  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Texas Gets it Right! on: April 08, 2014, 06:41:46 PM
There is a large contingent of Bitcoin developers and enthusiasts in the Texas capital of Austin. Kudos to the Bitcoin community and their communication skills. With patients and perseverance, this paradigm shift will go down as smoothly as a bottle of Patron on an El Paso sunset.
3794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin on: April 08, 2014, 12:55:06 AM
Well, Satoshi for one. Cryptocurrency developers are growing geometrically. Who knows who will be the next coding superstar? Privacy is an important subject to many of them.
Satoshi is gone for over 3 years now
OMG! How did he die? Or maybe you mean they are using their own names now and are working atomically on Bitcoin and its derivatives. Parallel projects don't hurt Bitcoin. Their failures make Bitcoin look stronger. Many of their new ideas can still be incorporated into Bitcoin.
3795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin on: April 08, 2014, 12:48:23 AM
Why did Ripple Labs choose to create XRP rather than use Bitcoin to secure their transactions?
Some reasons I can think of (I do not work for or am affiliated with Ripple Labs by the way, so these are just what I think their reasons are):

BTC are very slow (orders of magnitude slower) to confirm compared to Ripple's ledgers.

Ripple has a very low transaction rate at the moment and very few gateways and validators compared to Bitcoin. It's too soon to tell which would be faster on equal footing. Normal purchases are reasonably assured with zero confirmations.

Jed said from the beginning he doesn't like the idea of burning electricity to secure the network.
Electrophobia?

Ripple validators would need to track the ledger _and_ the Bitcoin block chain.

That depends on what you are using Bitcoin for. Coordinating an attack on the ledger and on Stratum would be very difficult, so you wouldn't need a blockchain to scrub.

Bitcoin scales poorly, if transactions on Ripple were done on Bitcoin, transaction volume would go through the roof (reminds me that I have to collect stats about transaction volume), already now Ripple likely has a higher transaction volume than Bitcoin, which is currently hard capped at less than 10 TX/s (imagine being able to only do 10 trades globally per second!)

That's not stopping Colored Coin, Mastercoin, and Counterparty from developing layers over Bitcoin. Bitcoin is growing organically. A baby cheetah does not run 60 mph. Bitcoin is capable of outprocessing every other centralized payment system when the block size limit is increased.

Bitcoin transactions are crazy expensive (https://gist.github.com/gavinandresen/5044482 estimates one typical transaction to cost about 0.8 mBTC).

Bitcoin doesn't need to replace every face to face transaction, but even if it did, compared to other payment systems, it is cheap. Typical transaction fees tend to be 0.1 to 0.3 mBTC. It's possible for such an exception as 0.8 mBTC, but wallet management with coin control will mitigate these costs when smarter wallets are created.


Marketing reasons probably too, also even though it is improving, BTC don't have the best rep out there.

They said the same thing about the internet in the mid '90s. There is no such thing as bad publicity.

It would be kinda hard to get banks to buy BTC first to transact something on Ripple, a fact that Mastercoin, Counterparty et.al. are going to find out soon enough.

Credit unions take care of their community and care about their members. They will adapt to what best servos their membership. But I presume you mean central banks and investment banks. Their services will no longer be required. Crowd funding is the future. There are plenty of jobs for bank employees in the food service industry.

Of course also the possibility to make/earn money from the system while being able to go fully open source with it asap (they do not earn money by providing the infrastructure or software, they earn money by people using their product and they hope for the network effect to kick in so there is no fork emerging that is more popular than their network)
Motivating development is a double edge sword. Financial incentives create observational bias due to the strong emotional nature of those invested. That's why I advocate a focus on Bitcoin in order to share resources and gain from the greater adoption rather than early adoption speculation. Bitcoin has been growing exponentially and with each year it gains more momentum.

They messed up a few things too by the way, calling XRP "ripples" is what bugs me most. Instead of calling the smallest unit (1 µXRP) "drop", they should have jsut called the whole currency "droplets", "waves" or something else. Especially their first target market (this forum) did simply treat it as another altcoin and by having the same name, it messed up a lot imho. (It's like a large bitcoin exchange calling itself "Bitcoin" - just see the confusion with The Block Chain and blockchain.info already)

Naming conventions tend to be organic. In my opinion, the most significant quantity of bitcoins is the minimal dust unit of 5300 Satoshis (plus transaction fee) which should be the base unit for now. They will probably be the base units of Colored Coins.
3796  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple vs Bitcoin on: April 07, 2014, 10:32:51 PM
How will Ripple Labs comply with government sanctions?
Similar to "sanctioning" the Bitcoin foundation there is not a lot to "sanction" at Ripple Labs to begin with... the network can and will go on, no matter what RL does.

I guess they would just follow whatever sanction hits them, though I don't see it having any effect on Ripple itself.
So if Ripple Labs is shut down, the network will go on just fine and all transactions will be accounted for in the ledger?

How will Ripple Labs comply with government sanctions?

How do any core bitcoin developers left in the US intend to comply with government sanctions?
It doesn't matter where Bitcoin core developers are if they stay anonymous.

Yeah but the bitcoin core developers do not seem to be mostly anonymous.
Well, Satoshi for one. Cryptocurrency developers are growing geometrically. Who knows who will be the next coding superstar? Privacy is an important subject to many of them.
3797  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do people think exchanges set the prices? on: April 07, 2014, 08:50:00 PM
These exchanges still operate on the model set forth by Mt Gox and will never be trusted by the masses. Bitcoin needs regulated markets and licensed brokers to be taken seriously.
3798  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: I am going to build a true random number generator ... on: April 07, 2014, 08:32:00 PM
My guess is it's a Geiger counter (I swear I did not check Google or anything else)...

Onkel Paul
That's what I would guess, or a tesla coil.
3799  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Making the world a safer place with bitcoin on: April 07, 2014, 08:23:48 PM

What don't you understand about m of n or 2fa transactions? All I'm saying is that the child will not have complete control of the funds so you cannot simply steal it.

What are you not understanding about the impracticality of such a system. A mugger isn't going to believe it anyway "transfer me your wallet" "I can't" *stab stab stab*
Fine, then face the consequences. But you still won't get the money.
3800  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Making the world a safer place with bitcoin on: April 07, 2014, 08:08:40 PM

That will require my dad to send his signature which he will do after he kicks your dad's ass.

And your dad is going to come to your school every day at lunch to sign for lunch when you pay?
What don't you understand about m of n or 2fa transactions? All I'm saying is that the child will not have complete control of the funds so you cannot simply steal it.
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