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3781  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲EarnBet.io - The First Player-Owned Casino 🎲Provably Fair 🎲BTC ₿ on: January 02, 2020, 11:44:53 PM
EarnShit is an investment scam because they false and misleading claim to have made 5 million USD profit within the first year, but this is totally impossible with 50% more rake like competitors and shitty games selection and shitty marketing! Roll Eyes

The fact that they had an 85% fall from their ATH is irrelevant. 

The fact that you've been harping on that for months without being able to actually articulate what it is you are accusing them of suggests you are pretty clueless when in comes to the world of icos and alt-coins.   It is possible to have a curacao license, or have no license, and not be a scam. 
3782  Other / Meta / Re: wolwoo's merit source desire on: January 02, 2020, 11:26:53 PM
I desire that wolwoo become a source for many demerits as one of the premier misanthropes in all of bitcointalk.
3783  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Door To Door Forced Vaccinations Now Taking Place in Samoa on: January 02, 2020, 11:12:03 PM
TEC, how do you think they should give everyone who needs and is able to receive an MMR shot during a measles outbreak on a small island country?

Having everyone stay home and wait for the medicine to be delivered as quickly as possible is really the only option.
3784  Other / Meta / Re: JollyGood: an amazing journey becoming Hero member rank on 1st January 2020 on: January 02, 2020, 10:35:35 PM
I think scam busting on Bitcointalk can be incredibly fun, exciting, frustrating, addicting, educational, satisfying, annoying and tedious.  You do a great job.  You actually inspired me to start using that magic ignore button to minimize my wasting time with certain types. Hope you stick around for a long time.  Happy New Year.
3785  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲EarnBet.io - The First Player-Owned Casino 🎲Provably Fair 🎲BTC ₿ on: January 02, 2020, 09:25:53 PM
It also seems like you are reading the chart wrong, and also maybe your calendar.  You know it's Jan 2020 right?
Still on drugs?

It is not my calendar, it is the cryptorank.io calendar! Roll Eyes




You really think that ATH vs biggest drop all time is sign of it being a scam?

Have you tried looking at any other currency?  


Did you really post a fake SS?




Do you think ETH is a scam too?

3786  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: January 02, 2020, 09:16:51 PM
Yeah.  There's a connection.  So what

ROFLMAO!  So what, he says.  Would that be your (or CNN's) reaction if there was a "connection" between corrupt foreign energy companies and Don Jr.?

Your double standards are showing.

I'd say "so what".  

What's the big deal with it being an energy company by the way, is it just because that's what Hunter Biden did or am I missing something?

In fact there probably is a connection with some energy company somewhereTrump Jr is running the Trump Organization which has well over $100 million invested in like 20 different countries.  Ivanka getting those patents for her personal Business from Chinese government while she's a part of the administration is definitely not a good look, but unless there's reason to believe she's leveraging federal resources or something...so what?

I feel the same way about Bidens son.  Ukraine offered him a job, he took it.  So what?

3787  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲EarnBet.io - The First Player-Owned Casino 🎲Provably Fair 🎲BTC ₿ on: January 02, 2020, 08:44:01 PM
This is open-source?
Yes, the EarnShit investment scam is open-source!

Source: https://cryptorank.io/currencies/earnbet/price-chart

The BET fantasy token (you can not use to bet) lost 85% from ATH!

$ 0.149 (23 Sep 2019)
Ƀ 0.0000173 (07 Oct 2019)
Ξ 0.000791 (07 Oct 2019)
From ATH: -85%



Open source doesn't refer to a chart of their history.  It means they made their source code public:  https://gitlab.com/EOSBetCasino/eosbetdice_public

It also seems like you are reading the chart wrong, and also maybe your calendar.  You know it's Jan 2020 right?
3788  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] WILL TRUMP BE ELECTED TO A SECOND TERM? on: January 02, 2020, 08:24:51 PM
Trump vs Past 6 Presidents, net approval for first 1,078 days:



Carter and George H lost, the rest won a second term.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Check out that crazy bump Bush got after 911.

3789  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Door To Door Forced Vaccinations Now Taking Place in Samoa on: January 02, 2020, 06:36:25 PM
Franky is right.  

Compulsory just means they might get fined or banned from public places (especially children in school) if they don't get vaccinated.  ( I don't know know how exactly they are handling it in Samoa, but they obviously aren't going door to door holding down anyone who tries to refuse, I think most likely they are just saying 'NEW RULE, EVERYBODY HAS TO GET VACCINATED, THERE'S A MEASELS OUTBREAK!).  In most US states, by law if you want to send your child to public school you gotta prove they've had all the required vaccinations.  That's compulsory vaccination.  (there are medical exemptions obviously)

Google 'compulsory vaccinations' instead of just 'compulsory'

What makes the article interesting isn't that that Samoa is making the measles vaccine compulsory during a major measles outbreak, that's just common sense and happens all over the world.  It's the fact that they are taking action against people spreading anti vax propaganda and discouraging people from getting vaccinated.

Yes, you didn't bother reading the subject of the topic at all, but people that confirm your bias are right of course. You admittedly know nothing of the subject matter, but of course you are right. You didn't even bother reading the thread where I explained they are GOING DOOR TO DOOR GIVING FORCED VACCINATIONS. That is what compulsory means in this context. If the Nazis were alive today there would be a line of them around the block for the first class on your knees servicing you would be giving them. You are a repulsive human being.

Do you usually consider something to be true because it's in the topic of a thread?  I don't.

So I read the entire article you linked.  (really, the whole thing)

Just now googled "Door To Door Forced Vaccinations Now Taking Place in Samoa"

First result: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/05/samoa-measles-outbreak-families-fly-red-flags-to-request-vaccinations

Samoa’s main streets were eerily quiet on Thursday as the government stepped up efforts to curb a measles epidemic that has killed 62 people.

The government told most public and private workers to stay home for two days and shut down roads to nonessential vehicles as teams began going door-to-door to administer vaccines.

Families in the Pacific island nation were asked to hang red flags from their houses if they needed to be vaccinated.



Second result: This thread.  Topic composed by you.



Do you have any source, other than the topic of this thread that you wrote, that Door To Door Forced Vaccinations Now Taking Place in Samoa?  

If not, will you please edit the topic to "Door To Door Vaccinations Now Taking Place in Samoa for Families Who Request Them" so nobody else is misled.
3790  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Door To Door Forced Vaccinations Now Taking Place in Samoa on: January 02, 2020, 06:00:42 PM

Now, it seems, that people are getting a different kind of measles from the MMR vaccine. And it seems to be far more contagious than natural measles. And it seems to be spreading death far more than natural measles.


It may seem that way, but there has only been one reported measles related death in the United States in the past 5 years.  About 70 million MMR vaccines were given during that time.
 https://www.cdc.gov/measles/downloads/measlesdataandstatsslideset.pdf
3791  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: January 02, 2020, 05:38:31 PM
Mid October: Bunch of rumors circulate that Pelosi, Kerry and Romney all had sons working for Ukrainian Energy Companies, just like Biden, by the pizza-gate qanon folks.  One of their smoking guns was a video of one of the sons talking about doing a soccer camp in Ukraine.

Late December: Trump retweets this and ads "Wow Crazy Nancy, what’s going on? This is big stuff!"

Within 24 hours Zerohedge has "Trump Exposes Pelosi And Son's Ties To Ukraine-Linked Energy Group" as a headline for a 5 sentence article that leads by quoting Trump saying Pelosi hates anyone who votes for Republicans.

I'm putting more effort into this post, and the same goes for TEC and duped in the two posts above than Duden put into that ZH 'article'.  It was obviously successful though.

I have to say I was impressed they decided to put the "there is no allegations of wrongdoing in the Pelosi case" disclaimer in the article, even though it's pretty well hidden.

http://nrglab.asia/aboutus.html

"The company’s additional projects include a strategic partnership and investment from Viscoil Holdings to recycle waste materials into eco-friendly diesel fuel. NRGLab has obtained an exclusive license for the Viscoil Technology for the South East Asian region for all raw materials."

NRGLab & Viscoil link confirmed.


NRGLab promotional video discussing their product in relation to petroleum distillation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRD7jXgmkcs

https://archive.is/Habo8

NRGLab involved in gas projects in Ukraine confirmed.




Semi-related bonus sources:

https://freebeacon.com/politics/company-cofounded-by-paul-pelosi-jr-charged-with-securities-fraud/
https://2009-2017.state.gov/j/drl/p/previouscalls/264569.htm
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-indictment-reveals-hunter-biden-group-made-165-million-mp
https://davidharrisjr.com/patrick/fbi-hunts-for-information-on-pelosis-son-as-familys-criminal-business-dealing-allegations-come-under-fire/

Yeah.  There's a connection.  So what?

To sum it up: Paul Pelosi served on the board of Viscoil. At one point, a Ukrainian singer is alleged to have promoted the company. But Pelosi was off the board before that happened. That’s the connection people have identified.

How is this big stuff though?  Where is the corruption? And how did Trump uncover it last week?

This does not justify Trump pressuring Ukraine to investigate a political rival by withholding military aid that had already been approved by congress and the DOD.
3792  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Door To Door Forced Vaccinations Now Taking Place in Samoa on: January 02, 2020, 05:21:10 PM

"people can individually refuse vaccinations. what is being said is that organisations that try to stop other people are told to stop."

Learn to read "The specific order, therefore, to vaccinate is compulsory and is to be complied with..."

Do you know what the word "compulsory" means? It means no refusal allowed.

Franky is right.  

Compulsory just means they might get fined or banned from public places (especially children in school) if they don't get vaccinated.  ( I don't know know how exactly they are handling it in Samoa, but they obviously aren't going door to door holding down anyone who tries to refuse, I think most likely they are just saying 'NEW RULE, EVERYBODY HAS TO GET VACCINATED, THERE'S A MEASELS OUTBREAK!).  In most US states, by law if you want to send your child to public school you gotta prove they've had all the required vaccinations.  That's compulsory vaccination.  (there are medical exemptions obviously)

Google 'compulsory vaccinations' instead of just 'compulsory'

What makes the article interesting isn't that that Samoa is making the measles vaccine compulsory during a major measles outbreak, that's just common sense and happens all over the world.  It's the fact that they are taking action against people spreading anti vax propaganda and discouraging people from getting vaccinated.

Except that the vaccine info expounded by the anti-vaxxers is right... at least regarding the efficacy of vaccines.

It seems that Samoa had a few cases of measles as virtually all countries do. Then the vaccines started for an epidemic that was far from an epidemic in proportions. Then the measles got worse than they had ever been.

How "worse" did the measles get? People around the world get measles and sit in bed for a week or two. Then they get up and go about life, free from measles. A few die. But people die from all kinds of things all over the place, and nobody will ever stop it from happening. But...

When you add the vaccines like in Samoa, the deaths rapidly mount, and cases of measles abound. In addition, as Robert Kennedy, Jr., found, there are no conclusive safety studies for any vaccines.

You might say for Samoa, think of how bad the epidemic of measles would have been if there weren't any vaccines. But there is no evidence from any country of measles causing an epidemic like this. We can only conclude that it is the vaccine causing the measles.

Cool

The problem is how contagious it is.

If you are in the same room as someone with Measles for a few minutes, you're probably going to get the measles.  And it takes 4 days for the first symptoms to appear while you're still contagious.  If you are healthy and not too old or too young it won't kill you.  But if you come into contact with someone really old or young or with other medical issues during that four day period, things will be a lot more serious for them.  It just spreads like crazy.

That's just what the doctors say though. 

3793  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US President Donald Trump has threatened Iran on: January 02, 2020, 05:05:35 PM
Iran knows that it doesn't have negotiating chips like North Korea, they don't have their enriched Uranium anymore -- which was given up after the Iran deal. The only way they think they can get anything is by annoying the US here and there and hoping that at one point they give in and stop the sanctions.

They're literally using the playbook of North Korea, without nuclear weapons.

Not an expert, but I've been under the impression things are pretty much opposite of what you say.  I think Iran would be a much bigger issue than NK.

Iran is in the middle east, and they are military allies with Russia, Iraq, and Syria.  They have a decent modern Airforce and Navy.  We already have a ton of troops exposed in the area dealing with other issues.  Going to war with them would likely mean years long war with a possibility of serious escalations with Russia and the best case scenario is it ends up the same way Iraq did.

We already have North Korea Surrounded and I don't think China or Russia would offer them much assistance.  (I could be wrong, and it would also depend how exactly things escalated)  If they are lucky enough to get a nuke up in the air (it would take some luck considering they are pretty limited on where they can launch them from, they'd probably be hit with a NATO Nuke from a Sub or Plane before their nuke even landed.  It wouldn't really be a war, just a bunch of innocent people quickly dying.

I could be totally wrong about a lot of that.  Just recalling some wikipedia rabbit holes I've been down.
3794  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Hearings [serious discussion] on: January 02, 2020, 03:57:18 PM
....

And on her official House.gov site she called for Trump to be censured: https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/rep-tulsi-gabbard-calls-house-censure-president-putting-personal-political-gain

She's basically saying "He obviously abused his power as president to gain an advantage in upcoming election, but it 'breaks her heart we are so divided' so lets just censure him instead".   <==that's me paraphrasing.  

Her arguments just don't make sense to me though.  ...

They make perfect sense to me. The House voting to censure would be a completed action with some political impact. (Based on lies by lying liars but that's beside the point.)

The House as-is voting to impeach makes them look totally like fools plus incompetent.

So why not just vote no? 
3795  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Door To Door Forced Vaccinations Now Taking Place in Samoa on: January 02, 2020, 03:45:03 PM

"people can individually refuse vaccinations. what is being said is that organisations that try to stop other people are told to stop."

Learn to read "The specific order, therefore, to vaccinate is compulsory and is to be complied with..."

Do you know what the word "compulsory" means? It means no refusal allowed.

Franky is right.  

Compulsory just means they might get fined or banned from public places (especially children in school) if they don't get vaccinated.  ( I don't know know how exactly they are handling it in Samoa, but they obviously aren't going door to door holding down anyone who tries to refuse, I think most likely they are just saying 'NEW RULE, EVERYBODY HAS TO GET VACCINATED, THERE'S A MEASELS OUTBREAK!).  In most US states, by law if you want to send your child to public school you gotta prove they've had all the required vaccinations.  That's compulsory vaccination.  (there are medical exemptions obviously)

Google 'compulsory vaccinations' instead of just 'compulsory'

What makes the article interesting isn't that that Samoa is making the measles vaccine compulsory during a major measles outbreak, that's just common sense and happens all over the world.  It's the fact that they are taking action against people spreading anti vax propaganda and discouraging people from getting vaccinated.
3796  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Hearings [serious discussion] on: January 02, 2020, 01:08:06 PM
Tulsi Gabbard gave the weird answer of "Present" for both articles.
What do you find weird about it? It's common in controversial votes for some to vote "present" as opposed to committing to either side when, for example, you agree with part of it and not others and you just can't bring yourself to vote in favor. Of course some also use it as a way to weasel out of a vote.

Well, yesterday it wasn't that common, as she was the only one who did it. I think its probably a marketing gimmick for her campaign. At best, she'll make a good VP, I think. For the longest time I've been saying Bernie/Tulsi would be a winning combination. Biden will probably pick Warren.

She posted a statement on why she voted present on her campaign site:  https://www.tulsi2020.com/press/2019-12-19-tulsi-gabbard-releases-statement-impeachment-president-trump

And on her official House.gov site she called for Trump to be censured: https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/rep-tulsi-gabbard-calls-house-censure-president-putting-personal-political-gain

She's basically saying "He obviously abused his power as president to gain an advantage in upcoming election, but it 'breaks her heart we are so divided' so lets just censure him instead".   <==that's me paraphrasing.  

Her arguments just don't make sense to me though.  It seems pretty clear she's doing it for attention/political reasons.  Voting present != Being brave, and putting Country before Party.  So she must still be trying really hard to be the next president, and she pretty much torched any shot at the Dem nomination....which means third party it is, which will help the Republicans BIG TIME come November.



Unrelated: Basically ignored anything politics for past couple weeks on vacation and just read books and basically avoided any political discussion with family and friends.  Detoxing from constant news and reading a couple books without keeping up with the rest of the world is quite nice.  Especially if you're forced to consume it at work every day.
3797  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US President Donald Trump has threatened Iran on: January 02, 2020, 10:32:22 AM
Iran will be held fully responsible for lives lost or damage incurred at any of our facilities. They will pay a very BIG PRICE. This is not a Warning, it is a Threat.

Note Source From : https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1212121026072592384

Not the response we were hoping for:

Quote
As Americans waited to see how the U.S. would respond to an Iranian-backed Iraqi militia’s embassy attack, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei taunted President Trump on Twitter Wednesday — taking Trump on at his own game.

“That guy (President Trump) has tweeted that we see Iran responsible for the events in Baghdad & we will respond to Iran. 1st: You can’t do anything. 2nd: If you were logical — which you’re not — you’d see that your crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan… have made nations hate you, If the Islamic Republic decides to challenge & fight, it will do so unequivocally. We’re not after wars, but we strongly defend the Iranian nation’s interests, dignity, & glory. If anyone threatens that, we will unhesitatingly confront & strike them." Khamenei’s official English-language Twitter account posted.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/01/01/iran-supreme-leader-stokes-twitter-war-with-donald-trump/

Kim Jong Un also joined in taunting the United States a few days ago:

Quote
"we will never allow the impudent U.S. to abuse the DPRK-U.S. dialogue for meeting its sordid aim but will shift to a shocking actual action to make it pay for the pains sustained by our people so far and for the development so far restrained,”

I really hope the decisions Trump makes are based on the advice from top foreign policy experts and diplomats from the international community, or that at least someone convinces him that starting a war with Iran could hurt him politically.  Or at the very least not ignore the Joint Chiefs...

 looks like Trump managed to squeeze in 10 rounds of golf in the past 12 days: https://factba.se/topic/calendar, so the hands off approach is at least a possibility.  Hope it doesn't rain.
3798  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vid of Biden admit bribe of Ukrainian Pres. to fire prosecutor investigating son on: January 02, 2020, 05:17:50 AM
"Trump Exposes Pelosi And Son's Ties To Ukraine-Linked Energy Group"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-exposes-pelosi-and-sons-ties-ukraine-linked-energy-group

This was debunked in October. (Mitt Romney and John Kerry were also accused of having sons working for Ukrainian energy companies around the same time, also debunked)
Pretty lame how zerohedge is making it seem like this is some sort of breaking news. It's just Trump giving new life to old fake news.

I realize snopes and politifact are both left leaning, but their explanations make sense when you watch the videos that started the whole thing and are generally very well sourced.

ZH has some good content, but that article you posted is trash.  Their conclusion is a cartoon ffs.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pelosi-jr-ukraine/
https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2019/oct/10/facebook-posts/pelosi-romney-and-kerry-dont-have-sons-working-com/

Well shit, just stamp "DEBUNKED" on it, and the debate is over right? Man that sure was easy. I noticed you didn't actually bother arguing any of the implications detailed in the link, you just denied it. Lets look at your well known partisan hack "fact checkers".

Nopes: "Because Pelosi Jr. did not work for NRGlab during the time in which the company is alleged to have done business in Ukraine, and because the product allegedly produced by NRGlab in Ukraine does not exist, we rank the claim that “Nancy Pelosi’s son is an executive at a gas company that did business in Ukraine” as “False.”"

You will notice the careful wording here where they claim he didn't work for them specifically during the time they were alleged to have done business in Ukraine as if this some how is exclusive of him being involved before or after. They also make the ridiculous claim that because they deem it unlikely such a device ever existed, he couldn't have possibly been involved as if he couldn't have been involved in a vaporware project.

Politifukt: "Pelosi’s son, Paul, briefly served on the board of an American energy company (Viscoil) before it dissolved in 2010, but there’s no evidence the company had dealings with Ukraine while he held that seat. "

Again, you see the weasel wording crafted in such a way as to claim that because he was not on the board at a specific time he was some how excluded form being involved. This is why Snopes and sites like it are trash, because they just do some semantic gymnastics and claim "DEBUNKED!" giving its readers all the confirmation bias they went there for. If Trump claimed he had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for lunch, they would claim it is false because what he really ate was jam, therefore "DEBUNKED!"

Mid October: Bunch of rumors circulate that Pelosi, Kerry and Romney all had sons working for Ukrainian Energy Companies, just like Biden, by the pizza-gate qanon folks.  One of their smoking guns was a video of one of the sons talking about doing a soccer camp in Ukraine.

Late December: Trump retweets this and ads "Wow Crazy Nancy, what’s going on? This is big stuff!"

Within 24 hours Zerohedge has "Trump Exposes Pelosi And Son's Ties To Ukraine-Linked Energy Group" as a headline for a 5 sentence article that leads by quoting Trump saying Pelosi hates anyone who votes for Republicans.

I'm putting more effort into this post, and the same goes for TEC and duped in the two posts above than Duden put into that ZH 'article'.  It was obviously successful though.

I have to say I was impressed they decided to put the "there is no allegations of wrongdoing in the Pelosi case" disclaimer in the article, even though it's pretty well hidden.
3799  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: January 01, 2020, 08:09:33 PM
....
Personally, I think being 'an impeachment happy country' is better than not.  Adding "I agree to be transparent, reasonable and not bitch and moan when I am inevitably investigated" to the Presidential Oath wouldn't be a bad idea imo.

It sucks how divided and pissed everyone is, but the less we investigate and scrutinize every decision the President makes, especially when it comes to anything involving elections, the bigger the risk of becoming a ' Wink democracy Wink'.

Hell of an attitude, coming from an obivious Obamanoid and sole loser of 2016.

Don't you really mean "investigate the enemy" and "Never investigate our own tribe"?

If not, do you recognize that "Never investigate our own tribe" is one of the primary features of your tribe?

I was really just trying to discuss the way our country is set up with checks and balances.  The system is set up to give the President more power than any other American, but also prevent him from becoming a King. Allowing a president to abuse the power of his office to gain more power is what Ben Franklin was talking about with the 'we have a Republic, if we can keep it' comment.  

I don't look at each election as half the country winning and half the country losing.  It's just a decision the country made collectively.  (I didn't vote for Trump, but honestly I was kind of excited he did and thought he could end up being a great president after his first speech after he won) . The more rational and informed everyone is, the better a decision we can make.  Trash talking and complete loyalty makes for an exciting Hockey game.  But this isn't a Hockey game, how about we just listen to each other as Americans (and Humans) with different opinions and ideas that maybe you hadn't considered instead of just talking shit.
3800  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: January 01, 2020, 12:14:30 PM
I'm definitely open minded and can have my mind changed. I've seen the impeachment document -- Again, the point I was making was not about impeachment, but about precedent. to address what you mentioned about high crimes, Trump was not charged with a specific sort of crime. Looking at Bill Clinton, he was charged with perjury, a specific crime. Abuse of power nor obstruction of Congress are not specific crimes, they're broad charges.

The precedent of the last 25+ years is that when party A has the White House and party B controls the House of Representatives, party B to looks for any possible reason to impeach the president.

There were plenty of attempts to impeach Obama (passing Obamacare, Benghazi, Drone attacks, he wasn't actually an American, transgender bathroom laws, and others).  I think there were several points where a majority of the House Republicans were openly prepared to vote to impeach - but not enough to get a majority of the entire House.  

For the most part though, Obama just ignored the attacks, which seems to have worked, and Trump is taking the opposite approach by playing the victim card, which also seems to be working.

Before Obama, GW had to deal with impeachment resolutions from the Dems, and Clinton got impeached by the Republicans.


Efforts to Impeach GW
Efforts to Impeach Obama


Personally, I think being 'an impeachment happy country' is better than not.  Adding "I agree to be transparent, reasonable and not bitch and moan when I am inevitably investigated" to the Presidential Oath wouldn't be a bad idea imo.

It sucks how divided and pissed everyone is, but the less we investigate and scrutinize every decision the President makes, especially when it comes to anything involving elections, the bigger the risk of becoming a ' Wink democracy Wink'.









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